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Summer Tournament Round 5 - Pools C & D

Post by SirJohnnyEnglish on Wed 29 Jul 2015, 9:01 pm

Home teams to be named by 23:59 hours on Thursday 30th July 2015
Away teams to be named by 23:59 hours on Thursday 30th July 2015
Tactics by 23:59 hours on Thursday 30th July
Predictions to be PM’d to SJE by 18:00 hours on Sunday 2nd August 2015



Pool C


Bulls vs. Bath Rugby

Bulls
Manager – Frans Ludeke

01. Morne Mellett09. Rudy Paige
02. Adrian Strauss10. Handre Pollard
03. Marcel van der Merwe
04. Flip van der Merwe11. Travis Ismaiel
05. Grant Hattingh12. Burger Odendaal
06. Arno Botha13. JJ Engelbrecht
07. Jacques du Plessis14. Francois Hougaard
08. Pierre Spies15. Jesse Kriel
Subs:
16 Callie Visagie 17 Trevor Nyakane 18 Werner Kruger 19 Nicolaas Janse van Rensburg 20 Roelof Smit 21 Bjorn Basson 22 Tiaan Schoeman 23 Jacques-Louis Potgeiter



Bath Rugby
Manager – CJB


01. Steven Kitchoff09. Tawera Kerr Barlow
02. Mikey Haywood10. Jack Debrenczeni
03. Samson Lee
04. Charlie Ewels11. Christian Wade
05. Charlie Matthews12. Damian De Allende
06. Siya Kolisi13. Michele Campagnaro
07. Liam Gill14. George North
08. Toby Falateu15. Liam Williams
16. Jack Innard 17. Ellis Genge 18. Scott Wilson 19. Tom Ellis 20. Josh Beaumont 21. Josh Whiteley 22. Sam Hill 23. Hallam Amos


London Wasps vs. Waratahs


Wasps
Manager – CJ


01. Nathan Catt 09. Ben Harper
02. Corey Flynn10.  Charlie Hodgson
03. Sekope Kepu
04. Luke Charteris11. George Moala
05. George Skivington12. Finn Russell
06. Carl Fearns13. George Lowe
07. Chris Robshaw14. Rob Horne
08. Victor Vito15. Chris Pennell
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16. David Kilcoyne, 17. Richardt Strauss, 18. James Johnston,  19.  George Merrick, 20. Alexandre Lapandry, 21. Rhodri Williams , 22. Francois Trinh-Duc, 23. Craig Gilroy

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Waratahs

Manager – Michael Cheika

01. Benn Robinson09. Nick Phipps
02. Tatafu Polota-Nau 10. Bernard Foley
03. Sekope Kepu
04. Will Skelton11. Rob Horne
05. Dave Dennis12. Kurtley Beale
06. Jacques Potgieter13. Adam Ashley-Cooper
07. Michael Hooper14. Taqele Naiyaravoro
08. Wycliff Palu15. Israel Folau
Subs:
16 Silatolu Latu 17 Jeremy Tilse 18 Paddy Ryan 19 Sam Lousi 20 Mitch Chapman 21 Stephen Hoiles 22 Brendan McKibbin 23 Matt Carraro



Northampton Saints vs. Chiefs

 Northampton Saints
Manager – Dammit_Chris

1. Mako Vunipola
2. Ashley Johnson
3. Ramiro Herrera
4. Michael Paterson
5. Courtney Lawes
6. Jacques du Plessis
7. Schalk Burger
8. Sergio Parisse(c)
9. Sam Hildago-Cline
10. George Ford(k)
11. Julian Savea
12. Weslie Fofana
13. Elliot Daly
14. Tommy Bowe
15. Leigh Halfpenny

16. Dylan Hartley 17. Thomas Domingo 18. Martin Castrogiovanni 19. Sam Burgess 20. Samu Manoa 21. Joe Simpson 22. Matt Giteau 23. Rieko Ioane.

