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Post by KP_fan on Wed 22 Jul 2015, 9:51 am

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It's a high quality series and the Indian side...here... batting and spin department could well be a full strength test side on it's own.
The Aussie side matching the strength of Indians, with high quality pacers.

India bats first and Pujara misses a great opportunity to put a very big total and seal a spot for himself.

KL Rahul going strong......I would so love him to make it big and hold on to his test spot...he is a "Lambi race ka Ghoda"


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Post by KP_fan on Sat 08 Aug 2015, 8:43 am

well we will find out soon...I think India will lose the first test...and come back to win one in the series.....one will fall prey to a rain hit draw
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Post by msp83 on Sat 08 Aug 2015, 9:31 pm

Sri Lanka's batting is rather week. Sanga and Mathews are the only world class batsmen in their lineup.
But then our bowling lineup isn't the strongest going around and some of the youngsters in the Lankan camp would be looking to establish themselves at the top.......
Interesting to note that Cheteshwar Pujara, while retiring out on 31 in the 2nd innings, totaled more runs in that innings alone, than the match aggregate of skipper's blue eyed new number 3. Will it be too late before Kohli realizes things?
Pujara has been getting all these starts, whether that is the A game or here, but he would need a couple of real big scores to force his way back in as Kohli at the moment is obsessed with making Rohit India's answer to Bradman!

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Post by KP_fan on Sat 08 Aug 2015, 10:23 pm

Well Rohit's rope is limited to one game if he flops here

and if he does get 30s here...he will get one more game....in whihc he will have to deliver big 50s or 100s....he is at the end of his rope.

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Post by KP_fan on Sun 09 Aug 2015, 8:20 am

Quinton De Kock gets a hundred.....but SA barely touching 250
he reserves his runs for India.

Rishi Dhwan gets a 4-for and Karn bowled a tight spell
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Post by msp83 on Sun 09 Aug 2015, 9:11 am

Hope Rishi Dhawan works on his pace a bit more and hope the national selectors actually give him an opening at the top level. Stuart Binny is a decent hitter who can bowl a bit, he's no all-rounder....... Dhawan is the real deal, the challenge is to take his game to the next level. Soneone needs to tell him that with his physique, he can be a good fast bowler.......

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Post by msp83 on Sun 09 Aug 2015, 9:18 am

And he has to work on his big hitting capabilities. In domestic cricket he's a fast scoring batsman, a busy player, but when I've watched him on TV, he has come across as a busy batsman without enough big hits....... Needs to work on those aspects, there is no other genuine seam bowling all-rounder in the domestic seen other than Dhawan, bats in the top 6 regularly and takes the new ball, the leading bowler for his side.
Irfan Pathan is the only other option, but he hasn't had a half-decent fitness record in recent times. But the selectors who brought back Harbhajan for no good reason can't do a lot worse than giving Irfan an opening, that if he's fit enough to take the field.......

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Post by KP_fan on Sun 09 Aug 2015, 6:09 pm

Dhawan plays in C-division and before that Plate div.......that is one discount factor on his performance.

that his home base in HP, Dharmsala ultra seaming conditions, discounts his wickets.

that Jadeja is a triple centurion and Axar is an allrounder, but cannot put bat to ball against quality pace / seam......means take these Ranji allrounder's batting with a pinch of salt
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Post by KP_fan on Sun 09 Aug 2015, 6:10 pm

Mayank agarwal, and Chand scored heavy and got a Bonus win
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Post by msp83 on Sun 09 Aug 2015, 8:40 pm

Dhawan's runs have come at the very same Dharamshala ground where there is a lively track and he averages 40 in FC cricket. And he has taken wickets elsewhere as well, as he has been leading the attack along with Vikramjit Malik even when HP play their away games.
And it is not that we have too many choices in the all-rounder department to come unstuck on issues like the ground the player plays his home games in.
And we should not forget that while some people consider Akshar Patel an all-rounder, his FC top score is only 69, and he has played only 11 games. He was fasttracked into the national side far too quickly, without him really developing his batting or bowling skills at the domestic level, all because he had a good IPL ones!! Also that while Jadeja hasn't really made runs at test level, he still has an average above 30 in ODI cricket and has scored almost 2000 runs in the format.......
We don't have a Kapil Dev or Vinu Mankad at the moment, will have to make the best use of the available resources.
Perhaps Baba Aparajith will take his bowling more seriously and continue to develop his batting, perhaps Shreyas Gopal will attain greater consistency with bat and ball and go on to become that all-rounder India need so badly. But they both aren't there yet, they both are spin bowling 'all-rounders'. The only proper seam bowling all-rounder we have is Rishi Dhawan, and I think the selectors are really missing something as they really don't recognize his talent.......

