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Post by wayne on Wed 02 Sep 2015, 12:43 pm

Never done one of these here before, yet cannot do any worse than last years idiot.
Head Coach Steve Tandy
Backs Coach Gruff Rees
Forwards Coach Chris Gibbes
Squad Alphabetically
TYLER ARDRON 24 Back Row                  Rhodri Hughes 20 Lock
Dimitri Arhip 26 Prop                              PAUL JAMES 33 Prop
Lloyd Ashley (Peers) 24 Lock                   AARON JARVIS 29 Prop
Dan Baker 23 Back Row                          Ben John 24 Centre
SCOTT BALDWIN 27 Hooker                    ALUN WYN JONES 29 Lock
Adam Beard 19 Lock                              JAMES KING 25 Back Row  
Joe Bearman 36 Back Row                      Brendon Leonard 30 S/H
Ashley Beck 25 Centre                            DAN LYDIATE 27 Back Row
Rynier Bernardo 24 Lock                         JOSH MATAVESI 24 Centre
Ryan Bevington 26 Prop                          Scott Otten 21 Hooker
DAN BIGGAR 25 OH                               Sam Parry 23 Hooker
Andrew Bishop 30 Centre                        Kristian Phillips 24 Wing
Jordan Collier 20 Back Row                     Martin Roberts 29 S/H
Olly Cracknell 21 Back Row                     Nicky Smith 21 Prop
Sam Davies 21 O/H                                Johnathon Spratt 29 Centre
Gareth Delve 32 Back Row                      De Kock Steenkamp 28 Lock
Hanno Dirksen 24 Wing                          Dan Suter 23 Prop
Mathew Dwyer 30 Hooker                       Gareth Thomas 23 Prop
Dan Evans 26 F/B                                  Marc Thomas 25 Prop
Lloyd Evans 24 Back Row                       Rory Thornton 20 Lock
Richard Fussell 31 F/B                            JUSTIN TIPURIC 26 Back Row  
Tom Grabham 24 Wing                           Eli Walker 23 Wing
Cai Griffiths 31 Prop                               RHYS WEBB 26 S/H
Tom Habberfield 23 S/H                         The following 2 are either temporary
JEFF HASSLER 24 Wing                          or with feeder clubs
Dafydd Howells 20 Wing                         Sam Underhill 19 Back Row
                                                           Oliver Tomaszczyk 28 Prop
The players in CAPITALS will not be available until after the first 3 games of the Guinness League due to WC call ups
The past 5 seasons we have finished 3, 5, 3, 3 and 4 at the end of the regular season, I envision us finishing around the same position this season.
We will also be without Bernardo and Suter for a while early season, we have recruited Tomaszczyk to cover Suter, Underhill came on as a substitute in the Saracens friendly and there were favourable reports about him. If we have injuries in a few key positions especially early season, that prophecy above could be out the window. There has been talk we have signed a T/H from NZ, who had a serious ankle ligament injury, we are still waiting on his rehab. It needs to be soon or we will have to rely on Jarvis, which is not a good thought.
Just to add we won our first 7 matches last season, against most peoples and my expectations, and it will be more of a shock to me if we win either of our first 2 matches this season. Too many missing through injury and International call ups.


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Re: Ospreys 2015/16 Season

Post by LordDowlais on Wed 02 Sep 2015, 1:10 pm

wayne wrote:yet cannot do any worse than last years idiot.

Laugh

Where has the Saint gone these days ? His last Ospreys thread blew up spectacularly, yet he still defended it.

Does anybody know if he is banned, or taking a well needed self certified sabbatical ? I am missing debating with him. Whistle

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Re: Ospreys 2015/16 Season

Post by wayne on Wed 02 Sep 2015, 2:10 pm

LordDowlais wrote:
wayne wrote:yet cannot do any worse than last years idiot.

Laugh

Where has the Saint gone these days ? His last Ospreys thread blew up spectacularly, yet he still defended it.

Does anybody know if he is banned, or taking a well needed self certified sabbatical ? I am missing debating with him. Whistle
The trouble is Lord you cannot debate with him, he said things on the first page of that topic, that if they were wrong he would apologise and eat humble pie and after they were proved to be wrong he did neither and the same applied to a few others as well.

