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Post by Fluxy on Sun 09 Aug 2015, 1:25 pm

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Welcome to Season 8 of the Aviva Premiership fantasy rugby game.  Below are the rules of the game which must be adhered to.  If there are any situations that arise in the course of the game which are not covered by the rules, a final decision will be made by the RFU (SJE) as to how the situation will be resolved.


Senior Squads wrote:
The maximum squad size is 40 senior players.  If a team has more than 40 players in their squad then they will be fined £1 million per player over the permitted amounts per day for the first seven days. If after 7 consecutive days a team still has more than the permitted number of players then the team will be fined £2 million per player per day, and fined 1 league point per player per day for the next seven days. If after this time a team still has more than the permitted number of players in their squad, the RFU (SJE) will remove players at its discretion to bring them back under the permitted numbers. There will be no right of appeal to players being removed.

Be aware that all tier one international matches which are played during the season will count in the game, and players selected in the match day 23's for those matches will not be eligible to play for their clubs on that weekend, therefore you must give due consideration to the make-up of your squad.
Academy Rules wrote:
Each team will be allowed to have an academy squad of 23 players.  Players who are in the academy must be born on or after 1st September 1993.

Any player, who is at any Premiership club in real life, either in their senior, academy or AASE squads, can be bid for on the domestic bidding page. Players who are at your own club in real life and are coming through the academy system must be bid for if you want them in your own academy.
Transfers wrote:

  • Domestic (other AP Teams)
    Each team has a budget to use in the purchase of players. Domestic transfers between AP clubs, regardless of nationality of player, should be negotiated between the respective managers, and then confirmed on the Domestic Transfer Confirmation Page.
  • Domestic (Championship and below)
    Each team may during the season purchase no more than 5 players from the Championship or the National Leagues. Worcester Warriors & London Wasps will receive two additional bids to be used exclusively on academy age players. These players must be bid for on the National League Bidding page, and each bid will be considered by the RFU on its own merits before being accepted or rejected.  No bid will be accepted until a minimum of 24 hours has elapsed from the time the bid was made, in order to afford other managers the opportunity to make a counter bid.
  • Foreign
    To make a foreign transfer (i.e. from any club outside of the AP, regardless of whether the player is English) a bid should be made on the Foreign Transfers Page, which will be considered by the RFU against the posted guidelines for purchase prices before being accepted or rejected. No bid will be accepted until a minimum of 24 hours has elapsed from the time the bid was made, in order to afford other managers the opportunity to make a counter bid.

    There will be a summer foreign transfer window, which will run as follows.
    Player Draft
    Worcester Warriors & London Wasps will participate in a player draft beginning the week of June 22nd. Both sides will be allowed to draft two players each. The draft picks will go as follows; 1. Worcester 2. Wasps 3. Wasps 4. Worcester.

    Round Bidding
    There will be two rounds of bidding. The first window will run the week starting June 29th and the second the week starting July 3rd. All sides will be allowed to sign one player each during the window. These bids are not protected if you do not have the funds in place to bid during the window you will lose the bid.    

    Open Bidding
    From July 13th the foreign market will be open to all bids similar to previous seasons. Due to the world cup the window will remain open till the end of September.

Player Releases wrote:
Managers may choose to release players from their clubs, for which they will be offered compensation

Compensation will be paid as follows

£2 million – current international (must have played international rugby in the previous 12 months)
£1.5 million – former international
£1m – top flight experience
£0.5m – other

All released players will be deemed to have joined a Championship side and can be bid for on the National League Bidding page.
Retirements wrote:
There will be no compensation for retiring players.  Should a player who retires decide to come out of retirement and play again, then he will automatically go back to the club who he was playing for in the game when he retired.
Fixtures wrote:
There will be 22 Aviva Premiership games per season, plus the play offs. There will also be European Rugby Champions Cup, European Rugby Challenge Cup and Anglo Welsh Cup matches.  These games will take place once a week. A match thread will be put up every Monday. Home teams must be named by midnight on Tuesday. Away teams must be named by midnight on Wednesday. Failure to meet these deadlines is punishable by the addition of three match points to the oppositions final score, unless both sides fail to do so. Both teams must provide tactics by midnight on Thursday. Predictions will be open from 00:01 hours on Friday and remain open until 20:00 hours on Sunday. Managers will pm the scores that they think will happen from these games (apart from games in which they are involved).  An average of all predictions will be taken, and then 0.5 points added to each teams score for each prediction that had them as the winner, and that will then be the final score.

