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Post by Fluxy on Sun 09 Aug 2015, 1:25 pm

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Welcome to Season 8 of the Aviva Premiership fantasy rugby game.  Below are the rules of the game which must be adhered to.  If there are any situations that arise in the course of the game which are not covered by the rules, a final decision will be made by the RFU (SJE) as to how the situation will be resolved.


Senior Squads wrote:
The maximum squad size is 40 senior players.  If a team has more than 40 players in their squad then they will be fined £1 million per player over the permitted amounts per day for the first seven days. If after 7 consecutive days a team still has more than the permitted number of players then the team will be fined £2 million per player per day, and fined 1 league point per player per day for the next seven days. If after this time a team still has more than the permitted number of players in their squad, the RFU (SJE) will remove players at its discretion to bring them back under the permitted numbers. There will be no right of appeal to players being removed.

Be aware that all tier one international matches which are played during the season will count in the game, and players selected in the match day 23's for those matches will not be eligible to play for their clubs on that weekend, therefore you must give due consideration to the make-up of your squad.
Academy Rules wrote:
Each team will be allowed to have an academy squad of 23 players.  Players who are in the academy must be born on or after 1st September 1993.

Any player, who is at any Premiership club in real life, either in their senior, academy or AASE squads, can be bid for on the domestic bidding page. Players who are at your own club in real life and are coming through the academy system must be bid for if you want them in your own academy.
Transfers wrote:

  • Domestic (other AP Teams)
    Each team has a budget to use in the purchase of players. Domestic transfers between AP clubs, regardless of nationality of player, should be negotiated between the respective managers, and then confirmed on the Domestic Transfer Confirmation Page.
  • Domestic (Championship and below)
    Each team may during the season purchase no more than 5 players from the Championship or the National Leagues. Worcester Warriors & London Wasps will receive two additional bids to be used exclusively on academy age players. These players must be bid for on the National League Bidding page, and each bid will be considered by the RFU on its own merits before being accepted or rejected.  No bid will be accepted until a minimum of 24 hours has elapsed from the time the bid was made, in order to afford other managers the opportunity to make a counter bid.
  • Foreign
    To make a foreign transfer (i.e. from any club outside of the AP, regardless of whether the player is English) a bid should be made on the Foreign Transfers Page, which will be considered by the RFU against the posted guidelines for purchase prices before being accepted or rejected. No bid will be accepted until a minimum of 24 hours has elapsed from the time the bid was made, in order to afford other managers the opportunity to make a counter bid.

    There will be a summer foreign transfer window, which will run as follows.
    Player Draft
    Worcester Warriors & London Wasps will participate in a player draft beginning the week of June 22nd. Both sides will be allowed to draft two players each. The draft picks will go as follows; 1. Worcester 2. Wasps 3. Wasps 4. Worcester.

    Round Bidding
    There will be two rounds of bidding. The first window will run the week starting June 29th and the second the week starting July 3rd. All sides will be allowed to sign one player each during the window. These bids are not protected if you do not have the funds in place to bid during the window you will lose the bid.    

    Open Bidding
    From July 13th the foreign market will be open to all bids similar to previous seasons. Due to the world cup the window will remain open till the end of September.

Player Releases wrote:
Managers may choose to release players from their clubs, for which they will be offered compensation

Compensation will be paid as follows

£2 million – current international (must have played international rugby in the previous 12 months)
£1.5 million – former international
£1m – top flight experience
£0.5m – other

All released players will be deemed to have joined a Championship side and can be bid for on the National League Bidding page.
Retirements wrote:
There will be no compensation for retiring players.  Should a player who retires decide to come out of retirement and play again, then he will automatically go back to the club who he was playing for in the game when he retired.
Fixtures wrote:
There will be 22 Aviva Premiership games per season, plus the play offs. There will also be European Rugby Champions Cup, European Rugby Challenge Cup and Anglo Welsh Cup matches.  These games will take place once a week. A match thread will be put up every Monday. Home teams must be named by midnight on Tuesday. Away teams must be named by midnight on Wednesday. Failure to meet these deadlines is punishable by the addition of three match points to the oppositions final score, unless both sides fail to do so. Both teams must provide tactics by midnight on Thursday. Predictions will be open from 00:01 hours on Friday and remain open until 20:00 hours on Sunday. Managers will pm the scores that they think will happen from these games (apart from games in which they are involved).  An average of all predictions will be taken, and then 0.5 points added to each teams score for each prediction that had them as the winner, and that will then be the final score.

