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Bangladesh-A and South Africa in India

Post by KP_fan on Tue 08 Sep 2015, 1:54 pm

First topic message reminder :

In preparation for the South Africans, BCCI has invited BD-A.

and banglas have reciprocated "the honor" of being invited to India finally, the only country where they have not played a test match.....by sending a full strength international side as their A side.


It is being reported Kohli and Dhoni will play the ODIs vs BD-A , which are likely to be serious games...
and we are likely to see most of India ODI and test players warm up in these 5 games vs, BD-A

also India plays 5 ODIs/ T20s vs SA before the tests start...so there will be ample of orientation time.
Good Move by BCCI OK



Bangladesh A in India 2015 September 8, 2015 Mominul to lead strong Bangladesh A squadMOHAMMAD ISAM 14  Facebook Twitter 34 shares
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File photo: Mominul Haque will captain a 15-man Bangladesh A team, 14 of whom have played international cricket ©️ AFP
Mominul Haque will lead a strong Bangladesh A team for their tour to India later this month. The 15-member squad consists of 14 internationals including Al-Amin Hossain, who has been out of representative cricket since the World Cup.

"Its my first tour abroad as a captain so looking ahead to make it memorable," Mominul told ESPNcricinfo. "It wont be easy considering we will be playing against the Indians at their own backyard but I am confident that we can put up a good show considering our strength. I think we have got an experienced squad and it will be good for our preparation ahead of the series against Australia."

Saqlain Sajib, the left-arm spinner, is the only uncapped player in the squad and it is learned that he was picked as cover for Taijul Islam, who has been given two weeks' rest to recover from jaundice.

Bangladesh A tour of India
Sept 16 - 1st one-dayer v India A, Bangalore
Sept 18 - 2nd one-dayer v India A, Bangalore
Sept 20 - 3rd one-dayer v India A, Bangalore
Sept 22-24 - Three-day match v Karnataka, Mysore
Sept 27-29 - Three day match v India A, Bangalore
Al-Amin, who was sent home from Australia in February after a disciplinary breach, is one of four seamers in the team. Taskin Ahmed has been passed fit and will likely play multi-day cricket for the first time in over two years when Bangladesh A meet India A and Ranji Trophy champions Karnataka in Bangalore and Mysore. Rubel Hossain and Shafiul Islam complete the quartet.

Anamul Haque, who lost his place in the senior side after injuring his shoulder in the World Cup, has been included in the A team while Soumya Sarkar, Liton Das and Sabbir Rahman are some of the other upcoming batsmen who have played international cricket in this team.

Nasir Hossain and Mominul are the senior batsmen in the side, and Shuvagata Hom, who last played the solitary Test against India, is one of the batting allrounders in the side.

Bangladesh A squad: Anamul Haque, Rony Talukdar, Liton Das, Sabbir Rahman, Soumya Sarker, Mominul Hoque (capt), Nasir Hossain, Saqlain Sajib, Arafat Sunny, Rubel Hossain, Shafiul Islam, Al-Amin Hossain, Taskin Ahmed, Shuvagata Hom, Jubair Hossain.

Mohammad Isam is ESPNcricinfo's Bangladesh correspondent. @isam84

©️ ESPN Sports Media Ltd.

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Re: Bangladesh-A and South Africa in India

Post by msp83 on Mon 05 Oct 2015, 2:54 pm

The 2nd T-20I underway, India put into bat. They are 28without loss in the 4th over.
A change each for both sides. Srinath Aravind is out, and in comes Harbhajan Singh. Thought Amit Mishra would have been a better choice, but if this lets Mishra focus on his bowling in tests, I'll take it. Now that Harbhajan is selected, it is tough to just keep him on bench duties....... Wouldn't have selected him myself. He might still be able to bring something to the T-20I format, Turn and bounce aren't the greatest strengths there, its the experience and the ability to read the next attacking move of the batsman that is more important, and Bhaji certainly is experienced....... And he can smoke them big when it clicks for him with the bat.
Albie Morkel comes in for de Lange as far as South Africa is concerned, gives them more depth in the batting department.

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Post by msp83 on Mon 05 Oct 2015, 2:57 pm

India losing their way, first Shikhar Dhawan fell LBW to Chris Morris, then Virat Kohli got run-out first ball, going for a second that wasn't there. They are 32-2 in the 5th over. Wasted powerplay.......

