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Season 8 Homepage I

Post by SirJohnnyEnglish on Sat 13 Jun 2015, 6:49 pm

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Welcome to Season 8 of the Aviva Premiership fantasy rugby game.  Below are the rules of the game which must be adhered to.  If there are any situations that arise in the course of the game which are not covered by the rules, a final decision will be made by the RFU (SJE) as to how the situation will be resolved.
 
 
Senior Squads wrote:
The maximum squad size is 40 senior players.  If a team has more than 40 players in their squad then they will be fined £1 million per player over the permitted amounts per day for the first seven days. If after 7 consecutive days a team still has more than the permitted number of players then the team will be fined £2 million per player per day, and fined 1 league point per player per day for the next seven days. If after this time a team still has more than the permitted number of players in their squad, the RFU (SJE) will remove players at its discretion to bring them back under the permitted numbers. There will be no right of appeal to players being removed.

Be aware that all tier one international matches which are played during the season will count in the game, and players selected in the match day 23's for those matches will not be eligible to play for their clubs on that weekend, therefore you must give due consideration to the make-up of your squad.
Academy Rules wrote:
Each team will be allowed to have an academy squad of 23 players.  Players who are in the academy must be born on or after 1st September 1993. 

Any player, who is at any Premiership club in real life, either in their senior, academy or AASE squads, can be bid for on the domestic bidding page. Players who are at your own club in real life and are coming through the academy system must be bid for if you want them in your own academy.
Transfers wrote:

  • Domestic (other AP Teams)
    Each team has a budget to use in the purchase of players. Domestic transfers between AP clubs, regardless of nationality of player, should be negotiated between the respective managers, and then confirmed on the Domestic Transfer Confirmation Page.
  • Domestic (Championship and below)
    Each team may during the season purchase no more than 5 players from the Championship or the National Leagues. Worcester Warriors & London Wasps will receive two additional bids to be used exclusively on academy age players. These players must be bid for on the National League Bidding page, and each bid will be considered by the RFU on its own merits before being accepted or rejected.  No bid will be accepted until a minimum of 24 hours has elapsed from the time the bid was made, in order to afford other managers the opportunity to make a counter bid.
  • Foreign
    To make a foreign transfer (i.e. from any club outside of the AP, regardless of whether the player is English) a bid should be made on the Foreign Transfers Page, which will be considered by the RFU against the posted guidelines for purchase prices before being accepted or rejected. No bid will be accepted until a minimum of 24 hours has elapsed from the time the bid was made, in order to afford other managers the opportunity to make a counter bid.

    There will be a summer foreign transfer window, which will run as follows.
    Player Draft
    Worcester Warriors & London Wasps will participate in a player draft beginning the week of June 22nd. Both sides will be allowed to draft two players each. The draft picks will go as follows; 1. Worcester 2. Wasps 3. Wasps 4. Worcester.

    Round Bidding
    There will be two rounds of bidding. The first window will run the week starting June 29th and the second the week starting July 3rd. All sides will be allowed to sign one player each during the window. These bids are not protected if you do not have the funds in place to bid during the window you will lose the bid.     

    Open Bidding
    From July 13th the foreign market will be open to all bids similar to previous seasons. Due to the world cup the window will remain open till the end of September. 

Player Releases wrote:
Managers may choose to release players from their clubs, for which they will be offered compensation

Compensation will be paid as follows

£2 million – current international (must have played international rugby in the previous 12 months)
£1.5 million – former international
£1m – top flight experience
£0.5m – other

All released players will be deemed to have joined a Championship side and can be bid for on the National League Bidding page.
Retirements wrote:
There will be no compensation for retiring players.  Should a player who retires decide to come out of retirement and play again, then he will automatically go back to the club who he was playing for in the game when he retired.
Fixtures wrote:
There will be 22 Aviva Premiership games per season, plus the play offs. There will also be European Rugby Champions Cup, European Rugby Challenge Cup and Anglo Welsh Cup matches.  These games will take place once a week. A match thread will be put up every Monday. Home teams must be named by midnight on Tuesday. Away teams must be named by midnight on Wednesday. Failure to meet these deadlines is punishable by the addition of three match points to the oppositions final score, unless both sides fail to do so. Both teams must provide tactics by midnight on Thursday. Predictions will be open from 00:01 hours on Friday and remain open until 20:00 hours on Sunday. Managers will pm the scores that they think will happen from these games (apart from games in which they are involved).  An average of all predictions will be taken, and then 0.5 points added to each teams score for each prediction that had them as the winner, and that will then be the final score.