Managers are asked to provide detail as to why they have predicted a result.  To be considered a descriptive prediction this must be a full 3 lines long when entered into the text box.
Teams wrote:
When naming your team, not only should you put the starting XV and replacements, but also tactics that your team will employ. Results will be affected by the tactics described.

In addition, each team must have the following:-

For domestic competition at least 8 England qualified players in your match day 23, and at least 4 of those must be in your starting XV.

For European competition at least 8 England qualified players in your match day 23, and at least 6 of those must be in your starting XV.

At least 2 props and 1 hooker on the bench.

All players must be eligible (not injured or banned).

Failure to comply with these rules will result in a 1 league point deduction.

If you fail to submit a team for a match, then the other team will be automatically awarded a 30-0 bonus point win. If both teams fail to submit a team, then it will be scored as a 0-0 draw.
Injuries and Suspensions wrote:
Injuries in this game do NOT reflect real life, they will be generated by me.

Players banned in real life will be ineligible for selection in this game for the duration of the ban.

Inclusion of injured/banned players will result in them being replaced by players on the bench, and the bench not having eight players, which may result in punishment if it concerns the front-row.

Punishment for fielding an ineligible player will be loss of one match point.
Financial Rewards wrote:
There will be no rewards for the result of an individual match, instead the managers will receive cash for predicting.

£2m for descriptive predictions
£0.25m for scores on the doors predictions
Bonuses will be awarded on a scaled basis i.e. 2m for 5 games, 1.6m for 4 games and so on
If you fail to predict without first advising me that you are unable to do so that week, you will be fined £1m for a first offence, £2m for a second offence, £3m for a third offence etc upto a maximum of £5m per fine.

AP finishing positions.

Champions: 8m
Runners Up: 6m
Playoff Semi Finalist Losers: 5m
5th: 4m
6th: 3.5m
7th: 3m
8th: 2.5m
9th: 2m
10th: 1.5m
11th: 1m
12th: 0.5m

Heineken Cup

Losing Quarter Finalists - £2 million each
Losing Semi Finalists - £3 million each
Runners Up - £4 million
Champions - £5 million

Amlin Challenge Cup

Losing Quarter Finalists - £1 million each
Losing Semi Finalists - £2 million each
Runners Up - £3 million
Champions - £4 million

Anglo-Welsh Cup

Losing Semi Finalist - £1 million each
Runners Up - £2 million
Champions - £3 million


If your budgets falls below minus £10 million for any reason, the administrators (SJE) will step in and players from within your squad will be released for the relevant financial compensation (foreign transfer value) in order to bring your budget back above minus £10 million.


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Re: Season 8 Homepage II

Post by Ozzy3213 on Sun 16 Aug 2015, 8:07 am

Whilst it was a poor decision from Wood not to kick for goal, you can't the captain for LCD's inability to throw straight.
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Re: Season 8 Homepage II

Post by Guest on Sun 16 Aug 2015, 8:43 am

The throwing was poor indeed Pete but if someone is having a mare with their darts you call a few to the front so they get their eye in.
Even a captain of an under 12s team would know that. Really odd to keep calling long.
Young and on debut the nerves are jangling and a few easy balls calms them down


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Re: Season 8 Homepage II

Post by Sgt_Pooly on Sun 16 Aug 2015, 9:15 am

Ozzy3213 wrote:Whilst it was a poor decision from Wood not to kick for goal, you can't the captain for LCD's inability to throw straight.

