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Post by TRUSSMAN66 on Wed Sep 02, 2015 11:09 pm

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Kind of a proud British institution and rightly so.......The whole world knows James Bond...........

Let's face it that whole Queen thing during 2012 certainly guaranteed SKYFALL was to be a success......She kind of gave it the seal.

Hopkins has played a famous American giant in Nixon and he did a good job.....Got the accent pretty much spot on....and fairplay ..Accents for actors aren't that bigger deal !!

Craig is looking old now and hasn't got long to go.............Should Bond always be British ?? or would you be happy for an American to put on a Brit accent..??

Is Bond sacred ??

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Post by Mr Bounce on Thu Sep 10, 2015 10:04 pm

The press are all clamouring for Idris Elba to be Bond. It is not going to happen. He's 43 now. By the time Daniel Craig has fulfilled his Bond contract in about 3 years time he'll be 46. That is too old for anyone to start playing Bond. I know that Roger Moore played him until he was 57, but despite suspending reality for any Bond film, I cannot accept that a 57 year old knocking hardened agents out with one punch is in any way believable...

One name which hasn't come up in this discussion yet is Henry Cavill. For all his blandness in the Superman film, he's been considered before (he was too young) and has shown he can carry off the suave gentleman in the recent Man from UNCLE film. Damian Lewis could also be seen as too old by the time the gig next comes around. Jack O'Connell is a good shout if the producers want to keep the "thug-style" Bond that is Daniel Craig but he is very young at 25.

However, I think they'll go for a more elegant type of actor - that would point to the well-established Michael Fassbender. A left-field example could be Luke Evans, but it's debatable whether an openly gay actor would be considered for the role. Personally I think he'd do a fantastic job.

I always thought that Lewis Collins, Clive Owen and Dougray Scott would've made great Bonds.

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Post by Galted on Thu Sep 10, 2015 10:54 pm

In these days of the great government austerity drive a Bond from Yorkshire would make a lot of sense. The natural Yorkshire frugality would blend well with the suave ruggedness Yorkshiremen have in abundance. No need for Q and his f*cking gadgets when a shovel and a lantern would do just fine (perhaps a shotgun as well). And no need for a poncy Dunhill lighter, the Yorkshire Bond could light his Capstan Full Strength by rubbing his stubble against a cobbled road to create a flame. It's f*cking ridiculous that we've had Bonds from Scotland, Wales, Ireland and Australia when God's own country is left out. I put it down to petty southerners jealous of Yorkshire.
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Post by Hoggy_Bear on Fri Sep 11, 2015 12:29 am

Charlie Hunnam or Jamie Dornan ould make good Bond's IMHO.

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Post by Rowley on Fri Sep 11, 2015 7:52 am

So what are you saying galted? That I should be the next Bond? I'm up for it if they want to get in touch.

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Post by Galted on Fri Sep 11, 2015 8:01 am

Rowley wrote:So what are you saying galted? That I should be the next Bond? I'm up for it if they want to get in touch.

You or Joe Root. Julius and Shah would make excellent Bond villains.
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Post by Alistair on Fri Sep 11, 2015 9:53 am

Fassbender would be a great choice for Bond, he can certainly pull it off.

I think Cumberbatch though, he's shown in Sherlock he can play the nerdy, geeky type, at the same time he played Khan in Star Trek and pulled off the physical, confrontational side very well.

As for the age thing, Dalton was 43 when he first played Bond.

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Post by Rowley on Fri Sep 11, 2015 9:54 am

Galted wrote:
Rowley wrote:So what are you saying galted? That I should be the next Bond? I'm up for it if they want to get in touch.

You or Joe Root. Julius and Shah would make excellent Bond villains.

Joe Root would be worth it just for the reaction it would cause in the angry Kiwi.

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Post by Mr Bounce on Fri Sep 11, 2015 10:06 am

Alistair wrote:As for the age thing, Dalton was 43 when he first played Bond.

Maybe, but he only did it twice. I think they'd be looking for a bit of longevity and Idris Elba would only be good for a couple of films before he started getting a touch of the Roger Moores.

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Post by Rowley on Fri Sep 11, 2015 10:13 am

Think they are also keen to go with the grittier Bond who looks like he could kick your head in, if this is the case the age thing becomes a bigger factor. The latter Moore films were laughable. I think I could have battered him by then.

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Post by Alistair on Fri Sep 11, 2015 10:13 am

Mr Bounce wrote:
Alistair wrote:As for the age thing, Dalton was 43 when he first played Bond.

Maybe, but he only did it twice. I think they'd be looking for a bit of longevity and Idris Elba would only be good for a couple of films before he started getting a touch of the Roger Moores.

Does it need longevity though, could we not have a transitional Bond?

Dalton was still scheduled to play Bond in Goldeneye even though his contract had expired, he would've been 50 when it started filming.


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Post by Hammersmith harrier on Fri Sep 11, 2015 10:15 am

Tom Hardy, great actor and makes me feel suitably inept as a male to boot.