Managers are asked to provide detail as to why they have predicted a result.  To be considered a descriptive prediction this must be a full 3 lines long when entered into the text box.
Teams wrote:
When naming your team, not only should you put the starting XV and replacements, but also tactics that your team will employ. Results will be affected by the tactics described.

In addition, each team must have the following:-

For domestic competition at least 8 England qualified players in your match day 23, and at least 4 of those must be in your starting XV.

For European competition at least 8 England qualified players in your match day 23, and at least 6 of those must be in your starting XV.

At least 2 props and 1 hooker on the bench.

All players must be eligible (not injured or banned).

Failure to comply with these rules will result in a 1 league point deduction.

If you fail to submit a team for a match, then the other team will be automatically awarded a 30-0 bonus point win. If both teams fail to submit a team, then it will be scored as a 0-0 draw.
Injuries and Suspensions wrote:
Injuries in this game do NOT reflect real life, they will be generated by me.

Players banned in real life will be ineligible for selection in this game for the duration of the ban.

Inclusion of injured/banned players will result in them being replaced by players on the bench, and the bench not having eight players, which may result in punishment if it concerns the front-row.

Punishment for fielding an ineligible player will be loss of one match point.
Financial Rewards wrote:
There will be no rewards for the result of an individual match, instead the managers will receive cash for predicting.

£2m for descriptive predictions
£0.25m for scores on the doors predictions
Bonuses will be awarded on a scaled basis i.e. 2m for 5 games, 1.6m for 4 games and so on
If you fail to predict without first advising me that you are unable to do so that week, you will be fined £1m for a first offence, £2m for a second offence, £3m for a third offence etc upto a maximum of £5m per fine.

AP finishing positions.

Champions: 8m
Runners Up: 6m
Playoff Semi Finalist Losers: 5m
5th: 4m
6th: 3.5m
7th: 3m
8th: 2.5m
9th: 2m
10th: 1.5m
11th: 1m
12th: 0.5m

Heineken Cup

Losing Quarter Finalists - £2 million each
Losing Semi Finalists - £3 million each
Runners Up - £4 million
Champions - £5 million

Amlin Challenge Cup

Losing Quarter Finalists - £1 million each
Losing Semi Finalists - £2 million each
Runners Up - £3 million
Champions - £4 million

Anglo-Welsh Cup

Losing Semi Finalist - £1 million each
Runners Up - £2 million
Champions - £3 million


If your budgets falls below minus £10 million for any reason, the administrators (SJE) will step in and players from within your squad will be released for the relevant financial compensation (foreign transfer value) in order to bring your budget back above minus £10 million.


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Re: Season 8 Homepage II

Post by Guest on Sun 09 Aug 2015, 1:43 pm

Just watched the game as was at cricket yesterday.

Whenever NZ lose its due to teams getting after Aaron smith. Stop him and you stop NZ. Easier said than done though.

Putting pressure on smith meant that everything stopped and slows their rhythm.
It also made Carter and SBW have poor games as they were getting poor service.

With scrums on your put in your tight was so important and Sio gave franks a really hard time.
He could not anchor the scrum
And it caused all kinds of problems.

Pocock hooper and Fardy were an excellent unit together

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Re: Season 8 Homepage II

Post by dammit_chris on Sun 09 Aug 2015, 1:50 pm

Robshaw has put in his best performances against Hooper, which bodes well for us but a lack of a genuine 7 for England could get shown up.

