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Season 8 Homepage I

Post by SirJohnnyEnglish on Sat 13 Jun 2015, 6:49 pm

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Welcome to Season 8 of the Aviva Premiership fantasy rugby game.  Below are the rules of the game which must be adhered to.  If there are any situations that arise in the course of the game which are not covered by the rules, a final decision will be made by the RFU (SJE) as to how the situation will be resolved.
 
 
Senior Squads wrote:
The maximum squad size is 40 senior players.  If a team has more than 40 players in their squad then they will be fined £1 million per player over the permitted amounts per day for the first seven days. If after 7 consecutive days a team still has more than the permitted number of players then the team will be fined £2 million per player per day, and fined 1 league point per player per day for the next seven days. If after this time a team still has more than the permitted number of players in their squad, the RFU (SJE) will remove players at its discretion to bring them back under the permitted numbers. There will be no right of appeal to players being removed.

Be aware that all tier one international matches which are played during the season will count in the game, and players selected in the match day 23's for those matches will not be eligible to play for their clubs on that weekend, therefore you must give due consideration to the make-up of your squad.
Academy Rules wrote:
Each team will be allowed to have an academy squad of 23 players.  Players who are in the academy must be born on or after 1st September 1993. 

Any player, who is at any Premiership club in real life, either in their senior, academy or AASE squads, can be bid for on the domestic bidding page. Players who are at your own club in real life and are coming through the academy system must be bid for if you want them in your own academy.
Transfers wrote:

  • Domestic (other AP Teams)
    Each team has a budget to use in the purchase of players. Domestic transfers between AP clubs, regardless of nationality of player, should be negotiated between the respective managers, and then confirmed on the Domestic Transfer Confirmation Page.
  • Domestic (Championship and below)
    Each team may during the season purchase no more than 5 players from the Championship or the National Leagues. Worcester Warriors & London Wasps will receive two additional bids to be used exclusively on academy age players. These players must be bid for on the National League Bidding page, and each bid will be considered by the RFU on its own merits before being accepted or rejected.  No bid will be accepted until a minimum of 24 hours has elapsed from the time the bid was made, in order to afford other managers the opportunity to make a counter bid.
  • Foreign
    To make a foreign transfer (i.e. from any club outside of the AP, regardless of whether the player is English) a bid should be made on the Foreign Transfers Page, which will be considered by the RFU against the posted guidelines for purchase prices before being accepted or rejected. No bid will be accepted until a minimum of 24 hours has elapsed from the time the bid was made, in order to afford other managers the opportunity to make a counter bid.

    There will be a summer foreign transfer window, which will run as follows.
    Player Draft
    Worcester Warriors & London Wasps will participate in a player draft beginning the week of June 22nd. Both sides will be allowed to draft two players each. The draft picks will go as follows; 1. Worcester 2. Wasps 3. Wasps 4. Worcester.

    Round Bidding
    There will be two rounds of bidding. The first window will run the week starting June 29th and the second the week starting July 3rd. All sides will be allowed to sign one player each during the window. These bids are not protected if you do not have the funds in place to bid during the window you will lose the bid.     

    Open Bidding
    From July 13th the foreign market will be open to all bids similar to previous seasons. Due to the world cup the window will remain open till the end of September. 

Player Releases wrote:
Managers may choose to release players from their clubs, for which they will be offered compensation

Compensation will be paid as follows

£2 million – current international (must have played international rugby in the previous 12 months)
£1.5 million – former international
£1m – top flight experience
£0.5m – other

All released players will be deemed to have joined a Championship side and can be bid for on the National League Bidding page.
Retirements wrote:
There will be no compensation for retiring players.  Should a player who retires decide to come out of retirement and play again, then he will automatically go back to the club who he was playing for in the game when he retired.
Fixtures wrote:
There will be 22 Aviva Premiership games per season, plus the play offs. There will also be European Rugby Champions Cup, European Rugby Challenge Cup and Anglo Welsh Cup matches.  These games will take place once a week. A match thread will be put up every Monday. Home teams must be named by midnight on Tuesday. Away teams must be named by midnight on Wednesday. Failure to meet these deadlines is punishable by the addition of three match points to the oppositions final score, unless both sides fail to do so. Both teams must provide tactics by midnight on Thursday. Predictions will be open from 00:01 hours on Friday and remain open until 20:00 hours on Sunday. Managers will pm the scores that they think will happen from these games (apart from games in which they are involved).  An average of all predictions will be taken, and then 0.5 points added to each teams score for each prediction that had them as the winner, and that will then be the final score.

