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Post by Prometheus on Tue Jun 16, 2015 7:48 pm

First topic message reminder :

So, to save me opening a hundred different threads that would most likely be populated by House and myself, here's a thread that everyone is welcome to contribute to on Lucha Underground, Ring of Honor, PWG, Evolution, New Japan, NOAH, AAA and basically anything that is not WWE, NXT or TNA.
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Post by Dr Gregory House MD on Sun Jul 19, 2015 8:48 pm

I'll be up for battleground though my usual rule for WWE ppv on a work night is in play that if I'm falling asleep I'm not going to fight it

It's worth pointing out, more for Prom than anyone else (as I know he's going to be mad enough to do this) but watching a G1 climax, while rewarding and probably the most consistent high quality wrestling you'll see anywhere all year, is brutal, I think this year might be more manageable for less matches over more shows but it takes a certain kind of dedication to get this Poopie watched

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Post by Prometheus on Sun Jul 19, 2015 8:50 pm

I'm going to miss part of it on holiday. But, I'll probably be prioritizing G1 over other wrestling for the next month.
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Post by Fernando on Mon Jul 20, 2015 8:45 pm

Global Force Wrestling is following up its #GFWGrandSlamTour and its TV tapings at the Orleans Arena in Las Vegas with its first events outside of the United States, in October in the United Kingdom.

GFW invades the Grimsby Auditorium in Grimbsy, Lincolnshire, on Oct. 28 and the Lynnsport and Leisure Park in King’s Lynn, Norfolk, on Oct. 30. Promotion co-founders Jeff and Karen Jarrett will appear, as will former heavyweight champion Nick Aldis, legendary women’s champion Mickie James, British wrestling star Doug Williams and host of WrestleTalk TV Marty Scurll.

“I’m thrilled to be heading to the UK to share the GFW brand with the incredible fans across the pond,” Jeff Jarrett said. “Since day one no fan base has inundated us with more requests to bring a show to them than those in the United Kingdom.

“What’s unique about this is we wanted to bring high-caliber shows to towns that haven’t previously had access to them, with most touring companies staying exclusively in major cities like London, Manchester and Glasgow. We decided to give new towns an opportunity to experience a great live wrestling event.”

Aldis, who recently made a successful debut in GFW, is from King’s Lynn.

“I’m excited and proud to be part of GFW’s first UK shows,” said Aldis. “It will be great to finally appear on a major show in my hometown. I hope the fans feel as excited as I do.”

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Post by Prometheus on Wed Jul 22, 2015 8:23 am

Does anyone know if there is a way to watch Kobe World?
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Post by Dr Gregory House MD on Wed Jul 22, 2015 12:30 pm

I've yet to come across the show, I'll let you know if I find anything

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Post by Prometheus on Wed Jul 22, 2015 12:40 pm

DX-TV.com  The Ricochet match (which is where I'm starting) conveniently starts at the 4h mark.  I've heard some very good things about the main event.
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Post by Dr Gregory House MD on Wed Jul 22, 2015 1:20 pm

Thanks I'd check out the Tozawa match as well, I've heard some good things about that match but given the output of Tozawa this year I'm not suprosed

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Post by Dr Gregory House MD on Wed Jul 29, 2015 11:05 pm

Just watch this, it's amazing


https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ofkMReimM5I

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Post by Prometheus on Thu Jul 30, 2015 11:05 am

That was awesome. Cheers!

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Post by Dr Gregory House MD on Wed Aug 05, 2015 11:40 pm

Progress Chapter 20 is now available on demand, should be worth a watch if there's any time between the G1

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Post by Prometheus on Thu Aug 06, 2015 11:38 am

Cheers House, saw the tweets yesterday.  You guessed right though, I'm a couple of days behind on G1, which I want to catch up on.  