Main concern I have with England is our lack of a really good kick chase game and how each of our wings have struggled when teams have kicked at them. Is a bit odd when you consider Ford's kicking is very good and both Nowell and Watson have played at fb.

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Post by Guest on Sun 09 Aug 2015, 2:03 pm

The form of Kieran read must be a worry to NZ. If he carries on he could be under pressure from vito

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Re: Season 8 Homepage II

Post by Sgt_Pooly on Sun 09 Aug 2015, 3:39 pm

I don't think Franks did too badly in the scrum, he stayed pretty solid. Woodcock was caving in almost every time, very odd weak performance from him.

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Re: Season 8 Homepage II

Post by Steven_Sharks on Sun 09 Aug 2015, 4:01 pm

Both were as bad as each other from what I've watched so far. Neither close to the level we've seen before. Could be the beginning of a decline for Woodcock but Franks hasn't hit his heights of Circa 2013 for a while now.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly on Sun 09 Aug 2015, 4:30 pm

Maybe you're right Steve. Woodcock was a bit more obvious on the overhead views.

Worrying for the AB's though as Aus are not a great unit.

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Post by Steven_Sharks on Sun 09 Aug 2015, 4:49 pm

Its an area opponents will target.

England the only side with genuine depth at scrum time I think.

Most international sides would take our 3rd choice pair of Mako and Brookes I'd wager. Certainly on the bench.

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Re: Season 8 Homepage II

Post by Sgt_Pooly on Sun 09 Aug 2015, 5:02 pm

Yea I imagine so, it's a real weapon for us.

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Re: Season 8 Homepage II

Post by prop_lyd on Sun 09 Aug 2015, 8:06 pm

Jdv has no luck! Broken jaw....

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Re: Season 8 Homepage II

Post by Steven_Sharks on Mon 10 Aug 2015, 1:30 pm

http://www.planetrugby.com/story/0,25883,3551_69257,00.html

Team of the week for RC.

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Post by prop_lyd on Mon 10 Aug 2015, 1:40 pm

I actually have 2 players in it!!!!

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Re: Season 8 Homepage II

Post by Ozzy3213 on Mon 10 Aug 2015, 1:41 pm

Just watched South Africa vs. Argentina. The Boks have some issues!

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Post by prop_lyd on Mon 10 Aug 2015, 1:51 pm

Was that recorded or on link ozzy?

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Post by Ozzy3213 on Mon 10 Aug 2015, 2:05 pm

Recorded mate.

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Re: Season 8 Homepage II

Post by dammit_chris on Mon 10 Aug 2015, 2:29 pm

Hernandez looked very good for Argentina Steve, he's been so unlucky with injuries in recent years but controls that side so well - wouldn't be surprised if they pick up a big scalp at the WC.

Fiji have also looked good and could cause an upset, the running options they have behind the scrum and the lock who plays for Glasgow has looked very good.

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Post by Driver on Mon 10 Aug 2015, 4:23 pm

Fiji have looked good against average teams though Chris, Tongans etc arn't known for being defensivley orginised

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Post by Sgt_Pooly on Mon 10 Aug 2015, 4:39 pm

Set piece and structure are always Fiji's downfall. They do look a bit tighter this year but I'd don't think they'll be a worry (maybe for Wales Wink)

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Re: Season 8 Homepage II

Post by BamBam on Mon 10 Aug 2015, 5:15 pm

England XV:
15-Alex Goode,
14-Anthony Watson,
13-Henry Slade,
12- Sam Burgess,
11-Jonny May,
10- Owen Farrell,
9- Richard Wigglesworth;

1-Mako Vunipola,
2- Rob Webber,
3- Kieran Brookes,  
4- George Kruis,
5-Geoff Parling,
6-Tom Wood,
7-Calum Clark,
8- Ben Morgan

Replacements: 16-Luke Cowan-Dickie, 17-Alex Corbisiero, 18-David Wilson, 19-Dave Attwood, 20- James Haskell, 21- Danny Care, 22-Danny Cipriani, 23-Billy Twelvetrees

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Post by Ozzy3213 on Mon 10 Aug 2015, 7:09 pm

I can't see how Lancaster can make reasonable judgements of players based on this selection.