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Post by msp83 on Mon 05 Oct 2015, 3:02 pm

Everything rest on Raina and Wonderboy! Hopefully Wonderboy isn't done for the year with his innings in the first game. And he has added responsibility today as he managed to have Kohli run-out.......

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Post by msp83 on Mon 05 Oct 2015, 3:07 pm

RunRate under 6 for the last couple of overs, 41-2 after 7.

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Post by msp83 on Mon 05 Oct 2015, 3:13 pm

Now Rohit gets himself run-out. India tottering at 43-3 as the 8th over is coming to a close.

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Post by msp83 on Mon 05 Oct 2015, 3:18 pm

Now Rayudu bowled of a full-toss! India 45-4....... Can the skipper come to the party?

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Post by msp83 on Mon 05 Oct 2015, 4:02 pm

Complete calamity of a batting performance from India, struggling to bat out their overs. 87-9 at the moment, into the 17th over....... SA absolutely smashing India here.......

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Post by msp83 on Mon 05 Oct 2015, 4:12 pm

So it is 92 all out.......
SA should walk it.......

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Post by kingraf on Mon 05 Oct 2015, 5:00 pm

Little nervy, but should still be a comfortable enough win
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Post by msp83 on Mon 05 Oct 2015, 5:05 pm

Ashwin finishes with 3-24 in his 4, and Harbhajan finishes with 0-20 in his 4 overs. SA well on course though, they are 57-3 after 10. As the 2 spinners are already bowled out, SA have the game pretty much under control.......

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Post by kingraf on Mon 05 Oct 2015, 5:13 pm

Good bet Cuttack doesn't get another international for a while
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Post by msp83 on Mon 05 Oct 2015, 6:29 pm

Some Kolkata like behavior from the spectators, pelting bottles on to the ground repeatedly and holding play up for around 50 minutes across 2 stoppages ....... South Africa registering a comfortable win in the end, 6 wicket win....... And JPD was at the end yet again.
What a shame things have to take an ugly turn....... People have to be a lot more mature than this. Really sad.......

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Post by KP_fan on Mon 05 Oct 2015, 9:26 pm

Dhoni loses.....again Shocked
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Post by LondonTiger on Tue 06 Oct 2015, 12:27 pm

Unhappy with Dhoni's reaction:

MS Dhoni wrote:"Frankly, from a safety point of view, I don't think there was a very serious threat. A few of the powerful people from the crowd were good enough to throw the bottles inside the rope. So the umpires thought it was better that players go off the field for a while. The reaction of the crowd, you know, we didn't play well, so at times you get reactions like this. It's only the first bottle. After that they start throwing for fun. We shouldn't read too much into it. I still remember we played in Vishakhapatnam once, we won the game very easily, and that time also a lot of bottles were thrown. It starts with the first bottle, and after that, you know, it is more fun for the spectators if they start doing it and following it."

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Post by msp83 on Tue 06 Oct 2015, 4:05 pm

MS was trying to downplay the issue, but it was in pretty poor taste and can't be brushed aside, Think they shouldn't give Cuttack any games including IPL games for a couple of years at least.

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Post by msp83 on Sun 11 Oct 2015, 7:53 am

The ODI series underway, SA batting first and are 250-5 in 47 overs. AB still at the crease and if he bats through,, can still inflict some serious damage. Already on 76 by the way.......
The bowlers have so far stuck to their task, but the massive, massive worry for India is that Ravichandran Ashwin bowled only 4 overs and seems to have injured himself. The extent of the injury isn't clear, but he's absolutely key for the tests.
Perhaps, they shouldn't wait for the test series to bring back Sir Jadeja! Anyways, if there is any concern about Ashwin's fitness, he just shouldn't play the remaining ODIs.......

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Post by msp83 on Sun 11 Oct 2015, 8:09 am

So SA finish with a carnage in the last 3 overs and they end up with 303-5. AB remains unbeaten on 104, and Farhan Behardien joined in the funn, smoking 35 of 19. AB's 104 came of 73 balls, rather pedestrian by his standards!

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Post by msp83 on Sun 11 Oct 2015, 8:11 am

Hopefully, Dhawan and the Wonder can give India a good start against Steyn and Morkel. If they let Steyn get the better of them early, this chase will be done right away.
As Rahane is playing, imagine MS will come down the order. Hope he comes in at 5 and Raina at 6 rather than the other way round if required.......

