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Season 8 Homepage I

Post by SirJohnnyEnglish on Sat Jun 13, 2015 6:49 pm

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Welcome to Season 8 of the Aviva Premiership fantasy rugby game.  Below are the rules of the game which must be adhered to.  If there are any situations that arise in the course of the game which are not covered by the rules, a final decision will be made by the RFU (SJE) as to how the situation will be resolved.
 
 
Senior Squads wrote:
The maximum squad size is 40 senior players.  If a team has more than 40 players in their squad then they will be fined £1 million per player over the permitted amounts per day for the first seven days. If after 7 consecutive days a team still has more than the permitted number of players then the team will be fined £2 million per player per day, and fined 1 league point per player per day for the next seven days. If after this time a team still has more than the permitted number of players in their squad, the RFU (SJE) will remove players at its discretion to bring them back under the permitted numbers. There will be no right of appeal to players being removed.

Be aware that all tier one international matches which are played during the season will count in the game, and players selected in the match day 23's for those matches will not be eligible to play for their clubs on that weekend, therefore you must give due consideration to the make-up of your squad.
Academy Rules wrote:
Each team will be allowed to have an academy squad of 23 players.  Players who are in the academy must be born on or after 1st September 1993. 

Any player, who is at any Premiership club in real life, either in their senior, academy or AASE squads, can be bid for on the domestic bidding page. Players who are at your own club in real life and are coming through the academy system must be bid for if you want them in your own academy.
Transfers wrote:

  • Domestic (other AP Teams)
    Each team has a budget to use in the purchase of players. Domestic transfers between AP clubs, regardless of nationality of player, should be negotiated between the respective managers, and then confirmed on the Domestic Transfer Confirmation Page.
  • Domestic (Championship and below)
    Each team may during the season purchase no more than 5 players from the Championship or the National Leagues. Worcester Warriors & London Wasps will receive two additional bids to be used exclusively on academy age players. These players must be bid for on the National League Bidding page, and each bid will be considered by the RFU on its own merits before being accepted or rejected.  No bid will be accepted until a minimum of 24 hours has elapsed from the time the bid was made, in order to afford other managers the opportunity to make a counter bid.
  • Foreign
    To make a foreign transfer (i.e. from any club outside of the AP, regardless of whether the player is English) a bid should be made on the Foreign Transfers Page, which will be considered by the RFU against the posted guidelines for purchase prices before being accepted or rejected. No bid will be accepted until a minimum of 24 hours has elapsed from the time the bid was made, in order to afford other managers the opportunity to make a counter bid.

    There will be a summer foreign transfer window, which will run as follows.
    Player Draft
    Worcester Warriors & London Wasps will participate in a player draft beginning the week of June 22nd. Both sides will be allowed to draft two players each. The draft picks will go as follows; 1. Worcester 2. Wasps 3. Wasps 4. Worcester.

    Round Bidding
    There will be two rounds of bidding. The first window will run the week starting June 29th and the second the week starting July 3rd. All sides will be allowed to sign one player each during the window. These bids are not protected if you do not have the funds in place to bid during the window you will lose the bid.     

    Open Bidding
    From July 13th the foreign market will be open to all bids similar to previous seasons. Due to the world cup the window will remain open till the end of September. 

Player Releases wrote:
Managers may choose to release players from their clubs, for which they will be offered compensation

Compensation will be paid as follows

£2 million – current international (must have played international rugby in the previous 12 months)
£1.5 million – former international
£1m – top flight experience
£0.5m – other

All released players will be deemed to have joined a Championship side and can be bid for on the National League Bidding page.
Retirements wrote:
There will be no compensation for retiring players.  Should a player who retires decide to come out of retirement and play again, then he will automatically go back to the club who he was playing for in the game when he retired.
Fixtures wrote:
There will be 22 Aviva Premiership games per season, plus the play offs. There will also be European Rugby Champions Cup, European Rugby Challenge Cup and Anglo Welsh Cup matches.  These games will take place once a week. A match thread will be put up every Monday. Home teams must be named by midnight on Tuesday. Away teams must be named by midnight on Wednesday. Failure to meet these deadlines is punishable by the addition of three match points to the oppositions final score, unless both sides fail to do so. Both teams must provide tactics by midnight on Thursday. Predictions will be open from 00:01 hours on Friday and remain open until 20:00 hours on Sunday. Managers will pm the scores that they think will happen from these games (apart from games in which they are involved).  An average of all predictions will be taken, and then 0.5 points added to each teams score for each prediction that had them as the winner, and that will then be the final score.