Burgess and Slade together as centres on debut is ludicrous. Put one in at a time with the current 1st/2nd choices and see if they fit in.

Game 1: 10. Ford 12. Burgess 13. Joseph

Game 2: 10. Farrell 12. Barritt 13. Slade

At least give them a fecking chance, playing alongside established combinations.

Also what happens if we lose a winger early in the game? Where is the cover? None of the other backs, either starting or onbthe bench, cover the wing!

And don't even get me started on Calum Clark!!!!

Also, if the rumour is true and Corbs is going as he covers both sides, and chance of him.having a game at tighthead to see, as I can't remember the last time he played there.

Absolute shambles.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly on Mon 10 Aug 2015, 7:32 pm

That backline looks just wrong.

What's the issue with Clark? I'm quite looking forward to seeing him at 7.

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Post by Fluxy on Mon 10 Aug 2015, 7:44 pm

Burgess to the wing!

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Post by Fluxy on Mon 10 Aug 2015, 7:45 pm

or do I mean rescue...

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Post by Ozzy3213 on Mon 10 Aug 2015, 7:55 pm

Sgt_Pooly wrote:That backline looks just wrong.

What's the issue with Clark? I'm quite looking forward to seeing him at 7.

I've seen nothing from him to suggest he's international class, and he's only in as he is Bombers love child. You can't punt Hartley for his disciplinary issues and keep Clark in. It's double standards and suggests that Bomber has his favourites.

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Post by Guest on Mon 10 Aug 2015, 7:56 pm

Ozzy3213 wrote:I can't see how Lancaster can make reasonable judgements of players based on this selection.  

Burgess and Slade together as centres on debut is ludicrous.  Put one in at a time with the current 1st/2nd choices and see if they fit in.

Game 1: 10. Ford 12. Burgess 13. Joseph

Game 2: 10. Farrell 12. Barritt 13. Slade

At least give them a fecking chance, playing alongside established combinations.

Also what happens if we lose a winger early in the game?  Where is the cover?  None of the other backs, either starting or onbthe bench, cover the wing!

And don't even get me started on Calum Clark!!!!

Also, if the rumour is true and Corbs is going as he covers both sides, and chance of him.having a game at tighthead to see, as I can't remember the last time he played there.



Absolute shambles.

I agree with you fully Pete. Absolute nonsense unbalanced side. I am
With you on Clark also. It cheapens the cap when you give it away to a player like that. Nonsensical

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Post by dammit_chris on Mon 10 Aug 2015, 8:08 pm

You no longer a Lancaster fan Pete?

Guess Twelvetrees is on the bench in case the experiment goes very wrong and they have to take Burgess off. England play very differently to Bath, so I expect Burgess will get a lot more of the ball in terms of carrying as opposed to dummy runs, but also get himself isolated and concede turnovers.


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Re: Season 8 Homepage II

Post by Ozzy3213 on Mon 10 Aug 2015, 8:13 pm

Just seen an interview with Bomber where he says we will use Burgess like Bath do, as they don't use him as a lineout option either!

The bloke is an imbecile!

#Facepalm

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Re: Season 8 Homepage II

Post by Sgt_Pooly on Mon 10 Aug 2015, 8:17 pm

Clark has been clean since he came back about 2 years ago. SL is big on players that clean up their act, Hartley & Tuilagi haven't.

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Post by Ozzy3213 on Mon 10 Aug 2015, 9:17 pm

Mate, he could be clean the rest of his life, he tried to break a mans arm on the field. In my view he's lucky to still be allowed to play.