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Post by Alistair on Fri Sep 11, 2015 10:20 am

Hardy for me is too brash to play Bond. He'd be more suited as a villains henchman. Granted, he'd look like he's going to kick your teeth in, but i can imagine him looking quite clumsy trying to fire a rocket from a pen.

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Post by Rowley on Fri Sep 11, 2015 10:22 am

Fassbender would be my first choice, good age, and the right mixture between suave and a big unit.

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Post by Alistair on Fri Sep 11, 2015 10:27 am

Perhaps he and Cumberbatch could fight it out.

What about Dominic Cooper?

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Post by Stella on Fri Sep 11, 2015 10:34 am

Hardy could pull it off. He pulled Bronson off (not literally), which after seeing him in Layer cake, surprised me.
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Post by Rowley on Fri Sep 11, 2015 10:37 am

I would not have a problem with Hardy. Would not struggle to persuade TSMR to watch Bond again for as long as he was in it, she loves him, as most women seem to do.

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Post by seanmichaels on Fri Sep 11, 2015 10:40 am

Can we leave the Idri elba Love sacks. I am sorry but he is black. That is not racist, it is fact - Bond is the son of a Scottish father, Andrew Bond, of Glencoe, and a Swiss mother, Monique Delacroix, of the Canton de Vaud.[35]

I would go for Richard Armitage, he could bring the cheese back sadly missed in the last few films.

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Post by Stella on Fri Sep 11, 2015 10:42 am

is there still talk of a female bond? Maybe a black female, so everyone can feel happy!
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Post by Rowley on Fri Sep 11, 2015 10:45 am

Stella wrote:is there still talk of a female bond? Maybe a black female, so everyone can feel happy!

Except me, and I take this stuff way more seriously than it deserves.

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Post by Alistair on Fri Sep 11, 2015 10:45 am

Zoe Saldana.

Failing that, Serena Williams. She's brutal. Nobody would mess with her.

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Post by Stella on Fri Sep 11, 2015 10:51 am

Rowley wrote:
Stella wrote:is there still talk of a female bond? Maybe a black female, so everyone can feel happy!

Except me, and I take this stuff way more seriously than it deserves.

The PC brigade will be happy!

Is this definitely Craig's last film? I like him as Bond, though Skyfall was very disappointing, after all the hype.
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Post by Hammersmith harrier on Fri Sep 11, 2015 10:54 am

Bond definitely has to be a white male, I think Idris is brilliant but would much rather he did a couple more series of Luther than go anywhere near Bond.

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Post by Alistair on Fri Sep 11, 2015 10:54 am

He's not confirmed, it's just rumoured.

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Post by Dr Shoe on Fri Sep 11, 2015 11:28 am

I would go with Seann William Scott or Tom Daley

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Post by Rowley on Fri Sep 11, 2015 11:29 am

Dr Shoe wrote:I would go with Seann William Scott or Tom Daley

Not sure Scott is that way inclined. Daley is a possibility though.

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Post by Dr Shoe on Fri Sep 11, 2015 11:35 am

In all seriousness, I could see Rufus Sewell play him. Or a villain. I just want to see Sewell in a Bond film!

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Post by SecretFly on Fri Sep 11, 2015 7:11 pm

Best British Option: Paul Bettany  Cold, cold eyes when needed in the killer zone - a calm elegant warmth otherwise.  World-weary enough.  Coolest British actor on the block.

Well.... maybe Welsh actor Luke Evans has the right look and presence of Bond too.

German/Irish (not British) actor Michael Fassbinder perhaps in the zone but not for me.  Too thespian a build rather than that of a man who has lived a life of danger and physical intensity.

American option - Josh Brolin.  The charisma, the look, the range as an actor to do it with enough subtlety to keep Bond immersed in suave and clinical rather than over-the-top gung ho.

But the perfect Bond is already in situ.  Craig will take a lot of beating and many years will pass before anyone comes close again - black, white, female or LGBT Wink.  
Those ice eyes and that oh so dangerous voice.  Pity the movies themselves often let him down by giving too big a role to his co-stars (cough! Judi Dench).  As always with movie makers, whenever they have a perfect character given to them (Bond/Batman etc) they always try to be smart by giving the bigger roles to anybody but the very heros people come to watch.

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 on Mon Sep 14, 2015 2:43 pm

Think Carl Weathers would have been a better black bond than anyone else I've seen..

Action Jackson was a cracking film..

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Post by seanmichaels on Mon Sep 14, 2015 2:54 pm

Jeff wants Colin Jackson to be the next James Bond.....

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 on Wed Nov 11, 2015 11:31 pm

Damian Lewis odds have been slashed to be the next Bond....Lots of money being splashed on the Homeland star....Smoke without fire ??

Damian Lewis 5/2
Tom Hardy 5/2
Henry Cavill 6/1
Idris Elba 10/1
Michael Fass 14/1....


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Post by Bull on Thu Nov 12, 2015 12:01 am

Fassbender will get the role.

But why not have Pratt? Since he's in everything now anyway. xD

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Post by Marky on Thu Nov 12, 2015 7:57 am

A gay actor wouldn't be an issue, as long as the character didn't become a gay character to please certain easily offended people.

