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Post by Azabache on Wed 01 Jul 2015, 3:21 pm

First topic message reminder :

1st - A. Contador      fully "prepared", just too good and combative on the climbs, TT superb
2nd - C. Froome        wonderful tryer, no disgrace
3rd - N. Quintana      just found wanting
4th - V. Nibali           not quite right

But could all pass to a new generation!

Cavendish wins only a couple of stages (beaten by a couple of beasts always)

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Re: Tour de France 2015 Thread

Post by Hammersmith harrier on Thu 23 Jul 2015, 6:35 pm

LiamB wrote:I agree on the star performers just ambling through many of the stages & just performing heroically on the mountain top finishes, that give them the time in hand to just relax elsewhere. Not sure on the radio's, sometimes that communication is key in helping develop a race & strategy for teams & riders. Without it, there is also a safety risk, a race might be abandoned mid way or a rider might need warning of an approaching risk it he himself might need to call for emergency aid.

It shouldn't be key in developing a race strategy for teams that's the whole reason they should scrap team orders over the radio. One of the great moments in tour history was seeing Stephen Roche going hell for leather chasing down Delgado and having no idea how much time he had to make up. We know longer have this and riders are aware of far too much, team strategy stays the same throughout the race but epic solo breakaways have a far greater chance of coming off.

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Post by Guest on Fri 24 Jul 2015, 2:44 pm

whocares wrote:
John wrote:Just thrown £10 on Rolland, see what happens.

good shout , close but no cigar

Maybe second time lucky today, he's gone for the long one has my Pierre. Got him at 18/1 this morning, not sure he will hold on, when Quintana attacks.

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Post by Guest on Fri 24 Jul 2015, 2:49 pm

Geraint Thomas dropped. Rolland looks good, but Uran is now counter attacking to join up with Rolland. Can't be long before Quintana goes for it.

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Post by Big on Fri 24 Jul 2015, 2:55 pm

LiamB wrote:Geraint Thomas dropped. Rolland looks good, but Uran is now counter attacking to join up with Rolland. Can't be long before Quintana goes for it.

Yep, this isn't the 'easy' job I thought it was going to be for Froome! Quintana can just let Nibali/Contador do the attacking and Froome do the chasing for now, may want to leave it a bit longer until everyone is even more tired. Hit them then when he has best chance of doing damage.

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Post by whocares on Fri 24 Jul 2015, 3:08 pm

mmm looks like froome is human after all.

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly on Fri 24 Jul 2015, 3:08 pm

BUT HE MUST BE DOPING HE'S DOING WELL
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Post by whocares on Fri 24 Jul 2015, 3:10 pm

haha it was only a bike issue that made him lose some ground but Nibali used this to attack

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Post by Guest on Fri 24 Jul 2015, 3:10 pm

He just unclipped, he's back with Quintana. Certainly nervous times. nibali has attacked & Rolland has two minutes gap with 55km, no chance of holding on

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Post by LuvSports! on Fri 24 Jul 2015, 3:12 pm

Froome had a mechanical? 

Nibali 25+ seconds ahead.

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Post by LuvSports! on Fri 24 Jul 2015, 3:12 pm

Olly wrote:BUT HE MUST BE DOPING HE'S DOING WELL

You;re like a Rafalita.

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Post by Guest on Fri 24 Jul 2015, 3:13 pm

He just unclipped, nothing serious for Froome.

Pierre doesn't have a two minute lead anymore, Nibali has it down to 1 min 20, guess they will link up after the descent.

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Post by whocares on Fri 24 Jul 2015, 3:14 pm

Nibali is not really a contender anymore for the yellow jersey.

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Post by Guest on Fri 24 Jul 2015, 3:21 pm

John wrote:Pierre doesn't have a two minute lead anymore, Nibali has it down to 1 min 20, guess they will link up after the descent.

Yep, Rolland looks like he will fail again today. Nibali has cut it down to 45 seconds

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Post by Guest on Fri 24 Jul 2015, 3:31 pm

Don't underestimate my Pierre, holding Nibali at 59 secs. C'mon Rolland!!!!