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Post by ShankyCricket on Sun 11 Oct 2015, 12:14 pm

Terrible innings by Rohit Sharma. Out for only 150. Can't finish off a game. Can't see his side home. Couldn't complement Rahane's swashbuckling 82 ball 60. Terrible player. DROP HIM PLEASE! DROP HIM!

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Post by ShankyCricket on Sun 11 Oct 2015, 1:18 pm

ShankyCricket wrote:Terrible innings by Rohit Sharma. Out for only 150. Can't finish off a game. Can't see his side home. Couldn't complement Rahane's swashbuckling 82 ball 60. Terrible player. DROP HIM PLEASE! DROP HIM!
And his terrible dismissal cost BCCI the match. What a clown!

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Post by protea438 on Sun 11 Oct 2015, 2:16 pm

Well done KG, good for the youngster.

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Post by KP_fan on Sun 11 Oct 2015, 4:07 pm

Dhoni loses...again
Timid defensive captaincy.
Didn't want to take wickets...even when he saw ashwin spin it square and get a wicket in his first over
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Post by KP_fan on Sun 11 Oct 2015, 4:23 pm

Rohit did just about enough in tests in SL and wonderfully well in limited over games to assure himself a place in the test 11
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Post by ShankyCricket on Sun 11 Oct 2015, 4:38 pm

He was very good in the last 2 Tests. He top scored out of the top 7 batsmen in the second innings at the SSC on a green top coming in at 7/3!! Any other batsman would've been lauded for playing a "crisis knock" like that on that surface, and getting his side out of trouble into a position of strength but because it was Rohit, he was criticised for not converting it into a hundred!!!!! Even in the first innings, he came in under difficult circumstances and whilst he did not score big, he had a good partnership with Pujara (who should also be in the Test XI btw in my opinion) and saw off the new ball. He consumed 70 odd deliveries for his 26 runs coming in at 60/3 with the ball still relatively new. He saw off the new(ish) ball and got them to a respectable position. Yes, he got out but that can happen to anyone on that surface. He played the moving ball far better than Kohli in that match and indeed had a better series than Rahane. Now not saying he is a better Test batsman than either of those 2, nor am I saying that he deserves the unconditionally long rope that Kohli and Shastri seem to be countenancing but he certainly did enough in SL to show that he is an improved batsman and did enough to be persisted with. Yes, he struggled overseas but I don't see people abusing Dhawan and Pujara for that and he got a much shorter rope in overseas Tests than those 2 in the first place.

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Post by KP_fan on Sun 11 Oct 2015, 8:59 pm

Yeah he just about did enuf to hang on to his test spot.
Nailing it.....would b what Pujara did with his solitary test match

Rahane cannot be spoken in same breath in tests as rohit....he is technically far superior and has done consistently a lot.

Anyway Rohit having seen thru difficult overseas patches.
..just about hanging on to a test spot now gets his favourite home tracks and must make it count BIG...
India will go with 6 batrers
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Post by ShankyCricket on Sun 11 Oct 2015, 10:20 pm

KP_fan wrote:Yeah he just about did enuf to hang on to his test spot.
Nailing it.....would b what Pujara did with his solitary test match

Rahane cannot be spoken in same breath in tests as rohit....he is technically far superior and has done consistently a lot.

Anyway Rohit having seen thru difficult overseas patches.
..just about hanging on to a test spot now gets his favourite home tracks and must make it count BIG...