Managers are asked to provide detail as to why they have predicted a result.  To be considered a descriptive prediction this must be a full 3 lines long when entered into the text box. 
Teams wrote:
When naming your team, not only should you put the starting XV and replacements, but also tactics that your team will employ. Results will be affected by the tactics described.

In addition, each team must have the following:-

For domestic competition at least 8 England qualified players in your match day 23, and at least 4 of those must be in your starting XV.

For European competition at least 8 England qualified players in your match day 23, and at least 6 of those must be in your starting XV.

At least 2 props and 1 hooker on the bench.

All players must be eligible (not injured or banned).

Failure to comply with these rules will result in a 1 league point deduction.

If you fail to submit a team for a match, then the other team will be automatically awarded a 30-0 bonus point win. If both teams fail to submit a team, then it will be scored as a 0-0 draw.
Injuries and Suspensions wrote:
Injuries in this game do NOT reflect real life, they will be generated by me.

Players banned in real life will be ineligible for selection in this game for the duration of the ban.

Inclusion of injured/banned players will result in them being replaced by players on the bench, and the bench not having eight players, which may result in punishment if it concerns the front-row.

Punishment for fielding an ineligible player will be loss of one match point.
Financial Rewards wrote:
There will be no rewards for the result of an individual match, instead the managers will receive cash for predicting.

£2m for descriptive predictions 
£0.25m for scores on the doors predictions
Bonuses will be awarded on a scaled basis i.e. 2m for 5 games, 1.6m for 4 games and so on
If you fail to predict without first advising me that you are unable to do so that week, you will be fined £1m for a first offence, £2m for a second offence, £3m for a third offence etc upto a maximum of £5m per fine.

AP finishing positions.

Champions: 8m
Runners Up: 6m
Playoff Semi Finalist Losers: 5m
5th: 4m
6th: 3.5m
7th: 3m
8th: 2.5m
9th: 2m
10th: 1.5m
11th: 1m
12th: 0.5m

Heineken Cup

Losing Quarter Finalists - £2 million each
Losing Semi Finalists - £3 million each
Runners Up - £4 million
Champions - £5 million

Amlin Challenge Cup

Losing Quarter Finalists - £1 million each
Losing Semi Finalists - £2 million each
Runners Up - £3 million
Champions - £4 million

Anglo-Welsh Cup

Losing Semi Finalist - £1 million each
Runners Up - £2 million
Champions - £3 million


If your budgets falls below minus £10 million for any reason, the administrators (SJE) will step in and players from within your squad will be released for the relevant financial compensation (foreign transfer value) in order to bring your budget back above minus £10 million.


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Re: Season 8 Homepage I

Post by SirJohnnyEnglish on Tue 30 Jun 2015, 2:03 pm

Yeah think they will struggle week to week once a few injuries come into play but can definitely see them causing a few surprises. Will be great to Sanchez week in week out at flyhalf such a great little 10.

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Re: Season 8 Homepage I

Post by dammit_chris on Tue 30 Jun 2015, 5:50 pm

What do people think of Nasi Manu, looking for a big running backrower to cover BV when he's away on int. duty.

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Re: Season 8 Homepage I

Post by BamBam on Tue 30 Jun 2015, 6:34 pm

Think he's a good player Chris, but joining Edinburgh means Pro12 and they're in the Challenge Cup too, not sure how he'll be rated later in the season

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Re: Season 8 Homepage I

Post by Sgt_Pooly on Tue 30 Jun 2015, 6:40 pm

I like him, good skill set and strong carrier.

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Re: Season 8 Homepage I

Post by Guest on Tue 30 Jun 2015, 7:27 pm

Manu is decent Chris. Edinburgh also have du Preez who is a great player so interesting to see where manu fits. Du Preez comfortable at 6 though so could work well

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Re: Season 8 Homepage I

Post by dammit_chris on Tue 30 Jun 2015, 8:12 pm

Cheers guys, appreciate the input. Both Scottish teams are really coming on very well, enjoy watching Glasgow play.

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Re: Season 8 Homepage I

Post by Fluxy on Tue 30 Jun 2015, 8:15 pm

I was going to say, even though he will be playing internationals Josh Strauss is definitely a strong 8 and will make the position his for Scotland

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Re: Season 8 Homepage I

Post by dammit_chris on Tue 30 Jun 2015, 8:18 pm

Was thinking of him Fluxy, just for the beard - like Adam Ashe too, but think he's just out of academy age!

