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Post by Fluxy on Sun 09 Aug 2015, 1:25 pm

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Welcome to Season 8 of the Aviva Premiership fantasy rugby game.  Below are the rules of the game which must be adhered to.  If there are any situations that arise in the course of the game which are not covered by the rules, a final decision will be made by the RFU (SJE) as to how the situation will be resolved.


Senior Squads wrote:
The maximum squad size is 40 senior players.  If a team has more than 40 players in their squad then they will be fined £1 million per player over the permitted amounts per day for the first seven days. If after 7 consecutive days a team still has more than the permitted number of players then the team will be fined £2 million per player per day, and fined 1 league point per player per day for the next seven days. If after this time a team still has more than the permitted number of players in their squad, the RFU (SJE) will remove players at its discretion to bring them back under the permitted numbers. There will be no right of appeal to players being removed.

Be aware that all tier one international matches which are played during the season will count in the game, and players selected in the match day 23's for those matches will not be eligible to play for their clubs on that weekend, therefore you must give due consideration to the make-up of your squad.
Academy Rules wrote:
Each team will be allowed to have an academy squad of 23 players.  Players who are in the academy must be born on or after 1st September 1993.

Any player, who is at any Premiership club in real life, either in their senior, academy or AASE squads, can be bid for on the domestic bidding page. Players who are at your own club in real life and are coming through the academy system must be bid for if you want them in your own academy.
Transfers wrote:

  • Domestic (other AP Teams)
    Each team has a budget to use in the purchase of players. Domestic transfers between AP clubs, regardless of nationality of player, should be negotiated between the respective managers, and then confirmed on the Domestic Transfer Confirmation Page.
  • Domestic (Championship and below)
    Each team may during the season purchase no more than 5 players from the Championship or the National Leagues. Worcester Warriors & London Wasps will receive two additional bids to be used exclusively on academy age players. These players must be bid for on the National League Bidding page, and each bid will be considered by the RFU on its own merits before being accepted or rejected.  No bid will be accepted until a minimum of 24 hours has elapsed from the time the bid was made, in order to afford other managers the opportunity to make a counter bid.
  • Foreign
    To make a foreign transfer (i.e. from any club outside of the AP, regardless of whether the player is English) a bid should be made on the Foreign Transfers Page, which will be considered by the RFU against the posted guidelines for purchase prices before being accepted or rejected. No bid will be accepted until a minimum of 24 hours has elapsed from the time the bid was made, in order to afford other managers the opportunity to make a counter bid.

    There will be a summer foreign transfer window, which will run as follows.
    Player Draft
    Worcester Warriors & London Wasps will participate in a player draft beginning the week of June 22nd. Both sides will be allowed to draft two players each. The draft picks will go as follows; 1. Worcester 2. Wasps 3. Wasps 4. Worcester.

    Round Bidding
    There will be two rounds of bidding. The first window will run the week starting June 29th and the second the week starting July 3rd. All sides will be allowed to sign one player each during the window. These bids are not protected if you do not have the funds in place to bid during the window you will lose the bid.    

    Open Bidding
    From July 13th the foreign market will be open to all bids similar to previous seasons. Due to the world cup the window will remain open till the end of September.

Player Releases wrote:
Managers may choose to release players from their clubs, for which they will be offered compensation

Compensation will be paid as follows

£2 million – current international (must have played international rugby in the previous 12 months)
£1.5 million – former international
£1m – top flight experience
£0.5m – other

All released players will be deemed to have joined a Championship side and can be bid for on the National League Bidding page.
Retirements wrote:
There will be no compensation for retiring players.  Should a player who retires decide to come out of retirement and play again, then he will automatically go back to the club who he was playing for in the game when he retired.
Fixtures wrote:
There will be 22 Aviva Premiership games per season, plus the play offs. There will also be European Rugby Champions Cup, European Rugby Challenge Cup and Anglo Welsh Cup matches.  These games will take place once a week. A match thread will be put up every Monday. Home teams must be named by midnight on Tuesday. Away teams must be named by midnight on Wednesday. Failure to meet these deadlines is punishable by the addition of three match points to the oppositions final score, unless both sides fail to do so. Both teams must provide tactics by midnight on Thursday. Predictions will be open from 00:01 hours on Friday and remain open until 20:00 hours on Sunday. Managers will pm the scores that they think will happen from these games (apart from games in which they are involved).  An average of all predictions will be taken, and then 0.5 points added to each teams score for each prediction that had them as the winner, and that will then be the final score.

