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Post by Fluxy on Sun 09 Aug 2015, 1:25 pm

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Welcome to Season 8 of the Aviva Premiership fantasy rugby game.  Below are the rules of the game which must be adhered to.  If there are any situations that arise in the course of the game which are not covered by the rules, a final decision will be made by the RFU (SJE) as to how the situation will be resolved.


Senior Squads wrote:
The maximum squad size is 40 senior players.  If a team has more than 40 players in their squad then they will be fined £1 million per player over the permitted amounts per day for the first seven days. If after 7 consecutive days a team still has more than the permitted number of players then the team will be fined £2 million per player per day, and fined 1 league point per player per day for the next seven days. If after this time a team still has more than the permitted number of players in their squad, the RFU (SJE) will remove players at its discretion to bring them back under the permitted numbers. There will be no right of appeal to players being removed.

Be aware that all tier one international matches which are played during the season will count in the game, and players selected in the match day 23's for those matches will not be eligible to play for their clubs on that weekend, therefore you must give due consideration to the make-up of your squad.
Academy Rules wrote:
Each team will be allowed to have an academy squad of 23 players.  Players who are in the academy must be born on or after 1st September 1993.

Any player, who is at any Premiership club in real life, either in their senior, academy or AASE squads, can be bid for on the domestic bidding page. Players who are at your own club in real life and are coming through the academy system must be bid for if you want them in your own academy.
Transfers wrote:

  • Domestic (other AP Teams)
    Each team has a budget to use in the purchase of players. Domestic transfers between AP clubs, regardless of nationality of player, should be negotiated between the respective managers, and then confirmed on the Domestic Transfer Confirmation Page.
  • Domestic (Championship and below)
    Each team may during the season purchase no more than 5 players from the Championship or the National Leagues. Worcester Warriors & London Wasps will receive two additional bids to be used exclusively on academy age players. These players must be bid for on the National League Bidding page, and each bid will be considered by the RFU on its own merits before being accepted or rejected.  No bid will be accepted until a minimum of 24 hours has elapsed from the time the bid was made, in order to afford other managers the opportunity to make a counter bid.
  • Foreign
    To make a foreign transfer (i.e. from any club outside of the AP, regardless of whether the player is English) a bid should be made on the Foreign Transfers Page, which will be considered by the RFU against the posted guidelines for purchase prices before being accepted or rejected. No bid will be accepted until a minimum of 24 hours has elapsed from the time the bid was made, in order to afford other managers the opportunity to make a counter bid.

    There will be a summer foreign transfer window, which will run as follows.
    Player Draft
    Worcester Warriors & London Wasps will participate in a player draft beginning the week of June 22nd. Both sides will be allowed to draft two players each. The draft picks will go as follows; 1. Worcester 2. Wasps 3. Wasps 4. Worcester.

    Round Bidding
    There will be two rounds of bidding. The first window will run the week starting June 29th and the second the week starting July 3rd. All sides will be allowed to sign one player each during the window. These bids are not protected if you do not have the funds in place to bid during the window you will lose the bid.    

    Open Bidding
    From July 13th the foreign market will be open to all bids similar to previous seasons. Due to the world cup the window will remain open till the end of September.

Player Releases wrote:
Managers may choose to release players from their clubs, for which they will be offered compensation

Compensation will be paid as follows

£2 million – current international (must have played international rugby in the previous 12 months)
£1.5 million – former international
£1m – top flight experience
£0.5m – other

All released players will be deemed to have joined a Championship side and can be bid for on the National League Bidding page.
Retirements wrote:
There will be no compensation for retiring players.  Should a player who retires decide to come out of retirement and play again, then he will automatically go back to the club who he was playing for in the game when he retired.
Fixtures wrote:
There will be 22 Aviva Premiership games per season, plus the play offs. There will also be European Rugby Champions Cup, European Rugby Challenge Cup and Anglo Welsh Cup matches.  These games will take place once a week. A match thread will be put up every Monday. Home teams must be named by midnight on Tuesday. Away teams must be named by midnight on Wednesday. Failure to meet these deadlines is punishable by the addition of three match points to the oppositions final score, unless both sides fail to do so. Both teams must provide tactics by midnight on Thursday. Predictions will be open from 00:01 hours on Friday and remain open until 20:00 hours on Sunday. Managers will pm the scores that they think will happen from these games (apart from games in which they are involved).  An average of all predictions will be taken, and then 0.5 points added to each teams score for each prediction that had them as the winner, and that will then be the final score.