I'm also currently watching the finale (final?) LU.  TBH the quality of LU has dipped a little in the last couple of months, which IMO still makes it one of the best shows, but now quite the heights it had around the turn of the year and also the trios tournament.
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Mundo / Patron. I'm not even taking points off for the ref bump, I loved this whole match. Mundo has done a great job of going from super face to supreme heel and the interference was well judged. If they do a season 2 and they can pull off some make up where the beautiful Mundo is now a scarred creature, they've a hell of a story there. Alberto El Patron really is a wrestling megastar. Despite the ref bump and interference, 4*

Cero Miedo match, Pentagon Jr vs Vampiro. I've blown hot and cold on this feud. And this type of match really isn't my thing. But you can't say the fans weren't into it, from the entrance of Vampiro on they gave this so much atmosphere. Fair dues to Vampiro who even tried some kind of moonsault on this and put everything into the one last outing. Pentagon Jr should be one of the top 5 wrestlers in the world. Could this match elevate him to that? Well, if LU comes back and they get the story right, he could easily be the biggest heel in LU. 3* for the match, but for the atmosphere it created in the room 5*




I'm also wondering about the AAA event at the weekend, somehow a Cage / Patron hair vs hair has me interested.
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Post by Prometheus on Thu Aug 06, 2015 12:51 pm

Re: Progress, I've not been reading the tweets in detail, I expect there will be a commentary version up in the future.  Also, for reasons I've not worked out I can't seem to Google Chromecast it, which isn't a killer, but I do prefer to watch on the TV.
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Post by Prometheus on Mon Aug 31, 2015 11:23 am

Are you keeping up on BOLA Doc?

Saw on Twitter that on night 2 that a Fenix / Aero Star vs Drago / Pentagon Jr match was so liked by the fans that they were throwing money in the ring.

Winner:
I don't think any surprises that ZSJ went over and is now a made man on the Indie circuit. Also quite a patch of wins, Ricochet, Pentagon Jr, Marty Scurll & Chris Hero / Mike Bailey

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Post by Dolphin Ziggler on Mon Aug 31, 2015 11:28 pm

Marty is getting rave reviews on my twitter feed. Hope its true, deserves a lot more than hes got in his career and TNA really should have hired him properly. With some guidance on character work I think he could be golden for a big company.

Also, I do hope ZSJ is being looked at by NXT. The guy must be the darling of the indie circuit right now.

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Post by Prometheus on Tue Sep 01, 2015 6:16 pm

I think Scurrl has defined his character very well in the last 1-2 years. He can look really good in the ring with a good talent, so AJ made him look a million dollars for example, but he's not quite a ring general yet. Still only 27 he can make it.

Be interesting to see how many Noah bookings ZSJ takes and whether that could be an avenue to next year's New Japan Super Juniors as an NXT alternative.
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Post by Fernando on Wed Sep 02, 2015 8:24 pm

Appears either Matt Striker is leaving or their closing down Sad

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Post by Prometheus on Wed Sep 02, 2015 10:19 pm

Yes, I saw that too.

I expect it means the end of LU. Which is very sad for two reasons. Firstly, I think it was the most innovative wrestling show since Nitro first aired. And secondly, where will I see Pentagon Jr., Jack Evans, Angelico and Son of Havoc?

Still there is, I guess a 1% chance it's just the end of Striker who may have seen the end after the AAA fiasco.
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Post by Prometheus on Fri Sep 04, 2015 10:36 am

Just thrown on NJPW's Road to Destruction for the Finlay vs White fight.  Some of the other tags might be fun.  Gonna try to finish off G1 then.

Well, well, well.  Look who just turned up in a 6-man tag.  Juice Robinson.  Good to see CJ Parker back wrestling.  And mostly good to see him just wearing a pair of trunks and not saddled with that terrible eco-warrior NXT gimmick. And he's not buried on the card, look who he's tagging with. Very, very interesting to see if him leaving NXT because that wasn't developing him and taking his career in his own hands will work out.
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Post by Prometheus on Sun Sep 06, 2015 3:17 pm

Wow. Progress Chapter 21 today. I really must finish up 20 at some point. Doc / anyone else, did you watch it?
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Post by Prometheus on Mon Sep 07, 2015 4:43 pm