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Re: Ospreys 2015/16 Season

Post by LordDowlais on Wed 02 Sep 2015, 3:11 pm

wayne wrote:The trouble is Lord you cannot debate with him

And don't I know it. Shocked


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Re: Ospreys 2015/16 Season

Post by Guest on Thu 03 Sep 2015, 8:19 am

Wow. Saint really did a number on you two.

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Re: Ospreys 2015/16 Season

Post by wayne on Thu 03 Sep 2015, 2:12 pm

Risca Rev wrote:Wow. Saint really did a number on you two.

I can quite categorically say he didn't do a number on me, as YOU well know I don't like LIARS, they are the most despicable things roaming the Earth.

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Re: Ospreys 2015/16 Season

Post by GavinDragon on Thu 03 Sep 2015, 2:35 pm

http://www.walesonline.co.uk/business/ospreys-only-behind-munster-jersey-9981996#ICID=sharebar_twitter

Further good news for the O's

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Re: Ospreys 2015/16 Season

Post by PhilBB on Thu 03 Sep 2015, 2:41 pm

Anybody have any idea how that data is gathered? I've asked Running Rugby but they are yet to reply.

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Re: Ospreys 2015/16 Season

Post by Guest on Thu 03 Sep 2015, 2:56 pm

wayne wrote:
Risca Rev wrote:Wow. Saint really did a number on you two.

I can quite categorically say he didn't do a number on me, as YOU well know I don't like LIARS, they are the most despicable things roaming the Earth.

Just don't see the need in mentioning him, particularly when in that guise he isn't around anymore.

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Re: Ospreys 2015/16 Season

Post by GavinDragon on Thu 03 Sep 2015, 2:59 pm

PhilBB wrote:Anybody have any idea how that data is gathered? I've asked Running Rugby but they are yet to reply.

What are your suspicions?

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Re: Ospreys 2015/16 Season

Post by LordDowlais on Thu 03 Sep 2015, 3:04 pm

Risca Rev wrote:
wayne wrote:
Risca Rev wrote:Wow. Saint really did a number on you two.

I can quite categorically say he didn't do a number on me, as YOU well know I don't like LIARS, they are the most despicable things roaming the Earth.

Just don't see the need in mentioning him, particularly when in that guise he isn't around anymore.

Who is he then Risca, do you know him, what guise is he in now ? I know me and him never saw eye to eye, but when he wanted to you could talk rugby with him without fighting, he is quite knowledgeable when it come's to Dragons.

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Re: Ospreys 2015/16 Season

Post by wayne on Thu 03 Sep 2015, 3:11 pm

GavinDragon wrote:
PhilBB wrote:Anybody have any idea how that data is gathered? I've asked Running Rugby but they are yet to reply.

What are your suspicions?
They have been 2nd to Munster every year since around 2010 according to our website, or it was around the year when our merchandise hit the £1M mark, it is not far off that date.

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Re: Ospreys 2015/16 Season

Post by wayne on Thu 03 Sep 2015, 3:13 pm

LordDowlais wrote:
Risca Rev wrote:
wayne wrote:
Risca Rev wrote:Wow. Saint really did a number on you two.

I can quite categorically say he didn't do a number on me, as YOU well know I don't like LIARS, they are the most despicable things roaming the Earth.

Just don't see the need in mentioning him, particularly when in that guise he isn't around anymore.

Who is he then Risca, do you know him, what guise is he in now ? I know me and him never saw eye to eye, but when he wanted to you could talk rugby with him without fighting, he is quite knowledgeable when it come's to Dragons.
LD, HE posted last on here on the 9/8, have a look who started posting under a different name a couple of weeks later

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Post by LordDowlais on Thu 03 Sep 2015, 3:17 pm

wayne wrote:LD, HE posted last on here on the 9/8, have a look who started posting under a different name a couple of weeks later

PhilBB ?

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Re: Ospreys 2015/16 Season

Post by GavinDragon on Thu 03 Sep 2015, 3:18 pm

Ha PhilBB is not Saint

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Re: Ospreys 2015/16 Season

Post by PhilBB on Thu 03 Sep 2015, 3:19 pm

GavinDragon wrote:
PhilBB wrote:Anybody have any idea how that data is gathered? I've asked Running Rugby but they are yet to reply.

