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Season 8 Homepage III

Post by SirJohnnyEnglish on Sun Oct 11, 2015 3:33 pm

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Breaking News: Bath move off the foot of the table with their first win of the season, Sale & Quins remain unbeaten while Saints pick up a crucial win at the Madejeski. 





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POSAviva PremiershipPLAYEDWONDREWLOSTP FP AP DT FT ATBPLBPPOINTS
1Sale Sharks75201921712120123027
2Harlequins      75201891692017110024
3London Irish 75021901751516112224
4Northampton Saints74211861751115142022
5Newcastle Falcons   7313177177015161318
6Leicester Tigers7304174179-511150416
7Worcester Warriors 7304174185-1113160416
8Saracens7214177174314121415
9Exeter Chiefs  *7223177176114130314
10Gloucester   * 7205167189-2213170411
11Bath Rugby7124176183-713160411
12London Wasps7106156182-261015059


Welcome to Season 8 of the Aviva Premiership fantasy rugby game.  Below are the rules of the game which must be adhered to.  If there are any situations that arise in the course of the game which are not covered by the rules, a final decision will be made by the RFU (SJE) as to how the situation will be resolved.


Senior Squads wrote:
The maximum squad size is 40 senior players.  If a team has more than 40 players in their squad then they will be fined £1 million per player over the permitted amounts per day for the first seven days. If after 7 consecutive days a team still has more than the permitted number of players then the team will be fined £2 million per player per day, and fined 1 league point per player per day for the next seven days. If after this time a team still has more than the permitted number of players in their squad, the RFU (SJE) will remove players at its discretion to bring them back under the permitted numbers. There will be no right of appeal to players being removed.

Be aware that all tier one international matches which are played during the season will count in the game, and players selected in the match day 23's for those matches will not be eligible to play for their clubs on that weekend, therefore you must give due consideration to the make-up of your squad.
Academy Rules wrote:
Each team will be allowed to have an academy squad of 23 players.  Players who are in the academy must be born on or after 1st September 1993.

Any player, who is at any Premiership club in real life, either in their senior, academy or AASE squads, can be bid for on the domestic bidding page. Players who are at your own club in real life and are coming through the academy system must be bid for if you want them in your own academy.
Transfers wrote:

  • Domestic (other AP Teams)
    Each team has a budget to use in the purchase of players. Domestic transfers between AP clubs, regardless of nationality of player, should be negotiated between the respective managers, and then confirmed on the Domestic Transfer Confirmation Page.
  • Domestic (Championship and below)
    Each team may during the season purchase no more than 5 players from the Championship or the National Leagues. Worcester Warriors & London Wasps will receive two additional bids to be used exclusively on academy age players. These players must be bid for on the National League Bidding page, and each bid will be considered by the RFU on its own merits before being accepted or rejected.  No bid will be accepted until a minimum of 24 hours has elapsed from the time the bid was made, in order to afford other managers the opportunity to make a counter bid.
  • Foreign
    To make a foreign transfer (i.e. from any club outside of the AP, regardless of whether the player is English) a bid should be made on the Foreign Transfers Page, which will be considered by the RFU against the posted guidelines for purchase prices before being accepted or rejected. No bid will be accepted until a minimum of 24 hours has elapsed from the time the bid was made, in order to afford other managers the opportunity to make a counter bid.

    There will be a summer foreign transfer window, which will run as follows.
    Player Draft
    Worcester Warriors & London Wasps will participate in a player draft beginning the week of June 22nd. Both sides will be allowed to draft two players each. The draft picks will go as follows; 1. Worcester 2. Wasps 3. Wasps 4. Worcester.

    Round Bidding
    There will be two rounds of bidding. The first window will run the week starting June 29th and the second the week starting July 3rd. All sides will be allowed to sign one player each during the window. These bids are not protected if you do not have the funds in place to bid during the window you will lose the bid.    