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Re: Season 8 Homepage I

Post by prop_lyd on Tue 30 Jun 2015, 8:34 pm

Strauss would be a good pick up. Ashe dropped off a bit but think was due to injury, same with fusaro I think.
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Re: Season 8 Homepage I

Post by Ozzy3213 on Tue 30 Jun 2015, 11:05 pm

Roll on Friday and the fixture list being announced for next season.
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Re: Season 8 Homepage I

Post by Ozzy3213 on Tue 30 Jun 2015, 11:42 pm

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Re: Season 8 Homepage I

Post by Sgt_Pooly on Wed 01 Jul 2015, 9:42 am

That's 3 of your players off to the same Japanese side Matt:

http://m.news24.com/sport24/Rugby/Folau-to-join-Bok-duo-in-Japan-20150701

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Re: Season 8 Homepage I

Post by Steven_Sharks on Wed 01 Jul 2015, 12:06 pm

http://www.planetrugby.com/story/0,25883,3551_58974,00.html

better explanation here. Doesn't look like Folau will miss much S15 for the Tahs

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Re: Season 8 Homepage I

Post by Sgt_Pooly on Wed 01 Jul 2015, 12:22 pm

None will Steve, all are back for the Super season

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Re: Season 8 Homepage I

Post by LukeLovesLuka on Wed 01 Jul 2015, 12:46 pm

Full season s15, rc, wc, Japan, full season s15...

Too much rugby?

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Re: Season 8 Homepage I

Post by Fluxy on Wed 01 Jul 2015, 12:55 pm

I was going to mention that point luke. It is almost a continuous season of rugby, some can handle it, but it does mean they fatigue and probably can't play at their best.

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Re: Season 8 Homepage I

Post by Guest on Wed 01 Jul 2015, 1:22 pm

Much less games than an NH player will play if you include AP and heino, 6n, WC and warm up games.


Unfortunately they are a lot more sorted than us. They have less games by far in s15 and each country has rules In place which mean they can't play them in each game of s15 hence why squads are used so much.
Also playing in Japan is not that strenuous.

Having central contracts with the respective countries unions means that players welfare is managed.

England and particularly top 14 are the most attritional and mismanaged players. They play so many more games than any Southern Hemisphere players

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Re: Season 8 Homepage I

Post by dammit_chris on Wed 01 Jul 2015, 1:57 pm

Out of interest who do people think are the best s15 players still available in the game? Want to bump my squad up a bit for next season as v NH heavy, but only really watch the NZ teams in s15.

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Re: Season 8 Homepage I

Post by Sgt_Pooly on Wed 01 Jul 2015, 1:59 pm

Time will tell if it impacts on players form I guess, there's stacks doing it this year.

Most of Highlanders & Hurricanes team have been pretty impressive.

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Re: Season 8 Homepage I

Post by Guest on Wed 01 Jul 2015, 2:04 pm

Lions have a few connibrick the wing has been superb as has warren whiteley.

The brumbies 8 is a great signing for anyone

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Re: Season 8 Homepage I

Post by dammit_chris on Wed 01 Jul 2015, 2:38 pm

Any good no7s?

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Re: Season 8 Homepage I

Post by Sgt_Pooly on Wed 01 Jul 2015, 2:58 pm

You've already got the best 7 in the S15 this season in Pocock imo.

Past that there's Hooper/Cane (who've had great comps) but none of the others have been that good really. Some decent performers from the SA franchises and Savea has carried really well.

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Re: Season 8 Homepage I

Post by Steven_Sharks on Wed 01 Jul 2015, 4:57 pm

Pocock doesn't have the allround game of Hooper or Cane.

Whiteley as an 8 the best backrower not in the game for my money.

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Re: Season 8 Homepage I

Post by Guest on Wed 01 Jul 2015, 6:53 pm

Whitely thoroughly deserves his bok call up

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Re: Season 8 Homepage I

Post by Sgt_Pooly on Wed 01 Jul 2015, 7:00 pm

He got capped last year didn't he?