Progress Chapter 20 http://www.progresswrestling.com/

Noam Dar / The Pastor William Eaver
I'm such a fan of Noam Dar, easily one of the best talents in the UK.  Late replacement for Dave Mastiff, and product of the Progress Academy, William Eaver has a great gimmick, and the crowd chants were spot on "He's working on the sabbatch.  Let's go Jesus  Jesus sucks".  This got the day underway with a lot of energy, Dar sold well for Eaver, with the clothesline from Heaven giving the surprise.  2.5*

Wild Boar Mike Hitchman / Bubblegum / Kyle Ashmore / Flash Morgan Webster
This kind of did it's job, a fast-moving 4-man to get the crowd going.  I don't think this translates so well to the recording, but everyone worked hard.  There's a few botches, and a few teased moves that don't come out.  But you can't complain when there's a beautiful reverse 'rana, an outstanding Spanish Fly and a nice Buddy Driver.  3*

Sebastian vs Damian Dunn
This one is a bit off, like they've not worked with each other before, or are rushing to get their work in the time allowed.  It's not terrible, but it doesn't flow with some odd spots of staying down too long to sell, and others where big moves are no sold, finishing with a rather weak looking GTS.  2.5*

Sumerian Death Squad vs The Hunter Brothers
There are so many tag teams out there with great names, WWE really is missing out.  I've seen a good bit of Tommy End this year, he's probably in my top 5 of people I'd never step in the ring with.  I'm a mark for a good tag match, and for me this was one with some excellent double team moves from the Hunter Brothers.  I'll take half a mark off for the kick out (roll off) from the pin fall attempt following the double stomp.  3.5*

Thunderbastard match.  Nathan Cruz / Damon Moser / El Ligero / Rampage Brown / Mark Haskins / Marty Scurll / Eddie Dennis / Tom Irvin
I think they made this Royal Rumble-style match work with all the stories of the factions at the start.  Of course these multi-men always have their problems and this was no exception, but it was a lot of fun, and when we got to the final 3 it became really good.  3.5*

Jimmy Havoc / Will Ospreay
To be watched later....
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Post by Prometheus on Wed Sep 09, 2015 9:49 am

That Jimmy Havoc / Will Ospreay match from Progress 20

I'm not really a fan of hard core brawls, but this had probably one of the biggest stories in wrestling behind it, so I can buy why the face would start the match by throwing the heel through the audience twice and why the thumb tacks, bamboo canes, chairs and tables are out etc. There's a really sick table bump, etc. The psychological build to the finish was really good. I'd expect that this was quite an amazing match to watch live. I'll give it 4* just because this really isn't quite my thing.
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Post by Dr Gregory House MD on Wed Sep 09, 2015 10:49 am

Pretty much agree on everything you said on chapter 20, I think I enjoyed the SDS vs Hunters a bit more but it's a minor thing

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Post by Prometheus on Wed Sep 09, 2015 10:56 am

I was going 4* on it House, just took a wee bit off it for that poorly worked spot.

And 4* for me is kind of a "should watch" match. 4.5* has a good chance of being on my best of the year, and 5* well it's the kind of stuff that should be in contention for best ever.

It's funny we are talking about that match as I'm in a bit of a tag-team buzz today. So, I'm just re-watching Okada & Nakamura / The Briscoes. Have you any other stuff from this year that I might have missed to recommend?
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Post by Dr Gregory House MD on Wed Sep 09, 2015 11:10 am

Not really the samurai TV cull has made it difficult to find Dragon Gate and many of the minor Japanese promotions, I'm still trying to get caught up with PWG, if you're interested in Evolve they have put on a couple of really good cards over their past few shows

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Post by Prometheus on Wed Sep 09, 2015 11:13 am

I was just starting to get into some of those Japanese promotions when that happened. As I understand it, the disappointing thing is that they have a network type thing you can subscribe to, but you need a Japanese credit card to do that, so I'd happily legally pay for this, but I can't.
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Post by Dr Gregory House MD on Wed Sep 09, 2015 11:53 am

Tell you what you could do, I hype a lot about Ishii's 2015 has been disappointing compared to his 2015, but that was only because Ishii had an ATG year last year, it was a travesty he didn't win most outstanding wrestler in the observer awards, matches of his from last year I'd highly recommend are