Managers are asked to provide detail as to why they have predicted a result.  To be considered a descriptive prediction this must be a full 3 lines long when entered into the text box.
Teams wrote:
When naming your team, not only should you put the starting XV and replacements, but also tactics that your team will employ. Results will be affected by the tactics described.

In addition, each team must have the following:-

For domestic competition at least 8 England qualified players in your match day 23, and at least 4 of those must be in your starting XV.

For European competition at least 8 England qualified players in your match day 23, and at least 6 of those must be in your starting XV.

At least 2 props and 1 hooker on the bench.

All players must be eligible (not injured or banned).

Failure to comply with these rules will result in a 1 league point deduction.

If you fail to submit a team for a match, then the other team will be automatically awarded a 30-0 bonus point win. If both teams fail to submit a team, then it will be scored as a 0-0 draw.
Injuries and Suspensions wrote:
Injuries in this game do NOT reflect real life, they will be generated by me.

Players banned in real life will be ineligible for selection in this game for the duration of the ban.

Inclusion of injured/banned players will result in them being replaced by players on the bench, and the bench not having eight players, which may result in punishment if it concerns the front-row.

Punishment for fielding an ineligible player will be loss of one match point.
Financial Rewards wrote:
There will be no rewards for the result of an individual match, instead the managers will receive cash for predicting.

£2m for descriptive predictions
£0.25m for scores on the doors predictions
Bonuses will be awarded on a scaled basis i.e. 2m for 5 games, 1.6m for 4 games and so on
If you fail to predict without first advising me that you are unable to do so that week, you will be fined £1m for a first offence, £2m for a second offence, £3m for a third offence etc upto a maximum of £5m per fine.

AP finishing positions.

Champions: 8m
Runners Up: 6m
Playoff Semi Finalist Losers: 5m
5th: 4m
6th: 3.5m
7th: 3m
8th: 2.5m
9th: 2m
10th: 1.5m
11th: 1m
12th: 0.5m

Heineken Cup

Losing Quarter Finalists - £2 million each
Losing Semi Finalists - £3 million each
Runners Up - £4 million
Champions - £5 million

Amlin Challenge Cup

Losing Quarter Finalists - £1 million each
Losing Semi Finalists - £2 million each
Runners Up - £3 million
Champions - £4 million

Anglo-Welsh Cup

Losing Semi Finalist - £1 million each
Runners Up - £2 million
Champions - £3 million


If your budgets falls below minus £10 million for any reason, the administrators (SJE) will step in and players from within your squad will be released for the relevant financial compensation (foreign transfer value) in order to bring your budget back above minus £10 million.


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Re: Season 8 Homepage II

Post by BamBam on Fri 21 Aug 2015, 10:49 pm

Hope all is well Ozzy

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Post by Sgt_Pooly on Fri 21 Aug 2015, 11:14 pm

Hope all is well Pete

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Post by ChequeredJersey on Fri 21 Aug 2015, 11:29 pm

Best of luck and hope all goes well, Pete. If it makes you feel any better, appendices are usually very safe
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Post by Guest on Fri 21 Aug 2015, 11:53 pm

Sgt_Pooly wrote:It doesn't take much too guess that LCD won't be in the squad. That was one of the worst hooking displays I've ever seen at Int level, the boy can't throw unfortunately.


Hardly worst performance lol missed 2 lineouts was successful in 2 and won penalties. A poor debut but a way away from a luaki

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Post by Driver on Sat 22 Aug 2015, 9:44 am

Hawkes bays 10 is one rapid little ginger
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Post by Sgt_Pooly on Sat 22 Aug 2015, 9:47 am

I can't think of a worse Int hooking performance Matt, his throwing was horrendous. He got nowhere near his target, he's just a very poor thrower who needs a lot of work.