What are your suspicions?

That it is a tiny sample size g-estimated.

Unless they have gone to each manufacturer and somehow obtained sales figures in the UK or import figures to the UK by each individual design, how on earth would they know?

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Post by PhilBB on Thu 03 Sep 2015, 3:20 pm

GavinDragon wrote:
PhilBB wrote:Anybody have any idea how that data is gathered? I've asked Running Rugby but they are yet to reply.

What are your suspicions?

That it is a tiny sample size g-estimated.

Unless they have gone to each manufacturer and somehow obtained sales figures in the UK or import figures to the UK by each individual design, how on earth would they know?

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Post by LordDowlais on Thu 03 Sep 2015, 3:23 pm

GavinDragon wrote:Ha PhilBB is not Saint

I thought not, PhilBB is a Cardiff RFC fan. He is more like ChunkyNorwich than the Saint. Funny though, Chunky does not seem to be on here these days either. chin

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Re: Ospreys 2015/16 Season

Post by GavinDragon on Thu 03 Sep 2015, 3:23 pm

Surely it would be sales from the region's retail and online outlets?

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Post by PhilBB on Thu 03 Sep 2015, 3:26 pm

GavinDragon wrote:Surely it would be sales from the region's retail and online outlets?

So these figures just ignored all sales from Lovell, JD Sports, manufacturer direct and thousands of other shops. Hell, even Tesco was pumping out Ospreys shirts - are you claiming that they are excluded from the figures?

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Post by GavinDragon on Thu 03 Sep 2015, 3:29 pm

Not claiming, suggesting one source of data as I genuinely didn't, and don't, know where they get the data from.


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Re: Ospreys 2015/16 Season

Post by wayne on Thu 03 Sep 2015, 4:10 pm

LordDowlais wrote:
wayne wrote:LD, HE posted last on here on the 9/8, have a look who started posting under a different name a couple of weeks later

PhilBB ?
No LD, he is not hard to spot.

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Re: Ospreys 2015/16 Season

Post by LordDowlais on Thu 03 Sep 2015, 4:19 pm

wayne wrote:
LordDowlais wrote:
wayne wrote:LD, HE posted last on here on the 9/8, have a look who started posting under a different name a couple of weeks later

PhilBB ?
No LD, he is not hard to spot.

Well I am seriously missing something then. You are going to have to tell me. Doh

Mikey_ Dragon ? If that is him, then he has changed his style on here.

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Re: Ospreys 2015/16 Season

Post by PhilBB on Fri 04 Sep 2015, 8:21 am

GavinDragon wrote:Not claiming, suggesting one source of data as I genuinely didn't, and don't, know where they get the data from.


Which leads me to think that it is one large g-estimation.

Or, in other words, useless.

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Post by wayne on Fri 04 Sep 2015, 6:33 pm

PhilBB wrote:
GavinDragon wrote:Not claiming, suggesting one source of data as I genuinely didn't, and don't, know where they get the data from.


Which leads me to think that it is one large g-estimation.

Or, in other words, useless.

Boys, on the day that this years shirt was unveiled, in the Press release it was quoted as 2006 as the year we rose to 2nd behind Munster, and outsell the AP as well, it also quoted that we outsell by nearly 2 to 1 the other Regions added together.

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Post by Cardiff Dave on Fri 04 Sep 2015, 6:44 pm

wayne wrote:
PhilBB wrote:
GavinDragon wrote:Not claiming, suggesting one source of data as I genuinely didn't, and don't, know where they get the data from.


Which leads me to think that it is one large g-estimation.

Or, in other words, useless.
 
Boys, on the day that this years shirt was unveiled, in the Press release it was quoted as 2006 as the year we rose to 2nd behind Munster, and outsell the AP as well, it also quoted that we outsell by nearly 2 to 1 the other Regions added together.

Would not "shift" be more accurate since the Os have been exceedingly generous over the years with their merch when purchasing STs?

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Re: Ospreys 2015/16 Season

Post by wayne on Fri 04 Sep 2015, 7:18 pm

Cardiff Dave wrote:
wayne wrote:
PhilBB wrote:
GavinDragon wrote:Not claiming, suggesting one source of data as I genuinely didn't, and don't, know where they get the data from.


Which leads me to think that it is one large g-estimation.