    Open Bidding
    From July 13th the foreign market will be open to all bids similar to previous seasons. Due to the world cup the window will remain open till the end of September.

Player Releases wrote:
Managers may choose to release players from their clubs, for which they will be offered compensation

Compensation will be paid as follows

£2 million – current international (must have played international rugby in the previous 12 months)
£1.5 million – former international
£1m – top flight experience
£0.5m – other

All released players will be deemed to have joined a Championship side and can be bid for on the National League Bidding page.
Retirements wrote:
There will be no compensation for retiring players.  Should a player who retires decide to come out of retirement and play again, then he will automatically go back to the club who he was playing for in the game when he retired.
Fixtures wrote:
There will be 22 Aviva Premiership games per season, plus the play offs. There will also be European Rugby Champions Cup, European Rugby Challenge Cup and Anglo Welsh Cup matches.  These games will take place once a week. A match thread will be put up every Monday. Home teams must be named by midnight on Tuesday. Away teams must be named by midnight on Wednesday. Failure to meet these deadlines is punishable by the addition of three match points to the oppositions final score, unless both sides fail to do so. Both teams must provide tactics by midnight on Thursday. Predictions will be open from 00:01 hours on Friday and remain open until 20:00 hours on Sunday. Managers will pm the scores that they think will happen from these games (apart from games in which they are involved).  An average of all predictions will be taken, and then 0.5 points added to each teams score for each prediction that had them as the winner, and that will then be the final score.

Managers are asked to provide detail as to why they have predicted a result.  To be considered a descriptive prediction this must be a full 3 lines long when entered into the text box.
Teams wrote:
When naming your team, not only should you put the starting XV and replacements, but also tactics that your team will employ. Results will be affected by the tactics described.

In addition, each team must have the following:-

For domestic competition at least 8 England qualified players in your match day 23, and at least 4 of those must be in your starting XV.

For European competition at least 8 England qualified players in your match day 23, and at least 6 of those must be in your starting XV.

At least 2 props and 1 hooker on the bench.

All players must be eligible (not injured or banned).

Failure to comply with these rules will result in a 1 league point deduction.

If you fail to submit a team for a match, then the other team will be automatically awarded a 30-0 bonus point win. If both teams fail to submit a team, then it will be scored as a 0-0 draw.
Injuries and Suspensions wrote:
Injuries in this game do NOT reflect real life, they will be generated by me.

Players banned in real life will be ineligible for selection in this game for the duration of the ban.

Inclusion of injured/banned players will result in them being replaced by players on the bench, and the bench not having eight players, which may result in punishment if it concerns the front-row.

Punishment for fielding an ineligible player will be loss of one match point.
Financial Rewards wrote:
There will be no rewards for the result of an individual match, instead the managers will receive cash for predicting.

£2m for descriptive predictions
£0.25m for scores on the doors predictions
Bonuses will be awarded on a scaled basis i.e. 2m for 5 games, 1.6m for 4 games and so on
If you fail to predict without first advising me that you are unable to do so that week, you will be fined £1m for a first offence, £2m for a second offence, £3m for a third offence etc upto a maximum of £5m per fine.

AP finishing positions.

Champions: 8m
Runners Up: 6m
Playoff Semi Finalist Losers: 5m
5th: 4m
6th: 3.5m
7th: 3m
8th: 2.5m
9th: 2m
10th: 1.5m
11th: 1m
12th: 0.5m

Heineken Cup

Losing Quarter Finalists - £2 million each
Losing Semi Finalists - £3 million each
Runners Up - £4 million
Champions - £5 million

Amlin Challenge Cup

Losing Quarter Finalists - £1 million each
Losing Semi Finalists - £2 million each
Runners Up - £3 million
Champions - £4 million

Anglo-Welsh Cup

Losing Semi Finalist - £1 million each
Runners Up - £2 million
Champions - £3 million


If your budgets falls below minus £10 million for any reason, the administrators (SJE) will step in and players from within your squad will be released for the relevant financial compensation (foreign transfer value) in order to bring your budget back above minus £10 million.