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Post by Steven_Sharks on Sat 22 Aug 2015, 6:30 pm

That's ihaia west. Available in releases

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Post by Guest on Sat 22 Aug 2015, 7:09 pm

He is quality and will kick on this year. 22 is often when players come through

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Post by Guest on Sat 22 Aug 2015, 8:14 pm

Stupid by Cole he is a penalty machine at int level. Does
So much good stuff but never learns at breakdown. Having a tough time vs arous also.
Arous is top drawer.

Awful captaincy robshaw we need to settle and get platform
That quick kick was nonsense.

Ford needs to get his head In this as he has been awful. We start poorly so often

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Post by Guest on Sat 22 Aug 2015, 8:15 pm

Our breakdown discipline is poor again, same as last week

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Post by Guest on Sat 22 Aug 2015, 8:20 pm

This is dire we are being pummelled up front. Haskell and BV why give them another kick at goal.

Discipline shocking. Peyper is
A great ref and we have him vs Fiji so need to
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Post by Guest on Sat 22 Aug 2015, 8:22 pm

Great tackle Haskell.
Youngs not straight ?????????. Come on boys this is as bad as I have seen us.

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Post by Guest on Sat 22 Aug 2015, 8:53 pm

Hartleys exclusion looking baffling. Youngs been great in defence but dreadful at lineouts. Could have been had for not straight for that robshaw front ball and one other

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Post by Guest on Sat 22 Aug 2015, 8:53 pm

Get George on now

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Post by Sgt_Pooly on Sat 22 Aug 2015, 9:06 pm

This is awful, all bad so far

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Post by Driver on Sat 22 Aug 2015, 9:07 pm

What a try France, forwards awful here.
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Post by Sgt_Pooly on Sat 22 Aug 2015, 9:08 pm

Youngs is having a bloody mare in the line out

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Post by Guest on Sat 22 Aug 2015, 9:10 pm

Tom
Youngs has thrown worse
Than LCD. Less than 50% LCD was 50%.

George can nail it here if he perfoms. Good basics hooker generally but let's see under pressure

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Post by Guest on Sat 22 Aug 2015, 9:13 pm

Sgt_Pooly wrote:This is awful, all bad so far


Our big alleged usp is our pack and physicality. Both games we
Have been dominated.

Launch is feeling his way back and will be better for the outing.

Ben arous has been exceptional and Slimani gone well.

Guirado so much better in tight than he was.

Our lack of carrying is worrying. BV not done any hard yards

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Post by Guest on Sat 22 Aug 2015, 9:14 pm

Tillous borde is quality and makes a team play at pace. Great kicking game.
After Murray best
In NH

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Post by Sgt_Pooly on Sat 22 Aug 2015, 9:16 pm

Nobody has showed up, very worrying

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Post by Guest on Sat 22 Aug 2015, 9:20 pm

Without getting too over the top after one poor game this has reinforced all the issues I have said we would have over the last few years.

The lack of a proper 7, tactical kicking game and both Youngs basics. Tom throwing in was pub level. Ben kicking and passing same.

Platform is everything and the main issue is up front. Our front row been hammered in scrum and lineout. Breakdown been awful. George missed all lineouts. Can anyone in
England throw in?? Prop fancy turning out for england

Backs can only play with ball given
And our pack poor in both games

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Post by Guest on Sat 22 Aug 2015, 9:23 pm

France looking fit and good
For WC. Also playing more rugby. Huget world class and pickles and arous pick of forwards.

When France get it right can
Beat anyone.
This is a serious power performance. George under so much pressure because th getting screwed that he cannot hook his
Leg. It is due to
Pressure going through his shoulder
From
Opposition hooker and lh which the england th is
Meant to take away

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Post by Guest on Sat 22 Aug 2015, 9:24 pm

Sgt_Pooly wrote:Nobody has showed up, very worrying

100% agree. No bright spot at all

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Post by Guest on Sat 22 Aug 2015, 9:26 pm

We are now throwing on subs into a hopeless situation

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Post by Guest on Sat 22 Aug 2015, 9:28 pm

Sgt_Pooly wrote:I can't think of a worse Int hooking performance Matt, his throwing was horrendous. He got nowhere near his target, he's just a very poor thrower who needs a lot of work.