India will go with 6 batrers

How is that any different to Dhawan? Yet I'm sure even if Rohit scores heavily at home, they'll be termed as "easy runs" in home conditions coming at an "easy position" but when Dhawan scores runs at home, he was just "out of form" overseas and is now "back to his best". The hypocrisy is what I hate. I am not a Rohit fan. Far from it. In fact, I quite dislike him, find him rather arrogant and want him to fail but lets not make him out to be a Devang Gandhi! He hasn't cemented his place by any means but the way people talk about him, its as if the entire failure of Indian Test cricket is surrounded around him. He was the sole scapegoat on social media for the defeat at Galle yet there was hardly a murmur when he was India's best batsman across the next 2 Tests, which they won. People even used his failure in one innings in Bangladesh when he "failed" while the team were clearly looking to score quick runs after a big opening partnership to make up for the lost time due to rain as evidence that he can't play Test cricket. I mean seriously, how uncommon is it for a batsman to fail after sitting in the dressing room waiting to bat for 2 days across a 250 run partnership? But because it was Rohit Sharma, even that was used as a stick to beat him up with. And in his only series in India, he was your leading run scorer despite batting at 6, scoring 288 runs in 2 innings, both of which in which he had to played two entirely different types of innings. One, a rescue act with the team at 77/5 and another in which he shepherded the tail to score a hundred. It was almost a perfect performance from a No6 playing both the extreme type of innings that one could be expected to play at that number. Yet those performances are dismissed as being "at home" and against "only West Indies" by the same people who seem to value Dhawan's runs vs Bangladesh in a meaningless rained off Test. Yes, he failed in SA but its hardly a crime to fail against Steyn and co in their backyard in your first series especially when its just 2 Tests. Contrary to popular opinion, he actually had a pretty good series in NZ, averaging 40, had 2 good innings and 2 bad ones (just like Dhawan, of course Dhawan's big innings was a 100, in which he was dropped on 0 and a 98, his other 2 scores were 0 and 2. So it could easily have been 2 ducks and a 2). Rohit's good innings were a 70 odd when he got out whilst batting with the lower order and the other a 30 not out to take the team to safety after 3 early wickets with the new ball. His innings were a lot more assured in defence than Dhawan's too. Yet for Dhawan, those 2 good scores were seen as "coming good overseas" whereas no one even realised that Rohit had averaged 40 in the series and as per the usual lazy internet narrative, he was termed a failure. He was then dropped (despite a decent series in NZ) by a captain who is supposedly biased to him in favour of Stuart Binny. Then he was picked for one Test and dropped again. He was picked in Aus and was dropped after only 2 Tests and then brought back 1 Test later at a different position, where he hasn't batted much even in domestic first class cricket. So this theory of him being given a "long rope" in Tests is just typically lazy and is a hangover from the pre-2013 ODI days. He has had a much shorter rope than Dhawan who played 3 Tests each in Eng and Aus, scoring a grand total of 1 fifty in 12 innings, yet all that was seemingly forgotten the moment he racked up a hundred vs Bangladesh. The logic is, he is good in the subcontinent, so why not let him play here? So why not the same logic with Rohit? He hasn't done much wrong in the subcontinent yet and hasn't done much worse than Dhawan overseas despite getting a shorter rope, was absolutely phenomenal in his only series in India, yet his potential Test inclusion is being seen as the major roadblock for an Indian series win. Seriously, some people need to get over their personal hatred and enjoy a much improved cricketer. He has become an absolutely world class ODI cricketer yet his every good limited overs innings, instead of being applauded for its value, is being looked at with antipathy for the fear of his Test inclusion. Seriously, some people need to get a life with their Rohit obsession. The guy can bat.

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Post by KP_fan on Mon 12 Oct 2015, 6:47 am

Dhawan was in the same boat as Rohit..
Lost his place to Rahul.
Was lucky that he broke back only due to injury.
And if he doesn't deliver he will go back in reserves and Rahul I'm playing 11
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Post by msp83 on Mon 12 Oct 2015, 2:48 pm

Disappointing loss despite a fine innings from Wonderboy. He didn't deserve to lose that game after playing such a good innings.
Losing (the much maligned) led spinner on top form, in the middle of a good spell was massive, and Roger's son the ultimate all-rounder couldn't deliver with ball and couldn't produce any surprise with the bat either. Raina had to bowl more than he would have done otherwise.
And when with the bat, Rahane, though he made important runs, couldn't always keep up with the tempo necessary for the innings. Dhawan failed upfront, and Kohli's was a timid and useless innings. Despite all the talk, he hasn't done much throughout the T-20s or the ODI here. Raina didn't come to the party, Binny, supposedly, the big hitting all-rounder couldn't get much away.
Mahendra Singh Dhoni would be one of world's greatest finishers when it comes to the ODI format, but he hasn't been the same force for the last year or so. So he couldn't the save the situation either, in fact his failure to get away boundaries eventually proved rather costly for India.

