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Post by super_realist on Tue 01 Sep 2015, 1:50 pm

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It's more the leaving it to the last minute which is nonsense. It is appalling business practice for the buyer to do this, as the seller knows they can keep the price high.

What is the point in the window being open for two months if nothing gets done until the last day? Just make it a day long, the opposite of a DFS sale.

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Post by incontinentia on Thu 10 Sep 2015, 12:13 pm

MustPuttBetter wrote:Are you really considering housing someone Inco?
I'm not sure how I feel about this idea, Yvette Cooper and co coming out and saying she could take 3 etc. it's a very kind thing to offer to do.
Yes, I have a spare room or two in my house, and it would be nice to help out.
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Post by MustPuttBetter on Thu 10 Sep 2015, 12:21 pm

Good on you Inco. As I say, it's a nice thing to do.
Any word yet how long the idea is to keep them etc?
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Post by westisbest on Thu 10 Sep 2015, 12:23 pm

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incontinentia wrote:Super, if you were allowed to bring your jar of sheep entrails through customs I'm sure you would be scrambling for those whilst evacuating.

I really think there are more important things to be getting fussed about, such as the refugee crisis. Would any of you folks house refugees? I'm considering it myself, although Ireland is only taking a pitiful 1,800.

Why would a refugee want to move to Ireland?

As for housing them, I can't stand if a friend stays for more than a night.

Why wouldnt a refugee want to move to Ireland, in your opinion.

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Post by super_realist on Thu 10 Sep 2015, 12:25 pm

It's an "in" joke with Inco and I. Goes back a long time.

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Post by westisbest on Thu 10 Sep 2015, 12:28 pm

Re the plane issue, You would be pretty psd off if someone was trying to take down a big case that would have been better suited to the hold, holding people up.

Like MPB, I would want to get my son and wife out of that plane asap.

If i was on my own i would certainly help a family who were in a row next to me or behind, in front, if they looked like they were struggling.

Surely the main objective is survival, worry about what belongings were left on the plane once you, or your family if you are with them are safe.

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Post by incontinentia on Thu 10 Sep 2015, 12:50 pm

Looks like Jack Grealish is to declare for England rather than Ireland. Disappointing from an Irish point of view, but I suppose Jack will see it as a marginally increased likelihood of winning a medal.
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Post by super_realist on Thu 10 Sep 2015, 12:52 pm

Well, he fits in with the English international persona of being a complete and utter dick

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Post by MustPuttBetter on Thu 10 Sep 2015, 1:01 pm

I don't think Grealish will ever live up to the hype and will get anywhere near the English team so probably a bad decision from him
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Post by beninho on Thu 10 Sep 2015, 1:11 pm

I love how someone that is not known personally or in any way, is declared a dick. What makes him a dick?

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Post by super_realist on Thu 10 Sep 2015, 1:12 pm

I didn't say he was a dick, I said he has the persona of one.

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Post by GunsGerms on Thu 10 Sep 2015, 1:29 pm

incontinentia wrote:Looks like Jack Grealish is to declare for England rather than Ireland. Disappointing from an Irish point of view, but I suppose Jack will see it as a marginally increased likelihood of winning a medal.

Not too disapointed. We need to stop capping English people and develop our own indigenous structures for producing talent. While we are at it we should stop obsessing over English premier league football like its some sort of sporting Nirvana and come up with some clever self sustainable ways to grow the game in Ireland instead.

The trouble is the FAI is one of the worst run quangos in Ireland.

If we are incapable of convincing the Welsh and Scots to form some sort of Celtic super league then maybe we should approach Iceland, Finland and Norway etc.


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Post by kwinigolfer on Thu 10 Sep 2015, 1:32 pm

Don't understand all the fuss about Grealish - he's 20 (today apparently) and has only featured in 18 Prem games.

Doesn't do anyone a service to talk him up about International status when no-one's picking him (incl Sherwood on a regular basis). If Hodgson and/or O'Neill want him to play for them, pick him! Then he'll soon have to make up his mind. Otherwise stfu.