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Post by Guest on Fri 24 Jul 2015, 3:43 pm

the best thing Rolland could do is to wait for Nibali & go with him on the descent. Gap down to 25 secs. Movistar/peloton at 2mins

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Post by LuvSports! on Fri 24 Jul 2015, 3:45 pm

Less than ten seconds now. Your Pierre is in a bit of Sharkey bother.

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Post by LuvSports! on Fri 24 Jul 2015, 4:10 pm

Nibali attacks!

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Post by Guest on Fri 24 Jul 2015, 4:12 pm

It's all over for my Pierre

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Post by Guest on Fri 24 Jul 2015, 4:34 pm

Too late for an attack now, terrain all flat from here on in. Hardly surprising, nothing left in froome's rivals. If anything Froome should just attack here at the end just to finish this all off & put everyone out of their misery

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Post by LuvSports! on Fri 24 Jul 2015, 4:39 pm

Spoke too soon.

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Re: Tour de France 2015 Thread

Post by Big on Fri 24 Jul 2015, 4:42 pm

Yep, I did wonder if/when it was going to come - but this is fantastic!

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Post by LuvSports! on Fri 24 Jul 2015, 4:43 pm

Vamos Nairo! Gain some time to make it interesting for 2mo!

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Post by Guest on Fri 24 Jul 2015, 4:44 pm

For this to get interesting he needs at least to take a minute. Nothing exciting about 15 seconds

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Post by Lowlandbrit on Fri 24 Jul 2015, 4:51 pm

Great ride by Nibali. Quintana does just about enough to make it interesting, but you have to wonder if he couldn't have gone earlier and got more.

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Post by LuvSports! on Fri 24 Jul 2015, 4:54 pm

I don't know how much more he had.

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Re: Tour de France 2015 Thread

Post by Guest on Fri 24 Jul 2015, 4:54 pm

2.38 deficit to Froome?

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Post by LuvSports! on Fri 24 Jul 2015, 5:00 pm

1.GBRFROOME Christopher31TEAM SKY78h 37' 34'' 
2.COLQUINTANA ROJAS Nairo Alexander51MOVISTAR TEAM78h 40' 12''+ 02' 38''
3.ESPVALVERDE BELMONTE Alejandro59MOVISTAR TEAM78h 42' 59''+ 05' 25''
4.ITANIBALI Vincenzo1ASTANA PRO TEAM78h 44' 18''+ 06' 44''
5.ESPCONTADOR Alberto41TINKOFF-SAXO78h 45' 30''+ 07' 56''
6.NEDGESINK Robert131TEAM LOTTO NL - JUMBO78h 46' 29''+ 08' 55''
7.SUIFRANK Mathias181IAM CYCLING78h 50' 13''+ 12' 39''
8.NEDMOLLEMA Bauke141TREK FACTORY RACING78h 50' 56''+ 13' 22''
9.FRABARDET Romain12AG2R LA MONDIALE78h 51' 42''+ 14' 08''
10.FRAROLLAND Pierre121TEAM EUROPCAR78h 55' 01''+ 17' 27''

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Re: Tour de France 2015 Thread

Post by Mad for Chelsea on Fri 24 Jul 2015, 5:03 pm

so Froome makes up a minute over the last 6 km of a climb or so, Quintana makes up 30 secs over slightly less than 4km. Froome must be doping, right? Or he deliberately let Quintana gain some time to make it seem less suspicious?

Let's be honest, most of the gap to Quintana came before they ever made the mountains, on the flat (looking increasinly stupid from Movistar to get caught out on a stage where everyone knew there was a risk of cross-winds) and TTT.

Set for an interesting day tomorrow, but 2:38 is still a heck of a huge gap to make back, would need Froome to have an off-day IMO.

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Post by LuvSports! on Fri 24 Jul 2015, 5:06 pm

I think Porte and Thomas will be there for him tmo for a longer time. 
If he is isolated he could lose time but can't see it being much.

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Re: Tour de France 2015 Thread

Post by LuvSports! on Fri 24 Jul 2015, 5:14 pm

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Post by CaledonianCraig on Fri 24 Jul 2015, 5:14 pm

Solid ride by Froome to lose a small part of his lead. Great ride by Nibali though and by Rolland.
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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly on Fri 24 Jul 2015, 5:24 pm

Mad for Chelsea wrote:so Froome makes up a minute over the last 6 km of a climb or so, Quintana makes up 30 secs over slightly less than 4km. Froome must be doping, right? Or he deliberately let Quintana gain some time to make it seem less suspicious?