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Post by msp83 on Mon 12 Oct 2015, 2:57 pm

There is a structural problem with the side. Dhoni as I wrote above, isn't the same player any more, but he's still one of the better ODI batsman in India. Ambati Rayudu, Ajinkya Rahane, Suresh Raina. Amohg the 3, it is only Raina who is good enough to bat 5 or 6. Rahane is good only in the top order, and there too, he hasn't taken his chances, hasn't done anywhere near enough to hold on to his position. Rayudu seems a rather limited batsman. Not good for a finishing job, not as good an innings builder as Dhoni or even Rahane is. So between the 4 of them, Dhoni, Raina, Rahane and Rayudu, only 2 can play in the present side, and they are Dhoni and Raina. We need a better number 6, not many from the current pool seem to fit the bill. Perhaps Kedar Jadhav. Among the youngsters, Gurkirat Singh Man is a good bet. I thought at the time of his selection that it is a season too early for him, but now that he's in the mix, might as well give him a go, give him a run and see what he can do. Among the upcoming players Shreyas Iyer has the looks of a proper batsman who can go on the attack right away if needed. Hartik Pandya is an all-rounder who is an attacking batsman. They both are very new to even FC cricket, and wouldn't have learned a great deal in the IPL, and so would need some more time. Till then, may be they can go back to someone like Yusaf Pathan. But he's more of a 7 than a 6, as he really can't be expected to do anything other than slog....... Or they should bring in someone like Manish Pandey in at 5 and push Raina down to 6.

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Post by msp83 on Mon 12 Oct 2015, 3:07 pm

And the selectors have gone back to Harbhajan Singh yet again. He has been called up as injury replacement for Ravichandran Ashwin. If at all they had any bit of doubt about Ashwin's fitness, they are absolutely right to rest him, but Harbhajan? Seriously? For what? Why? He has made it very clear through his performances on test and limited overs return that he has very much become yesterday's hero, a hero, but of a different time frame. The body isn't willing any more to putting all of it into the bowling so that the ball would things for him. All that he can do now is to bowl flat and quick and expect to keep the runs down. With the likes of AB in the mix in the opposition ranks, that wouldn't make any difference.......
Ravindra Jadeja, when fully fit, and when in the groove, is a fine ODI bowler. His bowling had suffered after he had to undergo the shoulder surgery. He's gone back to domestic cricket and is terrorizing batsman out there. Div C of Ranji is not much of a competition, but the thing with Jadeja is more about his fitness and bowling pattern, and he's certainly seems to be closer to his best out there, has been miles above any other bowler in Div C in the Ranji trophy in the 2 games he played, even scored some runs! Any day a much better choice than Bhaji, can field for sure, is a better bowler at this stage, and might come off more with the bat too.......

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Post by msp83 on Mon 12 Oct 2015, 3:28 pm

It has to be noted that Virat Kohli has been more talk and less substance throughout this year, averaging under 30 with the bat....... Has been doing pretty much fine in tests, but in ODIs, he has been rather pedestrian for some time.
Of course he's been one of India's best ODI batsmen in the last few years, and as such, his struggles haven't helped the team at all.......

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Post by msp83 on Mon 12 Oct 2015, 3:59 pm

Coming back to the Rohit situation.
Shanky, you seem to be missing the point. You are comparing Rohit's performances to those of Shikhar Dhawan. Now, Dhawan hasn't done well overseas, and lost his place too, came back only because KL Rahul got ill, and then he took his chance, not with knocks of 26 and 34, but with 171 and 134....... But the larger point is that when Rohit is preferred, it is Cheteshwar Pujara and not Dhawan who is sitting out. Pujara who averages in the late 40s when he was dropped for Rohit who was averaging just about 30..... Pujara who averages 80 + in Asian conditions, Pujara who scored double hundreds against England and Australia, Pujara who scored a hundred against Steyn and co in South Africa. Yes Pujara failed, but looking at your defense of Rohit in New Zealand, Pujara never failed. Look at the number of balls he played out in England, he did make 50s in England and Australia, and batted out many balls and saw the new ball off. Not against the terrors of Sri Lankan seamers, but against proper seam-swing-fast bowlers.
Just because he can play some pleasing shots, and just because he made a couple of 20s and 30s which is not the norm, it soesn't mean he has to be automatically counted as one of the best 5 batsmen in the country. The suggestion that Sharma is a better test batsman than Pujara is, is absolutely ridiculous! That is where there was a problem, there is where all the questions came, and each and every one of them were absolutely justified.

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Post by KP_fan on Mon 12 Oct 2015, 4:34 pm

Yes, it's everyone's fault but dhoni's captaincy at fault Wink
To me...as I have said for a long time
...he doesn't know, and doesn't even think bowlers can be used to win games.
A decent captain on this pitch would have restricted SA to 250ish
He just doesn't know how to use bowlers.

