Culture Cup 2.0 round 5

Round 4 of the Culture Cup 2.0 comes to an end and thank the heavens for that.  As is standard for 2.0, there were some beauties and some utter sh*te picked in this round.  The big winner was The Boss who (after he had put down his Niall Quinn autobiography and chosen his film) picked up maximum points for One Flew Over The Cuckoos Nest.  It’s a quality film so no complaints from me.  Trebs scooped up a healthy 8 points for Silence Of The Lambs which is also a tremendous film so again, no complaints here.  Michaels got a lovely present of 8 points for his pick of Forrest Gump.  That’s right folks, Forrest f*cking Gump.  C&R also claimed 8 points with The Godfather.  GrumpyG*lfer picked up 6 points for To Kill A Mockingbird which I also voted for.  Cracking film.  Weeman also picked up 6 points for Raging Bull.  So Forrest f*cking Gump is better than Raging Bull and To Kill A Mockingbird.  Forrest f*cking Gump.  

Lots of posters managed to score a big fat headed zero, including Jeff for On The Waterfront and his arch rival Nicola Sturgeon superfly who, although he did get one vote, won’t be picking up any points as he failed to understand a very simple question and his pick of Lawrence Of Arabia fell outside the criteria.  Jules will be disappointed to pick up some points for Annie Hall, but Galted will be devastated that no votes appeared for Amadeus.  He saw Rupert Grint once.  In a play.  L*l.  He also saw Laura Dern in a film.  Double l*l out loud.  Galted is a really funny guy.  Dresses like a utter spazz but doesn’t let that hold him back in life.  A solid 4 points for Hero keeps our resident champ at the top of the league but he can feel the hot breath of a few men down his neck now.  He’ll enjoy that, no doubt.  The only points Stella has managed to accrue have come from a book I picked for him.  Perhaps the biggest surprise was Union Cane who picked up zero votes for his first choice of The Iron Lady.

Here is the updated league table:

1) Hero 30 pts
2) Paul 24 pts
3) Trebs 24 pts
4) C&R 20 pts
5) The Boss 19 pts
6) Harrier 16 pts
7) Ziggler 16 pts
8) Michaels 16 pts (will be deducted 2 points at the end of the tournament for being a pr*ck)
9) Fat head Adam 15 pts
10) GrumpyG*lfer 14 pts
11) Azzy 11 pts
12) Nakatomi 11 pts
13) weeman 11 pts
14) SerialDAVE 9 pts
15) Jeff 8 pts
16) Shah Abu-bakr 7 pts
17) Beadle 6 pts
18) Jules 5 pts
19) superfly 4 pts
20) Union Cane 3 pts
21) Dagless 3 pts
22) Stella 2 pts
23) Ray Mears big fat zero pts

Round 5 is back to music so please see the poll for THE BEST EVER DEBUT ALBUM.  

Remember, IT’S OPEN FOR ALL OF 606v2 TO VOTE.

Thanks.

A few could do well here - I will predict the following will be top 5 (in no order):

Oasis, Stone Roses, GnR, Led Zep and Sex Pistols

Forrest Gump is a good film. Top 10. I always cry when he meets his nipper for the first time.

Early lead for Jeff Buckley. Lovely stuff. I voted for that as it was one of my alternatives. I was listening to "Last Goodbye" earlier today and it really is a brilliant song.

seanmichaels wrote:Forrest Gump is a good film. Top 10. I always cry when he meets his nipper for the first time.

you cry because you're a bigger mong than Forrest!

I used to be good at table tennis.....

superflyweight wrote:Early lead for Jeff Buckley.  Lovely stuff.  I voted for that as it was one of my alternatives.  I was listening to "Last Goodbye" earlier today and it really is a brilliant song.  

A great album, one I considered myself, would happily lose to that.

Who the hell voted for Force & Styles?

Union? Is that you?

Adam had to have picked Appetite for Destruction.

Mind the windows Tino. wrote:Who the hell voted for Force & Styles?

Union?  Is that you?

I did, to wind you and Jeff up. I will cancel and vote sensibly.

Appetite for Destruction is so over rated as an album, the Americans only liked it because it marked an end to Glam Metal, there is nothing special about it in the slightest.

The Slim Shady LP isn't Eminem's debut album, it was his mainstream breakthrough.