Managers are asked to provide detail as to why they have predicted a result.  To be considered a descriptive prediction this must be a full 3 lines long when entered into the text box.
Teams wrote:
When naming your team, not only should you put the starting XV and replacements, but also tactics that your team will employ. Results will be affected by the tactics described.

In addition, each team must have the following:-

For domestic competition at least 8 England qualified players in your match day 23, and at least 4 of those must be in your starting XV.

For European competition at least 8 England qualified players in your match day 23, and at least 6 of those must be in your starting XV.

At least 2 props and 1 hooker on the bench.

All players must be eligible (not injured or banned).

Failure to comply with these rules will result in a 1 league point deduction.

If you fail to submit a team for a match, then the other team will be automatically awarded a 30-0 bonus point win. If both teams fail to submit a team, then it will be scored as a 0-0 draw.
Injuries and Suspensions wrote:
Injuries in this game do NOT reflect real life, they will be generated by me.

Players banned in real life will be ineligible for selection in this game for the duration of the ban.

Inclusion of injured/banned players will result in them being replaced by players on the bench, and the bench not having eight players, which may result in punishment if it concerns the front-row.

Punishment for fielding an ineligible player will be loss of one match point.
Financial Rewards wrote:
There will be no rewards for the result of an individual match, instead the managers will receive cash for predicting.

£2m for descriptive predictions
£0.25m for scores on the doors predictions
Bonuses will be awarded on a scaled basis i.e. 2m for 5 games, 1.6m for 4 games and so on
If you fail to predict without first advising me that you are unable to do so that week, you will be fined £1m for a first offence, £2m for a second offence, £3m for a third offence etc upto a maximum of £5m per fine.

AP finishing positions.

Champions: 8m
Runners Up: 6m
Playoff Semi Finalist Losers: 5m
5th: 4m
6th: 3.5m
7th: 3m
8th: 2.5m
9th: 2m
10th: 1.5m
11th: 1m
12th: 0.5m

Heineken Cup

Losing Quarter Finalists - £2 million each
Losing Semi Finalists - £3 million each
Runners Up - £4 million
Champions - £5 million

Amlin Challenge Cup

Losing Quarter Finalists - £1 million each
Losing Semi Finalists - £2 million each
Runners Up - £3 million
Champions - £4 million

Anglo-Welsh Cup

Losing Semi Finalist - £1 million each
Runners Up - £2 million
Champions - £3 million


If your budgets falls below minus £10 million for any reason, the administrators (SJE) will step in and players from within your squad will be released for the relevant financial compensation (foreign transfer value) in order to bring your budget back above minus £10 million.


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Re: Season 8 Homepage II

Post by Sgt_Pooly on Sat 10 Oct 2015, 8:59 am

http://www.sportsmole.co.uk/rugby-union/england/news/england-approach-nick-mallett_251653.html#$$nvzvgt&&ozwfhm8kEeWDlxKp/GPoWQ$$

This surely can't be true??? He's about 10 years out of touch

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Re: Season 8 Homepage II

Post by Guest on Sat 10 Oct 2015, 9:51 am

More alarmingly he has said he has no interest

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Post by ChequeredJersey on Sat 10 Oct 2015, 10:59 am

So... Jake White and Eddie Jones express interests and we head for Mallett...
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Re: Season 8 Homepage II

Post by Sgt_Pooly on Sat 10 Oct 2015, 11:04 am

I'm not sure I'd like White, he's just a bit of mercenary. I couldn't imagine him staying past a few years.