Vs Naito 1 (New Beginning Osaka)
Vs Naito 3 (Invasion Attack)
Vs Homma (Dontaku)
Vs Ibushi (Yokomhama Arena)
Vs Honma (G1 Day 4)
Vs Tanahashi (G1 Day 6)
Vs Nakamura (G1 Day 7)
Vs Shibata (G1 Day 10)
Vs Nagata (G1 Day 11)
Vs Yujiro (King of Pro Wrestling...yes you read that right)
Vs Goto (Power Struggle)

All of these matches come with my highest recommendation of i had to pick a top 3 it would be Naito 1, Goto (which are both 5*) & Nakamura, he also had another match with Naito in the NJ Cup and a match with Kushida that I can't remember the event but I think it was in Taiwan, anyways worth a watch if you fancy it


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Post by Prometheus on Wed Sep 09, 2015 12:33 pm

Thx. I think the opening match is worth a quick note.

I see a lot of potential similarities here with Rusev / Ziggler. You have the relatively nimble smaller guy, and the built like a rock big fella. And each can work their style. To me, there is absolutely no reason why Rusev and Ziggler can't put on a match that approaches that quality. I accept they are going to wrestle a different match, but you could have Rusev teasing an ankle injury and working Ziggler's neck / back hard (see that awesome German suplex or the brainbusters) for the submission. And you get an awesome war of attrition. Or you can have two lame unable to wrestler blondes outside the ring and when one slaps the other they forget about their own match..... *sigh*
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Post by Prometheus on Wed Sep 09, 2015 2:00 pm

Ishii Vs Naito 1 (New Beginning Osaka, 2014)
Both men leave absolutely everything in the ring. This is a last man standing battle in all but name. There's a lariat that turns Naito inside out and back to front. There are suplexes and brainbusters that legit look like you should not stand up from them. There's also a near fall that is so near that I actually stopped watching the match as I really believed it was a 3 count. 5*
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Post by Prometheus on Wed Sep 09, 2015 2:35 pm

Iishi Vs Naito 3 (Invasion Attack, 2014)
Man, New Japan treats their titles so well most of the time. Again you get the idea that each man would put everything on the line for the win. It's a different match to the previous, but still so impressive. The reversals, the counters, the blow for blow pacing. All excellent. 4.5*
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Post by Dr Gregory House MD on Wed Sep 09, 2015 3:38 pm

Prometheus wrote:Ishii Vs Naito 1 (New Beginning Osaka, 2014)
Both men leave absolutely everything in the ring.  This is a last man standing battle in all but name.  There's a lariat that turns Naito inside out and back to front.  There are suplexes and brainbusters that legit look like you should not stand up from them.  There's also a near fall that is so near that I actually stopped watching the match as I really believed it was a 3 count.  5*

It's not half bad is it, was my 3rd best match of 2014 after the G1 final and Zayn v Neville

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Post by Prometheus on Wed Sep 09, 2015 8:59 pm

Did you see Ishii vs Big Damo from RevPro this year House? It will almost definitely make my top 10 of the year.
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Post by Dr Gregory House MD on Thu Sep 10, 2015 12:31 am

It's on my to watch list along with a pile of PWG dvds

Just booked my tickets for ICW Fear and Loathing today, Grado challenging Galloway for the belt, Rhyno, Tommy End in a cage, Mick Foley as Comissioner, it's gonna be amazing

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Post by Prometheus on Thu Sep 10, 2015 9:57 am

I saw that card being revealed on Twitter. It looks great!
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Post by The_Enigma on Thu Sep 10, 2015 10:03 am

Prometheus - I reckon WWA may be something of interest to you! 

To describe WWA in a sentence, You create your very own promotion and are basically given a random set of wrestlers, managers and such from promotions all over the world such as WWE, TNA, ROH, NJPW. By trading with other promotions, you can assemble any kind of promotion you want where you get to book your very own weekly TV show along with PPV shows. I think you would be perfect so head over to WWA and check it out!