Chiefs
Manager – Dave Rennie

01. Mitchell Graham09. Augustine Pulu
02. Hika Elliot10. Aaron Cruden
03. Ben Tameifuna
04. Matt Symons11. James Lowe
05. Brodie Retallick12. Sonny Bill Williams
06. Liam Messam13. Charlie Ngatai
07. Sam Cane14. Tim Nanai-Williams
08. Michael Leitch15. Damien McKenzie
Subs:
16 Quentin MacDonald 17 Pauliasi Manu 18 Jamie Mackintosh 19 Michael Fitzgerald 20 Sean Polwart  21 Brad Weber 22 Andrew Horrell 23 Bryce Heem



Pool D


Worcester Warriors vs. Sharks

Worcester Warriors
Manager – prop_lyd

01. Joe Moody09. Gareth Davies
02. Codie Taylor10. Jules Plisson
03. Henry Thomas
04. Tom Savage11. Waisake Naholo
05. Stuart Hooper12. Alapati Leuia
06. Mike Williams13. Jarrad Payne
07. George Smith14. Nehe Millner Skudder
08. Jackson Wray15. Brice Dulin
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16. Ross Batty 17. Ryan Grant 18. Will Collier 19. Dean Mumm 20. David Sisi 21. Rory Kockott 22. Owen Williams 23. Mathew Tait

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Sharks
Manager – Gary Gold

01. Tendai Mtawarira09. Cobus Reinach
02. Bismarck du Plessis10. Patrick Lambie
03. Jannie du Plessis
04. Pieter-Steph du Toit11. Lwazi Mvovo
05. Stephan Lewies12. Francois Steyn
06. Marcell Coetzee13.Waylon Murray
07. Willem Alberts14. JP Pietersen
08. Ryan Kankowski15. SP Marais
Subs:
16 Kyle Cooper 17 Thomas du Toit 18 Lourens Adriaanse 19 Marco Wentzel 20 Renaldo Bothma 21 Michael Claassens 22 Fred Zeilinga 23 Odwa Ndungane



Brumbies vs. Leicester Tigers

Brumbies
Manager – Stephen Larkham

01. Scott Sio09. Nic White
02. Stephen Moore  10. Christian Lealiifano
03. Ben Alexander
04. Sam Carter11. Henry Speight
05. Rory Arnold12. Matt Toomua
06. Scott Fardy13. Tevita Kuridrani
07. David Pocock14. Joe Tomane
08. Ita Vaea15. Jesse Mogg
Subs:
16 Josh Mann-Rea 17 Allan Alaalatoa 18 Ruan Smith 19 Blake Enever 20 Jarrad Butler 21 Michael Dowsett 22  Nigel Ah Wong 23 Robbie Coleman



Leicester Tigers
Manager – LukeLovesLuka

01. Alex Corbisiero09. Kahn Fotuali'i
02. Stephen Moore (c)      10. Freddie Burns (K)
03. Cencus Johnston
04. Pascal Pape11. Drew Mitchell
05. Steve Mafi12. Billy Twelvetrees
06. Juan Smith13. Mathieu Bastareaud
07. JMF Lobbe14. Rene Ranger
08. Thomas Waldrom15. Cheslin Kolbe
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16. Hika Elliot 17. Gethin Jenkins 18. Owen Franks 19. Kearnan Myall 20. Francois Louw 21. Micky Young 22. Dan Bowden 23. Mike Brown

Harlequins vs. Hurricanes


Harlequins
Manager – Steven_Sharks

1. Ben Robinson
2. Scott Baldwin
3. John Afoa
4. Luke Romano
5. Pieter Steph Du Toit
6. Damien Chouly
7. Jaco Kriel
8. Nick Easter
9. Luke McGrath
10. Steven Myler
11. Teddy Thomas
12. Luther Burrell
13. Jonathan Joseph
14. Santiago Cordero
15. Rob Kearney

16. Schalk Brits
17. Gurthro Steenkamp
18. Tadhg Furlong
19. George Kruis
20. Michael Hooper
21. Karl Dickson
22. Colin Slade
23. Juan Martin Hernandez