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Post by dammit_chris on Mon 10 Aug 2015, 9:22 pm

Don't understand him at all Pete, can't work out what our tactics and approaches are to games anymore. Selections are baffling.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly on Wed 12 Aug 2015, 8:12 am

15-Zane Kirchner, 14-Lwazi Mvovo, 13-Jesse Kriel, 12-Damian de Allende, 11-Bryan Habana, 10-Pat Lambie, 9-Ruan Pienaar, 8-Schalk Burger, 7-Willem Alberts, 6-Heinrich Brussow, 5-Victor Matfield, 4-Eben Etzebeth, 3-Marcel van der Merwe, 2-Adriaan Strauss, 1-Trevor Nyakane.

Replacements: 16-Schalk Brits, 17-Tendai Mtawarira, 18-Frans Malherbe, 19-Flip van der Merwe, 20-Pieter-Steph du Toit, 21-Cobus Reinach, 22-Handre Pollard, 23-Jan Serfontein

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Re: Season 8 Homepage II

Post by BamBam on Wed 12 Aug 2015, 9:31 am

http://www.fijitimes.com/story.aspx?id=317501

Shocked

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Post by Steven_Sharks on Wed 12 Aug 2015, 9:58 am

This is going to be a huge test for SA. Massive. Argentina are favourites as they've strengthened there squad.

JMH, there 12 who I haven't seen much of and Bosch were brilliant as was Imhoff.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly on Wed 12 Aug 2015, 11:07 am

Their backline really clicked Steve, cracking performance. Ayerza had Koch on toast

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Post by Guest on Wed 12 Aug 2015, 11:17 am

Steven_Sharks wrote:This is going to be a huge test for SA. Massive. Argentina are favourites as they've strengthened there squad.

JMH, there 12 who I haven't seen much of and Bosch were brilliant as was Imhoff.


Meyer has certainly rotated here. That is a really poor back 3.

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Post by BamBam on Wed 12 Aug 2015, 11:38 am

Won't be able to predict this weekend unless all teams are in by fairly early on tomorrow

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Post by Guest on Thu 13 Aug 2015, 12:02 am

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/rugbyunion/international/newzealand/11799478/End-of-an-All-Blacks-dynasty-in-sight.html

Interesting article. NZ in my lifetime have only once had a decline. as I posted a few months ago they have huge front row issues if woodcock and franks not firing. Coles is a great loose hooker but poor in tight and mealamu was shot 3 years ago so vulnerable.

Their media is worse than ours is with the national football side. Their scapegoating of SBW is a nonsense. He is high profile and seen as being not committed due to switching codes.

Yes he has not been great at all since back in s 15 or int rugby but the main issue on Saturday and vs boks was the pack and foundations.

Packs win matches and front row been poor. Retallick a way off last few years prob due to recovering from injury and Romano a squad player.

Throw in mccaw limping to retirement and read having a poor season and you find the answers.

The protection on
Smith at hb last week ensured that the backs could not play.

Look at pack first before blaming SBW

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Post by Guest on Thu 13 Aug 2015, 12:33 am

Just watched SA vs Arg. Wow that is some hiding Koch
Takes from ayerza. Absolutely vertical
Off his feet Koch.

He is only playing as malherbe, ousthuizen and du plessis not fit but rare to see that much of a hiding a int level.

Matera Bosch imhoff Hernandez and the Avril
Half cubille excellent

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Re: Season 8 Homepage II

Post by Sgt_Pooly on Thu 13 Aug 2015, 7:32 am

15 Ben Smith, 14 Nehe Milner-Skudder, 13 Conrad Smith, 12 Ma’a Nonu, 11 Julian Savea, 10 Dan Carter, 9 Aaron Smith, 8 Kieran Read, 7 Richie McCaw (captain), 6 Victor Vito, 5 Sam Whitelock, 4 Brodie Retallick, 3 Owen Franks, 2 Dane Coles, 1 Tony Woodcock.