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Post by Prometheus on Thu Sep 10, 2015 10:15 am

Oh you know how to butter a boy up, El Silver Tongue.
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Post by Prometheus on Thu Sep 10, 2015 10:41 am

Dr Gregory House MD wrote:Pretty much agree on everything you said on chapter 20, I think I enjoyed the SDS vs Hunters a bit more but it's a minor thing

I just saw the lineup for WXW's tag tournament next month. Looks very much like SDS will meet reDRagon in round 2, which on paper is a tag MOTY contender.
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Post by Dr Gregory House MD on Sun Sep 13, 2015 1:09 am

With Wrestle Kingdom just around the corner, for a bit of fun I've put together my dream card, hopefully keeping things from being too unrealistic

Dark Match- NJPW Rambo

Same as last year (which I think worked quite well) assume anyone I've missed off the main card is in year

Match 1- IWGP Jr Heavyweight Tag Team Championship Match- ReDragon (c) vs The Young Bucks vs RPG Vice vs The Briscoes

A multi man Jr tag has become almost tradition in recent years to open the Jan 4th show (and a feature of almost every other PPV card), hopefully with more ROH talent rumoured to be making the trip east, The Briscoes could be the perfect addition to spice things up between the other big 3 teams, to be honest the winner is irrelevant

Match 2- Yuji Nagata, Jushin Liger, Mascara Dorada, #BigMike Elgin & Jay White vs Manabanu Nakanishi, Rysuke Taguchi, Tiger Mask, Toru Yano & Finlay Jr

Standard opening multi man tag, keeps the budding Nagata & White relationship alive and hopefully given Elgin's successful 1st tour they might bring him back for their big show

Match 3- Suzuki Gun (Shelton Benjamin, K.E.S (Davey Boy Smith Jr & Lance Archer), El Desperado & Taka Michinoku) vs Team NOAH (Naiomichi Marufuji, Dangen Yankees (Masato Tanaka & Takashi Sugiura), Yoshinari Ogawa & Zack Sabre Jr)

Another multi man to integrate the Suzuki invasion of NOAH onto the big show, I must admit I'm not following that closely to the NOAH stuff so their team is picked on personal preference (and Marufuji because he's their figurehead), I'd have NOAH win as they haven't had any joy getting their belts back from Suzuki-Gun as of yet with Marufuji pinning Benjamin as he's not a champion

Match 4- Sho Tanaka & Yohei Komatsu vs Ricochet & Matt Sydal

Not much behind this match but Sydal has come in to work with NJPW and who better to team him up with than his Dragon Gate cohort and fellow American than Ricochet, plus if New Japan is looking to boost its attendance figures again trying to get some Dragon Gate fans interest wouldn't be a bad idea, as for their choice of opponents, well Tanaka & Komatsu are already better than 50% of the roster so they deserve a chance to shine in a big spot, I'd have the DG boys win though to set up a Junior Tag match in the future

Match 5- Togi Makabe, Tomohiro Ishii & Tomoaki Honma vs Bullet Club (Karl Anderson, Doc Gallows & Bad Luck Fale)

The hard nuts vs the Bullet Club, Honma & Makabe are actually former stable mates and tag partners but it's not referenced very much anymore and Ishii is their perfect partner, I'd have the Bullet Club do the job with any member of the other team getting the pin

Match 6- GHC Championship Match- Minority Suzuki (c) vs Katsuyori Shibata

I'll be honest, their isn't much reason for this match to happen, bar some interaction in a Tenyru retirement tag match, but I feel Suzuki should lose the belt to a NOAH guy on a NOAH show, and let's face it this would be Frak amazing, Suzuki to go over for the reasons stated above

Intermission

Match 7- IWGP Jr Championship Match- Kushida (c) vs Alex Shelly

The Timesplitters explode! Spurred on from their failure to win the Jr Tag belts from ReDragon at Destruction, Shelly challenges Kushida to a match, Kushida to go over a further cement himself as they guy in the Junior division

Match 8- IWGP Tag Team Championship- Tencozy (Hiroyoshi Tenzan & Satoshi Kojima) (c) vs Los Ingobernables (Rush & La Sombra)

After winning the belts for one last run from the Bullet Club, the veterans of Tencozy face off against Naito's boys from CMLL, who came in and won the Tag League, I'd have the heels win the belts going into the joint Fantasticamania shows