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Post by beninho on Thu 10 Sep 2015, 1:33 pm

the fact that the RoI make any major championships is pretty impressive. In comparison to others that qualify they surely must have the worst league, is it even professional?

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Post by incontinentia on Thu 10 Sep 2015, 1:35 pm

Semi-professional ben, as far as I know.

The health of a country's domestic league isn't really relevant to qualifying for international compatitions anyway. Ireland have had plenty of great players over the years, all of whom have been playing club soccer outside the country.

Like GunsGerms I tire of our poaching of second rate English/whatever country players. Its not going to change though, we're too small a country to have a decent domestic league.


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Post by super_realist on Thu 10 Sep 2015, 1:39 pm

Pretty sure hardly any of the ROI play in said league though, just as none of the Welsh team play in Welsh league.

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Post by GunsGerms on Thu 10 Sep 2015, 1:44 pm

super_realist wrote:Pretty sure hardly any of the ROI play in said league though, just as none of the Welsh team play in Welsh league.

Yes but some Welsh players play for Welsh teams at least.

There is rarely a league of Ireland player in the Ireland squad and when they are its usually just a token cap so it looks like the FAI are taking Irish football seriously which they dont.

That said you do get the odd good player that has come through the league of Ireland like Wes Hoolihan for example.

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Post by GunsGerms on Thu 10 Sep 2015, 1:49 pm

incontinentia wrote:Semi-professional ben, as far as I know.

The health of a country's domestic league isn't really relevant to qualifying for international compatitions anyway. Ireland have had plenty of great players over the years, all of whom have been playing club soccer outside the country.

Like GunsGerms I tire of our poaching of second rate English/whatever country players. Its not going to change though, we're too small a country to have a decent domestic league.

We might be too small to have a decent domestic league but there is potential to have a league that is far stronger than we have. Furthermore if we merge our teams and form a league with other small countries we could be part of a very strong league. It wouldnt take a lot of effort just perhaps a bit of creative thinking and maybe then we can stop importing talent.

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Post by McLaren on Thu 10 Sep 2015, 1:52 pm

Why isn't soccer under one organisation in Ireland like golf and rugby is? Wouldn't an Island of Ireland international team by a lot better and have more hope of qualification?
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Post by super_realist on Thu 10 Sep 2015, 1:54 pm

Too many bigots Mac. Don't you remember the Lennon NI situation?

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Post by GunsGerms on Thu 10 Sep 2015, 2:00 pm

super_realist wrote:Too many bigots Mac. Don't you remember the Lennon NI situation?

Sadly that is probably true. I wish the two leagues and unions would merge too. It works really well in rugby.

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Post by GunsGerms on Thu 10 Sep 2015, 2:07 pm

The 1979 Linfield v Dundalk european cup tie was a fairly notorious clash of two sides from either side of the border:

http://www.dundalkfc.com/history/dundalk-fc-in-europe/1979-european-cup-linfield/

The Linfield fans kept throwing stones at the Dundalk players all throughout the game. At one point the Dundalk manager asked the Dundalk English winger to switch wings to the side the Linfield fans were on. He really didnt want to and asked why he had to. The response he got was because you are English they dont mind you.

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Post by super_realist on Thu 10 Sep 2015, 2:12 pm

Don't know if it's a fishwives tale or not, but didn't a pilot once announce over the speaker "Welcome to Belfast, please remember to set your watch back to the year 1850" ?

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Post by beninho on Thu 10 Sep 2015, 2:14 pm

But dont NI have part of this rotated seat on the FIFA top table, which is rotated round the UK associates. Something like that. Turkeys don't vote for Christmas.

I understand that the health of the league is not relevant in qualifying but at the last Euros when the RoI qualified, all the other teams, had leagues which brought through pretty much their entire squads. They cannot keep relying on players getting picked up by decent clubs at a young age, or being late bloomers. A proper competitive league would be a start.

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Post by beninho on Thu 10 Sep 2015, 2:15 pm

Im off to Belfast next week and a few days in NI. -- does not add anything to the conversation i know.