Managers are asked to provide detail as to why they have predicted a result.  To be considered a descriptive prediction this must be a full 3 lines long when entered into the text box. 
Teams wrote:
When naming your team, not only should you put the starting XV and replacements, but also tactics that your team will employ. Results will be affected by the tactics described.

In addition, each team must have the following:-

For domestic competition at least 8 England qualified players in your match day 23, and at least 4 of those must be in your starting XV.

For European competition at least 8 England qualified players in your match day 23, and at least 6 of those must be in your starting XV.

At least 2 props and 1 hooker on the bench.

All players must be eligible (not injured or banned).

Failure to comply with these rules will result in a 1 league point deduction.

If you fail to submit a team for a match, then the other team will be automatically awarded a 30-0 bonus point win. If both teams fail to submit a team, then it will be scored as a 0-0 draw.
Injuries and Suspensions wrote:
Injuries in this game do NOT reflect real life, they will be generated by me.

Players banned in real life will be ineligible for selection in this game for the duration of the ban.

Inclusion of injured/banned players will result in them being replaced by players on the bench, and the bench not having eight players, which may result in punishment if it concerns the front-row.

Punishment for fielding an ineligible player will be loss of one match point.
Financial Rewards wrote:
There will be no rewards for the result of an individual match, instead the managers will receive cash for predicting.

£2m for descriptive predictions 
£0.25m for scores on the doors predictions
Bonuses will be awarded on a scaled basis i.e. 2m for 5 games, 1.6m for 4 games and so on
If you fail to predict without first advising me that you are unable to do so that week, you will be fined £1m for a first offence, £2m for a second offence, £3m for a third offence etc upto a maximum of £5m per fine.

AP finishing positions.

Champions: 8m
Runners Up: 6m
Playoff Semi Finalist Losers: 5m
5th: 4m
6th: 3.5m
7th: 3m
8th: 2.5m
9th: 2m
10th: 1.5m
11th: 1m
12th: 0.5m

Heineken Cup

Losing Quarter Finalists - £2 million each
Losing Semi Finalists - £3 million each
Runners Up - £4 million
Champions - £5 million

Amlin Challenge Cup

Losing Quarter Finalists - £1 million each
Losing Semi Finalists - £2 million each
Runners Up - £3 million
Champions - £4 million

Anglo-Welsh Cup

Losing Semi Finalist - £1 million each
Runners Up - £2 million
Champions - £3 million


If your budgets falls below minus £10 million for any reason, the administrators (SJE) will step in and players from within your squad will be released for the relevant financial compensation (foreign transfer value) in order to bring your budget back above minus £10 million.


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Re: Season 8 Homepage I

Post by Sgt_Pooly on Sat 25 Jul 2015, 5:10 pm

Just caught up myself.

SA backrow, Du Plessis brothers (esp Bismark) and WLR very good. De Allende great

Broadhurst lasted long then......


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Re: Season 8 Homepage I

Post by Sgt_Pooly on Sat 25 Jul 2015, 5:11 pm

Brussow is amazing at the breakdown, great to see him back

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Re: Season 8 Homepage I

Post by BamBam on Sat 25 Jul 2015, 5:13 pm

Lood De Jager has to be a strong challenger for dopiest looking rugby player

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Re: Season 8 Homepage I

Post by BamBam on Sat 25 Jul 2015, 5:14 pm

Great try, excellent delay on the pass from Pollard and Kriel looked like he was shot out of a cannon there

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Re: Season 8 Homepage I

Post by BamBam on Sat 25 Jul 2015, 5:15 pm

Not often you see someone carve up the Nonu/Smith midfield!