George is running him close missing all lineouts and giving pens.

Like LCD came on in a hopeless situation with the pack
Beaten

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Post by Sgt_Pooly on Sat 22 Aug 2015, 9:30 pm

George is looking a fair bit ahead of LCD imo

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Post by Guest on Sat 22 Aug 2015, 9:33 pm

Sgt_Pooly wrote:George is looking a fair bit ahead of LCD imo

How missed all lineouts and murdered in scrum.

LCD won scrum penalty and hit 50% jumpers

My point was actually that both have been poor but have both been put in impossible situations. Easter been good

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Post by Guest on Sat 22 Aug 2015, 9:34 pm

Not often I say michalak been great at int level

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Post by dammit_chris on Sat 22 Aug 2015, 9:36 pm

Such a bad performance - the decision not to take Hartley is really looking an awful call by Lancaster. Not a single player has turned up.

Cipriani is the only guy who looks like he's got something for us.

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Post by Guest on Sat 22 Aug 2015, 9:38 pm

Well done cips great finish . Score line flatters us.

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Post by Guest on Sat 22 Aug 2015, 9:39 pm

He needs to be in squad as a bench option.

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Post by Guest on Sat 22 Aug 2015, 9:43 pm

Great point Barnes re numbers at breakdown. French big men running out of steam. Twelvetrees ??????!!!!!!

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Post by prop_lyd on Sat 22 Aug 2015, 9:46 pm

anonmattyt wrote:Without getting too over the top after one poor game this has reinforced all the issues I have said we would have over the last few years.

The lack of a proper 7, tactical kicking game and both Youngs basics. Tom throwing in was pub level. Ben kicking and passing same.

Platform is everything and the main issue is up front. Our front row been hammered in scrum and lineout. Breakdown been awful. George missed all lineouts. Can anyone in
England throw in?? Prop fancy turning out for england

Backs can only play with ball given
And our pack poor in both games

Only look good in red sorry fella. Only caught first half but.looked very scrappy think both us and England will struggle vs oz in recent performances.
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Post by Guest on Sat 22 Aug 2015, 10:05 pm

Last ten minutes we looked good and they took foot off gas. First game for a lot of our lot and rusty but same for France. The have gone hard in their camp where I believe we have tried to taper and peak in 2 months time.

That said the Ireland game In 2 weeks is massive now. We need to play our first xv and see where we are at

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Post by Guest on Sat 22 Aug 2015, 10:07 pm

Outstanding cameo from cips. I don't think he will make it but raises questions.

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Post by Ozzy3213 on Sat 22 Aug 2015, 10:08 pm

Lineout a massive issue. Have to question if all down to hookers as none finding their man. Youngs threw a couple crooked but at times France just seemed to read and steal to easily. Calling and mechanics look a real problem.
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Post by Guest on Sat 22 Aug 2015, 10:15 pm

Ozzy3213 wrote:Lineout a massive issue.  Have to question if all down to hookers as none finding their man.  Youngs threw a couple crooked but at times France just seemed to read and steal to easily.  Calling and mechanics look a real problem.


Worryingly that was a settled pack today for us with youngs the only change from 6n starting line up but a regular squad member.

As I said last week we have not given LCD Clark George and others a proper chance.

Cips should have started a 6n game and LCD, George, twelve trees etc should have all had a start in a settled side. When we were great in 200-2003 we used to be able to blood players in a settled lineup. That mismatch side last week offered zero help to us.

This week wood aside was our strongest lineup and we came up short. Atwood was great off bench as were care Cips Wilson and Easter which is only positive

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Post by Guest on Sat 22 Aug 2015, 10:19 pm

French props smashed us. Slimani Mas Antonio debaty Ben arous is a superb lineup. They could really trouble the sh sides

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Post by Sgt_Pooly on Sat 22 Aug 2015, 11:38 pm

I'm starting to think it's a cunning ploy by Lancaster to make everybody think we're rubbish.

That was an awful performance from 1-15, as it was pretty awful last week.

Line out is the major concern as is the breakdown looking at our group.