Or, in other words, useless.
 
Boys, on the day that this years shirt was unveiled, in the Press release it was quoted as 2006 as the year we rose to 2nd behind Munster, and outsell the AP as well, it also quoted that we outsell by nearly 2 to 1 the other Regions added together.

Would not "shift" be more accurate since the Os have been exceedingly generous over the years with their merch when purchasing STs?
Can you tell me apart from the last 2 seasons when kids under 16 can pay £20 extra for their ST and get a "FREE" shirt, when a ST holder had a generous offer on shirts, because I've never known of these supposed offers, other than 10% off all merchandise throughout the whole season.

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Re: Ospreys 2015/16 Season

Post by Cardiff Dave on Fri 04 Sep 2015, 7:40 pm

wayne wrote:
Cardiff Dave wrote:
wayne wrote:
PhilBB wrote:
GavinDragon wrote:Not claiming, suggesting one source of data as I genuinely didn't, and don't, know where they get the data from.


Which leads me to think that it is one large g-estimation.

Or, in other words, useless.
 
Boys, on the day that this years shirt was unveiled, in the Press release it was quoted as 2006 as the year we rose to 2nd behind Munster, and outsell the AP as well, it also quoted that we outsell by nearly 2 to 1 the other Regions added together.

Would not "shift" be more accurate since the Os have been exceedingly generous over the years with their merch when purchasing STs?
Can you tell me apart from the last 2 seasons when kids under 16 can pay £20 extra for their ST and get a "FREE" shirt, when a ST holder had a generous offer on shirts, because I've never known of these supposed offers, other than 10% off all merchandise throughout the whole season.  

I'm sure the historical offers are in the Os archives if you care to look. Have a browse. Not knocking the Os btw, but I do question whether they have ever sold more merch at RRP compared to AP clubs like Leicester or Northampton for example.

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Re: Ospreys 2015/16 Season

Post by wayne on Fri 04 Sep 2015, 9:54 pm

Cardiff Dave wrote:
wayne wrote:
Cardiff Dave wrote:
wayne wrote:
PhilBB wrote:
GavinDragon wrote:Not claiming, suggesting one source of data as I genuinely didn't, and don't, know where they get the data from.


Which leads me to think that it is one large g-estimation.

Or, in other words, useless.
 
Boys, on the day that this years shirt was unveiled, in the Press release it was quoted as 2006 as the year we rose to 2nd behind Munster, and outsell the AP as well, it also quoted that we outsell by nearly 2 to 1 the other Regions added together.

Would not "shift" be more accurate since the Os have been exceedingly generous over the years with their merch when purchasing STs?
Can you tell me apart from the last 2 seasons when kids under 16 can pay £20 extra for their ST and get a "FREE" shirt, when a ST holder had a generous offer on shirts, because I've never known of these supposed offers, other than 10% off all merchandise throughout the whole season.  

I'm sure the historical offers are in the Os archives if you care to look. Have a browse. Not knocking the Os btw, but I do question whether they have ever sold more merch at RRP compared to AP clubs like Leicester or Northampton for example.
Considering I've been a ST holder for every year except 1 since we went to the Liberty and never had a shirt before Christmas, there are reductions in about April onwards, never when STs are purchased, considering there are fundamental differences in shirt colouring every year with us, there is also the Black and White variations for home and away matches, and we always have a 3rd jersey, some of the revenue goes to a nominated Charity which is not apparent in the clubs you mention and it is not hard to realise how we would sell more than those clubs. The figures as as been mentioned before are independantly verified. It is NOT our figures.

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Post by Breadvan on Mon 07 Sep 2015, 10:28 am

Snap. I never buy a shirt until they're reduced, even with the 10% ST discount. Call me a tightarris but I'm not shelling out £50 every year when the shirts have 40% off come feb. Plus the away ones are always better. Swanseawhiteatheart ;-)

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Re: Ospreys 2015/16 Season

Post by wayne on Wed 09 Sep 2015, 7:11 pm

After that terrible performance against Ulster, (not a dig at Ulster but you didn't have to play very well to beat us) it was heartening to see our backs coach Gruff Rees admitting as much, in his Munster pre-match Press Conference on line today he said that many who came on off the bench were so much better than the players who started, he singled out Thornton and Leonard, he mentioned how they adapted to changing circumstances very well.
Ashley Beck lasted very little time, and it has got worse for him, he has ruptured his ACL and the prognosis is that he will be out for about 8 months, after having surgery which will probably be later this week.
I'm hoping Dirksen or Howells, Leonard, Smith, Thornton and Baker start, if we had played Dirksen more often in the centre before, I would have both of the first 2 in. Habberfield wasn't bad, but you could see the class of Leonard straight from the off, I would also put our recent signing T/H on the bench instead of Cai Griffiths, and I just hope they have had some practice on how to tackle properly.