Hurricanes
Manager – Chris Boyd

01. Reggie Goodes09. TJ Perenara
02. Dane Coles10. Beauden Barrett
03. Ben Franks
04. Jeremy Thrush11. Julian Savea
05. James Broadhurst12. Ma'a Nonu
06. Brad Shields13. Conrad Smith
07. Ardie Savea14. Nehe Milner-Skudder
08. Victor Vito15. James Marshall
Subs:
16 Brayden Mitchell 17 Chris Eves 18 Jeff Toomaga-Allen 19 Mark Abbott 20 Blade Thomson  21 Chris Smylie 22 Ray Lee-Lo 23 Matt Proctor



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Re: Summer Tournament Round 5 - Pools C & D

Post by CJB on Wed 29 Jul 2015, 9:41 pm



Bath Rugby
Manager – CJB
01. Steven Kitchoff09. Tawera Kerr Barlow
02. Mikey Haywood10. Jack Debrenczeni
03. Samson Lee
04. Charlie Ewels11. Christian Wade
05. Charlie Matthews 12. Damian De Allende
06. Siya Kolisi13. Michele Campagnaro
07. Liam Gill 14. George North
08. Toby Falateu 15. Liam Williams
16. Jack Innard 17. Ellis Genge 18. Scott Wilson 19. Tom Ellis 20. Josh Beaumont 21. Josh Whiteley 22. Sam Hill 23. Hallam Amos

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Re: Summer Tournament Round 5 - Pools C & D

Post by ChequeredJersey on Thu 30 Jul 2015, 12:30 am

Wasps
Manager – CJ
01. Nathan Catt 09. Ben Harper
02. Corey Flynn10.  Charlie Hodgson
03. Sekope Kepu
04. Luke Charteris11. George Moala
05. George Skivington12. Finn Russell
06. Carl Fearns13. George Lowe
07. Chris Robshaw14. Rob Horne
08. Victor Vito15. Chris Pennell
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16. David Kilcoyne, 17. Richardt Strauss, 18. James Johnston,  19.  George Merrick, 20. Alexandre Lapandry, 21. Rhodri Williams , 22. Francois Trinh-Duc, 23. Craig Gilroy

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Re: Summer Tournament Round 5 - Pools C & D

Post by Sgt_Pooly on Thu 30 Jul 2015, 8:01 am

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Post by Steven_Sharks on Thu 30 Jul 2015, 10:09 am

1. Ben Robinson
2. Scott Baldwin
3. John Afoa
4. Luke Romano
5. Pieter Steph Du Toit
6. Damien Chouly
7. Jaco Kriel
8. Nick Easter
9. Luke McGrath
10. Steven Myler
11. Teddy Thomas
12. Luther Burrell
13. Jonathan Joseph
14. Santiago Cordero
15. Rob Kearney

16. Schalk Brits
17. Gurthro Steenkamp
18. Tadhg Furlong
19. George Kruis
20. Michael Hooper
21. Karl Dickson
22. Colin Slade
23. Juan Martin Hernandez

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Re: Summer Tournament Round 5 - Pools C & D

Post by prop_lyd on Thu 30 Jul 2015, 2:23 pm

01. Joe Moody09. Gareth Davies
02. Codie Taylor 10. Jules Plisson
03. Henry Thomas
04. Tom Savage11. Waisake Naholo
05. Stuart Hooper12. Alapati Leuia
06. Mike Williams13. Jarrad Payne
07. George Smith14. Nehe Millner Skudder
08. Jackson Wray15. Brice Dulin
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16. Ross Batty 17. Ryan Grant 18. Will Collier 19. Dean Mumm 20. David Sisi 21. Rory Kockott 22. Owen Williams 23. Mathew Tait

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Re: Summer Tournament Round 5 - Pools C & D

Post by LukeLovesLuka on Thu 30 Jul 2015, 7:12 pm

Leicester Tigers
Manager – LukeLovesLuka

01. Alex Corbisiero09. Kahn Fotuali'i
02. Stephen Moore (c)      10. Freddie Burns (K)
03. Cencus Johnston
04. Pascal Pape11. Drew Mitchell
05. Steve Mafi12. Billy Twelvetrees
06. Juan Smith13. Mathieu Bastareaud
07. JMF Lobbe14. Rene Ranger
08. Thomas Waldrom15. Cheslin Kolbe
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16. Hika Elliot 17. Gethin Jenkins 18. Owen Franks 19. Kearnan Myall 20. Francois Louw 21. Micky Young 22. Dan Bowden 23. Mike Brown