Match 9- Kota Ibushi (c) vs Kenny Omega

The Golden Lovers explode! (I've got more tag teams exploding than TNA) Following Ibushi's win over Makabe at Destruction and Omega's loss to Kushida, Omega begins targeting Ibushi bring up their last in DDT and call backs to his involvement in the title match from Invasion Attack, from a business point of view this match main event what (I think) was the best attended DDT shows ever and one of the fee non G1 shows to sell out Sumo Hall in years, and from a match quality standards point it should be outstanding, Ibushi to retain as the Never Belt is perfect for him at this point

Match 10- Intercontinental Championship Match- Hirooki Goto (c) vs Tetsuya Naito

Not really much to say on this one, I want Goto to survive Nakamura and really move into his own as the IC champion, that said I'd have Naito win this match as he's been fantastic as a heel and has the CMLL connection going into Fantasticamania

Match 11- Shinsuke Nakamura vs AJ Styles

What can I say, this would be an awesome fresh match that again could help do business in the Dome, I'd make this, either officially or unofficially, an IWGP No 1 Contenders match with Nakamura winning and going on to take the belt at Invasion always


Main Event- IWGP Championship Match- Kazuchika Okada (c) vs Hiroshi Tanahashi

Well all know this match is happening, well all know Okada is going to win to complete the story that started 3 years ago, and most importantly we all know it's going to be incredible as always

Thoughts or anyone else's cards would be appreciated

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Post by Dr Gregory House MD on Sun Sep 13, 2015 11:29 pm

Prometheus wrote:Did you see Ishii vs Big Damo from RevPro this year House?   It will almost definitely make my top 10 of the year.

Just watched this, oh my good god in heaven! Great match and easily in contention for my top 3 hoss fights of the year, Ishii is just the master of his style of wrestling, he knows when to sell, he knows when to no sell, he knows when to try and look like he's no selling even though you know he's really selling, he knows when to struggle and when to hit the big move, as for Damo that's the best match I've ever seen from him, I actually got to see the guy live a few years ago in the grounds of Dundee Uni, at that point he was a fairly generic Indy guy with an unsettlingly hairy back, but he's transformed into just an absolute beast, the finish as well, hardly the best coast to coast I've ever seen but good enough to be worth the effort and I popped huge seeing a guy the size of Damo pull it off though, my favourite part of the match though was when Damo countered the sliding D by catching Ishii by the throat, the look on Ishii's face was a picture ****1/2

Really looking forward to the rest of the card, but sleep beckons soon


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Post by Prometheus on Mon Sep 14, 2015 10:04 am

Really glad you enjoyed that House, it was certainly one of the most fun matches I've seen this year. I popped huge for the coast to coast, just because I didn't expect it to come off. I don't want to be unfair to Big Damo, but he doesn't appear to have the athleticism of a Vader, Willy Mack or a Uhaa Nation. So fair dues to him on this.

Your WK card really makes me want it to happen tomorrow.

I think you make a number of right calls. E.g. I think that Nakamura has said that he's moved on from the IC now. So, it makes sense that Goto survives that and Nakamura is in a fight for the #1 contenders. Also we need a way to keep AJ relevant now that he's not champ.

I think you are also right to point to more ROH involvement. We had the announcement at the end of G1 that ROH would be in Japan next year and I'm pretty sure I saw a tweet about it this weekend (Oct 16?). So this is an allegiance that is progressing and using wrestlers in the run up makes complete sense.

As your booking makes so much sense I really can't try to improve it. So here are a couple of dream matches just as fantasy:

King vs King Match. King Ricochet vs King of Strong Style Nakamura. Obviously this was meant to be on your RevPro card. But I don't think we've seen this.