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Post by KP_fan on Sun 09 Aug 2015, 10:12 pm

msp83 wrote:Dhawan's runs have come at the very same Dharamshala ground where there is a lively track and he averages 40 in FC cricket.

I dunno really if his big runs have come at Dharamsala or against Vidrbha in Nagpur ( for example )...I mean against lower C div sides on patta pitches in HP's away games

And he has taken wickets elsewhere as well, as he has been leading the attack along with Vikramjit Malik even when HP play their away games.

I have followed his wickets and those have come at seam friendly centers...if there is a breakdown it will help

And it is not that we have too many choices in the all-rounder department to come unstuck on issues like the ground the player plays his home games in.


And we should not forget that while some people consider Akshar Patel an all-rounder, his FC top score is only 69, and he has played only 11 games. He was fasttracked into the national side far too quickly, without him really developing his batting or bowling skills at the domestic level, all because he had a good IPL ones!! Also that while Jadeja hasn't really made runs at test level, he still has an average above 30 in ODI cricket and has scored almost 2000 runs in the format.......
We don't have a Kapil Dev or Vinu Mankad at the moment, will have to make the best use of the available resources.
Perhaps Baba Aparajith will take his bowling more seriously and continue to develop his batting, perhaps Shreyas Gopal will attain greater consistency with bat and ball and go on to become that all-rounder India need so badly. But they both aren't there yet, they both are spin bowling 'all-rounders'.


The only proper seam bowling all-rounder we have is Rishi Dhawan, and I think the selectors are really missing something as they really don't recognize his talent.......

we have seen jadeja and axar as allorunders....specifically Jadeja with 3 triple centuries...can't put bat to ball vs searmers, axar is worst then Yadav as a batsman at the international level.
the best seam bowling allrounder we have is Bhuvi......
folowed by Binny
Dhawan I wish turns out to be an allrounder...but have to reserve the judgement until we see him a bot more


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Post by KP_fan on Mon 10 Aug 2015, 8:27 am

Vijay's hamstring has not healed.....so Rahul will play
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Post by KP_fan on Mon 10 Aug 2015, 12:02 pm

http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci/content/video_audio/908239.html

shastri and Kohli have taken a positive stand.....right or wrong, time will tell. We need to give them time with their startegy now.

Vijay not playing means Rahul will play and if he scores it will be hard to drop him, esepcially if Rohit has not scored
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Post by msp83 on Mon 10 Aug 2015, 1:41 pm

Hope Rahul gets a big one. But the loss of the most consistent batsman over the last 2 years is a massive blow, particularly as Kohli is stubborn on picking the no-hoper at 3.
Rohit getting pass 10 will be the greatest calamity that can happen to India from this game, even a loss won't be that damaging.......
KPF, doesn't it sound like a conspiracy from Kohli that Vijay is being benched for his Delhi mate Shikhar Dhawan!?

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Post by KP_fan on Mon 10 Aug 2015, 1:46 pm

msp83 wrote:Hope Rahul gets a big one. But the loss of the most consistent batsman over the last 2 years is a massive blow, particularly as Kohli is stubborn on picking the no-hoper at 3.
Rohit getting pass 10 will be the greatest calamity that can happen to India from this game, even a loss won't be that damaging.......
KPF, doesn't it sound like a conspiracy from Kohli that Vijay is being benched for his Delhi mate Shikhar Dhawan!?

that conspiracy can work if Shastri/ BCCI/ selectors all a part of it......no buddy that's not the case.....that Dhoni/ Srini era of evil nexus is over....
we will see a more transparent Indian team game after game

meanwhile Ind A loses to Aus A again.....

