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Post by msp83 on Sat Jun 27, 2015 8:27 pm

After speculations about cancelling/postponing the tour, BCCI has made it clear that the tour is on and that the selectors will meet soon to pick the squad. India are scheduled to play 3 ODIs and 2 T-20Is during the tour, there is no test.
Indications are that India may not go in with the first choice squad, and might give opportunities to some of the fringe players.
Hope the likes of Rishi Dhawan, Parwez Rasool and wicketkeeper batsmen Naman Ojha/Sanju Samson would get a look in. And Irfan Pathan if fit.......

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Post by msp83 on Sat Jun 27, 2015 8:33 pm

Zimbabwe ran the top sides close in many games, but played with the assumption that the games are of 35 overs, always managing to lose the plot after that with bat and ball. They've lost Brenden Taylor since then, but have some decent players. India are coming off a humiliating series loss to Bangladesh that has resulted in some serious discussions on the makeup and strategies of the team.

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Post by KP_fan on Sat Jun 27, 2015 9:28 pm

i think dhoni will be dropped but euphemistically "rested"
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Post by msp83 on Sun Jun 28, 2015 7:46 am

Think not just Dhoni, a few others including Virat Kohli who couldn't get a meaningful score for the last 3 months might be rested.

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Post by KP_fan on Mon Jun 29, 2015 9:00 am

rahane captain.....direct snub of Dhoni leaving him out of the team...and Patil speaks highly in press conference.

sandeep sharma, manish pandey, Bhajji, uthappa, Vijay , Kedar Jadhav, Manoj Tiwary in


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and a transparent Press conference  after declaring the selection OK
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Post by KP_fan on Mon Jun 29, 2015 9:06 am

Only missing link for me is Rasool who I would have liked to see ahead of Bhajji.

Patil says his name was discssed in place of Patel and the latter preferred
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Post by msp83 on Mon Jun 29, 2015 9:09 am

Dhoni snubbed and Kohli dropped for poor form is it?
Anyways, an interesting selection. Rohit Sharma and Dhawan not being picked would perhaps mean Rahane would move up the order and open? The one player I really look forward to is young Sandeep Sharma. Have high hopes of him. What the hell is Harbhajan doing there? He was pretty average in the Bangladesh test, and that in itself was a poor selection. No Jalaj, no Rasool, Ridiculous. And why the hell there is no specialist wicketkeeper? Are they going to make do with Uthappa or Rayudu? Pretty poor that from the selectors, Naman Ojha or Sanju Samson should have been in that squad........

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Post by msp83 on Mon Jun 29, 2015 9:12 am

It was also reported that Rahul Dravid wanted a strong side for the India A team, perhaps Rasool, Naman Ojha, Rishi Dhawan and a few others who could have played this ODI series would be in there.

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Post by KP_fan on Mon Jun 29, 2015 9:21 am

msp83 wrote:Dhoni snubbed and Kohli dropped for poor form is it?
Anyways, an interesting selection. Rohit Sharma and Dhawan not being picked would perhaps mean Rahane would move up the order and open? The one player I really look forward to is young Sandeep Sharma. Have high hopes of him. What the hell is Harbhajan doing there? He was pretty average in the Bangladesh test, and that in itself was a poor selection. No Jalaj, no Rasool, Ridiculous. And why the hell there is no specialist wicketkeeper? Are they going to make do with Uthappa or Rayudu? Pretty poor that from the selectors, Naman Ojha or Sanju Samson should have been in that squad........


(1) I think you got me wrong.
Dhoni dropped Rahane saying that the latter was unable to rotate strike and has to be more flexible.

Like many fans....who have seen blistering ODI & T20 innings from Rahane against highest quality attacks....patil and co. not only disagreed with Dhoni but refuted  that argument publicly and went a step further  to reinforce their measure of confidence in rahane and named him captain

(2) Dhoni was not dropped but merely rested, as is Kohli, Raina and Rohit
as an aside though.....the era of Dhoni making half a.ss-ed comments in Press conferences and getting away with it is over.