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Post by incontinentia on Thu 10 Sep 2015, 2:18 pm

beninho wrote:Im off to Belfast next week and a few days in NI. -- does not add anything to the conversation i know.
Playing any golf? I hear the Titanic museum is very good to visit
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Post by McLaren on Thu 10 Sep 2015, 2:20 pm

Super/other posters

Have you ever been to Ireland?  I haven't been to any part of the island, and of course that doesn't mean I don't object to the strange religious based policies and the like, but I imagine it doesn't feel all that outdated if you visit Dublin or Belfast.

Actually I haven't ever visited wales either and have probably only been north of Fife on one or two occasions.  Does anyone else find that they have neglected to travel around int he UK in favour of foreign holidays?  When you watch TV shows like coast it makes your realise there is so much to see of interest in the UK.
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Post by beninho on Thu 10 Sep 2015, 2:33 pm

We are going for a wedding, my mate getting married, said he was arranging times at Portrush for the day before, but as the wife was only back to work for 1 week full time, and its the first time leaving the little man anywhere, I could not arrange the extra day! So its just a fly in Thursday evening, then wedding on the Friday and back on Saturday.

I have been to Donegal before, which was a lovely part of the world, and a trip into Derry and a quick drive round bogside (?)

Went to Anglesey in July, lovely as well.

SOme parts of GB are nicer than you imagine them to be!

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Post by MustPuttBetter on Thu 10 Sep 2015, 2:33 pm

GunsGerms wrote:That said you do get the odd good player that has come through the league of Ireland like Wes Hoolihan for example.

Like that Roy Keane fella

I've been to Belfast and had a fantastic weekend. Dublin is meant to be a nice place to visit also
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Post by GunsGerms on Thu 10 Sep 2015, 2:36 pm

McLaren wrote:Super/other posters

Have you ever been to Ireland?  I haven't been to any part of the island, and of course that doesn't mean I don't object to the strange religious based policies and the like, but I imagine it doesn't feel all that outdated if you visit Dublin or Belfast.

Actually I haven't ever visited wales either and have probably only been north of Fife on one or two occasions.  Does anyone else find that they have neglected to travel around int he UK in favour of foreign holidays?  When you watch TV shows like coast it makes your realise there is so much to see of interest in the UK.

I have been to Wales, Scotland, Northern Ireland and England many times each. There are nice parts and not so nice parts in all of these places. Id like to go to Cornwall next and then maybe the Scottish highlands.


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Post by super_realist on Thu 10 Sep 2015, 2:38 pm

McLaren wrote:Super/other posters

Have you ever been to Ireland?  I haven't been to any part of the island, and of course that doesn't mean I don't object to the strange religious based policies and the like, but I imagine it doesn't feel all that outdated if you visit Dublin or Belfast.

Actually I haven't ever visited wales either and have probably only been north of Fife on one or two occasions.  Does anyone else find that they have neglected to travel around int he UK in favour of foreign holidays?  When you watch TV shows like coast it makes your realise there is so much to see of interest in the UK.

I know what you mean Mac, I'm not especially against going to Oirland, but if I'm spending my own money, it's way down on my list. Been to pretty much all of Scotland mainland , quite a bit of England, a wee trip to Wales and stuff.

GB is fine, very nice in places, but so much less "exotic" than a trip abroad.

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Post by GunsGerms on Thu 10 Sep 2015, 2:41 pm

You say it is less exotic but I have been all over the world many times and I havent been to many places more beautiful than Connemara in west Ireland. Off to Hokkaido in northern Japan in a couple of weeks. Has anyone been there?

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Post by super_realist on Thu 10 Sep 2015, 2:43 pm

I'm not saying the UK/GB/I aren't nice places, but because I live here, much of it doesn't interest me.

Was on a fieldtrip in Dorset a couple of years ago and it was great, but the one thing that doesn't change about the UK/GB/I is the culture, and I like going somewhere else where not only is the place different, but the attitude, culture etc are too.

Japan is certainly on my list.