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Re: Season 8 Homepage I

Post by Sgt_Pooly on Sat 25 Jul 2015, 5:16 pm

Great line Kriel. De Allende is torturing Nonu

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Re: Season 8 Homepage I

Post by Sgt_Pooly on Sat 25 Jul 2015, 5:17 pm

BamBam wrote:Lood De Jager has to be a strong challenger for dopiest looking rugby player

How is he a rugby player and not a librarian???

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Re: Season 8 Homepage I

Post by prop_lyd on Sat 25 Jul 2015, 5:21 pm

Pollard showing a couple of nice touches, great angle from comes too!!
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Re: Season 8 Homepage I

Post by Sgt_Pooly on Sat 25 Jul 2015, 5:22 pm

Pollard looking better this week. Dagg has had a stinker to be fair, not surprised he's going off.

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Re: Season 8 Homepage I

Post by prop_lyd on Sat 25 Jul 2015, 5:27 pm

Not purposefully bugging up my player but a winger to run over someone would work today with how tight the defence is
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Re: Season 8 Homepage I

Post by Sgt_Pooly on Sat 25 Jul 2015, 5:59 pm

SA will be gutted to lose that.

Basic errors and not bagging points cost them. It shows how good NZ are when they can bring in Sopoaga (who's a bang average FH) and still win.

SA arguably better man for man but that's not enough.

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Re: Season 8 Homepage I

Post by Ozzy3213 on Sat 25 Jul 2015, 6:08 pm

Not sure Sopoaga is bang average to be fair.
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Re: Season 8 Homepage I

Post by BamBam on Sat 25 Jul 2015, 6:45 pm

prop_lyd wrote:Not purposefully bugging up my player but a winger to run over someone would work today with how tight the defence is

Who are you talking about Prop?

I thought Sopoaga had a good game

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Re: Season 8 Homepage I

Post by Sgt_Pooly on Sat 25 Jul 2015, 6:53 pm

Yea he decent Bam, I just don't think he's anything past competent

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Re: Season 8 Homepage I

Post by prop_lyd on Sat 25 Jul 2015, 11:31 pm

Naholo fella, think nz needed someone to run over people
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Re: Season 8 Homepage I

Post by BamBam on Sat 25 Jul 2015, 11:41 pm

Ah OK, I thought you meant him, but he's injured so wasn't sure!

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Re: Season 8 Homepage I

Post by Ozzy3213 on Sun 26 Jul 2015, 9:04 am

I'm not sure he would have made a difference to be honest. The AB's had little possession, and both wings played well, with Piutau MOTM.
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Re: Season 8 Homepage I

Post by dammit_chris on Sun 26 Jul 2015, 1:32 pm

Will Hooper get in trouble for this? Hope he doesn't as players holding back support runners is becoming a bad part of the game, looks like a citing could be on the cards though.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1QwDckSIl4w

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Re: Season 8 Homepage I

Post by Driver on Sun 26 Jul 2015, 3:02 pm

I thought it was a good showing by boks again this week, New Zealand executed at key times. Coles try would give most front rowers wood.

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Re: Season 8 Homepage I

Post by Guest on Sun 26 Jul 2015, 3:17 pm

I thought for a debut in a tough environment sopoanga did really well.
A definite 3rd choice ahead of Slade
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Re: Season 8 Homepage I

Post by Guest on Sun 26 Jul 2015, 4:02 pm

Very decent article

This hiding of cooper foley and giteau is not the solution for me

http://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/rugby/rugby-news/australia-v-argentina-debrief-kicking-9729869

Aussie goal kicking is a huge issue. Foley has some real issues with goal kicking and cooper likewise

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Re: Season 8 Homepage I

Post by ChequeredJersey on Sun 26 Jul 2015, 6:26 pm

I missed all te rugby due to work Sad will hope to catch up next weekend
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Re: Season 8 Homepage I

Post by Steven_Sharks on Mon 27 Jul 2015, 9:52 am

Read Pocock was brilliant for Oz. It has to be time for Hooper/Pocock from the off (ban permitting)


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Re: Season 8 Homepage I

Post by BamBam on Mon 27 Jul 2015, 10:31 am

Missed the Oz game, but saw the Hooper punch.