(3) There is a message for Kohli also....do not take your captaincy for granted.....there are others in the race . Pujara has been named the A- Captain

(4) Uthappa is seemingly the first choice WK in the eyes of selectors when they dump/retire / rest Dhoni....jadhav and Rayadu are back-ups.

because there is a perception that in the Dhoni / srini era he was unduly targeted to keep some of dhoni's preferred boys in.
All these "injustices" are being corrrected it seems.

hence manish pandey finds a place...as does Jadhav and Tiwary and Sandeep sharma

alll of whom many of us fans believe should have been in since a long time....but dhoni didn't look beyond Rohit, Mohit, Raina, Ishant......


Much more good and transparency then bad in Indian cricket now
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Post by KP_fan on Mon Jun 29, 2015 9:25 am

ODI squad: Ajinkya Rahane (capt), M Vijay, Ambati Rayudu, Manoj Tiwary, Kedar Jadhav, Robin Uthappa, Manish Pandey, Harbhajan Singh, Axar Patel, Karn Sharma, Dhawal Kulkarni, Stuart Binny, Bhuvneshwar Kumar, Mohit Sharma, Sandeep Sharma.

India A squad: KL Rahul, Abhinav Mukund, Cheteshwar Pujara (capt), Karun Nair, Shreyas Iyer, Naman Ojha, Vijay Shankar, Amit Mishra, Pragyan Ojha, Shardul Thakur, Varun Aaron, Abhimanyu Mithun, Umesh Yadav, Shreyas Gopal, B Aparajith


full squads....glad to see Rahul, Pujara, Nair, Gopal , shardul, Ojha and aparajith in A squad
almost as strong or arguably better than the Zim squad Smile
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Post by msp83 on Mon Jun 29, 2015 7:01 pm

Vijay Shankar in the A squad? Why? I mean Why really? What for? They discussed Rasool for the Zimbabwe squad and then opted to retain Akshar, and then they didn't even pick Rasool for the A squad!! They haven't picked Rishi Dhawan, yet has place for an inexperienced Vijay Shankar with a mediocre List A record! Well and truly ridiculous!

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Post by KP_fan on Mon Jun 29, 2015 8:59 pm

some comments on Monga's write-up
--monga doesn't get it...dhoni ain't being rested but rather phased out...that's the only bit that explains his "rest"

--no specialits WK....lame complain...all these guys keep wickets in limited over cricket..and it's a srattegy to have a WK who can bat.

--young....age is just a number ...if a guy can bat well...no reason to keep him out even if he is 35...look at Voges and Rogers and Harris and Hussey
the so called not young are about 30 odd

--fast bowlers....are in the A squad where they are more needed. whihc fast bowler has been left out

--Ravinder jadeja...CSK/ Srni lobby....same as above..finished..end of the road.
Dhoni's corrupt brigade coming to and end.

Re: Vijay shankar......I dunno who he is but they don't get 15 out of 15 right......even 12 or 13 is good OK
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Post by msp83 on Mon Jun 29, 2015 9:24 pm

Vijay Shankar is part of CSK!!

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Post by msp83 on Mon Jun 29, 2015 9:25 pm

On a serious note, KPF, what do you say about Rasool's and Rishi Dhawan's non-selection in either squads?

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Post by KP_fan on Mon Jun 29, 2015 10:40 pm

msp83 wrote:On a serious note, KPF, what do you say about Rasool's and Rishi Dhawan's non-selection in either squads?

Rasool will play...it's a matter of time
Rishi Dhwan plays in C divison of Ranji with Dharmsala his home ground so his pefromances get discounted.

look at the glass 85% full with the selections here
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Post by KP_fan on Thu Jul 02, 2015 9:04 pm

a good article

http://www.espncricinfo.com/magazine/content/story/893257.html

Dhoni and Kohli: a clash of ideologies?SIDHARTH MONGA 16 Share on Facebook Share on Twitter The personalities and philosophies of India's two captains could not be more different. That makes for a tricky situation, which India's cricket administration must handle well 8K shares
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As ODI captain, MS Dhoni, the senior player of the two, effectively has the smaller gig to Virat Kohli's Test do © AFP
When MS Dhoni shocked everybody on December 30 last year by announcing his Test retirement mid-series in Australia to concentrate on his limited-overs cricket and on taking the one-day team forward, he sent India into an uncharted era. To be pedantic, India split the captaincy for a while earlier too, but Dhoni played only 11 Tests under Anil Kumble before assuming full leadership, and both captains in that case were of largely similar temperament and philosophy. Also, Dhoni tasted immediate success in limited-overs cricket, and his Test captaincy was a natural progression.