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Re: Summer Tournament Round 5 - Pools C & D

Post by SirJohnnyEnglish on Fri 31 Jul 2015, 9:27 am

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Re: Summer Tournament Round 5 - Pools C & D

Post by SirJohnnyEnglish on Sun 02 Aug 2015, 6:40 pm

RESULTS:

Bulls 24 (T:3 P:3)
Bath 25 (T:3 C:2 P:2)

Wasps 22 (T:1 C:1 P:5)
Waratahs 31 (T:4 C:4 P:1)

Northampton Saints 32 (T:4 C:3 P:2)
Chiefs 30 (T:4 C:2 P:2)

Worcester Warriors 25 (T:3 C:2 P:2)
Sharks 28 (T:3 C:2 P:3)

Brumbies 26 (T:2 C:2 P:4)
Leicester Tigers 25 (T:3 C:2 P:2)

Harlequins 27 (T:3 C:3 P:2)
Hurricanes 32 (T:4 C:3 P:2)

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Re: Summer Tournament Round 5 - Pools C & D

Post by SirJohnnyEnglish on Sun 02 Aug 2015, 6:41 pm

Bulls 29 - 27 Bath

Bath look to have gone with a RWC pack, and against a physical SA side this was a risk. Think they run the risk of losing a fair few of the battles up front, especially in the back 5 of the scrum. This would usually mean a defeat, but the quality they've put out in the backs means they can still compete and score off very little ball. Think the key would be Pollard and Kriel, if they perform then they'll match the Bath backs and probably sneak a win. The impact off the Bath bench is negligible, and think Bulls will hold on

Bulls 21 - 21 Bath

Young Bath pack which would require some of their more experienced heads to compete in AP. Bath's real strength is in their outside backs who are physical, quick and creative and will cause anyone problems. Not sure the half backs the best pair to out them on the attack. Can't separate the sides.

Bulls 23-25 Bath

Not too much in the packs with Bath edging the front row but Bull having more in the engine room and backrow. Half backs pretty close but mostly Bath past that. Bath just enough to take a good away win with Bulls back line and goal kicking not the best.

Bulls 19 - 22 Bath 
Second row might be a slight issue for Bath, but again the Bulls have been pretty poor and can't see them getting a platform from their forwards and Ewels is a future England player. It comes down to the backlines and in terms of attack Bath are up there as one of the best around, Williams gives them a top class fullback, haven't seen anything of Debrenczeni so a little hard to rate and could impact on predictions.

Bulls 18-17 Bath
See a scrum edge for the Bulls but else where hard to separate the forwards. Halfbacks one a piece but Bulls shade due to more form to go on. De Allende in top form will cause problems for anyone. Bath back three great on the front foot but defensively has issues. Bath youngsters off the bench will struggle late on. 

Bulls 24-28 Bath
Step up for Bath in front row, feel Bulls edge 2nd row but Bath eq options there are very good for the league. Think Bath will edge the back row battle. Half backs 1 a piece and the same in the centres too. It's out wide that Bath can cause the trouble so long as they get quick ball their back line will be very dangerous on the hard ground. Strong Bulls bench helps against a good but fairly inexperienced Bath bench which will be a great bench if all the players progress as per over the next couple of seasons.

Bulls 20-19 Bath Rugby
Ewels and Matthews as a lock pairing doesn't work for me and gives the Bulls an advantage up front.  Better attacking back line for Bath, but stronger bench for the Bulls.  At home, the Bulls have enough to win this one despite having a pretty average back line overall.

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Re: Summer Tournament Round 5 - Pools C & D

Post by SirJohnnyEnglish on Sun 02 Aug 2015, 6:41 pm

Wasps 23 - 28 Waratahs

Wasps pack really has improved, and is a good match for the Waratahs forwards. Robshaw has got the better of Hooper before, and the rest of the pack will match them physically. Behind the scrum is where the side is still lacking though for me, the halfbacks are a bit too flimsy for this level, and Russell is definitely not a 12 IMO. Up against quality like Foley, AAC and Folau this will cost them, and its only the pack which keeps this from being a bigger defeat. CJ - I'd start Robshaw, Skivington and Pennell as definites. Outside of that, Fearns needs to prove himself in France, I'd probably stick with Lowe as the 4th starter in the league

Wasps 23 - 26 Waratahs

Not sure at all about the Wasps centres. Small and will have real issues defensively for me. Quite like the pack and it should be ok at set piece and in the loose. Don't feel the back line has the right balance. Not enough go forward. 