Managers are asked to provide detail as to why they have predicted a result.  To be considered a descriptive prediction this must be a full 3 lines long when entered into the text box. 
Teams wrote:
When naming your team, not only should you put the starting XV and replacements, but also tactics that your team will employ. Results will be affected by the tactics described.

In addition, each team must have the following:-

For domestic competition at least 8 England qualified players in your match day 23, and at least 4 of those must be in your starting XV.

For European competition at least 8 England qualified players in your match day 23, and at least 6 of those must be in your starting XV.

At least 2 props and 1 hooker on the bench.

All players must be eligible (not injured or banned).

Failure to comply with these rules will result in a 1 league point deduction.

If you fail to submit a team for a match, then the other team will be automatically awarded a 30-0 bonus point win. If both teams fail to submit a team, then it will be scored as a 0-0 draw.
Injuries and Suspensions wrote:
Injuries in this game do NOT reflect real life, they will be generated by me.

Players banned in real life will be ineligible for selection in this game for the duration of the ban.

Inclusion of injured/banned players will result in them being replaced by players on the bench, and the bench not having eight players, which may result in punishment if it concerns the front-row.

Punishment for fielding an ineligible player will be loss of one match point.
Financial Rewards wrote:
There will be no rewards for the result of an individual match, instead the managers will receive cash for predicting.

£2m for descriptive predictions 
£0.25m for scores on the doors predictions
Bonuses will be awarded on a scaled basis i.e. 2m for 5 games, 1.6m for 4 games and so on
If you fail to predict without first advising me that you are unable to do so that week, you will be fined £1m for a first offence, £2m for a second offence, £3m for a third offence etc upto a maximum of £5m per fine.

AP finishing positions.

Champions: 8m
Runners Up: 6m
Playoff Semi Finalist Losers: 5m
5th: 4m
6th: 3.5m
7th: 3m
8th: 2.5m
9th: 2m
10th: 1.5m
11th: 1m
12th: 0.5m

Heineken Cup

Losing Quarter Finalists - £2 million each
Losing Semi Finalists - £3 million each
Runners Up - £4 million
Champions - £5 million

Amlin Challenge Cup

Losing Quarter Finalists - £1 million each
Losing Semi Finalists - £2 million each
Runners Up - £3 million
Champions - £4 million

Anglo-Welsh Cup

Losing Semi Finalist - £1 million each
Runners Up - £2 million
Champions - £3 million


If your budgets falls below minus £10 million for any reason, the administrators (SJE) will step in and players from within your squad will be released for the relevant financial compensation (foreign transfer value) in order to bring your budget back above minus £10 million.


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Re: Season 8 Homepage I

Post by dammit_chris on Tue Jun 23, 2015 6:24 pm

Where he has ripped up the AP for the last few seasons and asserted himself very well in European competition too.

Lancaster is just too conservative, why not involve the best finisher around. Yes he has flaws in his defence but the likes of Ashton, Yarde etc aren't the finished article there either.

Find it baffling, it was odd after Roko had a good game v NZ and was then discarded completely. He's thoroughly deserving of his spot but i think I'd have Wade over Ashton and Yarde.

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Re: Season 8 Homepage I

Post by Sgt_Pooly on Tue Jun 23, 2015 7:02 pm

I'm not being funny but he's not in because he's not good enough. Yes he can finish but he can't do many other things to the required standard. Int rugby is a step up.

If a player can't make a squad of 50 he's obviously not good enough yet.

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Re: Season 8 Homepage I

Post by Steven_Sharks on Tue Jun 23, 2015 9:49 pm

Advice wanted

Who would you release from my squad if I were to sign Kriel?

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Re: Season 8 Homepage I

Post by Ozzy3213 on Tue Jun 23, 2015 9:59 pm

I'd say Escande or Venter.
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Re: Season 8 Homepage I

Post by dammit_chris on Tue Jun 23, 2015 11:28 pm

Anyone got any decent no7s available at all?