This now is new. Dhoni is looking to extend his one-day career; he is going to play on at least until the World T20 in 2016. More importantly in the current scenario, the senior, more established captain has the lesser job and will be spending significantly less time with the team than Virat Kohli. Captains the world over relinquish the reins of ODI sides first. Misbah-ul-Haq plays Tests and Azhar Ali leads Pakistan in the one-dayers. Ditto Alastair Cook and Eoin Morgan. Not with Dhoni and Kohli. Getting the ODI captaincy first gives you a soft launch and you naturally progress to Tests, which are full of possibilities and thus demand more of a captain.

Even more importantly in India's case, the personnel for the teams are similar but the personality and philosophies of the leaders could not be more different. In his first Test as captain - as a stand-in at that - and in the frying pan that is playing in Australia, Kohli opted for pace, pace, pace, and a rookie legspinner ahead of a left-arm spinner many believe to be limited and an offspinner who had been tried without rewards in overseas Tests. The thinking was: fingerspinners don't get wickets in Australia, and Kohli didn't want his spinner to do a mere holding job. Another possible explanation was lack of patience, or trying to pull a rabbit out of the hat with not much to lose because he was supposed to have just one Test as captain back then.

Dhoni is more pragmatic. He has reason to be so. India's fast bowlers and spinners are not accurate away from home. They don't offer him the luxury to attack. Dhoni doesn't rage against the machine. He began to gradually ask less of them. Long before the BCCI sent that press release on December 30, 2014, Dhoni had already resigned as a bowlers' captain in Tests away from home. The Lord's Test, when he asked Ishant Sharma to bowl bouncers in the fourth innings, was one last flicker. In the next Test, hampered by Ishant's injury, Dhoni was back to getting Ravindra Jadeja to bowl 12 overs into the pads of left-hand batsmen with a 6-3 leg-side field in the second session of the first day. As if with Ishant injured, Dhoni was back to being jaded with the bowling.

It is possible Dhoni came to Bangladesh and felt the team had moved on. Maybe that leaves him vulnerable. This is a risk that comes with split captaincy
Kohli is young, he is fresh. He has not led India to away whitewashes. He is not scarred. Something about him says he will refuse to settle for less from his bowlers. He wants his fast bowlers fast. Not just in the first four balls of the over, not just in the first two sessions of the day, not just in the first innings of the Test, not just in the first Test of the series. He wants his spinners to go after wickets. He has said more than once that he is willing to risk a loss for a win. Even in Bangladesh he picked three of the fastest men available to him in the squad. At times Dhoni was happy with just Bhuvneshwar Kumar bowling off a long run.

There is no guarantee Kohli's methods will succeed. They will depend on the execution. And, don't worry, his bowlers will test his patience, but something about him suggests that when the bowlers revert to bowling one bad ball per over, he won't just shrug his shoulders and have fielders following the ball. He will demand more. That's what he said in Australia. "You need composure and character to go out there and say, 'I'm tired, but I need to take two wickets for my team, so I need to bowl at the same pace as my first spell.' That's where character counts. When you're tired and you're down and your team expects you to step up. That's something we've not been able to do in the last couple of years."

The success or failure of the new methods only time will tell, but Kohli does seem to have brought in a new philosophy and has jolted the team out of its comfort zone. It is no longer about just the processes. The new leadership says it is not happy with the right processes if they are not producing the right results. It is about time they began winning away Tests, it says. It is also at odds with the way the ODI captain thinks. There is potential for conflict and confusion, if there isn't some already. The selectors and the board - the latter still finding its feet - can't afford to just sit back and watch. They will need to keep a constant eye on how the team is responding to the two captains. The arrangement can easily go on for too long.

Personally, too, there is scope for unease for the captains. To Dhoni, suddenly the team could feel like a new place with new ideas. If you spend time out of it, it can be even more disorienting. You come back in, lead in a different format while trying to rediscover your own batting, lose a series to Bangladesh, and go against your own nature and first criticise a trusted, consistent and selfless batsman who is batting at an unfamiliar station, and then give the out-and-out fast bowlers a tongue-lashing in public.

