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Post by PhilBB on Fri 21 Aug 2015, 9:55 pm

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GavinDragon wrote:I don't need to address anything, I am one fan with an opinion the same as you and any other fan.

Sure, but here I am trying to understand your opinion yet, sadly, you won't address a key element of it.

Previously you wrote: "Only sad, narrow minded parochial people stuck in the amateur era mindset would see gwent as something in direct competition to newport." so I wrote a detailed, honest and clear answer as to why that insult is misplaced.

It's misplaced because one club is carrying all of the risk but with only 50% ownership.

Do you think it fair that one club carries all of the financial risk, without total ownership, for a "Gwent" team? Sure, you don't need to address the question but, in all fairness, it will speak volumes if you don't address it.

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Re: Gwent Dragons 2015/16 thread

Post by munkian on Mon 24 Aug 2015, 4:31 pm

Okay - story on him has changed now - He suffered a blow to the kidneys NOT achilles injury according to Twitter...

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Re: Gwent Dragons 2015/16 thread

Post by bedfordwelsh on Mon 24 Aug 2015, 4:59 pm

Achillies/Kidneys can see how people get them mixed up lol

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Re: Gwent Dragons 2015/16 thread

Post by munkian on Tue 25 Aug 2015, 11:18 am

Looks like the team to take on the Blues will be roughly the same that goes away to Craggy Island the week after.

Fingers crossed no injuries but its a contact sport.

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Re: Gwent Dragons 2015/16 thread

Post by GavinDragon on Tue 25 Aug 2015, 4:46 pm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4m2b2TOR87o&feature=youtu.be

Some highlights from our U18's win against Bristol last week. Some young guns to wat out for and hopefully some future Dragons

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Re: Gwent Dragons 2015/16 thread

Post by mikey_dragon on Tue 25 Aug 2015, 5:02 pm

Ospreys U18 lost to Bath, but beat Wasps and Saracens. Wasn't there somebody on here the other week saying our U18s should play against English teams more often?

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Re: Gwent Dragons 2015/16 thread

Post by mikey_dragon on Tue 25 Aug 2015, 5:06 pm

GavinDragon wrote:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4m2b2TOR87o&feature=youtu.be

Some highlights from our U18's win against Bristol last week. Some young guns to wat out for and hopefully some future Dragons

Scrappy game - but typical heads-up rugby from two sides of fearless young players. Also it looks as if Bristol had to find a bigger kit for their Will Skelton look-alike Laugh.

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Re: Gwent Dragons 2015/16 thread

Post by GavinDragon on Tue 25 Aug 2015, 5:07 pm

I think our 18's also beat Harlequins but lost to Exeter

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Re: Gwent Dragons 2015/16 thread

Post by Stone Motif on Tue 25 Aug 2015, 5:30 pm

mikey_dragon wrote:Our pro teams should play against English teams more often?

Fixed

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Re: Gwent Dragons 2015/16 thread

Post by mikey_dragon on Tue 25 Aug 2015, 5:36 pm

Stone Motif wrote:
mikey_dragon wrote:Our pro teams should play against English teams more often?

Fixed

How often? They play them at every pre-season.

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Re: Gwent Dragons 2015/16 thread

Post by Stone Motif on Tue 25 Aug 2015, 5:38 pm

mikey_dragon wrote:
Stone Motif wrote:
mikey_dragon wrote:Our pro teams should play against English teams more often?

Fixed

How often? They play them at every pre-season.

Every frickin weekend would be my ideal preference

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Re: Gwent Dragons 2015/16 thread

Post by mikey_dragon on Tue 25 Aug 2015, 5:39 pm

GavinDragon wrote:I think our 18's also beat Harlequins but lost to Exeter

Looked like they smashed Bristol. That number 4 always stood out on the wing looked good.

Is there an official site for the results of this festival? I can't seem to find it.

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Re: Gwent Dragons 2015/16 thread

Post by mikey_dragon on Tue 25 Aug 2015, 5:41 pm

Stone Motif wrote:
mikey_dragon wrote:
Stone Motif wrote:
mikey_dragon wrote:Our pro teams should play against English teams more often?

Fixed

How often? They play them at every pre-season.

Every frickin weekend would be my ideal preference

They don't play every weekend as it is. I don't think they even play a full season. I wouldn't mind seeing a B&I Cup at U18 and U20 levels though.