Chand is technically incompetent to play pace last when I saw him....his feet doesn't move well and his reflexes are a bit slow when the speed of bowling is high....his 90 of last game notwithstanding.

temperament, street smartness etc are excellent....but he doesn't make the cut as a batsman in first place.

Mayank Agarwal will get visibility after his two good knocks in a row

Rishi finally got a chance and delivered with the ball and today with the bat......although he gets to bat at No.9 below Axar and Karn is hard to understand.
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Post by msp83 on Mon 10 Aug 2015, 2:06 pm

With Rohit at 3 and Saha at 6, this batting lineup has the makings of a big disaster about unless Kohli or Rahane gets big scores. Dhawan is hit or miss, Rahul is finding his way at the top level. Rohit is useless, Saha can't bat and his keeping is overrated.
If Kohli sees Ashwin as the all-rounder we need, he should be brave enough to bat him at 6 and Saha at 7. Ashwin has better credentials to bat at 6 than Saha does.......

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Post by msp83 on Mon 10 Aug 2015, 2:10 pm

As for the conspiracy KPF, perhaps Shastri is pushing for the Mumbai no-hoper and in exchange letting Kohli have his way with the Delhi club!? And the selectors join in as Roger's son makes the cut as an all-rounder though he's mediocre with the ball and average with the bat!!?

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Post by msp83 on Mon 10 Aug 2015, 2:18 pm

Why do they play Karn Sharma in the first place!? Leave alone him batting above the likes of Rishi Dhawan! Another IPL wonder with a mediocre record in domestic cricket otherwise. After playing 38 FC games, this guy who was selected as India's led spinner in overseas test, doesn't even average 2 wickets per game!!!
And instead of trying to groom the likes of youngsters Shreyas Gopal and Parwez Rasool, they are wasting a place in the A team for a 28 year old.......

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Post by KP_fan on Mon 10 Aug 2015, 8:10 pm

easy msp....if those selected do not perform and they persist..you can get aggrived.
let the new era a chance...with no malice.

selectors in new era have done many positive moves and very quickly...their actions have been quite fair:OK:
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Post by msp83 on Mon 10 Aug 2015, 8:18 pm

Selectors in new era have done wonderful things like recalling a 34 year old yesterday's hero to the test squad because he had a few decent IPL games. They persist with another IPL wonder who otherwise is a no-hoper as a legspinner both in the national and A sides. The selectors and team management consider Rohit Sharma as the face of the new era though he's almost 10 years old in international cricket and has failed for most of that period.
Fair job indeed!
Think all that these clowns do is to watch some IPL games and nothing else. Doesn't seem that they even look at the domestic stats, forget watching some games.......

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Post by KP_fan on Mon 10 Aug 2015, 9:22 pm

a lot of people are agreeing with the selectors and some even applauding them ........me included Very Happy
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Post by msp83 on Tue 11 Aug 2015, 3:22 pm

First test to get underway tomorrow.
Cricinfo speculates that India will be playing 3 seamers and 2 spinners and the 3 seamers are likely to be Ishant, Yadav and Aaron and Ashwin and Harbhajan in charge of the spin department.
With Kohli spupidly intent on playing Rohit Sharma, 1 batting slot is already wasted. Saha bats 2 positions too high at 6. Then if they go in with 3 spinners on a track that has taken turn historically, and if the 3 seamers are not good enough to hold a bat, that will be taking stubbornness to the next level of foolishness.
Hopefully Kohli will restrain himself and limit the nonsense to Rohit. If he wants only 2 spinners, then play only 4 bowlers as the 3rd seamer will be wasted anyways on that track. Thus he can play Pujara at 3, bump Rohit down to 6 and prevent Saha from being exposed at 6. Or if he really wants the 5 bowlers, then play the 3 spinners, Ashwin, Mishra and Harbhajan. Ashwin averages close to 40 in test cricket and has a decent technique and can bat 6 at a pinch. Mishra can bat properly if he applys himself and Harbhajan is a more than capable hitter. Think Bhuvneshwar who can be effective with the new ball in subcontinent conditions and Ishant should be the seamers. Would have preferred Shami over Ishant. Besides the fact that Shami is still not fit, despite his overall pathetic record, Ishant has been doing just about alright in tests in away series of late. Bhuvneshwar can bat as well.