Virat Kohli is very likely to be more demanding of his bowlers than MS Dhoni was
Virat Kohli is very likely to be more demanding of his bowlers than MS Dhoni was © AFP
Earlier this week the Daily Telegraph published a fascinating conversation between two of England's most celebrated captains, Michael Vaughan and Mike Brearley. They spoke from personal experience and from their experience of people. Talking of the upcoming Ashes, Brearley said it was an advantage that Cook hadn't played ODIs and was fresh, but he also pointed out that the England side had changed during the ODIs.

"It will be difficult for him [Cook] if things don't go well to start with, if he feels they have not got the same spirit in the team as they had in the one-day matches, and if he does not feel quite in charge," Brearley told Vaughan. "Nasser [Hussain] felt that with you when you took over for one-day matches."

Vaughan agreed. "That was in 2003," he said. "I did it differently for the one-day matches, Nasser came in for the Test matches and felt the team had moved on." The arrangement lasted only three Tests.

It is possible Dhoni came to Bangladesh and felt the team had moved on. Maybe that leaves him vulnerable. We don't know what he feels - he will never let us know - but this is a risk that comes with a split captaincy. He is edgier than ever, has got frustrated easily, and has expressed that frustration easily.

What Dhoni said about the fast bowlers - unprovoked - in the final post-match presentation in Bangladesh does not necessarily mean that he and Kohli are at each other's throats, or that Kohli can't wait to assume absolute control of the team, but it puts out in the open a clash of ideologies and philosophies. There is an obvious mutual respect there: Dhoni the captain backed Kohli when everybody wanted him dropped in Australia in 2011-12, and Kohli the batsman has won Dhoni many an ODI off his own bat. Yet they could be pulling the team in different directions.

Kohli himself is yet to win a Test. His ODI form hasn't been great. The selectors probably don't feel comfortable enough to hand the team over entirely to him. They probably want to see more of him as captain.

This is a delicate time for Indian cricket, and decisions to be made now are as important - if not more - as when the four big batsmen had to be phased out. The members of the team, some by making plain their intentions to play on until a certain time, some by not performing well in the series in Bangladesh, have not made it any easier for Sandeep Patil's selection committee.

Sidharth Monga is an assistant editor at ESPNcricinfo

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Post by msp83 on Mon Jul 06, 2015 7:56 pm

Karn Sharma is ruled out of the tour with a fractured finger. There is no replacement named, meaning India would go into the series with Harbhajan Singh and Akshar Patel as the only spinners

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Post by msp83 on Fri Jul 10, 2015 7:48 am

First ODI about to get underway. Zimbabwe won the toss and put India into bat.
Rahane
Vijay
Rayudu
Tiwary
Uthappa
Jadhav
Binny
Patel
Harbhajan
Bhuvneshwar
Kulkarni
That's the Indian 11. Disappointed to see Sandeep Sharma not picked. Should have played ahead of Bhuvneshwar who has been struggling of late. I am not really convinced by Dhawal Kulkarni either, despite his decent showing in Bangladesh. Sandeep is the future, a poor call from the management.
I also wish Manish Pandey gets a run in the side, think he's a much better player than Rayudu is.

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Post by msp83 on Fri Jul 10, 2015 7:57 am

Zimbabwe team
Raza
Sibanda
Masakadza
Chibhabha
Chigumbura
Williams
Mutumbami
Cremer
Tiripano
Vitori
Panyangara
There is a massive Taylor sized void in that Zimbabwe middle order as the former skipper is now plying his trade as a Kolpak player in English County cricket. And they are missing Tendai Chatara, the nippy seamer to injury.

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Post by msp83 on Fri Jul 10, 2015 8:39 am

Early struggles for India as the Zimbabwean opening bowlers are doing a good job. Brian Vitori accounted for Murali Vijay for 1, and Tinesh Panyangara is proving very hard to score of, giving away only 5 runs of his 4 overs.
India 25-1 after 8.

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Post by msp83 on Fri Jul 10, 2015 8:54 am

India plodding along at 3 an over, 36-1 after 11.

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Post by msp83 on Fri Jul 10, 2015 9:12 am

India 49-1 after 15. Batting without much intent. The ball did move in the early overs, but not a lot happening now, the Zimbabwean bowlers are bowling with discipline, and the Indian batsmen are unable to get going.