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Re: Ospreys 2015/16 Season

Post by Cardiff Dave on Wed 09 Sep 2015, 8:24 pm

wayne wrote:
Cardiff Dave wrote:
wayne wrote:
Cardiff Dave wrote:
wayne wrote:
PhilBB wrote:
GavinDragon wrote:Not claiming, suggesting one source of data as I genuinely didn't, and don't, know where they get the data from.


Which leads me to think that it is one large g-estimation.

Or, in other words, useless.
 
Boys, on the day that this years shirt was unveiled, in the Press release it was quoted as 2006 as the year we rose to 2nd behind Munster, and outsell the AP as well, it also quoted that we outsell by nearly 2 to 1 the other Regions added together.

Would not "shift" be more accurate since the Os have been exceedingly generous over the years with their merch when purchasing STs?
Can you tell me apart from the last 2 seasons when kids under 16 can pay £20 extra for their ST and get a "FREE" shirt, when a ST holder had a generous offer on shirts, because I've never known of these supposed offers, other than 10% off all merchandise throughout the whole season.  

I'm sure the historical offers are in the Os archives if you care to look. Have a browse. Not knocking the Os btw, but I do question whether they have ever sold more merch at RRP compared to AP clubs like Leicester or Northampton for example.
Considering I've been a ST holder for every year except 1 since we went to the Liberty and never had a shirt before Christmas, there are reductions in about April onwards, never when STs are purchased, considering there are fundamental differences in shirt colouring every year with us, there is also the Black and White variations  for home and away matches, and we always have a 3rd jersey, some of the revenue goes to a nominated Charity which is not apparent in the clubs you mention and it is not hard to realise how we would sell more than those clubs. The figures as as been mentioned before are independantly verified. It is NOT our figures.

Okey dokes. Do you believe the figures though and do they compare with ST sales by any chance? I ask coz Leicester sold around 14k season tickets last year I believe and they're not cheap either.

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Post by wayne on Wed 09 Sep 2015, 9:02 pm

Of course I believe them Dave, I'm a pretty cheeky sort of person and have asked people wearing Ospreys tops do they go to Ospreys games and the vast majority and I'm talking 95% or more say no, and these are not just in our area, apart from days when there are games on I see more Ospreys jerseys than any of the other teams jerseys wherever I go in Wales including the capital. The problem most other teams have, they have a set jersey, we have the same main colours every season, Black at home and White away with the different sponsors on both Jerseys, we also fetch out a Charity jersey which is nothing to do with either of the first team's jerseys colours. The team's supporters I have great admiration for are Munster, whose shirt AFAIK has basically not changed in years and are still top of the pile

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Post by Cardiff Dave on Wed 09 Sep 2015, 9:37 pm

wayne wrote:Of course I believe them Dave, I'm a pretty cheeky sort of person and have asked people  wearing Ospreys tops do they go to Ospreys games and the vast majority and I'm talking 95% or more say no, and these are not just in our area, apart from days when there are games on I see more Ospreys jerseys than any of the other teams jerseys wherever I go in Wales including the capital. The problem most other teams have, they have a set jersey, we have the same main colours every season, Black at home and White away with the different sponsors on both Jerseys, we also fetch out a Charity jersey which is nothing to do with either of the first team's jerseys colours. The team's supporters I have great admiration for are Munster, whose shirt AFAIK has basically not changed in years and are still top of the pile  

Why?
I wouldn't believe Cardiff bloos if they said today was Wednesday. I'd check elsewhere to be sure. Call it a rugby decision if you like. Still not convinced the Os "sell" more jerseys than say Leinster, Leicester, Northampton, etc.