It was always going to be an issue, he's got an awful throw. He shouldn't be throwing to the front, he needed to be tested. We now know he's not up to it.

I wouldn't say May was "outstanding", he was effective and solid. Watson was impressive.

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Post by prop_lyd on Sun 16 Aug 2015, 9:36 am

I think both the hooker and the guy calling the lineouts were equally to blame, if confidence is low the hooker should say give me an easy one and the person calling should notice if their head drops. This really isn't something that should be happening at international level though
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Post by Sgt_Pooly on Sun 16 Aug 2015, 9:38 am

He needed to be tested Prop. Throwing bankers to the front wouldn't have shown us much (he'd have probably missed anyway). He's had a shot and shown he's nowhere near ready for this level, this is what these games are for.

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Post by Guest on Sun 16 Aug 2015, 9:48 am

prop_lyd wrote:I think both the hooker and the guy calling the lineouts were equally to blame, if confidence is low the hooker should say give me an easy one and the person calling should notice if their head drops. This really isn't something that should be happening at international level though


100% correct.

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Re: Season 8 Homepage II

Post by dammit_chris on Sun 16 Aug 2015, 9:51 am

Considering how much was made out of the Burgess/Slade combination before the game I thought they both had excellent debuts.

Aside from the Burgess yellow he just seemed to offer us a presence and leadership on the pitch and we've lacked that in the backs. Slade probably should have picked up a yellow as well, but was very impressed with his distribution and decision making.

Potentially found two guys who can really step up there - can see Lancaster taking them both with Cipriani being the guy who misses out.

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Post by dammit_chris on Sun 16 Aug 2015, 10:06 am

May was brilliant yesterday, great to see him back with confidence. Our whole back three was good, give May or Watson a gap and there aren't many who can catch them.

Was impressed with our backs.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly on Sun 16 Aug 2015, 10:17 am

May was decent.

Burgess looked lost. He made a few big hits and carried well but looked positionally out of sorts. He just followed the ball rather than playing a position. He's nowhere near ready for Int rugby.

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Post by Guest on Sun 16 Aug 2015, 10:27 am

http://www.theguardian.com/sport/2015/aug/15/world-cup-warmup-england-player-ratings


Very accurate ratings for me.

Mako struggled vs Mas and Clark discipline dreadful and one of the many reasons he should never be near an england squad

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Post by Guest on Sun 16 Aug 2015, 10:29 am

I thought it was a good debut from burgess and bodes well for future. I do think the World Cup has come maybe 6 months too soon for him.

Slade looked natural and has that awareness of space you can't coach. A really exciting talent

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Post by Sgt_Pooly on Sun 16 Aug 2015, 10:31 am

LCD a 6??? He should be a 2 and no more. A hooker who can't throw is useless. He didn't even get close.

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Re: Season 8 Homepage II

Post by dammit_chris on Sun 16 Aug 2015, 10:46 am

Sgt_Pooly wrote:May was decent.

Burgess looked lost. He made a few big hits and carried well but looked positionally out of sorts. He just followed the ball rather than playing a position. He's nowhere near ready for Int rugby.

Lost? He's had very positive reviews from all the papers I've seen - we were looking for some physicality in midfield and he gave it. Personally thought he gave a good account of himself and can see Lancaster taking a gamble. Wilkinson was very positive about him as well.

We did well to win that game in the end, our pack took a little bit of a hiding in the second half.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly on Sun 16 Aug 2015, 10:53 am

I thought he looked lost positionally and brainless for the yellow.

He did some flashy things which caught the eye, but was all at sea positionally. If you watch him when we didn't have the ball you can see him struggling. He's just not a 12 and it's too early for him to be at this level.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly on Sun 16 Aug 2015, 2:22 pm

Dawson on Burgess, echoes my thoughts really.

However, Dawson believes that Burgess should miss out to accommodate Slade, saying: "You can't take him to the World Cup.