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Post by McLaren on Thu 10 Sep 2015, 2:50 pm

I think Japan is #1 on my wish list of places to travel to. I love asia and think Japan would be like asia with the strange level turned right up. Used pantie vending machines anyone?
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Post by incontinentia on Thu 10 Sep 2015, 2:51 pm

McLaren wrote:Super/other posters

Have you ever been to Ireland?  I haven't been to any part of the island, and of course that doesn't mean I don't object to the strange religious based policies and the like, but I imagine it doesn't feel all that outdated if you visit Dublin or Belfast.

Actually I haven't ever visited wales either and have probably only been north of Fife on one or two occasions.  Does anyone else find that they have neglected to travel around int he UK in favour of foreign holidays?  When you watch TV shows like coast it makes your realise there is so much to see of interest in the UK.
Mac, as a student of golf course design you really would love the courses along the west coast of Ireland. Some of the top links courses anywhere.
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Post by Roller_Coaster on Thu 10 Sep 2015, 2:52 pm

Only been to Dublin in ROI (for both work and pleasure) - it's great, really enjoy it every time. Expensive, mind but then capitals generally are so it's fine if you just accept it. First time I went with a group of 3 other lads (1997 - it was the weekend Ken Doherty won the world snooker title and the Eurovision was on, so the place was buzzing with locals - who knew snooker was so popular out in the pubs!) and every bar we approached seemed to have doormen that assumed we were English and started out negatively towards us, until we said we were Manx (from Isle of Man not Manchester!) and then they all became instantly welcoming. Although on more recent trips (2010 onwards) I have seen or felt no open anti English sentiment.

Been through NI from Belfast through (London)Derry (feel free to read or ignore the London bit!) to a friends wedding somewhere by a loch up the top left (can't remember where exactly - but I think the venue might actually have been in ROI). That was superb. Beautiful but the trip was ruined a bit by food poisoning that prevented me getting out and about much.

Thoroughly enjoyed the (admittedly very) little I've seen.

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Post by super_realist on Thu 10 Sep 2015, 2:53 pm

I'm amazed that someone like Mac never visited the Highlands whilst a youngster. Perhaps his parents only had bus passes too.

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Post by GunsGerms on Thu 10 Sep 2015, 3:02 pm

Crime rates hit an all time low in Dublin the night Doherty won the world snooker championship so you went at a good time. His kid is in the same school as mine. He is a nice fellow.

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Post by westisbest on Thu 10 Sep 2015, 3:04 pm

super_realist wrote:Well, he fits in with the English international persona of being a complete and utter dick

You know him personally.

No.

Seen, heard nothing to suggest he was a d1(k.

As a villa fan, can say he is decent, hopefully will progress this season.

Would certainly play more games for Ireland, but get to more tournaments with England.

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Post by super_realist on Thu 10 Sep 2015, 3:11 pm

I don't know 9C, John Terry, Ashley Cole or Steven Gerrard either, but I can still say that I think they're dicks as much as has been reported to us.

Grealish has already had a few discipline issues, fair enough he's young, but I don't see other sports doing what footballers do. Not very professional, hence dick like behaviour.

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Post by westisbest on Thu 10 Sep 2015, 3:13 pm

super_realist wrote:I'm not saying the UK/GB/I aren't nice places, but because I live here, much of it doesn't interest me.

Was on a fieldtrip in Dorset a couple of years ago and it was great, but the one thing that doesn't change about the UK/GB/I is the culture, and I like going somewhere else where not only is the place different, but the attitude, culture etc are too.

Japan is certainly on my list.

Dorset is a nice county.

Some nice places. Bournemouth is a good town, Poole to. Jurassic Coast.
Weymouth.

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Post by McLaren on Thu 10 Sep 2015, 3:15 pm

inco

I know, the lack irish courses is a massive hole in my golfing CV. I hope to correct this at some point.


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Why would I have been taken to the highlands?
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Post by super_realist on Thu 10 Sep 2015, 3:16 pm

Weymouth is a bit of a dump, but the rest of what I saw, Chesil Beach, Kimmeridge Bay, Budleigh Salterton were all lovely.