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Re: Season 8 Homepage II

Post by Sgt_Pooly on Sat 10 Oct 2015, 11:06 am

Jared Payne ruled out of the WC

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Re: Season 8 Homepage II

Post by ChequeredJersey on Sat 10 Oct 2015, 12:05 pm

Is this where Ireland finally play Henshaw at 13?
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Post by Sgt_Pooly on Sat 10 Oct 2015, 12:31 pm

Cave to 13?

I think they'll miss Payne although he seems to be quite underrated.

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Re: Season 8 Homepage II

Post by LukeLovesLuka on Sat 10 Oct 2015, 3:30 pm

Cracking half of rugby. Fotuali'i on fire.

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Re: Season 8 Homepage II

Post by Sgt_Pooly on Sat 10 Oct 2015, 4:13 pm

Tony Woodcock retires (not sure if it's all rugby)

http://m.thenational.ae/sport/rugby/tony-woodcock-has-played-his-last-test-all-blacks-coach-confirms

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Re: Season 8 Homepage II

Post by Sgt_Pooly on Sat 10 Oct 2015, 4:18 pm

Looks like Scotland are through. Laidlaw has been great, good game.

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Re: Season 8 Homepage II

Post by BamBam on Sat 10 Oct 2015, 4:22 pm

Fantastic game to watch

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Re: Season 8 Homepage II

Post by LukeLovesLuka on Sat 10 Oct 2015, 5:23 pm

Folau needs to be taken off now.

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Re: Season 8 Homepage II

Post by Sgt_Pooly on Sat 10 Oct 2015, 5:24 pm

Looks off the pace, better safe than sorry. Not sure what Genia was trying to do there??

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Post by BamBam on Sat 10 Oct 2015, 6:25 pm

Unbelievable defensive passage from the Aussies down to 13 men

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Re: Season 8 Homepage II

Post by Sgt_Pooly on Sat 10 Oct 2015, 6:29 pm

Their defence and scrum has came on leaps since last year. They should really start Phipps though, works so much better with Foley getting the quick ball

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Post by prop_lyd on Sat 10 Oct 2015, 7:50 pm

Should have taken 3points when we got so many in a row
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Re: Season 8 Homepage II

Post by Sgt_Pooly on Sat 10 Oct 2015, 8:30 pm

This is painful to watch.

Our backs moves are so obvious, Ford so ponderous. We really lack imagination, how've we got so bad?

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Post by BamBam on Sat 10 Oct 2015, 8:40 pm

Our midfield is fookin awful

This selection is just ruddy stupid

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Post by Sgt_Pooly on Sat 10 Oct 2015, 8:43 pm

Awful, really bad.

Ford's confidence is completely shot, he doesn't know what to do.

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Re: Season 8 Homepage II

Post by prop_lyd on Sat 10 Oct 2015, 8:51 pm

You really should be ahead by more, too many standing out and not committing to rucks, Uruguay won about 3 pens for holding on.
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Re: Season 8 Homepage II

Post by Sgt_Pooly on Sat 10 Oct 2015, 8:58 pm

Breakdown work is dreadful

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Re: Season 8 Homepage II

Post by prop_lyd on Sat 10 Oct 2015, 9:18 pm

Haskell throwing a few away and conceding a few.from a welsh perspective I really hope Cuthbert doesn't get anywhere near the team again!
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Post by Sgt_Pooly on Sat 10 Oct 2015, 9:23 pm

He had a real off day Prop, looks short on confidence.

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Re: Season 8 Homepage II

Post by Sgt_Pooly on Sat 10 Oct 2015, 9:33 pm

Brown to the wing Sad

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Re: Season 8 Homepage II

Post by Sgt_Pooly on Sat 10 Oct 2015, 9:45 pm

Joseph and Brown.....our 2 top quality players.