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Re: Season 8 Homepage I

Post by Sgt_Pooly on Wed Jun 24, 2015 7:59 am

I've got a fair few 7's.

But of a surprise:

http://www.leicestertigers.com/news/23117.php#.VYpVG1K6mnM

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Re: Season 8 Homepage I

Post by SirJohnnyEnglish on Wed Jun 24, 2015 8:13 am

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Re: Season 8 Homepage I

Post by Guest on Wed Jun 24, 2015 9:42 am

Shame he was an excellent player and really made tigers tick

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Re: Season 8 Homepage I

Post by prop_lyd on Wed Jun 24, 2015 11:13 am

Need a hand with who I should release please guys for moody
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Re: Season 8 Homepage I

Post by Fluxy on Wed Jun 24, 2015 11:14 am

Who you got?

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Re: Season 8 Homepage I

Post by prop_lyd on Wed Jun 24, 2015 11:25 am

May have to be one from kubs,r.jones,Ruskin or maybe a 2nd row
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Re: Season 8 Homepage I

Post by Fluxy on Wed Jun 24, 2015 11:26 am

I'll take Kubs and Brown for swarz if you still need a hooker!

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Re: Season 8 Homepage I

Post by BamBam on Wed Jun 24, 2015 11:26 am

I'd keep hold of Kubs, don't know much about Ruskin but Jones is very average for me

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Re: Season 8 Homepage I

Post by prop_lyd on Wed Jun 24, 2015 11:35 am

I've released brown now fluxy and have a hooker as my next target!!
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Re: Season 8 Homepage I

Post by Sgt_Pooly on Wed Jun 24, 2015 11:36 am

I'd lose Jones over Kubs. Kubs is a good TH

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Re: Season 8 Homepage I

Post by Ozzy3213 on Wed Jun 24, 2015 11:40 am

Rhodri Jones is bang average, I'd release him if I was you mate.
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Re: Season 8 Homepage I

Post by Sgt_Pooly on Wed Jun 24, 2015 11:44 am

Past Lee I think most of the Welsh props are pretty average. You can see why they're trying to steal our boys the buggers!

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Re: Season 8 Homepage I

Post by Ozzy3213 on Wed Jun 24, 2015 11:45 am

Jenkins and James can still hold their own on the loosehead side, but they are struggling at tighthead, which does make those two guys job a fair bit more difficult as well.
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Re: Season 8 Homepage I

Post by Sgt_Pooly on Wed Jun 24, 2015 2:42 pm

I was chuffed to get Fekitoa & Hughes in last year but even more happy to get Ioane, lads a brute!

http://youtu.be/k5d9gmf6oIg

Pity Prop got Naholo though, the All Blacks got involved in his deal to Clermont apparently:

http://youtu.be/j6khjoV_os

Imagine him and Savea on the wings with Ben Smith at FB...... Erm

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Re: Season 8 Homepage I

Post by Ozzy3213 on Wed Jun 24, 2015 2:49 pm

Yeah, but we have Brown, May and Nowell who are much better than them….
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Re: Season 8 Homepage I

Post by Sgt_Pooly on Wed Jun 24, 2015 3:31 pm

Haha....we're so lucky

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Re: Season 8 Homepage I

Post by Guest on Wed Jun 24, 2015 10:39 pm

Waholo and savea on wing with smith FB would be disaster against top teams?


NZ rely on kicking game and also physics dictates big wingers struggle being turned. Savea has an almost passable kicking game now but barely( best player in world for me though) Ben smith form FB but average kicking game. Add naholo(no kicking game) and NZ become easier to beat.

Not about best players about best balance. For me despite owning Folau I think dagg worlds best as he has best kicking game ever seen from an fb and also the other skills.

A back 3 of Jane Savea and smith is much more likely than Savea naholo and smith at top level. All about balance. Dagg no form but premier fb in world with Folau and Kearney for me

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Re: Season 8 Homepage I

Post by LukeLovesLuka on Wed Jun 24, 2015 10:42 pm

Ab back three almost certainly smith Savea Jane. Perfect balance of skills and devastating. Naholo off the bench I'd imagine. Serious impact.

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Re: Season 8 Homepage I

Post by Guest on Wed Jun 24, 2015 10:44 pm

Ozzy3213 wrote:Jenkins and James can still hold their own on the loosehead side, but they are struggling at tighthead, which does make those two guys job a fair bit more difficult as well.