Also Pierce Brosnan was suave and English as Bond, and he's Irish. So I don't think the actor's heritage is an issue as long as he can play the role properly.

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Post by Guest on Thu Nov 12, 2015 2:30 pm

Perhaps bond could become a gay, black, amputee so as to offend absolutely no-one

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Post by rick_dagless on Thu Nov 12, 2015 2:43 pm

What about racist, homophobic, limbophiles... They would be well offended.

Despite having friends who are rainbow coloured with an arbritrary amount of limbs, and are tri-sexual, GOSPEL.

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Post by seanmichaels on Thu Nov 12, 2015 2:59 pm

Heather Mills might get offended for being overlooked for the role.

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Post by Guest on Thu Nov 12, 2015 5:43 pm

Tom Hardy or Phillip Winchester, for me.

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 on Thu Nov 12, 2015 5:49 pm

Not sure Hardy is interested...

He gets interesting roles....May feel Bond could change all that..

Besides Craig was excellent...I'd rather follow a dud like Dalton than compete with him..

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Post by Guest on Fri Nov 13, 2015 12:46 pm

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Post by SecretFly on Fri Nov 13, 2015 1:52 pm

seanmichaels wrote:Heather Mills might get offended for being overlooked for the role.

I think Heather would be great for the villain role. Foxfur Fanny - lethal assassin with disguised sniper rifle components making up her false leg.

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Post by Guest on Fri Nov 13, 2015 2:42 pm

Also a face that could disembowel a cow a fifty metres

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 on Sun Nov 22, 2015 8:41 pm

No way should Fassbender be Bond...

An alpha male should get the role..

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 on Wed May 25, 2016 4:40 pm

Tom Hiddleston 1/2 for the role..............

You don't get odds like that unless its pretty much signed and sealed...

Looks like Elba will miss out..

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Post by Guest on Wed May 25, 2016 4:44 pm

Don't see Hiddleston as an Alpha male type though. He's more the Gary Oldman/Tim Roth British baddie. Look at the ad he did for Jaguar, he's perfect Bond villain material...not that they'd know a decent Bond villain if it took over the world and stroked a white cat on the front steps of Buckingham palace whilst a pack of robo-dogs ate the Queen's corpse

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Post by Guest on Wed May 25, 2016 6:32 pm

Craig has done such a good job, it's like following on from Sir Alex or along those lines. Add in that Hiddlestone is not unanimously wanted in he first place, unfortunately points towards a George Lazenby type lifespan as James Bond.

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Post by SecretFly on Wed May 25, 2016 7:11 pm

TRUSSMAN66 wrote:Tom Hiddleston 1/2 for the role..............

You don't get odds like that unless its pretty much signed and sealed...

Looks like Elba will miss out..

Elba has been kinda doing some shooting of his own foot in recent times when he lamented 'growing old'.

Not a good start for a new Bond. "OH your hips need replacing already James? And we haven't even finished the first prologue action scene"

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Post by Mr Bounce on Wed May 25, 2016 9:21 pm

Elba did "Bastille Day" which showed he clearly wasn't "right" for the Bond role IMHO. He's all wrong for the role. A fantastic actor, but he's as much James Bond material as Sandi Toksvig.

I think Hiddleston could work quite well as we need a more suave Bond as a contrast to Craig's blunt instrument. However, he does lack a bit of physicality. I'm sure the gym monkeys will have him work on that.

I personally would have liked Henry Cavill but maybe he's unavailable.

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Post by westisbest on Wed May 25, 2016 9:51 pm

Think Cavill ould be a good Bond, also Fassbender.

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Post by SecretFly on Thu May 26, 2016 9:51 am

Mr Bounce wrote:

I think Hiddleston could work quite well as we need a more suave Bond as a contrast to Craig's blunt instrument.

So it's back to Bonkin' Bond - to re-interest the ladies?

Oh Dear.............. no more Bonds for me for a decade or so.... Whistle

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 on Thu May 26, 2016 10:02 am

It's amazing looking back at just what a perfect fit Connery was for the role....Owned the screen..

If there is an X factor Connery had it.......

In fact they shouldn't have a second best Bond......It should go from number 1 to 3...Such is the difference...

Goldfinger for me will always be the film...

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Post by SecretFly on Thu May 26, 2016 10:32 am

But Goldfinger was more than Connery.  
Goldfinger had the 60s,
Goldfinger had people who knew the art of cinema (a knowledge that's dying out fast),
Goldfinger had John Barry (in my opinion 3/4 of the lure of Bond actually, as his music was often more 'visually' compelling than the movies themselves)
Goldfinger had Gert Fröbe - a guy who always allowed his characters to loom larger than life.

I always say Daniel Craig's Bond was wasted by Production people that don't know (or probably care) how large a canvas the movie screen can be.  
Sam Mendes - you just can see his constant yearning for the intimacy of a stage.  The scripts, too wordy, too pseudo-deep - and too many of the bit characters (M) get far too much screen time.

Had Craig the guys who made the 60s movies.... then things would have been perfect. Cool

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