Wasps 21-24 Waratahs

Waratahs better engine room but Wasps better backrow with Robshaw/Vito better than their opposition. Past the pack it's mostly Tah's with Wasps centre combo not working too well imo. Tah's too strong here and will the win.Fearns, Robshaw, Pennell, Hodgson, Lowe good options.

Wasps 21 - 23 Waratahs 
A few selections seem a bit of an experiment for Wasps, especially Finn Russell at no12 who I haven't seen play there before and Catt needs more starts for Bath in the AP. Robshaw always seems to get the upper hand on Hooper in internationals, but more threat from the Tahs backline as they have some powerful strike runners. Fearns has the slight issue of joining Lyon so might not get seen as much. Probably worth trying to use any funds to bring in some EQ like Guy Thompson at Wasps as there are still some good cheap players out there. 

Wasps 20-30 Tahs
See a big Tahs pack winning the collisions and getting on the front foot more often. Wasps compete well at the breakdown though. Is it suppose to be Spencer at 9???? Tahs stronger at halfback with international standard players. Really not sure on Russel at 12 think he will struggle defensively against big runners. Feel Tahs can get on the front foot and get Folau/Naiyaravoro in space.

Wasps 25-30 Waratahs
Tahs could take the front row with the 2nd row slightly closer. Hooper vs Robshaw would be interesting but feel that Tahs could win this battle. Half backs again to Tahs but Hodgson will be a steady head for Wasps and will be a good player to have this season. Like the look of the Wasps centres but see that Tahs have too much international experience. Again in the back 3 I just feel that Wasps have come up against a very strong team. A better bench for Wasps which will make this slightly closer. Cj, I'd look at Robshaw, Skivington possibly Hodgson but not sure and Pennell if he hits form in the Premiership.

Wasps 19-28 Waratahs
Forward battle belongs to the Tahs, and witht the backline they have they could cut loose.  Wasps have some good defensive players in Skivs and Robshaw who will keep them in it, but I can't see where they will trouble the Tahs enough to win the game.

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Re: Summer Tournament Round 5 - Pools C & D

Post by SirJohnnyEnglish on Sun 02 Aug 2015, 6:42 pm

Saints 37 - 35 Chiefs

Saints should have the edge up front at scrum time, but I've never seen Johnson play hooker so tough for me to rate him at the set piece. Back 5s of the scrum very even round the park, plenty of power and breakdown ability on both sides. One apiece at halfback, with Cruden just ahead of Ford and I'm a big fan of SHC. Outside backs have threats on each side, can see plenty of tries in this one. Its just the bench that seals this one for Saints, as you'd expect our strongest sides to have quality benches

Saints 25 - 23 Chiefs

I'm not having Johnson as  hooker and mark it down massively. Saints have a decent side out and have enough to beat a good Chiefs side. Very physical pack and exciting backs marshalled by two talented young half backs.

Northampton 25-28 Chiefs

Chiefs take the front row with Johnson a strange call at hooker causing all sorts of set piece issues. Chiefs better engine room and backrow very close in a good contest. Chiefs step up at 9 with cline not quite at this level, great 10 battle though with Crudens form evening things up. Chiefs better in midfield but Saints back 3 strong bar Bowe. Chiefs strong throughout take away win.

Saints 30-27 Chiefs
Johnson at hook causes a lot of problems at the set piece for Saints. Great battle between the packs around the park. Halfbacks one a piece and hard to separate. Chiefs midfield edge as a unit but Saints a step up in the back three. Benches are different class though and this is what pips it for Saints. 