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Re: Ospreys 2015/16 Season

Post by Stone Motif on Wed 09 Sep 2015, 9:53 pm

Cardiff Dave wrote:
wayne wrote:Of course I believe them Dave, I'm a pretty cheeky sort of person and have asked people  wearing Ospreys tops do they go to Ospreys games and the vast majority and I'm talking 95% or more say no, and these are not just in our area, apart from days when there are games on I see more Ospreys jerseys than any of the other teams jerseys wherever I go in Wales including the capital. The problem most other teams have, they have a set jersey, we have the same main colours every season, Black at home and White away with the different sponsors on both Jerseys, we also fetch out a Charity jersey which is nothing to do with either of the first team's jerseys colours. The team's supporters I have great admiration for are Munster, whose shirt AFAIK has basically not changed in years and are still top of the pile  

Why?
I wouldn't believe Cardiff bloos if they said today was Wednesday. I'd check elsewhere to be sure. Call it a rugby decision if you like. Still not convinced the Os "sell" more jerseys than say Leinster, Leicester, Northampton, etc.

Yeah, it's not as if they haven't branded themselves with a stupid plastic slogan which is a complete pile of cachu ceffyl is it?

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Re: Ospreys 2015/16 Season

Post by Cardiff Dave on Wed 09 Sep 2015, 10:10 pm

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Cardiff Dave wrote:
wayne wrote:Of course I believe them Dave, I'm a pretty cheeky sort of person and have asked people  wearing Ospreys tops do they go to Ospreys games and the vast majority and I'm talking 95% or more say no, and these are not just in our area, apart from days when there are games on I see more Ospreys jerseys than any of the other teams jerseys wherever I go in Wales including the capital. The problem most other teams have, they have a set jersey, we have the same main colours every season, Black at home and White away with the different sponsors on both Jerseys, we also fetch out a Charity jersey which is nothing to do with either of the first team's jerseys colours. The team's supporters I have great admiration for are Munster, whose shirt AFAIK has basically not changed in years and are still top of the pile  

Why?
I wouldn't believe Cardiff bloos if they said today was Wednesday. I'd check elsewhere to be sure. Call it a rugby decision if you like. Still not convinced the Os "sell" more jerseys than say Leinster, Leicester, Northampton, etc.

Yeah, it's not as if they haven't branded themselves with a stupid plastic slogan which is a complete pile of cachu ceffyl is it?

A rushed rugby decision I guess.

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Re: Ospreys 2015/16 Season

Post by wayne on Fri 11 Sep 2015, 12:24 pm

Ospreys team to play Munster
Evans, Phillips, Spratt, Watkin, Dirksen, Davies, Leonard, Smith, Parry, Arhip, Ashley, Thornton, Bearman, Underhill, Baker, Subs, Thomas, Otten, Griffiths, Steenkamp, Cracknell, Habberfield, Jenkins, Fussell.
Pleased with the forward changes, Ben John out injured, Delve totally dropped from the team


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Re: Ospreys 2015/16 Season

Post by wayne on Fri 11 Sep 2015, 12:37 pm

Cardiff Dave wrote:
wayne wrote:Of course I believe them Dave, I'm a pretty cheeky sort of person and have asked people  wearing Ospreys tops do they go to Ospreys games and the vast majority and I'm talking 95% or more say no, and these are not just in our area, apart from days when there are games on I see more Ospreys jerseys than any of the other teams jerseys wherever I go in Wales including the capital. The problem most other teams have, they have a set jersey, we have the same main colours every season, Black at home and White away with the different sponsors on both Jerseys, we also fetch out a Charity jersey which is nothing to do with either of the first team's jerseys colours. The team's supporters I have great admiration for are Munster, whose shirt AFAIK has basically not changed in years and are still top of the pile  

Why?
I wouldn't believe Cardiff bloos if they said today was Wednesday. I'd check elsewhere to be sure. Call it a rugby decision if you like. Still not convinced the Os "sell" more jerseys than say Leinster, Leicester, Northampton, etc.
Dave, I only have to walk around the many towns of South Wales and further afield to see that Ospreys shirts outnumber the shirts of every other "Regional Team", I observed it yesterday in Ikea and the cafe area of Cardiff Bay, these figures have been quoted every year since 2006, so if they were wrong plenty of people have had many opportunities to prove and publish them, so why don't you go and have a look for them.