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Post by kingraf on Wed 12 Aug 2015, 7:40 am

Sri Lanka seem to have forgotten how to cricket. Game over as a contest
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Post by kingraf on Wed 12 Aug 2015, 11:40 am

Maybe not. Lanka bowled out for 183, but have India at 46/2, given India's long list of non-specialist batsmen (I believe Rahane is the last specialist?) Lanka could go bang-bang-bang-bang-bang
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Post by KP_fan on Wed 12 Aug 2015, 1:01 pm

--well when you bowl out a side for 180 on D1 after they won the toss on a non seaming pitch in the subcotinent....it's gotta to be your day
But it's not an easy pitch to score runs on....very slow.
so about 270 would have been a par score.

--the much talked about intent/ aggression made the difference ?.....and aaron was selected purely on that intent over Bhuvi...although coaches have to work on Aaron to run into "controlled aggression"....means he does not have license to give away runs freely like he does.....
not does he have license to bowl slower....to be controlled, he had a catch dropped of him in slips.....so not bad show in the end.

---Ashwin....well in the last 3 tests, he has been aiming to pick wicktes , off-stump line, big spin....flight and looked very potent.
Mishra was at looking threatening towards the end...when his Googly got going......a lot of Zipp...with second inning rough he will be a handful. I didn't see Bhajji when he was bowling.

--Lankan seamers were better than Indians...because they pitched up and got the ball to seam late...
Rohit looked horrible...playing across the line feet stuck to the crease.
He looked so bad.....that unless he cracks a really big one next inning he is done.

--Dhawan.....looks far more dominant in these subcontinental conditions.....and reaffirmed that he will stay as an opener.
Rahul thouhg needs to make his second inning count and be in contention for No3 slot.

India thouhg will try to bat BIG and hope not need to play a second inning.

Kohli has looked in great touch....all these practise innings in side game and A game has helped him get in groove. Most imporant is his forward defense...decisive, full stretch forward, completely straight batted....tendulkarsque. Kohli has upped his game.

--Kushala the lankan offie runs side on and has an action like a javelin thrower in his last few delivery stride when throwing the javelin( although Kaushal doesn't throw).....
he has one great delivery that turns big and sharp...when he gets it right.....I have seen such bowlers at club levels....one good delivery ,one trick ponies...no variations, and lacks consistency....hard to see him suceed over a period of time...without variations
hard to see him develop variations....with this action.

--Herath ain't the same bowlers he was some years back when I saw him closely...lost his potency.

Lanka not appearing fully awake.....althouhg they have had a test series with Pak at home and Indians are the ones coming from cold
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Post by msp83 on Wed 12 Aug 2015, 1:59 pm