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Re: Season 8 Homepage I

Post by Sgt_Pooly on Wed 01 Jul 2015, 7:11 pm

Super 15 team of the season:

1. Steven Kitschoff
2. Dan Coles
3. Ben Franks
4. James Broadhurst
5. Sam Whitelock
6. Jaco Kriel
7. David Pocock
8. Warren Whiteley

9. Aaron Smith
10. Beuden Barrett
11. Namani Nadolo
12. Ma'a Nonu
13. Conrad Smith
14. Waisake Naholo
15. Ben Smith

http://en.espn.co.uk/southafrica/rugby/story/266545.html

Can't argue with that really bar maybe Franks at tighthead, most were standouts.

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Re: Season 8 Homepage I

Post by Ozzy3213 on Wed 01 Jul 2015, 8:24 pm

I'd have the Highlanders hooker over Coles, but it's a marginal call. Also not sure Whitelock was consistently good enough to make the side. Can't argue too much with the rest of it.
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Re: Season 8 Homepage I

Post by Fluxy on Wed 01 Jul 2015, 10:52 pm

I don't want to sound biased, but to be fair Franks has been very strong for the Canes, the only other candidates I can think of (again my player!) Koch, Malherbe, or even Holmes, who whenever he played for Reds always was square and solid, easily Aussies best TH just played in a dire side!

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Post by Guest on Wed 01 Jul 2015, 11:41 pm

Maherbe for me by a bit. Koch did well when he played but maherbe was superb.

It's a pretty weak competition scrummaging wise which will be interesting once Argentinians in it

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Re: Season 8 Homepage I

Post by Fluxy on Thu 02 Jul 2015, 9:54 am

Both have been very impressive in a mixed stormers side. Hard to split them really, as both played very well from memory when the other was benching/injured. Koch has been in a few more team of the weeks on planetrugby, however that really isn't a great tool to measure one's performance!

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Re: Season 8 Homepage I

Post by BamBam on Thu 02 Jul 2015, 11:00 am

Wallabies squad:

Backs: Adam Ashley-Cooper, Kurtley Beale, Quade Cooper, Israel Folau, Bernard Foley, Will Genia, Matt Giteau, Rob Horne, Samu Kerevi, Tevita Kuridrani, Christian Lealiifano, Drew Mitchell, Taqele Naiyaravoro, Nick Phipps, Henry Speight, Matt Toomua, Joe Tomane, Nic White.

Forwards: David Pocock, Tatafu Polota-Nau, Scott Sio, Rob Simmons, Will Skelton, James Slipper, Toby Smith, Wyclif Palu, Ben McCalman, Sean McMahon, Dean Mumm, Stephen Moore, Sekope Kepu, Rory Arnold, Dave Dennis, James Hanson, Scott Fardy, Tetera Faulkner, James Horwill, Scott Higginbotham, Greg Holmes, Michael Hooper.

http://i.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/international/69915974/Michael-Cheika-overlooks-James-O-Connor-and-Karmichael-Hunt-for-Wallabies-duties

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Post by Steven_Sharks on Thu 02 Jul 2015, 11:30 am

Wonder who'll captain the side.

Will they be able to fit in Hooper and Pocock?

No JOC is interesting. Been poor for the Reds but tough to look good for them.

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Re: Season 8 Homepage I

Post by Steven_Sharks on Thu 02 Jul 2015, 11:32 am

Is Sam Carter injured?

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Re: Season 8 Homepage I

Post by BamBam on Thu 02 Jul 2015, 11:35 am

Yep, think he's out until after the RC

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Re: Season 8 Homepage I

Post by BamBam on Thu 02 Jul 2015, 4:15 pm

I'm never going to complain about people arguing on the homepage again.

Some of the arguments on the football leagues make Pooly and Matt look like kittens fighting over a ball of string

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Re: Season 8 Homepage I

Post by Sgt_Pooly on Thu 02 Jul 2015, 4:39 pm

Me and Matt don't fight, we flirt Wink

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Re: Season 8 Homepage I

Post by Guest on Thu 02 Jul 2015, 4:43 pm

Steven_Sharks wrote:Wonder who'll captain the side.

Will they be able to fit in Hooper and Pocock?

No JOC is interesting. Been poor for the Reds but tough to look good for them.


JOC been out of form for years. Unfortunately I think we are watching one of the brightest talents I have ever seen waste his talent.