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Re: Ospreys 2015/16 Season

Post by ScarletSpiderman on Fri 11 Sep 2015, 2:02 pm

wayne wrote:
Cardiff Dave wrote:
wayne wrote:Of course I believe them Dave, I'm a pretty cheeky sort of person and have asked people  wearing Ospreys tops do they go to Ospreys games and the vast majority and I'm talking 95% or more say no, and these are not just in our area, apart from days when there are games on I see more Ospreys jerseys than any of the other teams jerseys wherever I go in Wales including the capital. The problem most other teams have, they have a set jersey, we have the same main colours every season, Black at home and White away with the different sponsors on both Jerseys, we also fetch out a Charity jersey which is nothing to do with either of the first team's jerseys colours. The team's supporters I have great admiration for are Munster, whose shirt AFAIK has basically not changed in years and are still top of the pile  

Why?
I wouldn't believe Cardiff bloos if they said today was Wednesday. I'd check elsewhere to be sure. Call it a rugby decision if you like. Still not convinced the Os "sell" more jerseys than say Leinster, Leicester, Northampton, etc.
Dave, I only have to walk around the many towns of South Wales and further afield to see that Ospreys shirts outnumber the shirts of every other "Regional Team", I observed it yesterday in Ikea and the cafe area of Cardiff Bay, these figures have been quoted every year since 2006, so if they were wrong plenty of people have had many opportunities to prove and publish them, so why don't you go and have a look for them.

Around Milford Haven, and most of the 'civilised' Pembrokeshire, I would say that probably 50% or more of the 'this seasons' shirts you see are Ospreys shirts. However I would say if you were talking about regions colours (Hoodies/training tops/t-shirts/old shirts etc) that you probably see 60-30-10 Scarlets/Ospreys/Other. So I would agree the Ospreys are probably the second best 'shirt' retailer around, but when it comes to all the other stuff, I would not be too sure.

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Re: Ospreys 2015/16 Season

Post by wayne on Sat 12 Sep 2015, 11:40 am

It should be added that tomorrow there is a tribute to Jerry Collins, with a minutes silence, nobody wearing the 6 shirt, and as close to 6 minutes after the start as they can a standing ovation is planned, a fine tribute for a fine person, I spoke to him on one occasion, willing to answer the most inane questions with good humour.
I just hope we put in a performance worthy of the effort that Jerry put in for us, especially the first season, a class act.

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Re: Ospreys 2015/16 Season

Post by Cardiff Dave on Sat 12 Sep 2015, 6:16 pm

wayne wrote:
Cardiff Dave wrote:
wayne wrote:Of course I believe them Dave, I'm a pretty cheeky sort of person and have asked people  wearing Ospreys tops do they go to Ospreys games and the vast majority and I'm talking 95% or more say no, and these are not just in our area, apart from days when there are games on I see more Ospreys jerseys than any of the other teams jerseys wherever I go in Wales including the capital. The problem most other teams have, they have a set jersey, we have the same main colours every season, Black at home and White away with the different sponsors on both Jerseys, we also fetch out a Charity jersey which is nothing to do with either of the first team's jerseys colours. The team's supporters I have great admiration for are Munster, whose shirt AFAIK has basically not changed in years and are still top of the pile  

Why?
I wouldn't believe Cardiff bloos if they said today was Wednesday. I'd check elsewhere to be sure. Call it a rugby decision if you like. Still not convinced the Os "sell" more jerseys than say Leinster, Leicester, Northampton, etc.
Dave, I only have to walk around the many towns of South Wales and further afield to see that Ospreys shirts outnumber the shirts of every other "Regional Team", I observed it yesterday in Ikea and the cafe area of Cardiff Bay, these figures have been quoted every year since 2006, so if they were wrong plenty of people have had many opportunities to prove and publish them, so why don't you go and have a look for them.

Top investigative work Columbo and you win I reckon.
I should add that I was in IKEA twice during the last month and didn't spot a single Os jersey. Spotted loads of chairs and tables though.