Substitutes: 16 Keven Mealamu, 17 Wyatt Crockett, 18 Nepo Laulala, 19 Jerome Kaino, 20 Sam Cane, 21 TJ Perenara, 22 Colin Slade, 23 Malakai Fekitoa

Australia:
15-Israel Folau, 14-Adam Ashley-Cooper, 13-Tevita Kuridrani, 12-Matt Toomua, 11-Henry Speight, 10-Quade Cooper, 9-Nic White, 8-Wycliff Palu, 7-Michael Hooper, 6-Scott Fardy, 5-James Horwill 4-Will Skelton, 3-Sekope Kepu, 2-Stephen Moore (captain), 1-Scott Sio

Substitutes: 16-Tatafu Polota-Nau, 17-James Slipper, 18-Greg Holmes, 19-Dean Mumm, 20-Kane Douglas, 21-David Pocock, 22-Matt Giteau, 23-Kurtley Beale

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Post by Guest on Thu 13 Aug 2015, 9:14 am

Interesting sides. Aussies look strong again and kiwis look better for vito and Whitelock.

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Post by Guest on Thu 13 Aug 2015, 12:38 pm

Fantasy World Cup squad

Pretty interesting read http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/rugbyunion/rugby-world-cup/11800476/Rugby-World-Cup-2015-fantasy-squad-by-Steve-James.html?image=0&service=mobile&mobile=true&smart=1

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Post by LukeLovesLuka on Thu 13 Aug 2015, 12:41 pm

Yeh looked at that earlier. Few missing but wouldn't be a bad squad!

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Post by Fluxy on Thu 13 Aug 2015, 1:06 pm

The good one is to make a side by only selecting one lad from each nation can be quite fun!

1. Logovii Mulipola (SAM)
2. Bismarck Du Plessis (RSA)
3. Ramiro Herrera (ARG)
4. Samu Manoa (USA)
5. Jamie Cudmore (CAN)
6. Mamuka Gorgodze (GEO)
7. Jacques Burger (NAM)
8. Sergio Parisse (ITA)

9. Connor Murray (IRL)
10. Finn Russell (SCO)
11. Julien Savea (NZ)
12. Wesley Fofana (FRA)
13. Jonathan Davies (WEL)
14. Nemani Nadolo (FIJ)
15. Israel Folau (AUS)

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Re: Season 8 Homepage II

Post by Guest on Thu 13 Aug 2015, 1:07 pm

No Englishman in that side fluffy

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Post by Guest on Thu 13 Aug 2015, 1:08 pm

Fluxy that should have read.
That's a seriously beefy second row

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Post by Fluxy on Thu 13 Aug 2015, 1:15 pm

Ah I was trying to save one for prop, I'd have Marler in ahead of Mulipola!

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Post by Steven_Sharks on Thu 13 Aug 2015, 1:20 pm

1. Soane Tonga'uhia (Ton)
2. Agustin Creevy (Arg)
3. Davit Zhirivashvili (Geo)
4. Samu Manoa (US)
5. Joe Tekori (Sam)
6. Willem Alberts (SA)
7. Michael Hooper (Oz)
8. Sergio Parisse(Ita)
9. Aaron Smith (NZ)
10. Jonny Sexton (Ire)
11. Nemani Nadolo (Fij)
12. Wesley Fofana (Fra)
13. Jonathan Joseph (Eng)
14. George North (Wal)
15. Stuart Hogg (Sco)

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Post by Fluxy on Thu 13 Aug 2015, 1:23 pm

Hibbard dropped from wales squad.

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Post by Steven_Sharks on Thu 13 Aug 2015, 1:24 pm

http://www.planetrugby.com/story/0,25883,3551_70091,00.html

Hook and Phillips as well as Hibbard.

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Post by Guest on Thu 13 Aug 2015, 1:49 pm

Think you will find Hibbard has been cut for behavioural issues and not rugby reasons

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