I thought he would be one of the greats. Now he is more famous for the worst kick of all time
When he gave away that try last year

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Re: Season 8 Homepage I

Post by dammit_chris on Thu 02 Jul 2015, 9:33 pm

S15 question - what do people think of Seta Tamanivalu, just seen that he's been called into ABs squad. Trying to work out last foreign atm!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ijKepWc8YW8

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Re: Season 8 Homepage I

Post by Fluxy on Thu 02 Jul 2015, 9:39 pm

Wouldn't bother when SJE has him Whistle

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Re: Season 8 Homepage I

Post by dammit_chris on Thu 02 Jul 2015, 10:05 pm

Probably wise advice there Fluxy!!!

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Re: Season 8 Homepage I

Post by Driver on Fri 03 Jul 2015, 10:14 am

I don't think Australia will get out the group.

Can't believe Sinoti Sinoti has been left out of the Samoa squad.
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Re: Season 8 Homepage I

Post by Sgt_Pooly on Fri 03 Jul 2015, 11:43 am

AP fixtures:

http://www.premiershiprugby.com/mobile/matchcentre/fixtures/fixtures.php

Home to Gloucester first game, quite winnable.

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Re: Season 8 Homepage I

Post by Fluxy on Fri 03 Jul 2015, 3:09 pm

Just so you are all aware, I might struggle doing predos as I'm doing Sevens and the City this weekend.

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Re: Season 8 Homepage I

Post by Guest on Sat 04 Jul 2015, 12:01 am

Worst article ever http://intheloose.com/2014/09/13/potential-french-xv-doesnt-look-quite-right/


Tuloh never capped by NZ van de merwe never get in France side like Armitage. Can pick holes wherever.

I fancy highlanders tomorrow if Barrett not right. Barrett superb goal kicking and attacking wise but a poor defender. Been struggling injury wise and not kicked all week. If not fit he could struggle with highlanders pressure. Aaron Smith as WC and best 9 world he is can be got at so that link could break down.

Can see highlanders doing what they did to tahs and pinning them back and forcing issues. Julian Savea improved kicking game but neither him nor Skudder great in that respect.

If Barret fully fit with smith think they could win by a bit although ardie savea a big loss as expected to be out. For a front foot team at intensity Barret sensational he is great in space and has exceptional vision.

Hurricanes have the leaders and experience but highlanders smart and disciplined.

Worth the entry for naholo vs Savea or Smith vs Perenara. Add in smith vs fekitoa etc etc

Should be a cracker

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Re: Season 8 Homepage I

Post by Guest on Sat 04 Jul 2015, 12:08 am

"Players to watch: The Hurricanes are doing their best to give Ardie Savea as much time as possible to recover from a knee strain in time for Saturday's final and rightly so, because the young openside gives the Hurricanes huge power with the ball in hand and at the breakdown. With Savea also unlucky to miss out on the All Blacks squad for the Rugby Championship, he would love another chance to send a message to Steve Hansen. Elsewhere we will be keeping tabs on the electric Nehe Milner-Skudder, who has dazzled us all season with his dangerous runs off the wing or at full-back."


Surely smith vs Perenara or smith vs fekitoa naholo vs Savea are players to watch. Odd preview on PR

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Re: Season 8 Homepage I

Post by Sgt_Pooly on Sat 04 Jul 2015, 1:00 am

Odd to mention Savea's impact at the breakdown as he hardly has an impact there?!?!? He is a very good carrying option in the wide channels though, has bags of pace.

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Post by Guest on Sat 04 Jul 2015, 1:20 am

He has a big impact at breakdown and has great workrate. He outplayed pocock last week and made significant steals including one that created a try.
At breakdown He has done many others but also came unstuck against a couple.

Game that sums him up in terms of where he is at was against Tahs where he carved them to pieces with a running line
Then made some steals but was then at fault for their score. He is a world class player in waiting like Barret, Pollard, fekitoa, serfontein, fickou etc but all are at different stages.

He is helped by having a go forward pack. Coles, goodes,franks thrush and broadhurst have given him a platform to play. He is 100kg and needs to be 105-110 ideally. He was 92 last year and his extra bulk shows.




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Post by Sgt_Pooly on Sat 04 Jul 2015, 8:19 am

I can't see anything world class in him.

He's great ball in hand but nothing like a typical 7, he's more like a centre. He offers very little at the breakdown but counters that with great pace out wide. He's like having an extra back which suits their style when countering.

I didn't think he outplayed Pocock.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly on Sat 04 Jul 2015, 8:56 am

This game is insane, such pace and adventure.

Cains set piece and losing ball in contact costing them so far. Highlanders defence strong and getting plenty of turnovers. Great run from Nonu!

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