"Positionally he wasn't great. He played like a six rather than a 12."

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Re: Season 8 Homepage II

Post by Sgt_Pooly on Sun 16 Aug 2015, 4:28 pm

Good win for SA. Not seen the game yet but Mvovo and Lambie the best players apparently. Alberts came through unscathed.

http://m.news24.com/sport24/Rugby/Springboks/Lambie-Mvovo-impress-in-Argentina-20150816

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Post by Guest on Sun 16 Aug 2015, 4:38 pm

Argies played a weakened side with a lot of changes. They were never going to win with that side.

Lambie played well as did habana

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Post by Steven_Sharks on Sun 16 Aug 2015, 5:47 pm

I thought Argentina were stronger on paper this week than last

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Post by Guest on Sun 16 Aug 2015, 6:21 pm

Really Steve ? They made so many changes

No Ayerza, Herrera, matera, cubelli, the 12 or Bosch who are their key players

Etzbeth was everywhere yesterday and pienaar had his best game for a long time

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Post by Steven_Sharks on Sun 16 Aug 2015, 7:11 pm

Just had a look at a teamsheet and I've got mixed up. I thought they were stronger than they were

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Re: Season 8 Homepage II

Post by Driver on Mon 17 Aug 2015, 4:48 pm

Juan Pablo Socino named in RWC sqaud, he'll be a national league signing on here i believe
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Post by Sgt_Pooly on Mon 17 Aug 2015, 5:03 pm

He'd be a foreign I think Driver as he's not EQ.

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Post by Steven_Sharks on Mon 17 Aug 2015, 5:14 pm

Has he been in the league already?

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Post by Sgt_Pooly on Mon 17 Aug 2015, 5:22 pm

Not that I'm aware of Steve

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Post by dammit_chris on Mon 17 Aug 2015, 7:47 pm

I had him when he was at Nottingham ages and ages ago, but he didn't get any ratings and wasn't snapped up by an AP team as he was rumoured to at the time.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly on Mon 17 Aug 2015, 7:54 pm

That must have been a while ago Chris

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Post by dammit_chris on Mon 17 Aug 2015, 7:57 pm

Was the season when he first went from Rotherham to Nottingham, so must be around 2011. So quite some time!

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Post by Sgt_Pooly on Mon 17 Aug 2015, 8:16 pm

He's a tidy player but I doubt he'd be good enough for any squad on here.

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Post by dammit_chris on Mon 17 Aug 2015, 8:55 pm

He's improving a lot at the moment though and covers quite a few positions - but tend to agree with you, although a good WC and could be a cheap signing.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly on Mon 17 Aug 2015, 9:02 pm

I wouldn't play him anywhere but 12 tbh, his distribution isn't the greatest. He's a great little carrier and is solid in defence.

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Re: Season 8 Homepage II

Post by BamBam on Tue 18 Aug 2015, 1:48 pm

The Mail reckon the England side is going to be

Brown
Nowell
Joseph
Burrell
May
Ford
Youngs

Marler
Youngs
Cole
Lawes
Launchbury
Haskell
Robshaw
Vunipola

Bench - George, Brookes, Wilson, Attwood, Easter, Care, Cips, AN Other

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Post by Sgt_Pooly on Tue 18 Aug 2015, 1:54 pm

Full strength bar Watson?

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Post by BamBam on Tue 18 Aug 2015, 2:06 pm

Looks like it, possibly a shootout between Nowell and May for the other starting spot?

Brookes must be seen as possible loosehead cover, which means he's ahead of Corbs for the last prop place ..