All in all, an excellent day for India in the end. Watched in spells, not all, but Ashwin was absolutely brilliant. Mishra took his time coming back to top level cricket, but if he gets into rhythm, can be Ashwin's able deputy. Ishant was rapid in the first spell and seems to have developed a bit of intelligence as a bowler, using the short ball to decent effect. With his physique, even if he generates decent and not outright pace, his short ball can be a test for a batsman when used strategically.
Dhawan continues to make a case for himself in subcontinent conditions. he needs to convert this into a big one though, as Rahul is a quality player and Vijay India's most consistent batsman in tests over the last 2 years would surely take his place back. Kohli has also batted well, but again, with the 4 batsman+Rohit+Saha lineup, he has to make it into a massive one to lead his side into a strong position.
Now on to the disappointments. In the seam bowling department, Kohli wasn't foolish enough to go in with 3 seamers, but I would have gone for Kumar over Aaron. Aaron and Yadav are bowlers I would continue to invest in, but then they would need more polishing to play subcontinent tests. Between the 2 I would have gone for Yadav who at his best can reverse the ball besides generating pace. Aaron was unlucky to have a catch dropped of his bowling but the wicket he got wasn't a legitimate catch either as it came off the armguard rather than the gloves. . He gave far too many runs, going at over 6 in his 11 over spell. 3-68 would still have been fine, but 1-68 in 11 overs is too much even for an aggressive brand of cricket.
Wriddhiman Saha, who some believe is the best keeper we have in India, as usual, missed an absolute sitter....... Can't recollect the recent Bangladesh test, but in all other games that I remember Saha keeping for India, he has fluffed chances. He's a bit of a fighter with the bat but doesn't have the class in that department, its high time we cut the losses and move on.......
KL Rahul is a quality player as I said, but time as a phenomenon doesn't seem to be in his favor at the moment. As such, he has to make every opportunity count. India are scheduled to play a lot of subcontinent games now, Dhawan is a good bet for such conditions and he is putting up scores. Vijay has to be an automatic selection if fit. So Rahul can't afford too many failures if he has to stay in the side.
Current IPL megastar and yesterday's test bowler Harbhajan Singh looked exactly like that, never looked like picking up a wicket, didn't go for too many just because Lanka had lost too many wickets at the time when he was bowling and were trying to rebuild-survive. Looks a shadow of his former self, or may be looks pretty much like his post 2010 version. He will have to rediscover the old Harbhajan somehow and do it very quickly. Otherwise he will leave the selectors with egg on their face pretty soon.
Rohit was Rohit, absolutely dreadful. This was a slightly challenging pitch and Rohit duely failed and that too playing an absolutely pathetic shot! Pujara should have played the Bangladesh test to start with....... Now all that India can hope for is that Rohit doesn't get a decent score in the next innings and thus ruin team's chances for the next 10 tests.......

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Post by msp83 on Wed 12 Aug 2015, 2:08 pm

For Sri Lanka, post-Sangakkara era doesn't seem all that great. There is batting quality in Mathews and Chandimal, but the latter has quite mastered the big scores you need in tests. Karunaratne can have his days and Silva is a stubborn batsman and you will have to get him out. But that's about it. The likes of Mubarak who has been tried time and again just don't seem to have to play consistent well at test level. Thirimanne has been far too inconsistent, and not many seem to be putting up a case to step up when Sanga goes after the next test.
Kaushal seems their best bet in the spin department, but as KPF said, he would to work on adding to more to his bowling as such, otherwise the stay at the top could be rather short. Herath seems to have enterered a face of decline as his career is coming to an end. He could still have days, and even now he doesn't give easy runs, but he doesn't seem to present the same wickettaking threat he presented earlier.

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Post by KP_fan on Wed 12 Aug 2015, 2:33 pm

one catch was spilled at slips and another easy but customary miss by saha...other than that Indian close catching was very sharp.

Wonder why Saha was billed as the "safest WK in the country"??

actually no wonder...Bhai wanted a meek / quite / mediocre guy that was no threat to him...and also checked the box of a reserve WK.

The best case will be as msp said....Rohit and Saha get exposed in this series but that doesn't cost India dear

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Post by msp83 on Wed 12 Aug 2015, 3:03 pm

When the alternatives were Parthiv Patel who couldn't catch a cold at one stage or Dinesh Karthik who was far too inconsistent with bat and gloves, it becomes difficult. But the fair and outstanding selection committee that seemingly has been undoing all of Dhoni's crime surprisingly chose not to dump his cunningly chosen reserve/understudy!!!!?
Think the selectors should give Naman Ojha an opportunity despite his recent failure with the A team. Or else they should tell Samsun to get his act together and start keeping in Ranji Trophy For Kerala.......

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Post by KP_fan on Wed 12 Aug 2015, 6:57 pm

msp83 wrote:When the alternatives were Parthiv Patel who couldn't catch a cold at one stage or Dinesh Karthik who was far too inconsistent with bat and gloves, it becomes difficult. But the fair and outstanding selection committee that seemingly has been undoing all of Dhoni's crime surprisingly chose not to dump his cunningly chosen reserve/understudy!!!!?
Think the selectors should give Naman Ojha an opportunity despite his recent failure with the A team. Or else they should tell Samsun to get his act together and start keeping in Ranji Trophy For Kerala.......

well selectors are not cunning...they follow principles of fair run....
that he was carried as the first reserve WK for 5 years........they will give him a few tests before dumping him.
No one is standing out and grabbing chances either...Uthappa, Samson, Ojha have all flopped....
the catch Saha dropped off Ishant was an absolute sitter
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Post by msp83 on Wed 12 Aug 2015, 9:01 pm

Keeping aside useless conspiracy theories, very much agree on Saha as totally inadequate with the gloves in particular. He has been regularly dropping chances, and though he has a good temperament with the bat, he doesn't have the technique or the range of shots to be a good batting option at the top level.