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Re: Ospreys 2015/16 Season

Post by ScarletSpiderman on Sat 12 Sep 2015, 9:13 pm

wayne wrote:It should be added that tomorrow there is a tribute to Jerry Collins, with a minutes silence, nobody wearing the 6 shirt, and as close to 6 minutes after the start as they can a standing ovation is planned, a fine tribute for a fine person, I spoke to him on one occasion, willing to answer the most inane questions with good humour.
I just hope we put in a performance worthy of the effort that Jerry put in for us, especially the first season, a class act.

Really nice to see that. Hopefully they will get a result that will be a fitting tribute too

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Re: Ospreys 2015/16 Season

Post by wayne on Sat 12 Sep 2015, 9:38 pm

ScarletSpiderman wrote:
wayne wrote:It should be added that tomorrow there is a tribute to Jerry Collins, with a minutes silence, nobody wearing the 6 shirt, and as close to 6 minutes after the start as they can a standing ovation is planned, a fine tribute for a fine person, I spoke to him on one occasion, willing to answer the most inane questions with good humour.
I just hope we put in a performance worthy of the effort that Jerry put in for us, especially the first season, a class act.

Really nice to see that.  Hopefully they will get a result that will be a fitting tribute too
Just hope we put in the commitment you put in today, we really need something out of this game and not just a LBP.

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Re: Ospreys 2015/16 Season

Post by SecretFly on Sat 12 Sep 2015, 10:41 pm

Cardiff Dave wrote:

Top investigative work Columbo and you win I reckon.
I should add that I was in IKEA twice during the last month and didn't spot a single Os jersey. Spotted loads of chairs and tables though.

So they were Dragons fans! What's your problem with them expressing a preference not to wear the O's jersey?

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Re: Ospreys 2015/16 Season

Post by wayne on Sun 13 Sep 2015, 8:03 pm

Thought the respect shown for the memory of Jerry was first class, from the silence for a minute, which for a change in these days actually was for a minute, to the ovation on the 6th minute which was endorsed by Munster supporters as much as our own.

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Re: Ospreys 2015/16 Season

Post by Cardiff Dave on Mon 14 Sep 2015, 11:12 pm

SecretFly wrote:
Cardiff Dave wrote:

Top investigative work Columbo and you win I reckon.
I should add that I was in IKEA twice during the last month and didn't spot a single Os jersey. Spotted loads of chairs and tables though.

So they were Dragons fans!  What's your problem with them expressing a preference not to wear the O's jersey?

Steady on. Chairs and tables are inanimate objects mun.

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Re: Ospreys 2015/16 Season

Post by wayne on Thu 24 Sep 2015, 4:34 pm

Sad news about Rhys Webb, looks as though he is out all season and probably for the NZ tour next summer, according to Ospreys website out for 6 to 8 months including rehab and then fitness work.
I wonder if we will go looking for another 9, with Brendan Leonard and Tom Habberfield as first 2 choices, that is OK, then comes Martin Roberts, what a disaster that is waiting to happen.

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Re: Ospreys 2015/16 Season

Post by Stone Motif on Thu 24 Sep 2015, 6:42 pm

wayne wrote:Sad news about Rhys Webb, looks as though he is out all season and probably for the NZ tour next summer, according to Ospreys website out for 6 to 8 months including rehab and then fitness work.
I wonder if we will go looking for another 9, with Brendan Leonard and Tom Habberfield as first 2 choices, that is OK, then comes Martin Roberts, what a disaster that is waiting to happen.

Look on the bright side. If he'd made the NZ tour he'd quite likely be broke again anyway.

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Re: Ospreys 2015/16 Season

Post by wayne on Sat 26 Sep 2015, 1:53 pm

Is it any wonder that we are the best supported Region, not only are we the cheapest to watch, today we have an offer that for every point Dan Biggar scores, that is the percentage that is reduced for ST holders and Members for any merchandise bought from the Club Shop for the 24 Hours after the match ends, either in person or online. Great offer

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Re: Ospreys 2015/16 Season

Post by Stone Motif on Sat 26 Sep 2015, 5:34 pm

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wayne wrote:Is it any wonder that we are the best supported Region, not only are we the cheapest to watch, today we have an offer that for every point Dan Biggar scores, that is the percentage that is reduced for ST holders and Members for any merchandise bought from the Club Shop for the 24 Hours after the match ends, either in person or online. Great offer

Sickening arrogance.

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