Surely, he'll be banned, holding players back is not something we want to see, but given that he was able to spin 360 degrees before punching Sanchez with the same hand that was being held, I reckon he's in trouble

With my England hat on .. what a shame for Australia Run

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Re: Season 8 Homepage I

Post by dammit_chris on Mon 27 Jul 2015, 11:19 am

Maximum he will get is one game, can't see the SANZAR officials giving him anything that will prevent him taking part in any of the WC games, they've always been very lenient in comparison with RFU - French are the same, look what Huget got away with!

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Re: Season 8 Homepage I

Post by Ozzy3213 on Mon 27 Jul 2015, 11:34 am

Pool tables added to last weeks match threads.
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Re: Season 8 Homepage I

Post by Driver on Mon 27 Jul 2015, 1:45 pm

It's World Rugby who will ban him in believe Chris
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Re: Season 8 Homepage I

Post by dammit_chris on Mon 27 Jul 2015, 3:46 pm

Think you have a bit of a gem in Cordero Steve.

http://www.planetrugby.com/story/0,25883,3551_65830,00.html

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Re: Season 8 Homepage I

Post by Sgt_Pooly on Mon 27 Jul 2015, 3:48 pm

JdP gets in again. His scrummaging has been superb so far, wasn't expecting him to be this good after the Super season he had.

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Re: Season 8 Homepage I

Post by BamBam on Mon 27 Jul 2015, 4:04 pm

He's been good, deserves his place in team of the week

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Re: Season 8 Homepage I

Post by Guest on Mon 27 Jul 2015, 4:48 pm

Likewise beast has been superb in this RC. Has franks where he wanted him: Cordero has some step

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Re: Season 8 Homepage I

Post by Sgt_Pooly on Mon 27 Jul 2015, 4:50 pm

Beast has been decent too, SA front row has been ahead of the others by a distance imo, BdP has been superb.

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Re: Season 8 Homepage I

Post by Steven_Sharks on Tue 28 Jul 2015, 11:56 am

Hoopers dynamism is frightening. He drives people so far back when he wins the collision.

I hope he isn't banned as he and Pocock together could really worry NZ.

Cordero got great feet and is pushing hard for a place where Argentina have real depth. There super rugby franchise is going to be strong.

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Re: Season 8 Homepage I

Post by Sgt_Pooly on Tue 28 Jul 2015, 12:15 pm

Fardy has been great, I think they'd miss his physicality and line out presence.

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Re: Season 8 Homepage I

Post by Sgt_Pooly on Tue 28 Jul 2015, 6:42 pm

http://www.planetrugby.com/story/0,25883,3551_66146,00.html

Laugh

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Re: Season 8 Homepage I

Post by Steven_Sharks on Tue 28 Jul 2015, 8:26 pm

I like Fardy, but he is dispensable when your other options are Hooper and Pocock.

I'd probably give Dean mumm a start ahead Simmons

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Re: Season 8 Homepage I

Post by Sgt_Pooly on Wed 29 Jul 2015, 5:02 am

I'm not so sure Steve, Fardy adds a lot.

You'll lose a big carrier in the tight and his line out work is very good. Individually Pocock & Hooper are good players but I'm not sure they'll work together. They might get a few good games in till people suss them out possibly??

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Re: Season 8 Homepage I

Post by Sgt_Pooly on Wed 29 Jul 2015, 5:58 am

http://www.the42.ie/new-zealand-scrum-analysis-south-africa-2239798-Jul2015/

Great scrum analysis. Show's how Woodcock was struggling against JdP and others.

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Re: Season 8 Homepage I

Post by SirJohnnyEnglish on Wed 29 Jul 2015, 9:07 am

Match threads will be up today sorry folks for the delay been snowed in at work!

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Re: Season 8 Homepage I

Post by Steven_Sharks on Wed 29 Jul 2015, 10:31 am

This is a huge blow for Argentina

http://www.planetrugby.com/story/0,25883,3551_66281,00.html

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Re: Season 8 Homepage I

Post by Steven_Sharks on Wed 29 Jul 2015, 10:34 am

Why on earth would it be easier for a side to suss out Pocock and Hooper than a back row with Fardy in it?