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Re: Gwent Dragons 2015/16 thread

Post by GavinDragon on Tue 25 Aug 2015, 6:01 pm

No there isn't. The dragons website updates their 16's results but not their 18's for some reason. @dragons_academy is the best place to follow results

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Re: Gwent Dragons 2015/16 thread

Post by PhilBB on Tue 25 Aug 2015, 6:57 pm

mikey_dragon wrote:

How often? They play them at every pre-season.

Weekly.

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Re: Gwent Dragons 2015/16 thread

Post by mikey_dragon on Tue 25 Aug 2015, 8:35 pm

GavinDragon wrote:No there isn't.  The dragons website updates their 16's results but not their 18's for some reason. @dragons_academy is the best place to follow results

Just installed the app on my phone for the purpose of signing up and following them. I really don't know how to use this if I'm honest..

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Re: Gwent Dragons 2015/16 thread

Post by bedfordwelsh on Sat 29 Aug 2015, 2:55 pm

Well after the great 7s win last night the full side round weekend off with a win at the Arms park in friendly Smile

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Re: Gwent Dragons 2015/16 thread

Post by GavinDragon on Sat 29 Aug 2015, 4:59 pm

great 24 hours for the region.

Can't wait for the season to start

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Re: Gwent Dragons 2015/16 thread

Post by Cardiff Dave on Sat 29 Aug 2015, 7:29 pm

Dregs kicking arse on two fronts with normal service resumed at the bloosground. Can't believe that Filise is still at it. The famous Ponty captain Dico played too.

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Re: Gwent Dragons 2015/16 thread

Post by mikey_dragon on Sat 29 Aug 2015, 8:46 pm

Unlucky Dai.

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Re: Gwent Dragons 2015/16 thread

Post by Cardiff Dave on Sat 29 Aug 2015, 8:52 pm

mikey_dragon wrote:Unlucky Dai.

Ah it was only a friendly though. The proper Pro12 friendlies begin next week.

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Re: Gwent Dragons 2015/16 thread

Post by GavinDragon on Sat 29 Aug 2015, 8:56 pm

will take any win at CAP. Blues going to struggle without We;sh contingent

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Post by Cardiff Dave on Sat 29 Aug 2015, 9:08 pm

GavinDragon wrote:will take any win at CAP. Blues going to struggle without We;sh contingent

Me too, join the club.

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Re: Gwent Dragons 2015/16 thread

Post by Stone Motif on Sat 29 Aug 2015, 9:25 pm

Cardiff Dave wrote:
Join the club

Don't start that again

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Re: Gwent Dragons 2015/16 thread

Post by GavinDragon on Sat 29 Aug 2015, 9:52 pm

so anyone at the game today care to give a synopsis?

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Post by Stone Motif on Sat 29 Aug 2015, 10:06 pm

GavinDragon wrote:so anyone at the game today care to give a synopsis?

Ok: it was a standard preseason friendly. HTH.

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Post by Cardiff Dave on Sat 29 Aug 2015, 10:25 pm

Stone Motif wrote:
Cardiff Dave wrote:
Join the club

Don't start that again

Eh?

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Re: Gwent Dragons 2015/16 thread

Post by Stone Motif on Sat 29 Aug 2015, 11:04 pm

Cardiff Dave wrote:
Stone Motif wrote:
Cardiff Dave wrote:
Join the club

Don't start that again

Eh?

You know. With the C word. Tends to start a right old sh1tfest

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Re: Gwent Dragons 2015/16 thread

Post by PhilBB on Sun 30 Aug 2015, 11:25 am

GavinDragon wrote:will take any win at CAP. Blues going to struggle without We;sh contingent

Yet the first half team were clearly more than a match for the NGD.

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Post by PhilBB on Sun 30 Aug 2015, 11:27 am

GavinDragon wrote:so anyone at the game today care to give a synopsis?

The NGD have a fine spine developing with Landman, Jackson and Pretorious - the latter is a very smart player. The NGD have a weakness with Tovey and at hooker, with the scrum seeing the NGD pretty much smashed.

At half time, Cardiff replaced 13 of the team (if not more) and were seriously dreadful as the NGD made few changes. Then, when the NGD made changes, Cardiff improved.