Let's be honest, most of the gap to Quintana came before they ever made the mountains, on the flat (looking increasinly stupid from Movistar to get caught out on a stage where everyone knew there was a risk of cross-winds) and TTT.

Set for an interesting day tomorrow, but 2:38 is still a heck of a huge gap to make back, would need Froome to have an off-day IMO.

Well purely by the fact he's beaten froome he must be doping MFC that's how it works in cycling.....

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Post by LuvSports! on Fri 24 Jul 2015, 5:37 pm

Did you see Nairo getting the fastest ever time on the climb?

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Post by LuvSports! on Fri 24 Jul 2015, 5:39 pm

Faster than a certain Rasmussen...

Let's celebrate everyone, each and every rider in this tdf is clean! Yay let's hug a tree.

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Post by Hammersmith harrier on Fri 24 Jul 2015, 6:01 pm

Without any form of proof then yes they are all clean.

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Post by LuvSports! on Fri 24 Jul 2015, 6:02 pm

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Post by Lowlandbrit on Fri 24 Jul 2015, 6:14 pm

LuvSports! wrote:Faster than a certain Rasmussen...
Who wasn't that fast on that particular climb. Fastest before today was Sastre, who he beat by about 20 seconds:

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Post by Hammersmith harrier on Fri 24 Jul 2015, 6:32 pm

Sastre, Evans and Wiggins have at no point been implicated in any doping scandals so all three of them must have been doping despite absolutely no evidence to suggest so.

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly on Fri 24 Jul 2015, 6:52 pm

Hammersmith harrier wrote:Sastre, Evans and Wiggins have at no point been implicated in any doping scandals so all three of them must have been doping despite absolutely no evidence to suggest so.

I agree. Winning means you're doping so these guys should be struck from the record books
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Post by LuvSports! on Fri 24 Jul 2015, 6:58 pm

Neither did Big Mig...

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Post by Hammersmith harrier on Fri 24 Jul 2015, 7:02 pm

It goes without saying that Indurain was unique, unparalleled physiology, if everyone is doping why is it an issue?

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Post by LuvSports! on Sat 25 Jul 2015, 2:28 am

Have you ever thought any cyclist was doped?

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Post by Hammersmith harrier on Sat 25 Jul 2015, 12:02 pm

It's not something I think about, if you're forever concerned about who's doping you'll never enjoy what you're watching, until proven guilty everyone is innocent in my eyes.

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Post by CaledonianCraig on Sat 25 Jul 2015, 12:18 pm

Froome could wrap up the win today but it will be a classic stage up Alpes D'Huez.
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Post by LuvSports! on Sat 25 Jul 2015, 12:51 pm

Hammersmith harrier wrote:It's not something I think about, if you're forever concerned about who's doping you'll never enjoy what you're watching, until proven guilty everyone is innocent in my eyes.

Well that is your view. I love the sport and am going into the sports journo industry despite what I believe to be a pervasive doping culture across a vast array of sports.
I still appreciate they are insanely talented athletes but sport is a business and it is about winning at all costs.

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Post by LuvSports! on Sat 25 Jul 2015, 12:51 pm

CaledonianCraig wrote:Froome could wrap up the win today but it will be a classic stage up Alpes D'Huez.

He will wrap it up. Nobody does anything on the last stage. No way he loses 2min 38.

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Post by LuvSports! on Sat 25 Jul 2015, 1:59 pm

QUINTANA GOES!

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Post by CaledonianCraig on Sat 25 Jul 2015, 2:25 pm

LuvSports! wrote:QUINTANA GOES!

And nothing comes of it. The move covered by Froome alone and Team Sky regroup and all are back in the peloton.
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Post by LuvSports! on Sat 25 Jul 2015, 2:31 pm

Haha, i know. I am watching.

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Post by CaledonianCraig on Sat 25 Jul 2015, 2:40 pm

LuvSports! wrote:Haha, i know. I am watching.

Like I knew Quintana had gone as well for the same reason. Wink Hug
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