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Re: Season 8 Homepage II

Post by prop_lyd on Sat 10 Oct 2015, 9:55 pm

Joseph would have made the difference against us if fit! What's up with ford and his kicking?!?!
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Post by Sgt_Pooly on Sat 10 Oct 2015, 9:58 pm

Dreadful Prop, he was awful tonight. I imagine it's a confidence thing, losing his spot earlier in the WC. SL has done him no favours, Mike Ford won't be happy

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Re: Season 8 Homepage II

Post by ChequeredJersey on Sat 10 Oct 2015, 11:45 pm

Reckon on my FB group that our players are avoiding contact with one eye on AP. Not on if true.


Good to see Easter get a few, thought Slade's hands and decision making were class.

That's about it on positives, Care had good moments.

Those backs need to have Ford on form/confident and not Frak about by Lancaster or another 10, Slade at 12, Manu at 13, Brown at FB
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Re: Season 8 Homepage II

Post by Guest on Sat 10 Oct 2015, 11:55 pm

Dreadful game. Slade quality but poor opposition. Can't tell anything from that except ford was low on confidence. Watson has most clean breaks in tournament. Australia defence immense. Fardy and sio superb again. Wales th all struggled. Sio is a gun loose head

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Re: Season 8 Homepage II

Post by Steven_Sharks on Sun 11 Oct 2015, 9:46 am

JJ and Brown. We have to build our backs around them

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Post by dammit_chris on Sun 11 Oct 2015, 10:20 am

We've actually got some really good backs - if Tuilagi comes back he gives us that gainline threat and we should look at converting him to a no12 as combining him and JJ with Ford's passing game would make us a big threat.

Would like to see us pick a bench that works - we have to include Slade there and find others who can make an impact.

Forwards need to find a few players with a bit more aggression and physicality - Hartley has got to come back straight away, need to look at Itoje and then decide what to do with the backrow - for me BV is the only one who did well at the WC and we should look at guys like Ewers and Clifford and hope that Burgess continues to progress as a no6 at Bath.

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Re: Season 8 Homepage II

Post by Sgt_Pooly on Sun 11 Oct 2015, 10:36 am

I wouldn't pin hopes on Burgess with the RL talk.

Slade could be the answer at 10, he looks very composed and Ford has just failed to deliver. JJ is nailed on at 13 so it's building around that.

10. Slade
12. Tuilagi
13. JJ

Is pretty exciting. The problem we've had is when we lose an option in midfield then we seem lost.

I'm not sure Hartley should come back, I'd be happy with George going forward. He adds more around the park and is good in the set piece.

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Re: Season 8 Homepage II

Post by Sgt_Pooly on Sun 11 Oct 2015, 10:52 am

Liam Williams out of the WC....poor Wales

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Re: Season 8 Homepage II

Post by BamBam on Sun 11 Oct 2015, 10:55 am

Devastated for them

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Post by BamBam on Sun 11 Oct 2015, 10:55 am

Wink

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Post by BamBam on Sun 11 Oct 2015, 10:56 am

Although I'm firmly expecting to hear how they would have won every game 50-0 without injuries for the next 4 years

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Re: Season 8 Homepage II

Post by Sgt_Pooly on Sun 11 Oct 2015, 10:57 am

Not all Welsh fans are like those on the main board Bam Wink

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Post by dammit_chris on Sun 11 Oct 2015, 11:46 am

For me Ford is the no10 we build our backline on - his distribution and man management in games is usually spot on. Just feel that Lancaster and his coaching team have just given our backline no real direction.

We panicked when we didnt have Tuilagi with the Burgess selection as just lacked a physical presence and tbh Burrell could have done the job there during the WC - I''d much prefer Slade as the no12 option.

With the wings we have we've got to get a gainline breaker in the midfield - Tuilagi is back around December, will make our backline very different.

Personally would go

9. Care 10. Ford 11. May 12. Tuilagi 13. Joseph 14. Watson 15. Brown
with Simpson, Slade and a guy who can cover wing/fb as a utility back, maybe Nowell.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly on Sun 11 Oct 2015, 12:03 pm

Simpson........no!!!!!!! We need scrum halfs who can pass!

Ford just hadn't really delivered when it's mattered. He's still a lad end of the day but Slade has a better all round game for me.