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Post by KP_fan on Thu 13 Aug 2015, 8:25 am

Perfect test match for India so far....228-2
Dhawan a 100 and Kohli moving towards one.

the pitch seems to have become slower and lower.......or is it a combination of good Indian batting and mediocre lankan bowling.
we will find out when they bat again......I suspect faster in the air aaron and Ishant may have a role to play with reverse in the 2nd inning
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Post by KP_fan on Thu 13 Aug 2015, 8:55 am

11th hundred, 8th overseas.......4th in 4 tests as a captain...and 5th in last 5 tests.....Virat Kohli.....raises his game at the bigger stage clap
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Post by kingraf on Thu 13 Aug 2015, 11:15 am

Think you rival me for President of the Virat Kohli fan club, kpf!! Stunning gem of a cricketer.
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Post by VTR on Thu 13 Aug 2015, 11:29 am

KP_fan wrote:11th hundred, 8th overseas.......4th in 4 tests as a captain...and 5th in last 5 tests.....Virat Kohli.....raises his game at the bigger stage clap

Apart from the marquee 5 Test series in England last year where you would be forgiven for thinking he didn't even make the trip over such was the paucity of his returns

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Post by Duty281 on Thu 13 Aug 2015, 11:45 am

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KP_fan wrote:11th hundred, 8th overseas.......4th in 4 tests as a captain...and 5th in last 5 tests.....Virat Kohli.....raises his game at the bigger stage clap

Apart from the marquee 5 Test series in England last year where you would be forgiven for thinking he didn't even make the trip over such was the paucity of his returns

Indeed, a high score of 39 and an average of 13 in ten innings!

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Post by KP_fan on Thu 13 Aug 2015, 2:02 pm

His Eng show would stand out more if he had failed largely outside the sub-continent.......like Dhawan.

But Kohli smashed hundreds in SA, NZ and 4 in 4 tests in Aus, including one in each inning of Adelaide....would make Eng more an exception......I am sure he would love to compensate in one of the future tours and given his age, he will definitively tour Eng a few times.


On the match itself today.....one of the biggest positives was the 60 run inning played by Saha....very difficult batting conditions...ball turning square, jumping of the length....keeping low occasionally...reversing....pitch slow and not easy to score off....outfield even slower.......and every run is worth a run and a half here....

amidst skepticism and in implicit sword hanging on his head....saha played a good inning......straight batted and proper in defense and good array of strokes....has earned himself one more series.....

And then bang India went on the attack...immediately opening with spinners and plucking out two wickets instantly.....
More than 5 bowlers...it's the aggressive intent that is making a difference....." we do not play for a draw.......want to win even if that costs us a defeat"...no half measures.

and so far it's shown results.....
will see how it goes tomm





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Post by msp83 on Thu 13 Aug 2015, 3:39 pm

India win the 2nd day as well, despite a midd-day struggle with the bat after a big partnership between Dhawan and Kohli. Kohli has had a few adjustment issues playing spin at times though there was not much wrong with his overall game, so he worked on his shot range against spin and has a ton to show for that right away. Yet another dismissal soon after the ton, a batsman of his class should be miffed with that, this was an issue with him early in his career, but he went some way in addressing that in Australia.
A mature hand from Dhawan, didn't go too flashy, is tightening his game and his approach to leaving the ball.
A timely innings from Saha. One can expect Saha to tough it out with the bat in demanding conditions with his temperament, but today he did play some good shots in scoring his first test 50. He was indeed helped by some trocious early full-tosses b Kaushal in particular, but the ball was turning even then.
Great start to the 2nd innings with the ball as Ashwin and Mishra packed off the Lankan openers very quickly indeed. Good surprise move from Kohli to open with his spinners too.
Ajinkya Rahane, India's 2nd most consistent batsman had a failure with the bat. Ashwin, Mishra or Harbhajan didn't offer much with the bat. Those were the disappointments of the day.