Saints 34-33 Chiefs
Close in the front row as not sure how Johnson is going to do at hooker (expect well but need more games to prove it). Good eq 2nd row for Saints but Chiefs strong here. Back row even with Cane causing problems for Burger but Saints have the stronger carriers. Half backs very close think Chiefs just take it at 9 but not alot in it. Good centre battle, currently I think SBW would cause more problems with a running game looking likely with these sides. Saints stronger in the back 3 though and a very strong bench takes this game for them but it's close in a very high scoring game.

Saints 30-27 Chiefs
Superb Saints back line, but slightly experimental in the pack, with Johnson at hooker a potential issue,  and du Plessis at 6 also maybe a bit hit and miss.  I'm not sure that a well drilled Chiefs pack is the right one to go up against like that.   Draw.

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Re: Summer Tournament Round 5 - Pools C & D

Post by SirJohnnyEnglish on Sun 02 Aug 2015, 6:42 pm

Worcester 27 - 31 Sharks

Really good game. Both packs have a real hard edge about them, and can see this being a really heavy hitting battle up front. The extra quality at the breakdown of Coetzee and BDP is likely the difference between the packs for me. Behind the scrum, Lambie is the standout halfback IMO, and the likes of NMS and Naholo add a real threat to the Worcester side. They'll keep this close, but think Sharks have enough to hold on, despite the stronger Worcester bench

Worcester 22 - 22 Sharks

Goof Worcester side. Physical pack with a breakdown presence. Not having Goneva as a 12 but ok at 13 with the right balance around him.Half backs not as strong as the outside backs who have a good physical presence as well as creativity.

Worcester 18-23 Sharks

Sharks a touch better throughout 1-10 and can get control. I like Wuss back line but not enough in pack or halfbacks to get foothold.

Worcester Warriors 37 - 29 Sharks
Cracking backline again from the homeside the back three combination is great, but probably start Tait as he's got a new contract at Tigers and no great difference in what Dulin offers. Thomas should have a big season and a definite starter, Wray might struggle a bit for gametime at Sarries this season with emergence of Itoje and Conlon signing. Goneva doesn't have the hands for a no12 but can deliver at no13 as a ball carrier.

Worcester 22-26 Sharks
Worc struggle massively here at the scrum and think they may have problems at the breakdown as well. 11-15 Steyn is the only one who competes against Worc but the Sharks halfbacks have more about them. 

Worcester 22-25 Sharks

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Post by SirJohnnyEnglish on Sun 02 Aug 2015, 6:42 pm

Leicester 30 - 25 Brumbies

Leicester have the pack to starve Brumbies of possession, and think if they play that game tactically then they'll have real success against most sides. Plenty of set piece prowess, and the breakdown will always be strong with Smith and Lobbe around. A lot of big men in both backlines, will be a real physical battle. Think Brumbies have a bit more guile about them, even though i'm not a fan of Lealifano as a 10. Good game, Leicester strong enough

Brumbies 22 - 21 Leicester

Leicester's pack strong with the exception of Mafi who isn't a brilliant lock. Like the backrow and the front row. Backs reliant on form as there are hit and miss players at 9, 10 and 12 which isn't ideal.

Brumbies 17-24 Tigers

Tigers looking strong and take the pack at a canter. Just prefer Tigers halfbacks/centres but Brumbies back 3 a bit stronger. Good win for Tigers.

Brumbies 27 - 25 Tigers
In bad conditions the Tigers pack will take most teams, especially when they can bring on guys like Louw from the bench. Great lineout and scrum, can see them being very effective with rolling mauls and the breakdown. So they do have a great platform for their backs, just not sure whether they will always take their chances that they will create with their pack, a bit more creativity or a WC finisher outwide and they could get some big wins. 

Brumbies 18-19 Leicester 
Packs wise very hard to separate the sides here and both compete well around the park and at the set piece. Not an awful lot between the halfbacks and back threes. Bastareaud a good focal point for Tigers but Brumbies midfield has that little bit more. Quality of the Tigers bench snatches this late on.

Brumbies 27-25 Tigers
Front row close, 2nd row a slight edge for Tigers. Think it'll be a close back row battle but Brumbies could get a small advantage. Half backs goe to Brumbies at the moment and slightly in the centres too but it is close and if 12T could get Bastareaud into space it''ll be a good battle. Bit more about Tigers out wide. A strong Tigers bench will make this game closer for them.