Rob Evans was starting 1 at end of 6n and is still too young like Cole and every other young prop at his age he gets a stuffing now and then.

Against Italy he got killed first half and then came back strong which is the test.he won
Battle second half.


Remember watching vickery( at my own hands), Leonard, Cole, Wilson, Marler etc all getting killed at same age:

Welsh have loads of good young props. Whether they kick on is difference.
Samson lee looked world class. Rest a lottery. Watched Francis dismantle an unfit corbs then get subbed due to wood stuffing him. Likewise saw Evans get killed vs bath yet kill others

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Re: Season 8 Homepage I

Post by Guest on Wed Jun 24, 2015 10:53 pm

LukeLovesLuka wrote:Ab back three almost certainly smith Savea Jane. Perfect balance of skills and devastating. Naholo off the bench I'd imagine. Serious impact.


lol

Jane nowhere near ab on form( for me would be). They love a footballing back 3 so think Jane/smith Dagg/smith Savea is the line up.


Dagg lacking form like Jane but a core all black player. His kicking game means he is involved.
On form he offers a lot and always an NZ darling but can slip out of form easily.

NZ love a kicking game and he is q different planet to any other fb

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Re: Season 8 Homepage I

Post by BamBam on Wed Jun 24, 2015 10:58 pm

anonmattyt wrote:Waholo and savea on wing with smith FB would be disaster against top teams?


NZ rely on kicking game and also physics dictates big wingers struggle being turned. Savea has an almost passable kicking game now but barely( best player in world for me though) Ben smith form FB but average kicking game. Add naholo(no kicking game) and NZ become easier to beat.

Not about best players about best balance. For me despite owning Folau I think dagg worlds best as he has best kicking game ever seen from an fb and also the other skills.

A back 3 of Jane Savea and smith is much more likely than Savea naholo and smith at top level. All about balance. Dagg no form but premier fb in world with Folau and Kearney for me

Laugh Did you forget you own Dagg too!! I agree though, love Folau as a runner and strike threat but Dagg on form is one of my favourite players to watch, so much class and so important to the ABs attack

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Re: Season 8 Homepage I

Post by Guest on Wed Jun 24, 2015 11:09 pm

Bam despite Folau being seen as best player in world if fit on form for me Dagg much better.

I think vermaulen/Savea best players in world by a distance currently/

Based on s15 in last few weeks then etzbeth, Aaron Smith, Fekitoa, Tomane form players.


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Re: Season 8 Homepage I

Post by ChequeredJersey on Wed Jun 24, 2015 11:15 pm

Dagg is a better rounded player than Folau
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Re: Season 8 Homepage I

Post by LukeLovesLuka on Wed Jun 24, 2015 11:26 pm

anonmattyt wrote:
LukeLovesLuka wrote:Ab back three almost certainly smith Savea Jane. Perfect balance of skills and devastating. Naholo off the bench I'd imagine. Serious impact.


lol

Jane nowhere near ab on form( for me would be). They love a footballing back 3 so think Jane/smith Dagg/smith Savea is the line up.

I assume your 'lol' is sarcastic as I believe your not 13. But then your next sentence basically agrees with me?

Not many positions up for grabs in the ab side. Back three there is one. Front row maybe another. Past that all looks set to be an unsurprising XV. Unless the shortened RC sees someone burst into form.

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Post by Guest on Thu Jun 25, 2015 12:00 am

Luke no idea why lol is their to be honest!?? For me Jane will be 14for ab.

I meant lol at guaranteed line up for ab's,

We are losing strettle yet they have pitua moala Osborne etc

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Re: Season 8 Homepage I

Post by Sgt_Pooly on Thu Jun 25, 2015 5:04 am

Few big ups there Matt Wink

Rob Evans is a really poor scrummager, he got stuffed when he got a shot in the 6N, off a poor Italian outfit too.

"Based on s15 in last few weeks then etzbeth, Aaron Smith, Fekitoa, Tomane form players."

How did Etzebeth make that list? If I was picking players currently in top form he certainly wouldn't be one of them, did you not see his line out performance the other day?

Good shout on Jane, he's been in good form and in with a shout.