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Post by msp83 on Fri Jul 10, 2015 9:27 am

Just when he was about to get a move on, Ajinkya Rahane goes. Tiripano strikes for Zimbabwe as he finds Rahane's edge to be caught by Masakadza for 34 of 49. India 60-2 in the 18th over.
This is classic England like batting!, taking their time to build the innings for the eventual launch, losing wickets in between and the launch never happening!

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Post by msp83 on Fri Jul 10, 2015 9:28 am

As Morgan's England has shown intentions of changing track, India moving in quickly to fill the void!!!

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Post by msp83 on Fri Jul 10, 2015 9:51 am

India sinking fast here, 81-4 at the moment. Manoj Tiwary's comeback innings totaling just 2 runs as he was plumb LBW to Chibhabha, and Robin Uthappa ran himself out for a duck the next over.

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Post by msp83 on Fri Jul 10, 2015 11:25 am

Hundred from Rayudu and a half-century from Binny saving face for India. They are 237-5 after 48.

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Post by msp83 on Fri Jul 10, 2015 11:41 am

India finishe with 255-6. 124 not out for Rayudu, 77 for Binny.
Failures for Vijay, Tiwary, Uthappa and Jadhav, all coming into the side. In a away it represents the recent problems India are facing. Rahane, Rayudu and Binny are the regular/squad players and only they turned up on the day at least with semi decent performance. At the same time it has to be noted that even after batting almost all the overs, Rayudu wasn't even scoring at a run-a-ball, and Rahane ended up with yet another frustrating 30s. Binny did play well for his 77.....

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Post by msp83 on Fri Jul 10, 2015 11:41 am

His bowling though is mediocre when playing the top sides.

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Post by msp83 on Fri Jul 10, 2015 4:19 pm

A last ball thriller in the end, and its India who emerged on the right side of things. They win by 4 runs as Zimbabwe ended up with 251-7 in their 50 overs. They needed 10 of the last over but could only manage 5 of it as Bhuvneshwar Kumar held his nerve.
Skipper Elton Chigumbura, batting up the order held the innings together and remained unbeaten on 104, but it was yet again close but not close enough for Zimbabwe.
Bhuvneshwar didn't give much away not only in that last over but throughout his spell, finishing with 1-35. Stuart Binny, on top of his half-century, took 2-54 and bowled his entire quota of overs. Akshar Patel also chipped in with 2 wickets. Harbhajan Singh and Dhawal Kulkarni took a wicket each.
Hope to see Sandeep Sharma for Kulkarni for the next game. And Perhaps Manish Pandey for Jadhav or Tiwary.

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Post by KP_fan on Fri Jul 10, 2015 8:36 pm

New captain, new team, new coaches, head coach missing....boys and staff haven't been together at all as a team to gel, strategise.

They need a few games to start thinking and clicking as a unit......and thankfully they have a soft start in Zimbabwe as an opponent. Rayadu and Binny....did well to show they are apt replacements for the Raina and Jadeja slots.....if the captain and selectors trust them.

It's worth pondering why Rahane was elected as the captain by the selectors?

Off-course because they want to have a plan B for Kohli.....who seems a bit impetuous off he field and generally speaking its a good idea to have 2 captaincy candidates lest one falls out of form or doesn't deliver results........
and to avoid......situation of having to drag a captain losing 15-0 "because there is no alternative"

but Why Rahane as plan B?...he has not captained either a Ranji or IPL side before ? For instance Rohit did well leading IPL


I think the selectors want to groom a guy who is fit for all forms of the game....and Rahane is the only one who fits in that category....other than Kohli.

Ashwin to me was a good captaincy choice as he also fits the "fit for all format criteria"....but his ties to CSK/ closeness to Dhoni-gang makes him untouchable for considerations by the current group holding power in BCCI.

Ashwin would do well to distance himself from Dhoni-bhakti...and try and move to another franchise that is ready to have him as a captain.....and soon he might be in India reckoning .
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Post by KP_fan on Sun Jul 12, 2015 4:19 pm

after the humiliation in BD...India crushes Zim by 2-0

Inspite of a new captain, new coaches, B team, its a big vote of confidence for the selectors..... that they gelled as a team in as early as second game and played well.

back to old rules means 270ish are good scores.