A better list than I was expecting, can only assume Dave's pick is Nola, top choice, doesn't get much better than Anselmo on vocals with Pep on guitar, Stone the Crow is the highlight.

superflyweight wrote:Early lead for Jeff Buckley.  Lovely stuff.  I voted for that as it was one of my alternatives.  I was listening to "Last Goodbye" earlier today and it really is a brilliant song.  

Hallelujah some appreciation for fine music on here, 18 years to the day that his body was found, damn you Wolf River.

Whoever picked Sam Smith needs curbstomping.

Hammersmith harrier wrote:

The Slim Shady LP isn't Eminem's debut album, it was his mainstream breakthrough.

Controversial one..... http://www.nme.com/list/50-greatest-debut-albums/196597/page/5

Hammersmith harrier wrote:

The Slim Shady LP isn't Eminem's debut album, it was his mainstream breakthrough.

So it is.

Right, the person (you know who you are) who picked it won't be getting any points. Do your own research, folks.

I warned you all.

Hero wrote:Whoever picked Sam Smith needs curbstomping.

Amen to that. voted for the Roses. Always was and remains my favourite album. Was also my first choice until I chose to embrace my inner bell end.

Voted Definitely Maybe. Think it was more important musically than The Stone Roses and probably a little better.

Hammersmith harrier wrote:
can only assume Dave's pick is Nola, top choice, doesn't get much better than Anselmo on vocals with Pep on guitar, Stone the Crow is the highlight.

SerialDAVE gave me a delightful rundown via PM of who made up DOWN and where they had come from previously.

I am not ashamed to say, I had only heard of PANTERA (even then, I couldn't tell you a single song). The rest of it just read like the titles of horror movies.

Mind the windows Tino. wrote:

Hammersmith harrier wrote:
can only assume Dave's pick is Nola, top choice, doesn't get much better than Anselmo on vocals with Pep on guitar, Stone the Crow is the highlight.

SerialDAVE gave me a delightful rundown via PM of who made up DOWN and where they had come from previously.  

I am not ashamed to say, I had only heard of PANTERA (even then, I couldn't tell you a single song).  The rest of it just read like the titles of horror movies.

You should listen to 'Good Friends And A Bottle Of Pills' by Pantera Tino, the most disturbing song there is, no doubt Dave took it a bit too literally.

seanmichaels wrote:Voted Definitely Maybe. Think it was more important musically than The Stone Roses and probably a little better.

You know there's always the belief that no opinion is a wrong one, well yours is.

I voted for the Sex Pistols. Whoever nominated them will be ever so pleased.

Eminem should be eligible.

The Slim Shady LP is the second studio album and first commercial release from the American rapper Eminem]

Hero wrote:

seanmichaels wrote:Voted Definitely Maybe. Think it was more important musically than The Stone Roses and probably a little better.

You know there's always the belief that no opinion is a wrong one, well yours is.

I've banned folk for less

Hero wrote:

seanmichaels wrote:Voted Definitely Maybe. Think it was more important musically than The Stone Roses and probably a little better.

You know there's always the belief that no opinion is a wrong one, well yours is.

You should slap yourself in the face for taking so long to realise this. Especially considering his comments on Dusty Springfield

seanmichaels wrote:Eminem should be eligible.

The Slim Shady LP is the second studio album and first commercial release from the American rapper Eminem]

Out.

Tino knows my feelings on Definitely Maybe, and if he followed my instructions then everyone who picked it knows my feelings too. Stone Roses album is a little overrated for me. Some gold on that, but some absolute crud too.

In no way should Eminem count, Infinite is his debut studio album.

On that list, The Strokes, KOL, Arctic Monkeys, Stone Roses and my guilty pleasure of that Linkin Park album would probably be my top 5.

Big respect to whoever picked NWA, though. I think I had BIG on my list of choices I sent to Tino.

Dolphin Ziggler wrote: Stone Roses album is a little overrated for me. Some gold on that, but some absolute crud too.

I'll f*cking hunt you down and f*cking kill you, you wrestling watching sweaty bell end. Watch your back.

Track by Track

"I Wanna Be Adored" Rock'n'Roll Star
"She Bangs the Drums" Shakermaker
"Waterfall" Live Forever
"Don't Stop" Up in the Sky
"Bye Bye Badman" Columbia
"Elizabeth My Dear" Supersonic
"Song for my sugar spun sister" Bring it on down
"Made of Stone" Cigarettes and Alcohol
"Shoot You Down" Digsy's Dinner
"This Is the One" Slide Away
"I Am the Resurrection" Married With Children

Close
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Have it 104 -106 in favour of oasis using boxing scoring. 10-8 to Oasis in round 6 making the difference.