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Post by KP_fan on Thu 13 Aug 2015, 3:55 pm

I give give credit to shastri  also ...his commentary might be cliched....but he is a very aggressive coach.....
If you had a Flower or Dhoni or gavaskar mentality coach.....they would pull back Kohli with fears, doubt, lets see off , get set, play for lunch play for a draw type ideas......Shastri is not holding anything back......go all out for a win.

They will lose some with this approach.....but win a LOT More than they lose.

and it is important for them to win some early...so that they generate belief in their own aggressive ways


Also I understand  Saha was given out off the helmet.....with a few tweaks ( especially the umpires call subject).....India should take on DRS...they will be  hurt more going forward then they will benefit if they do not accept

And I do believe that Kohli and new BCCI regime is more open to it than Dhoni / Srini

PS* For the first time EVER in the history of Test cricket both openers dismissed for ducks by spinners Shocked
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Post by msp83 on Thu 13 Aug 2015, 5:28 pm

Yes, BCCI should use their clout in the right direction regarding DRS. Take out the benefit of doubt to umpire nonsense, it was never part of the traditions of the game and it creates unnecessary issues for the very vialibility of DRS. Introduce a more standard system and go with it. Also press for a standard set of tools. Rather than blocking it out for ever, this what the BCCI should push for.

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Post by KP_fan on Thu 13 Aug 2015, 9:31 pm

mayank agarwal and Pandey scored hundreds again.....in a high scoring game.....these two have done well.....
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Post by VTR on Fri 14 Aug 2015, 7:55 am

India on the wrong end of quite a few umpiring calls today. If only there was some kind of review system that allowed them to check the decisions again

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Post by kingraf on Fri 14 Aug 2015, 11:17 am

Sri Lanka need 90 more runs to make it interesting.
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Post by kingraf on Fri 14 Aug 2015, 11:18 am

Chandimal just switch hit Bhajji for a six!! What a talent
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Post by kingraf on Fri 14 Aug 2015, 11:34 am

Some seriously incompetent umpiring on Display
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Post by VTR on Fri 14 Aug 2015, 11:43 am

kingraf wrote:Some seriously incompetent umpiring on Display

The volume of bad decisions is always higher in spinning conditions. India really need to push for the tweaks to DRS that they require so there is some kind of system they are happy with. Accepting umpiring like this looks absolutely stone-age when you have other major series using DRS.

If decisions had gone as they should here we would be talking about an innings victory right now rather than a tricky run chase

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Post by Duty281 on Fri 14 Aug 2015, 11:47 am

Tremendous effort from Chandimal - Sri Lanka do have something half-decent to defend in the second innings now.

And this test is proving to be a great advert for DRS, no matter how much backward cricket nations like India pretend that it isn't needed.

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Post by kingraf on Fri 14 Aug 2015, 12:01 pm

Chandimal playing one of the great Test innings in front of some seagulls, swans, and possibly even a hawk.
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Post by Duty281 on Fri 14 Aug 2015, 12:18 pm

Lead of 175.

Chandimal's runs in this test - 221. clap

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Post by msp83 on Fri 14 Aug 2015, 4:31 pm

That was a very good knock from Dinesh Chandimal. That means India have a tough chase on their hand. galle is a place known for batting collapse, not a game has passed without one if the weather stays OK. Sri Lanka had one in the first innings, is that all we will have? That is the big question. India are already one down as KL Rahul yet again failed to grab the opportunity. Because India didn't send in the wrong Sharma in at 3, they could go to stumps only 1 down as Ishant saw things out in the company of Dhawan. India need another 153 tomorrow. Think they will have to stay positive without going reckless.

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Post by msp83 on Fri 14 Aug 2015, 5:03 pm

The umpiring standards for the first 2 days weren't great, on the 3rd day it became godawful. Chandimal should have been out in single digits, should have been the case with Thirimanne. Chandimal gave further chances but the umpires didn't see them. Again, this stressesthe need for the BCCI to get their act together on DRS. push for the necessary changes in the system and go for it soon.

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