Brumbies 20-20 Leicester

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Re: Summer Tournament Round 5 - Pools C & D

Post by SirJohnnyEnglish on Sun 02 Aug 2015, 6:43 pm

Quins 27 - 33 Hurricanes
Quins haven't gone with their full strength side, and up against the best side in Super Rugby last year they won't find it easy. Not sure on the balance in the Quins back row, and McGrath is going to be up against it at this level. The Hurricanes backline is just ridiculous, and that centre combo is probably one of the few that could challenge Quins full strength combo, with Burrell lacking a bit of form they'll do well. A full strength Quins side has enough to beat Canes, but here I have to go with a Canes win on the road

Harlequins 20-26 Hurricanes
Hurricanes take front 5 with a few form issues for Quins. Similar story in back row with Canes a bit better. Canes much stronger in back line bar Kearney who's better than opposite number. Tough ask for 2nd string Quins side against strong Canes outfit.

Quins 36 - 33 Hurricanes
Canes have the more threatening backline and some great finishers all over, but the Quins pack is much better with great combinations throughout and can starve the away team of quality ball. Joseph, Cordero and Kearney can offer some great attacking threats as well. Haven't seen much of McGrath at no9. Bench options strong for late impact to see them just hold off the Hurricanes. 

Quins 26-30 Canes
Not a lot between the sides at the set piece and breakdown but Canes pack has more carrying about it. Canes halfbacks a step up as is the midfield and can see them causing Quins a lot of problems. Quins wings with a lot of potential about them.

Quins 26-30 Canes
Can't really call it across the whole pack to be honest and I think that neither team is really going to give much of an edge to be honest. Looking at half back I think that Canes gain an advantage here and they do have a wc centre pairing which the Quins centres will be able to hold off for a bit but don't think it'll be neough today. Outwide Quins have some form in Cordero but Canes are incredibly strong here and think this'll get them the win. Quins bench will make it closer with the front row impact and Hooper to come on but it won't be enough.

Quins 27-29 Canes

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Re: Summer Tournament Round 5 - Pools C & D

Post by LukeLovesLuka on Sun 02 Aug 2015, 7:53 pm

Is my score vs brumbies right?

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Re: Summer Tournament Round 5 - Pools C & D

Post by SirJohnnyEnglish on Sun 02 Aug 2015, 10:02 pm

Yep it is there's two sets of score only predictions not included in the feedback. 28-24 and 27-26 both to Brumbies

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Re: Summer Tournament Round 5 - Pools C & D

Post by dammit_chris on Sun 02 Aug 2015, 10:39 pm

Thought playing AJ at hooker was going to get some comments, he played there in s15 and a lot for Wasps last season. Apparently he's now our first choice as that's where he wants to play, he had better lineout stats than our Italian but not so sure about the scrummaging part just yet.

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Re: Summer Tournament Round 5 - Pools C & D

Post by Ozzy3213 on Mon 03 Aug 2015, 7:01 am

Chris, we know he has played there and that Wasps are looking to move him there permanently, but whenever I saw him there, he was pretty hit and miss in the set piece, which is understandable.  After a full pre season working on playing hooker, he should be better, but currently, he's a gamble in the 2 jersey.

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Re: Summer Tournament Round 5 - Pools C & D

Post by Ozzy3213 on Mon 03 Aug 2015, 7:05 am

Pool CPWDLPFPATFTATBPLBPPTS
1. Northampton Saints   5    5    0    0   164   129   20   14   5025
2. Waratahs531114411516113118
3. Chiefs530214113018123116
4. Bath Rugby5212128142 13171112
5. Wasps51041241461117015
6. Bulls5005100139916033

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Re: Summer Tournament Round 5 - Pools C & D

Post by Ozzy3213 on Mon 03 Aug 2015, 7:10 am

Pool DPWDLPFPATFTATBPLBPPTS
1. Hurricanes   5    5    0    0    160    116   20    12     5025
2. Harlequins5212147136 17152214
3. Brumbies53111091199130014
4. Worcester Warriors    520314014516161312
5. Leicester Tigers51041311471517138
6. Sharks51041111351216048

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