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Post by Steven_Sharks on Tue 18 Aug 2015, 2:16 pm

Wood for Haskell, Watson for May and that's what I expect to start v Wales

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Post by BamBam on Tue 18 Aug 2015, 2:24 pm

Haskell did well off the bench on Saturday, if he puts in another good performance this week, then he'll be putting a hell of a lot of pressure on Wood, I think I'd lean towards Haskell tbh

Agree with Watson over May, would also prefer Barritt if he can get a game in before the tournament starts

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Post by Driver on Tue 18 Aug 2015, 2:28 pm

Need Barritt and Joseph to play together at least once!
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Post by BamBam on Tue 18 Aug 2015, 2:31 pm

Agree Driver, by the sounds of it he'll be ready for the Ireland game

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Post by Sgt_Pooly on Tue 18 Aug 2015, 2:33 pm

Steven_Sharks wrote:Wood for Haskell, Watson for May and that's what I expect to start v Wales

Not on the weekends performances.

Woods is woefully short on form. Do we keep him in for his line out or go for Haskell's physicality/breakdown work? Is Robshaw/Haskell enough in the lineout with Young's throwing?

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Post by Steven_Sharks on Tue 18 Aug 2015, 2:46 pm

I think Haskell will start v Fiji but Wood v Wales

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Post by dammit_chris on Tue 18 Aug 2015, 3:02 pm

Lancaster puts a lot of emphasis on the no6 having a key role in the lineout, Wood is better than Haskell there by quite some way. Am a big fan of Haskell but he's so prone to doing silly things and giving away penalties. He was also selected as captain by Lancaster in the event Robshaw gets injured, so would say Wood will start against Wales.

Have May ahead of Nowell now - they linked up perfectly together against France last week and very hard to defend against. May looked in great form and a threat each time he got the ball.

Wonder if Burgess will make the bench for another look.


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Post by BamBam on Tue 18 Aug 2015, 3:21 pm

Telegraph reckon Twelvetrees is the 3rd replacement back, so maybe not

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Post by Ozzy3213 on Tue 18 Aug 2015, 3:26 pm

I wonder if Burrell is playing for his place. Given that the squad is selected before we play Ireland, Bomber must have decided he's seem enough of Burgess and Slade to make the call.
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Post by Sgt_Pooly on Tue 18 Aug 2015, 3:29 pm

A big game from Nowell will nail the shirt.

Haskell seems to have a great game then a sub-standard one. Wood just seems to be bang off form, not sure what's going on with him.

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Post by Ozzy3213 on Tue 18 Aug 2015, 3:41 pm

The 5 back rowers will be Robshaw, Wood, Haskell, Morgan and Billy. I wonder whether we might see Billy at 6 at some point.
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Post by Sgt_Pooly on Tue 18 Aug 2015, 3:48 pm

It'd be an interesting option Pete

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Post by BamBam on Tue 18 Aug 2015, 3:50 pm

Its probably too late for Billy at 6 as an experiment, but if we have injuries in the back row, I'd prefer to see Billy at 6 than say, Lawes!

With Lawes/Launchbury around, we shouldn't lack for pace around the park either

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Post by Ozzy3213 on Tue 18 Aug 2015, 3:53 pm

Haskell is the ideal bench man as he's the only one who genuinely covers the whole back row. He is also all energy and generally makes an impact when brought on.
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Post by BamBam on Tue 18 Aug 2015, 4:05 pm

I'm leaning towards Haskell being the starter at the moment, and would prefer Morgan to be the impact sub. I think Wood either starts or is out of the 23, chances are he'll be starting

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Post by dammit_chris on Tue 18 Aug 2015, 4:40 pm

Really, Twelvetrees again - how many chances can you give a guy!?

Will be really interesting to see the combinations he goes for in midfield - Burrell and Joseph did well during 6Nations but I'm not sure Burrell is physical enough for his style to really make a difference against likes of NZ/SA.

Got to be tempted with taking Burrell, Barritt, Burgess, Slade and Joseph as the options, with Cipriani dropping out - can't see him looking for another back three player now, or taking Twelvetrees.

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Post by LukeLovesLuka on Tue 18 Aug 2015, 4:42 pm

Twelvetrees has started one game since last June, when we beat Australia in November .Hard to say he's had loads of chances of late.

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