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Post by super_realist on Thu 10 Sep 2015, 3:19 pm

McLaren wrote:inco

I know, the lack irish courses is a massive hole in my golfing CV.  I hope to correct this at some point.


Super

Why would I have been taken to the highlands?

Why wouldn't you? Didn't your parents ever take you on trips when you were young? Aviemore, Fort William, Inverness, Glencoe, the North Coast, Moray, Black Isle, etc. Me and my peers were constantly away all over the country.

Very surprised to hear about your lack of travel beyond your tenement door.

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Post by McLaren on Thu 10 Sep 2015, 3:29 pm

Not sure why but we didn't often travel very far north. Went to St Andrews quite a few times but not much else in Scotland. Also went to England a few times as well, places like the lake district.

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Post by kwinigolfer on Thu 10 Sep 2015, 3:34 pm

Guns!
A bit wet in Japan right now. I know Hokkaido is a long way north of the catastrophic floods but reports suggest it's a south/north weather regime so you'd better take your wellies and sou'wester.


Don't know Ireland well enough but have loved the north from Belfast to Donegal. Will get to the rest asap!

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Post by GunsGerms on Thu 10 Sep 2015, 3:42 pm

Thanks Kwini. I dont mind the rain much but appreciate the info.

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Post by navyblueshorts on Thu 10 Sep 2015, 4:39 pm

incontinentia wrote:
super_realist wrote:Given that everyone ought to know that fuel tanks are located all throughout the wings and lower fuselage, and that fuel lines connect them to the burning engine I'd think it was logical to want to get off as soon as possible.
I missed the part where the plane blew up, or where fire spread to other parts of the plane??. Modern airliners are designed to isolate fires and prevent them spreading.

I'm not saying wait til you're on fire, but the fact that no-one was even treated for any injury or smoke inhalation would suggest it wasn't that urgent of a situation. I'm sure they were queuing to slide down the escape chute anyway.

Referred outrage.
Seriously? Are you really that daft?? Have you never heard of people recommending you sit within 7 rows of an exit? Ever wondered why that might be?
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Post by JAS on Thu 10 Sep 2015, 5:16 pm

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Have you ever been to Ireland?  I haven't been to any part of the island, and of course that doesn't mean I don't object to the strange religious based policies and the like, but I imagine it doesn't feel all that outdated if you visit Dublin or Belfast.

Actually I haven't ever visited wales either and have probably only been north of Fife on one or two occasions.  Does anyone else find that they have neglected to travel around int he UK in favour of foreign holidays?  When you watch TV shows like coast it makes your realise there is so much to see of interest in the UK.

Re Ireland, Yes but not enough, I worked in Dublin for 3 months around the turn of the century but that was before I golfed. Only golf trip was a stag weekend taking in Enniscrone, Co Sligo & Lough Earn & yeah it left me wanting more, especially Enniscrone. Have managed to travel quite a bit in the UK, Dornoch being the most Northerly I've played and Mullion the most Southerly. North Wales and the East of England (Kent, Norfolk, Suffolk and Northumbria) are gaps in my golfing CV


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Post by GunsGerms on Thu 10 Sep 2015, 5:23 pm

navyblueshorts wrote:
incontinentia wrote:
super_realist wrote:Given that everyone ought to know that fuel tanks are located all throughout the wings and lower fuselage, and that fuel lines connect them to the burning engine I'd think it was logical to want to get off as soon as possible.
I missed the part where the plane blew up, or where fire spread to other parts of the plane??. Modern airliners are designed to isolate fires and prevent them spreading.

I'm not saying wait til you're on fire, but the fact that no-one was even treated for any injury or smoke inhalation would suggest it wasn't that urgent of a situation. I'm sure they were queuing to slide down the escape chute anyway.

Referred outrage.
Seriously? Are you really that daft?? Have you never heard of people recommending you sit within 7 rows of an exit? Ever wondered why that might be?

Who told you that, Denis Bergkamp? What happens if you are in the 8th row?

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Post by McLaren on Thu 10 Sep 2015, 5:25 pm

Navy

Sorry to say but there is no evidence to support there being a best seat to take on a plane.
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