I've never known a back row to be sussed out.

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Re: Season 8 Homepage I

Post by Fluxy on Wed 29 Jul 2015, 10:59 am

Big blow for Argentina if he doesn't come through

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Re: Season 8 Homepage I

Post by Sgt_Pooly on Wed 29 Jul 2015, 11:03 am

Because neither offer much of carrying game in the tight. Pocock is fantastic on the deck and Hooper immense at carrying in the wider channels but neither offer much in tight or in the line out.

Units get found out all the time, it's part of the game. I'm just not a massive fan of Hooper as a flanker, I feel you need to adjust your side to accommodate him.


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Re: Season 8 Homepage I

Post by Ozzy3213 on Wed 29 Jul 2015, 11:58 am

In 2 games in the RC so far, all but 1 Australian lineout has been taken by Simmons or Fardy. Play Hooper and Pocock together and the lineout will be a huge issue.
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Re: Season 8 Homepage I

Post by Steven_Sharks on Wed 29 Jul 2015, 12:41 pm

Do we ignore Skelton being the biggest issue in terms of jumping for Oz? He doesn't even offer a front ball option. Is that acceptable as a lock? I'd say probably not.

You have two of the best back row players in the world and I don't see how you can't try and put them together. Especially when you have no idea who plays at 8 at the time being.

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Re: Season 8 Homepage I

Post by Fluxy on Wed 29 Jul 2015, 12:53 pm

If you stick Fardy/Mumm at second row and play McCalman, there is some line out presence, and I think you can't say Skelton is an issue, when NZ have shown a bit of ingenuity come the line out why not use him rather than ignore him. Quick throws to Skelton at the front or even short line outs to have him as an option in the midfield.

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Re: Season 8 Homepage I

Post by Steven_Sharks on Wed 29 Jul 2015, 1:01 pm

My side for this week. Don't know if I'll be on this week.

1. Ben Robinson
2. Scott Baldwin
3. John Afoa
4. Luke Romano
5. Pieter Steph Du Toit
6. Damien Chouly
7. Jaco Kriel
8. Nick Easter
9. Luke McGrath
10. Steven Myler
11. Teddy Thomas
12. Luther Burrell
13. Jonathan Joseph
14. Santiago Cordero
15. Rob Kearney

16. Schalk Brits
17. Gurthro Steenkamp
18. Tadhg Furlong
19. George Kruis
20. Michael Hooper
21. Karl Dickson
22. Colin Slade
23. Juan Martin Hernandez

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Re: Season 8 Homepage I

Post by Sgt_Pooly on Wed 29 Jul 2015, 1:01 pm

Skelton adds a multitude of other things that the Aussie pack have been crying out for ie, a physical option in the engine room.

Launchbury is a similar player for England as in he's rarely used but again he adds other things.

I'm not sure Hooper is one of the best backrow players in the world but I've never really rated him that way, other disagree which is fine.

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Re: Season 8 Homepage I

Post by Ozzy3213 on Wed 29 Jul 2015, 1:23 pm

Steve, the key thing for me with them is that they both have pretty niche skillsets, rather than being all rounders. With that being the case, to play them together you have to have the rest of the pack balanced right. If they were South African, they could do it, as the front 5 all carry well, as does Vermeulen. He also provides a lineout option in the back row, meaning you don't need the flankers to contribute hugely in the tight carrying or lineout stakes. They can concentrate on what they are good at. Australia don't have that luxury. They have 1 lock who carries but doesn't jump, and one who jumps and does little else. Neither Slipper or Holmes are big carrying props and they don't know who to pick at number 8. It would be a massive gamble for them playing Pocock and Hooper on the flanks together.
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Re: Season 8 Homepage I

Post by Sgt_Pooly on Wed 29 Jul 2015, 1:27 pm

I'd throw in the rolling maul too Pete were neither Pocock or Hooper add much on defence whilst Fardy is strong here.

By "sussing out" the combo I mean teams will deploy an offensive tactic either in the line out or maul that could really hurt Aus due to their flank combo (purely hypothetical)

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