It was good to see Brew return and good to see that he is exactly the same player he always was.

If the NGD had a 10 who could play smart rugby then they'd be a match - if they can keep their first choice fit.

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Re: Gwent Dragons 2015/16 thread

Post by Stone Motif on Sun 30 Aug 2015, 12:11 pm

PhilBB wrote:
GavinDragon wrote:will take any win at CAP. Blues going to struggle without We;sh contingent

Yet the first half team were clearly more than a match for the NGD whilst they were down to fourteen.

Fixed

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Post by PhilBB on Sun 30 Aug 2015, 12:13 pm

Stone Motif wrote:
PhilBB wrote:
GavinDragon wrote:will take any win at CAP. Blues going to struggle without We;sh contingent

Yet the first half team were clearly more than a match for the NGD whilst they were down to fourteen.

Fixed

To a degree, yes, but you'll surely agree that the first half teams were pretty evenly matched. The lacked of counter rucking makes it difficult to judge adequately, as did Dave Coaches' lenient refereeing.

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Post by PhilBB on Sun 30 Aug 2015, 12:14 pm

But, to extend that 14 man thing, could you see why the 2nd minute deliberate knock on, preventing a clear overlap try, in the 22, didn't result in a yellow?

That was worse than Pretorious'.

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Post by Stone Motif on Sun 30 Aug 2015, 12:14 pm

PhilBB wrote:
GavinDragon wrote:so anyone at the game today care to give a synopsis?

The NGD have a fine spine developing with Landman, Jackson and Pretorious - the latter is a very smart player. The NGD have a weakness with Tovey and at hooker, with the scrum seeing the NGD pretty much smashed.

At half time, Cardiff replaced 13 of the team (if not more) and were seriously dreadful as the NGD made few changes. Then, when the NGD made changes, Cardiff improved.

It was good to see Brew return and good to see that he is exactly the same player he always was.

If the NGD had a 10 who could play smart rugby then they'd be a match - if they can keep their first choice fit.

Fair overall. Tovey is our Hook, except he can't play centre.

First choice the important bit - scrum in particular though I think we only had 1/3 of our best front row on the field yesterday for what 20 mins?

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Post by Stone Motif on Sun 30 Aug 2015, 12:18 pm

PhilBB wrote:
Stone Motif wrote:
PhilBB wrote:
GavinDragon wrote:will take any win at CAP. Blues going to struggle without We;sh contingent

Yet the first half team were clearly more than a match for the NGD whilst they were down to fourteen.

Fixed

To a degree, yes, but you'll surely agree that the first half teams were pretty evenly matched. The lacked of counter rucking makes it difficult to judge adequately, as did Dave Coaches' lenient refereeing.

There's not much between us at all, hasn't been for a while to be honest. I have a feeling you'll pip us this year due to slightly better depth and the Chief sodding off. Depends if your players get their knickers in a twist with Danny Wilson though.

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Post by Stone Motif on Sun 30 Aug 2015, 12:20 pm

PhilBB wrote:But, to extend that 14 man thing, could you see why the 2nd minute deliberate knock on, preventing a clear overlap try, in the 22, didn't result in a yellow?

That was worse than Pretorious'.

You're in for a long season if you're going to try and apply logic to refereeing decisions.

Particulalry in the PrO'12

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Re: Gwent Dragons 2015/16 thread

Post by PhilBB on Sun 30 Aug 2015, 12:41 pm

Stone Motif wrote:
First choice the important bit - scrum in particular though I think we only had 1/3 of our best front row on the field yesterday for what 20 mins?

You'll know that better than me, but you'll agree that none of Cardiff's first choice front row was on the field in the first half.

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Post by PhilBB on Sun 30 Aug 2015, 12:42 pm

Stone Motif wrote:
There's not much between us at all, hasn't been for a while to be honest.  I have a feeling you'll pip us this year due to slightly better depth and the Chief sodding off.  Depends if your players get their knickers in a twist with Danny Wilson though.

Fair enough. I think that Cardiff were missing 11 players yesterday from the first half team - how many were the NGD missing?

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Post by Stone Motif on Sun 30 Aug 2015, 1:58 pm

PhilBB wrote:
Stone Motif wrote:
First choice the important bit - scrum in particular though I think we only had 1/3 of our best front row on the field yesterday for what 20 mins?