This too will become evident when Dhoni's replaced
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Post by msp83 on Mon 12 Oct 2015, 6:13 pm

When a batsman like AB de Villiers gets going, the best of the captains and bowlers can't do much. As for restricting the opposition, remember we aren't talking about Sri Lanka who's batting in recent times was all about Angelo and Sanga. Even then, we all saw how Captain Talk lost the plot when Chandimal went mental!!

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Post by KP_fan on Tue 13 Oct 2015, 8:31 am

msp83 wrote:When a batsman like AB de Villiers gets going, the best of the captains and bowlers can't do much. As for restricting the opposition, remember we aren't talking about Sri Lanka who's batting in recent times was all about Angelo and Sanga. Even then, we all saw how Captain Talk lost the plot when Chandimal went mental!!

1) why did ABDV get going so easily?

because Dhoni removed Ashwin after 1 over...and immediately resorted to bowling 5th / 6th bowlers.....keeping Ashwin for later to minimize the damage at the end of the inning.

another positive captain :
would have bowled ashwin for about 5 to 6 overs...maybe with mishra in tandem, with a few close in fielders.... and tried to pluck out 4 wickets at the top.
wouldn't succeed necessarily all the times.....but can only work out when a captain tries.....and will work out about 5 to 7 times....means that in those 5 to 7 games...your team is chasing 220 to 250

with Dhoni's way......it's atleast 300 balpak each time chase.
he doesn't know how to use bowlers to set up the games for him.

2) That chadimal went after Indians....
who won the series ?
chandimal and mathews tried going after the Indians again and again....but India prevailed and won an overseas series Very Happy





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Post by msp83 on Wed 14 Oct 2015, 6:19 pm

India levels the ODI series as they win the 2nd ODI by 22 runs.
Ajinkya Rahane made 51, and there a few lower order runs from Axar Patel, Harbhajan Singh and Bhuvneshwar Kumar. Virat Kohli failed yet again, so did Shikhar Dhawan and Suresh Raina. Rohit Sharma, who the SA bowling coach wanted to get out before he faces 10 balls, got out of the 10th ball of the innings.
India lost half their side for just around hundred, they were 165-7, but eventually posted 247 and batted out their 50 overs. Axar and Bhuvneshwar then took 3 wickets each, and Harbhajan chipped in with 2. SA were bowled out for 225 in the 44th over.

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Post by msp83 on Wed 14 Oct 2015, 6:29 pm

The man who held it all together for India was the man they were sharpening their knives for. The man who some felt should retire, some felt he should be sacked.
Mahendra Singh Dhoni came in as his batsmen started letting the side down one after the other, saw them continuing on the same way, then took it upon himself to see them through to a decent total in the company of the lower order. He started slowly, showed now and then that he still has the game to thrive against the best, and then let himself go in the end overs. He finished 92 not out of 86 balls and helped the side bat out the overs.
Then he led well in the field, Axar, who came in for the legendary all-rounder Stuart Binny bowled pretty well, and Harbhajan bowled OK to support him. Bhaji was lucky with the wwicket of Farhan Behardien as umpire Vineet Kulkarni added one more to his growing list of blunders. Dhoni was unusually animated on the field, and even spoke a bit like that at the end.

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Post by msp83 on Wed 14 Oct 2015, 7:04 pm

Though India did win, there are concerns.
First concern is Virat Kohli. Virat hasn't been the same ODI batsman after the England series of last year. He has been far too inconsistent, those assured innings have come few and far in between. India need their 2nd best ODI batsman to come good pretty soon. At least with the performance today, the best has started the process.
The 2nd is selection isues. Roger's son was rightly dropped. but I am not sure the same can be said about Amit Mishra. They would have had Harbhajan the offspinner in for offspinner Ravichandran Ashwin who is injured. Bhaji has his experience as well. Mohit Sharma for Mishra seems to have worked for today, but I feel Mishra might have worked even better. He's bowling pretty well, bowled well in the last game too. Can bat a bit, and the Saffers do not play spin well apart from AB and Amla. Umesh Yadav has pace, and he's not a one trick wonder like Aaron. But Yadav is struggling at the moment. Didn't even pick up a wicket in the Ranji game he played before coming into the series. So perhaps Mishra in for Yadav for the next game. I am not a big fan of Mohit, but until Mohammed Shami is back to fitness, we will have to make due with him. Hopefully, today's performance would have given Bhuvneshwar Kumar some much needed confidence.
In the batting department, Dhawan hasn't come good aet, but he has been doing quite OK in recent times. Raina is emerging as a major concern. Particulary as Kohli is struggling and Dhoii is going through a process of reinventing himself, Raina has to take up a great deal more responsibility. But he's failing consistently instead. If he fails in the next game, then they should bring in Gurkirat Singh Man for the remaining 2 games.