Dagg has been pretty dreadful but as you say he normally is then comes good at Int time. I personally prefer Folau despite him not having a kicking game he gets away with it.

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Post by Guest on Thu Jun 25, 2015 7:52 am

Etzbeth was great on weekend and has been. He is a great line out option.

If a hooker is picked who would not get in div 2 English side you can't blame the lock

http://www.planetrugby.com/story/0,25883,3824_56907,00.html

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Re: Season 8 Homepage I

Post by Sgt_Pooly on Thu Jun 25, 2015 8:04 am

Etzebeth playing decent, not questioned that.

If I was going to throw 3/4 names out who have been great in recent weeks he wouldn't be there. If I was going to pick 10/15 he'd probably not get in there

Agree on the others though, just thought Etzebeth was a bit random after 6/7 missed line outs last week and not being anything special of late.

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Post by Guest on Thu Jun 25, 2015 8:45 am

As a stats person go check them he took 5 out of 6 which considering that hookers throwing is a miracle. Kolisi took a lineout at the tail which was meant for front !! If a coloured is not good enough they should not play.

This SA directive to play coloureds over any other race where possible is unbelievable. Coloureds make up about 1% of the non white playing population. The non white playing population is about 8% of the total playing population.

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Re: Season 8 Homepage I

Post by Sgt_Pooly on Thu Jun 25, 2015 8:49 am

Even if he was immaculate in the line out he's hardly been a standout, just a bit random.

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Re: Season 8 Homepage I

Post by Steven_Sharks on Thu Jun 25, 2015 8:52 am

If we're putting up videos of new signings

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dbKQ-6cxgBU

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Re: Season 8 Homepage I

Post by Sgt_Pooly on Thu Jun 25, 2015 9:31 am

Haha love it Steve, he's a brute

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Re: Season 8 Homepage I

Post by Guest on Thu Jun 25, 2015 10:26 am

Kriel has been outstanding. I think he can make transition to test rugby

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Re: Season 8 Homepage I

Post by SirJohnnyEnglish on Thu Jun 25, 2015 10:42 am

If we are talking form players of Super 15 and new signings check out Nadolo Smile

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UXkYNblaz8s

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Re: Season 8 Homepage I

Post by Sgt_Pooly on Thu Jun 25, 2015 10:47 am

I'd certainly throw him in a top 10, along with Naholo and most of the Hurricanes team.

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Re: Season 8 Homepage I

Post by Sgt_Pooly on Thu Jun 25, 2015 10:57 am

Didn't realise you'd signed Nadolo Johnny

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Post by SirJohnnyEnglish on Thu Jun 25, 2015 11:01 am

Signed him off CJ. One man wrecking ball. Must be genuine world class these days. hes single handedly destroyed defences the last two seasons

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Post by Guest on Thu Jun 25, 2015 11:48 am

Nadolo has been utterly tremendous this s15 been best player in it with Allende

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Post by Steven_Sharks on Thu Jun 25, 2015 1:01 pm

Nadolo brilliant. S15 standard has been good. Still think the scrums are weak aside from a few of the better franchises.

Lions a good outfit now as are Cheetahs. Its not so black and white as to who the best SA Franchises are now.

I think the Tahs will win the S15 again. Think they can beat a Barrett-less Canes.

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Re: Season 8 Homepage I

Post by Fluxy on Thu Jun 25, 2015 1:04 pm

Isn't Barrett starting?

Also hello from deepest darkest Croatia

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Post by Sgt_Pooly on Thu Jun 25, 2015 1:37 pm

Barrett is playing I think Steve:

http://www.rugbyweek.com/news/article.asp?id=4685

I hope they're full strength, be great if they won it after the season they've had.

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Post by Steven_Sharks on Thu Jun 25, 2015 4:59 pm

Got him mixed up with Cruden

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Post by ChequeredJersey on Thu Jun 25, 2015 9:53 pm

Was a hard trade that I'm sure will come back to haunt me Sad
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Post by SirJohnnyEnglish on Sat Jun 27, 2015 9:24 am

12-3 to Canes at half time. I'd say Brumbies have missed more first up tackles in this one game then in their last 3/4 games. Vito having a great game and seems to be everywhere.

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Post by Guest on Sat Jun 27, 2015 9:33 am

Vito been quality all year best lineoutbackrow in NZ

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