You'll know that better than me, but you'll agree that none of Cardiff's first choice front row was on the field in the first half.

None of your first choice front row improve your scrum any

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Post by Stone Motif on Sun 30 Aug 2015, 2:10 pm

PhilBB wrote:
Stone Motif wrote:
There's not much between us at all, hasn't been for a while to be honest.  I have a feeling you'll pip us this year due to slightly better depth and the Chief sodding off.  Depends if your players get their knickers in a twist with Danny Wilson though.

Fair enough. I think that Cardiff were missing 11 players yesterday from the first half team - how many were the NGD missing?
Amos, Morgan, Leach, Dixon, Brok, Dee, Stankovich, Coombes, Thomas, Faletau

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Post by munkian on Sun 30 Aug 2015, 2:26 pm

Stankovitch was playing ?

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Post by Stone Motif on Sun 30 Aug 2015, 2:33 pm

munkian wrote:Stankovitch was playing ?
Not all the match?

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Post by PhilBB on Sun 30 Aug 2015, 4:08 pm

Stone Motif wrote:
Amos, Morgan, Leach, Dixon, Brok, Dee, Stankovich, Coombes, Thomas, Faletau

Coombes as a lock? Thomas ahead of Cudd?

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Post by PhilBB on Sun 30 Aug 2015, 4:09 pm

Stone Motif wrote:
PhilBB wrote:
Stone Motif wrote:
First choice the important bit - scrum in particular though I think we only had 1/3 of our best front row on the field yesterday for what 20 mins?

You'll know that better than me, but you'll agree that none of Cardiff's first choice front row was on the field in the first half.

None of your first choice front row improve your scrum any

Seriously? Jenkins over Hobbs, Dacey over Lewis, Mitchell over Filise won't improve the front row? I can't share that opinion with you.

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Post by PhilBB on Sun 30 Aug 2015, 4:10 pm

Stone Motif wrote:
munkian wrote:Stankovitch was playing ?
Not all the match?

Did he play the first half? I'm surprised if he did as Filise walked through him.

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Post by GavinDragon on Sun 30 Aug 2015, 4:46 pm

So we struggled at scrumtime? Concerning as that Blues pack didnt look strong on paper.

The argus also indicated that we were solid at the set piece

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Post by Stone Motif on Sun 30 Aug 2015, 4:54 pm

PhilBB wrote:
Stone Motif wrote:
Amos, Morgan, Leach, Dixon, Brok, Dee, Stankovich, Coombes, Thomas, Faletau

Coombes as a lock? Thomas ahead of Cudd?
Thomas 6 for Evans and Coombes ahead ahead of Hill

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Post by Stone Motif on Sun 30 Aug 2015, 4:57 pm

PhilBB wrote:
Stone Motif wrote:
PhilBB wrote:
Stone Motif wrote:
First choice the important bit - scrum in particular though I think we only had 1/3 of our best front row on the field yesterday for what 20 mins?

You'll know that better than me, but you'll agree that none of Cardiff's first choice front row was on the field in the first half.

None of your first choice front row improve your scrum any

Seriously? Jenkins over Hobbs, Dacey over Lewis, Mitchell over Filise won't improve the front row? I can't share that opinion with you.

I said they wouldn't improve your scrum any.

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Re: Gwent Dragons 2015/16 thread

Post by Cardiff Dave on Mon 31 Aug 2015, 10:32 pm

Stone Motif wrote:
Cardiff Dave wrote:
Stone Motif wrote:
Cardiff Dave wrote:
Join the club

Don't start that again

Eh?

You know. With the C word. Tends to start a right old sh1tfest

Which one? Both have caused a sh1tfest or two in my experience.

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Re: Gwent Dragons 2015/16 thread

Post by Guest on Mon 31 Aug 2015, 10:36 pm

PhilBB wrote:
Stone Motif wrote:
munkian wrote:Stankovitch was playing ?
Not all the match?

Did he play the first half? I'm surprised if he did as Filise walked through him.

I'm sure he played the second and Price started.

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Post by Steffan on Mon 31 Aug 2015, 10:37 pm

What with only two players missing from the squad due to the world cup I think the Dragons could take this opportunity to get the season off to a good start

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