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Post by dammit_chris on Sun 11 Oct 2015, 12:10 pm

Is that why we keep picking Youngs at no9 lol. He's the most frustrating player, he can be amazing one week and then just look terrible the next. Might be a little harsh as was clearly carrying an injury vs Australia.

When was Ford asked to deliver when it mattered though? Dropped for the Wales game and the Aussie game - only game he didnt was against Ireland in the 6Nations, but then no one in our team did. Slade will need to make the no10 shirt his own at Exeter if he's to stand a chance.

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Re: Season 8 Homepage II

Post by Steven_Sharks on Sun 11 Oct 2015, 12:21 pm

Scrum was a concern. It was shown to be weak when it mattered. Sio and Kepu aren't suddenly world beaters but we were embarrassed. 

Parling, Barritt, Goode, Haskell and Easter I'd move on from. Keep Wood and Robshaw but I think only one can play. Need options to start showing themselves on the flanks.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly on Sun 11 Oct 2015, 12:25 pm

Youngs is much better than Simpson, c'mon Chris Wink

I'm not saying bin Ford, he's great on the front foot. I just think Slade can go further. He's a better defender and goal kicker for starts but I'd have no issue with Ford off the bench.

9. Youngs
10. Slade
11. Nowell/May
12. Tuilagi
13. Joseph
14. Watson
15. Brown

21. Care
22. Ford
23. May/Nowell

With Hill, Devoto, Daly working with the squad.

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Post by Steven_Sharks on Sun 11 Oct 2015, 1:07 pm

Don't thing Youngs should be continued with. Scrum half becoming a problem position.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly on Sun 11 Oct 2015, 1:09 pm

Agree he's inconsistent Steve but he's quality on his day.

I'd look at bringing a younger option in like Robson to compete with Care and Youngs.

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Post by Driver on Sun 11 Oct 2015, 1:15 pm

I hope Matt Kvesic and Will Fraser can get a serious look in
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Re: Season 8 Homepage II

Post by dammit_chris on Sun 11 Oct 2015, 1:22 pm

Simpson's bench warmer you'd have in the England squad? Very Happy

No9 is an issue, Youngs should be brilliant but crazy inconsistency - not sure what causes it. I think Care is our best bet, but would love to see Simpson given a go as an impact sub from the bench - his form from last year deserves it.

Scrum definitely an issue Steve, I think it can be fixed just by bringing Hartley back as that way you get his scrummaging power and don't need Parling as that way you get Lawes and Launchbury, who both add a lot more. Just wish Corbs had an injury free run.

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Post by dammit_chris on Sun 11 Oct 2015, 1:25 pm

Driver, would be good to see an out and out no7 - one I think could be very good is Clifford at Quins. But that will depend on whether he gets gametime for Quins there and they move Robshaw back to no6.

Also agree with you Steve, think we can only play one of Wood and Robshaw, don't think they work well together at all.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly on Sun 11 Oct 2015, 2:18 pm

Lawes doesn't add much to the scrum, he's not going to help. Hartley would as Youngs is tiny but I think that ship has sailed.

Robson is 23 and a good all rounder. No point getting Simpson involved, he's 27 and can't pass, he's not getting any better.

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Post by ChequeredJersey on Sun 11 Oct 2015, 2:54 pm

Clifford can play across the backrow, not sure where Conor thinks his best position is yet. I expect him to play alongside Robshaw on the flanks mostly but he'll cover Easter as well

Would love Fraser to stay fit
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Post by ChequeredJersey on Sun 11 Oct 2015, 2:59 pm

I joked about this pack to purely dominate the breakdown elsewhere, and it is a joke but it would be an interesting experiment...

1- Marler if he learns to scrum again, or Mako
2- Ward or Youngs if either learns to throw ever
3- Cole if he learns to scrum again
4- Launchbury
5- Itoje
6- Robshaw
7- Armitage playing at an English club (failing that, Fraser)
8- Hughes

Dominate the breakdown

Bench Mullan, George, Brookes, Garvey, Vunipola/Croft or something like that.

Awful lineout on the starting pack though
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