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Post by KP_fan on Wed 14 Oct 2015, 8:20 pm

Dhoni won finally.
Lighting a fire under his a-s-s worked for now....

he trails now 3-1 in limited over games on his own home turf...he was 2 games away from being sacked before today and is 3 games away now.

hard for him to last.

Raina has one more game to save himself....else Gurkeerat will play and jadhav will come in the squad
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Post by msp83 on Wed 14 Oct 2015, 8:33 pm

And hopefully, Kohli will score some runs before he eventually takes over in limited overs....... His last significant ODI contribution was in that WC game against Pakistan.......

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Post by msp83 on Wed 14 Oct 2015, 8:54 pm

One thing that has to be noted today was that the team was really behind Dhoni, they have clearly been backing him, and that was quite on show towards the end of the India innings. And that certainly includes Virat Kohli....... The best that Virat and the rest of them can do is to start performing consistently though.......

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Post by KP_fan on Wed 14 Oct 2015, 9:16 pm

if he is wise.....he will quit soon.
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Post by msp83 on Wed 14 Oct 2015, 9:24 pm

If Dhoni goes, who will take over? The logical choice at this stage has to be Virat, but he has been a wreck in ODI cricket for a year now.......

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Post by KP_fan on Thu 15 Oct 2015, 8:40 am

It will be Kohli
and if he doesn't deliver..then there is Rahane
and then there is Ashwin....don't write if off as a captaincy material.....in the long term.....he will captain India at some point.
Ashwin is the only guy assured of a place in all forms along with Rahane and Kohli....I would make him the VC for all forms...and would put him ahead of Rahane for captaincy
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Post by msp83 on Thu 15 Oct 2015, 3:34 pm

Not sure Rahane is assured of a place across formats. He has to be among the first names in tests, but in both limited over formats, he hasn't done enough to be an automatic selection. Hopefully, this series where in he managed a couple of decent scores, would be the beginning of a turnaround series for him in ODIs.

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Post by KP_fan on Thu 15 Oct 2015, 3:52 pm

msp83 wrote:Not sure Rahane is assured of a place across formats. He has to be among the first names in tests, but in both limited over formats, he hasn't done enough to be an automatic selection. Hopefully, this series where in he managed a couple of decent scores, would be the beginning of a turnaround series for him in ODIs.

Rahane has done plenty of consistent scores....40s , 50s......and we need an innings builder who can also play strokes.
he is not a 120% SR guy but rather an 80% one

Raina is the one reached the end of the rope.....he will last as long as Bhai lasts at most
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Post by msp83 on Thu 15 Oct 2015, 6:57 pm

An innings builder will have to score 70s, 80s and hundreds. Rahane hasn't quite done that and he has done it consistently. If you get to 50 at an SR of 75, you have to convert it into a bigger innings and pick up the scoring in the process. Rahane hasn't been performing anywhere near his ability in limited over formats. These couple of games he has started well, now hopefully a big knock or 2 will come to give him confidence and establish himself in the side.

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Post by KP_fan on Thu 15 Oct 2015, 9:04 pm

rarely do you find a player who becomes settled from the very start.
Often times you back one on potential.

Rahane has demonstrated excellent qualities especially in non patta overseas pitches.

the one to be concerned about is Raina
and given that Ind played only 5 batsmen......can't afford to carry a passenger
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Post by KP_fan on Fri 16 Oct 2015, 9:56 am

Zaheer Khan retires.....with 311 test match wickets

Undoubtedly India's 2nd greatest seamer...behind Kapil and IMO ahead of Srinath.
Zaheer plucked a lot more wickets on Patta pitches, lasted longer in an environment where there was generally a lot more cricket played than in Srinath's time
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A real favorite of mine, a terrific match-winner who mastered all the different balls and different conditions.

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