George looked decent when he came on, I'd give him a run against Ireland.

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Post by Guest on Sat 22 Aug 2015, 11:40 pm

Watching Italy vs Scotland and jeez it's a poor game.
Matt Scott man of the match in
A dire off

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Post by Sgt_Pooly on Sat 22 Aug 2015, 11:44 pm

Watched some of that too, awful game

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Post by Guest on Sat 22 Aug 2015, 11:48 pm

Sgt_Pooly wrote:I'm starting to think it's a cunning ploy by Lancaster to make everybody think we're rubbish.

That was an awful performance from 1-15, as it was pretty awful last week.

Line out is the major concern as is the breakdown looking at our group.

George looked decent when he came on, I'd give him a run against Ireland.

I would give him and LCD a chance vs Ireland. None of them threw In well with George worse statistically than LCD although Robshaw helped him by calling some front ball which wood didn't. Technique wise George throwing better despite today's showing but LCD acknowledged as being the outstanding forward in the camps.

Let the 2 of them battle it out or ideally pick neither and get Hartley in. Not picking Hartley is idiotic as proven today

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Post by Guest on Sat 22 Aug 2015, 11:49 pm

Sgt_Pooly wrote:Watched some of that too, awful game


Make us look good

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Post by Guest on Sun 23 Aug 2015, 12:00 am

Scotland have some great players and a lock combo of the grays is world class.


Bennet Dunbar and Scott are great centres. Russell laid law and hidalgo clyne decent half backs although not ideal 9s for a running game.

Hogg best broken field runner in NH and whilst poor positionally and defensively his positives out weigh negatives and would get in most sides. Young lad with big boot and an ability ball in hand that is special.boot will get a lot more accurate and his discipline will improve . Denton looking decent with other 8s in mix also add in their dog like flankers. The issues are their bad players in key positions are really bad.
Front row and depth at 10 and back 3 startling.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly on Sun 23 Aug 2015, 12:09 am

LCD will get nowhere squad. It wasn't just that he missed his jumpers, his throwing technique is awful. I've said it all season, he has a loopy/lazy throw, he's not even at AP standard.

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Post by Guest on Sun 23 Aug 2015, 12:15 am

Accurate from greenwood


Luke Cowan-Dickie came on and got right into the thick of it. His first contribution as a young new hooker was facing a defensive five-metre scrum against the mighty French on his own line. England win a penalty, he gets to throw into a lineout, England win that and judgements are starting to be made. Around the field and defending, Cowan-Dickie got touches and made tackles. But then came the wobbles, and in the lineout, a group effort it must be stressed, he couldn’t gather any really solid ball and a couple of poor throws suddenly sees Jamie George breathing down his neck.


Hooker up for grabs. Webber stock has risen after a poor season as he threw in ok in first game.

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Post by Guest on Sun 23 Aug 2015, 12:21 am

First decent article from butler

http://www.theguardian.com/sport/blog/2015/aug/22/danny-cipriani-england-france-world-cup-squad

Youngs and Cole had nights to forget. France are cole's bogey team he always has mares against them. Arous genuine world class and improves every game.
Who has him on here ? Absolute star

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Post by Sgt_Pooly on Sun 23 Aug 2015, 12:26 am

No, LCD was just dreadful. Just watching 2nd half again.

George's missed throws seemed to be more the French reading it and contesting it. LCD just threw all over the place with nobody standing a chance. He's just not anywhere near this level.

French scrum got on top slightly but lost it when subs came on (Antonio & ??). Hard to judge too much as that pitch was a disgrace.

Cips did ok, as did Attwood & Mako off the bench.

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Post by Guest on Sun 23 Aug 2015, 12:26 am

George looked on the cusp of heading home, the talk in camp was of the brilliant summer training from Cowan-Dickie. But you make errors at this level and suddenly people start to question if you can deliver a hooker’s first job, which is making the touchline a team’s friend. A hooker’s throw is not far behind a goal kicker’s accuracy for importance. George will now get, and deserves, his chance on the field to have a crack at the third slot at hooker.


George was good in loose and all subs made a difference. Care was the most encouraging sign as for me he offers a lot more.

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