Rowley wrote:

Dolphin Ziggler wrote: Stone Roses album is a little overrated for me. Some gold on that, but some absolute crud too.

I'll f*cking hunt you down and f*cking kill you, you wrestling watching sweaty bell end. Watch your back.

SerialDAVE he's taking over your USP

Dolphin Ziggler wrote:
In no way should Eminem count, Infinite is his debut studio album.

How come the NME have it as their no.1 debut album of all time?

Gotta side with Sean on this one, Definitely Maybe is the better album although Pills, Thrills and Bellyaches pisses all over both of them.

seanmichaels wrote:

Dolphin Ziggler wrote:
In no way should Eminem count, Infinite is his debut studio album.

How come the NME have it as their no.1 debut album of all time?

Music is their NME

Hammersmith harrier wrote:Gotta side with Sean on this one, Definitely Maybe is the better album although Pills, Thrills and Bellyaches pisses all over both of them.

"Groove Drenched Warfare" by THE INBREDS beats the living sh!t out of all of them but you don't see me getting involved do you?

Oh wait a minute....

I like to think it went with out say that Groove Drenched Warfare was clearly superior to them all Dave, is so self evident it hardly needs expressing.

seanmichaels wrote:

Dolphin Ziggler wrote:
In no way should Eminem count, Infinite is his debut studio album.

How come the NME have it as their no.1 debut album of all time?

You made the mistake of thinking anyone at the NME does an ounce of research before bunging together any old rubbish, it's a magazine that once voted The Smiths third best album as it's overall greatest. It's a crock of sh!t that should have closed down 20 years ago, no longer cool and the graveyard for journalists who failed elsewhere.

The snobbery on here is astounding.

Rowley wrote:I like to think it went with out say that Groove Drenched Warfare was clearly superior to them all Dave, is so self evident it hardly needs expressing.

Sometimes you need to really hammer that nail in, Rowley!

This is a difficult one - so many of the nominated choices are not the artist's best album. Bob Dylan, Bruce Springsteen, Guns N Roses, Kings of Leon, Led Zeppelin all went on to produce better albums. You could argue the same of a number of the other choices too.

I like the selection of NWA, but if I'd been going rap, I think Nas' Illmatic is the better debut, even if it didn't have the same cultural impact.

The way I always look at it between Definitely Maybe and The Stone Roses is the high spots are higher on The Roses and the low points are lower on Oasis. Definitely Maybe has nothing that comes anywhere near resurrection, made of stone or waterfall and the Roses has nothing as plain ordinary as Up in the Sky or Married with Children. The lyrics on Definitely Maybe are also nowhere near as good, as lets be honest most of Noel’s lyrics are borderline drivel at best.

Agreed. Disappointed my second pick, Lauryn Hill, didnt make it into the list

jbeadlesbigrighthand wrote:This is a difficult one - so many of the nominated choices are not the artist's best album. Bob Dylan, Bruce Springsteen, Guns N Roses, Kings of Leon, Led Zeppelin all went on to produce better albums. You could argue the same of a number of the other choices too.

That was my thoughts with the Who. They are one of my favourite bands ever, but in comparison to the likes of Who's Next or Quadrophenia My Generation is relatively poor.

The Who, Queen, Deep Purple, Led Zeppelin and the f*cking Rolling Stones.

F**K the lot of 'em!!!!!!!!!!

Kill em All and write an Obituary after Death.

sulking because i didnt get my first two choices that will do very well anyway so went for none of my nominations and one i forgot about which was the who

Did Sean choose Adele's album or the Taylor Swift one?

Eminem I think, it's been struck out so it doesnt matter

The Lexicon Of Love has no votes. It is as sh1t as Gone With The Wind.

Didn't pick my own, so went for Guns & Roses.

Never been a massive Roses fan. Their songs all sound the same to me.

JuliusHMarx wrote:The Lexicon Of Love has no votes.  It is as sh1t as Gone With The Wind.

Gone With The Wind is a great film! Not close to the best film featuring an Oscar winner, but when all the better choices have been taken, and when illegal entries are permitted, what can you do?