Keeping bhai and his agenda candidates out as standby captain..... selectors ensured that everyone gets a fair chance.
and this avoids the situation of bhai side-lining the ne potential whom he saw a threat towards his favorites
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Post by subhranshu.kumar.5 on Sun Jul 12, 2015 6:46 pm

KP_fan wrote:New captain, new team, new coaches, head coach missing....boys and staff haven't been together at all as a team to gel, strategise.

They need a few games to start thinking and clicking as a unit......and thankfully they have a soft start in Zimbabwe as an opponent. Rayadu and Binny....did well to show they are apt replacements for the Raina and Jadeja slots.....if the captain and selectors trust them.

It's worth pondering why Rahane was elected as the captain by the selectors?

Off-course because they want to have a plan B for Kohli.....who seems a bit impetuous off he field and generally speaking its a good idea to have 2 captaincy candidates lest one falls out of form or doesn't deliver results........
and to avoid......situation of having to drag a captain losing 15-0 "because there is no alternative"

but Why Rahane as plan B?...he has not captained either a Ranji or IPL side before ? For instance Rohit did well leading IPL


I think the selectors want to groom a guy who is fit for all forms of the game....and Rahane is the only one who fits in that category....other than Kohli.

Ashwin to me was a good captaincy choice as he also fits the "fit for all format criteria"....but his ties to CSK/ closeness to Dhoni-gang makes him untouchable for considerations by the current group holding power in BCCI.

Ashwin would do well to distance himself from Dhoni-bhakti...and try and move to another franchise that is ready to have him as a captain.....and soon he might be in India reckoning .

I was also wondering, Why Rahane???? May be I think they want someone like Dhoni (cool and calm) and also has spirit of going on.

Yeah It can be a gamble but giving the team to Kohli, may be disastrous. His approach of risking a win, is courageous but he is expecting that from his pacers which India has failed to produce since decades. Lets see what is there in future, but on top of that India has done really well under Rahane winning the first two games.
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Post by KP_fan on Tue Jul 14, 2015 3:16 pm

anotehr heartening day for India and the selectors as young guns Jadhav and Pandey fire.

many a experts who have seen Jadhav in FC circuit have rated him as the best stroke player in the country.....while pandey has graduated from IPL to Ranji / FC as a solid young batsman.

--and rayadu, Binny have already firmed themselevs as favorites in the starting 11 even when we play full strnegth....with Vijay and Bhajji having a good series right up there in the reckoning.

unfortunately each time these potential talent were brought into the squad or attempted to be brought in...bhai in his preservation for Rohit, raina, Ishant, jadeja, ashwin, Dhawan.....condemned them to the sidelines.

Even Rahane for so long was kept out of even tests.

--there is talent beyond bhai's circle and uncorrputed fresher minds is proven.

--Uthappa will rue the missed opportunity....he didn't look a part and if samson gets going in T20s return will be difficult for Uthappa.
Tiwary has a lot of credit in the bag on the back fo 100s and 50s and 5'fors he had when he last played for India

--I am hoping that Mumbai's Surya prakash yadav gets a go ...he is another electrifying talent and then there is Karun nair also.

--and while bhai's boys will still get and a chance and should, nevertheless they will not be guaranteed of a place and their seats not preserved any more...and many will be breathing down their necks.
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Post by msp83 on Wed Jul 15, 2015 8:26 pm

Very happy to see Manish Pandey grabbing his only opportunity in the series. Though he didn't go on to 3 figures, his innings looked a lot more classier than that of Jadhav. But Jadhav can play shots, so should be kept in the frame despite he not looking very solid as such. Stuart Binny also made the opportunity count. Now that the rules have been made a little bit more sensible, perhaps if Binny improves his bowling a bit more, he can come into the side for Jadeja at 7? Binny is a much better batter........ Uthappa didn't take his chance, same goes for Manoj tiwary.
Very disappointed that young Sandeep Sharma didn't get a game, even after they won the series after the 2nd game. What did they learn by playing Bhuvneshwar Kumar in all the 3 games? Hopefully the selectors will stop the Harbhajan experiment, its time to say thank you, and move on. Think they should leave Murali Vijay alone for test cricket.

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Post by KP_fan on Thu Jul 16, 2015 9:11 am

Bhajji bowled well...so why should they look beyond him...he has justified hi selection in the BD solo test as well as the ODis.