Super Stiff Style Match. Shibata vs Pentagon Jr.
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Re: Japan, Indies and Everything Else

Post by Prometheus on Tue Sep 15, 2015 2:58 pm

This is Progress Chapter 21 (no results revealed):

London Riots vs Origin
This type of match would be better if the heels were the physically bigger team and El Ligero and Nathan Cruz could be hitting the hope spots.  It was also maybe 5 minutes too long for me (which would have also missed the silly ending).  Having said that, the crowd really gave a lot to this and the opener gave them a lot of energy for the rest of the show.  2*

Jack Gallagher vs Pastor Bill Eaver
In Chapter 20, the ridiculously experienced for his age, Noam Dar put William Eaver over.  He's rewarded here with one of the best T-shirts in wrestling and a match against the very technically capable Jack Gallagher.  There was some fine wrestling here, but the match just lacked a bit of a story.  Still, keep your eyes on these two.  2.5*

Eddie Dennis vs Zack Gibson
I thought this was a really nicely worked match.  Not a fan of the ending, but still.  3*

Spoiler in the spoiler:
Jimmy Havoc is back looking for a rematch with Will Ospreay for the title.  Jim gives into him, with a no DQ match, which if Havoc wins he gets a crack at the title.  The spin is, it's against his Regression stablemate Phil Robinson, and threatens to fire both of them if Phil gifts the win.  

It's a death match.  I'm not a fan of all the weapons, but I see how this fits in the story.  5* for the angle.  I don't really know how to rate the match.

Marty Scurll vs Kris Travis
Rightly Travis gets a standing ovation on an emotional return to the Progress ring and even the Villain breaks kay fabe.  Understandably the occasion threatens to overshadow the match, but there's some great wrestling in this too.  3.5*

Sumerian Death Squad vs
open Challenge taken up by:
Roderick Strong & Adam Cole.
I can see how you might not like this, but your initials might have to be JR.  It was a real surprise to me who challenged and I loved so much of this that I'll forgive the odd botch.  4*

Will Ospreay vs Mark Haskins
Haskins might be the best wrestler to not get talked about, maybe being easily mistaken for Scurll doesn't help.  I enjoyed this a lot.  4.5*  


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Re: Japan, Indies and Everything Else

Post by Samo on Tue Sep 15, 2015 8:25 pm

Big Damo returns to ICW and will face Jack Jester at Fear and Loathing VIII

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Re: Japan, Indies and Everything Else

Post by Marky on Thu Sep 17, 2015 8:02 pm

PROGRESS have announced their 2016 season ticket will go on sale in November, cheapest ticket is £154, which is all 11 chapters held in London next year at £14 per show. Excellent value and I will aim to get one.

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Re: Japan, Indies and Everything Else

Post by Prometheus on Thu Sep 17, 2015 8:14 pm

Did you see Chapter 21 Marky? I think it was arguably their best.
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Re: Japan, Indies and Everything Else

Post by Marky on Thu Sep 17, 2015 8:31 pm

I'm yet to watch, but I have a "free month" code for Progress on demand I'm yet to use so want to bulk watch a load of chapters when I use it! (Only used a mate's account so far for On Demand).

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Re: Japan, Indies and Everything Else

Post by Prometheus on Mon Sep 21, 2015 4:19 pm

Kris Travis just retired from wrestling. If the news on Sting is equally career-ending, that's not a good day for wrestling.
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Re: Japan, Indies and Everything Else

Post by Samo on Mon Sep 21, 2015 4:53 pm

Such a shame for Travis, but the bigger picture is he beat cancer. If he cant wreslte again Im sure its a sacrifice he's willing to make to keep healthy.

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Re: Japan, Indies and Everything Else

Post by Crimey on Mon Sep 21, 2015 4:58 pm

It seems he might not be healthy, had to quit because he was recently in hospital. Said news, I saw him at PCW and he was pretty decent.

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Re: Japan, Indies and Everything Else

Post by Dr Gregory House MD on Mon Sep 21, 2015 6:13 pm

Horrible news, at least he got to come back and do it one last time for whatever it's worth

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Re: Japan, Indies and Everything Else

Post by Dolphin Ziggler on Mon Sep 21, 2015 7:35 pm

Indeed. Kudos to him for fighting back and getting his return, to put two fingers up to cancer like a lot of sufferers want to do. I hope he remains healthy enough to thrive in life outside of the ring.

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Post by Fernando on Mon Sep 21, 2015 11:34 pm

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