Why should Vijay be left to test only....when he can be an ODI opener better than Rohit and Dhawan ....and he wants to paly ODIs
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Post by msp83 on Thu Jul 16, 2015 9:24 pm

Harbhajan was rather inconsistent in the Bangladesh test and didn't offer anything special in the Zimbabwe ODIs. He and Akshar were just about OK against not the greatest ever batting lineup in the world, or for that matter Zimbabwe ever produced!

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Post by ShankyCricket on Fri Jul 17, 2015 6:09 am

I see everyone's favourite love child Rahane has yet again escaped any sort of criticism despite another poor ODI series, this time against "proper minnows" (Bangladesh aren't, any longer, in ODIs) in his favourite opening slot.

Of course, in KP_fan's cosy little world, Rahane would be appointed as the Prime Minister of India and consistent ODI performers like Rohit and Raina be condemned to life imprisonment for being close to "bhai". Thankfully, for Kp_f there aren't enough Indian fans on here (msp prob doesn't have the patience) to rubbish his idiotic theories, like England fans do when he speaks bs about England.

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Post by KP_fan on Fri Jul 17, 2015 9:35 am

msp83 wrote:Harbhajan was rather inconsistent in the Bangladesh test and didn't offer anything special in the Zimbabwe ODIs. He and Akshar were just about OK against not the greatest ever batting lineup in the world, or for that matter Zimbabwe ever produced!

Bhajji picked wickets and was economical in ODIs against Zim......better than Axar.
He contributed his bit to the match winning efforts.
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Post by KP_fan on Fri Jul 17, 2015 9:51 am

ShankyCricket wrote:I see everyone's favourite love child Rahane has yet again escaped any sort of criticism despite another poor ODI series, this time against "proper minnows" (Bangladesh aren't, any longer, in ODIs) in his favourite opening slot.

Of course, in KP_fan's cosy little world, Rahane would be appointed as the Prime Minister of India and consistent ODI performers like Rohit and Raina be condemned to life imprisonment for being close to "bhai". Thankfully, for Kp_f there aren't enough Indian fans on here (msp prob doesn't have the patience) to rubbish his idiotic theories, like England fans do when he speaks bs about England.

in your premise Rahane is under trial in every series......

In my premise....he is one of Indian's two safest and consistent all format batsman.....the other being Kohli....and both have ample of credit in their bags...

Selectors are aligned with my Premise.

Re: Rohit, Raina , Dhawan etal who had a guaranteed untouchable run under Dhoni........will now need to perform to hold their places...an compete with likes of Rayadu, Pandey, Jadhav for positions on the playing 11.

keeps every one honest
and good for Indian cricket,.

Bhai's evil empire has fallen Very Happy
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Post by ShankyCricket on Fri Jul 17, 2015 12:58 pm

Yep, with an ODI average of 30 and SR in the 70s.

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Post by KP_fan on Fri Jul 17, 2015 1:16 pm

ShankyCricket wrote:Yep, with an ODI average of 30 and SR in the 70s.

it is hard to argue with some one who takes a 3 year long in/ out/ dumped "evolution phase" of an emerging cricketer and treats it like it was the "final potential" of that cricketer.

Given how Rahane has scored top runs against good quality opponents at a decent rate on difficult pitches in all formats........i believe even in ODis he will reach and hold on to an 40+ average by the time he has played another 50 to 60 games.
And while he may not be a 100%+ SR...he will be a decent close to 80% SR.

And that's a good "innings builder" profile in an ODI and ever team need about 2 to 3 such innings builder amongst their 7 to 8 batsmen.

again....selectors have the same view of Rahane as I have
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Post by KP_fan on Fri Jul 17, 2015 2:47 pm

today in the T20...as in the ODI series...Bhajji with his slow loopy, flighted bowling and variations has been the hardest to get away by the Zim batsmen.....after Bhuvi.

He's been quite good actually

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Post by msp83 on Sat Jul 18, 2015 8:19 pm

Harbhajan went at over 7 an over, Akshar was going at just above 4 an over. Harbhajan certainly was hard to get away!

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Post by KP_fan on Sat Jul 18, 2015 9:28 pm

msp83 wrote:Harbhajan went at over 7 an over, Akshar was going at just above 4 an over. Harbhajan certainly was hard to get away!

did you watch ?

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