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Re: Season 8 Homepage III

Post by Guest on Fri Oct 30, 2015 8:53 pm

Fardy and Kaino unlucky to not be on the list they make their teams tick

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Re: Season 8 Homepage III

Post by Sgt_Pooly on Sat Oct 31, 2015 1:46 pm

Handling and awareness is just on a different level

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Re: Season 8 Homepage III

Post by Sgt_Pooly on Sun Nov 01, 2015 3:31 am

https://www.facebook.com/CrowdGoesWild/videos/10153692777613764/

Nice gesture from SBW

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Re: Season 8 Homepage III

Post by Fluxy on Mon Nov 02, 2015 7:18 am

Incredible World Cup, best team from the RWC?

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Re: Season 8 Homepage III

Post by Sgt_Pooly on Mon Nov 02, 2015 7:27 am

Fluxy wrote:Incredible World Cup, best team from the RWC?

NZ maybe?

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Re: Season 8 Homepage III

Post by BamBam on Mon Nov 02, 2015 7:41 am

Laugh

Go on then ..

1. Sio
2. Creevy
3. Herrera
4. Retallick
5. De Jager
6. Kaino
7. Hardie
8. Pocock
9. Smith
10. Carter
11. Savea
12. Nonu
13. Bennett (no one stands out)
14. Milner Skudder
15. Smith

16. Coles
17. Ayerza
18. Kepu
19. Whitelock
20. McCaw
21. Landajo (? Argentina 9)
22. Foley
23. AAC

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Re: Season 8 Homepage III

Post by Fluxy on Mon Nov 02, 2015 7:44 am

You knew what I meant Pooly!

Pretty much agree with you Bam, would possibly have Kriel in at 13, or even Bosch

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Post by Sgt_Pooly on Mon Nov 02, 2015 7:58 am

I'd have Smith at 13, Dickinson at 1 and Codero at 14. Can't argue with the rest of that really Bam.

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Re: Season 8 Homepage III

Post by Fluxy on Mon Nov 02, 2015 8:06 am

The Argentine back three are a good shout, and a Cordero Savea Combo would be great on the wings. 

Anyone up for a deal.......  Run

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Re: Season 8 Homepage III

Post by Sgt_Pooly on Mon Nov 02, 2015 8:12 am

Of course Wink

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Re: Season 8 Homepage III

Post by SirJohnnyEnglish on Mon Nov 02, 2015 11:15 am

League table is up to date and this weeks match thread is up: http://www.606v2.com/t61097-aviva-premiership-round-four

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Post by BamBam on Mon Nov 02, 2015 11:15 am

Getting a bit of vertigo Shocked

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Post by BamBam on Mon Nov 02, 2015 11:18 am

http://www.northamptonsaints.co.uk/news/latest-headlines/2015/november/world-class-picamoles-signs-on-with-saints/

Picamoles to Saints. What a signing

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Post by Fluxy on Mon Nov 02, 2015 11:24 am

That is one way to replace Manoa!

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Post by Sgt_Pooly on Mon Nov 02, 2015 11:32 am

That's some signing

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Post by LukeLovesLuka on Mon Nov 02, 2015 12:05 pm

North, Fotuali'i, Matfield, Picamoles......expensive signings surely.

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Re: Season 8 Homepage III

Post by SirJohnnyEnglish on Mon Nov 02, 2015 12:39 pm

I'd assume Matfield goes at the end of the season and Picamoles takes the 2nd marque signing spot.

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Post by Fluxy on Mon Nov 02, 2015 12:44 pm

It does say for the 2016 season, which makes sense. By then, hopefully Lawes has learned all of Matfield's tricks and by ruling the skies for Saints and England!

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Post by Sgt_Pooly on Tue Nov 03, 2015 2:45 am

Burgess all but confirmed.

http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/league/73641418/Sam-Burgess-trains-with-Bath-tells-team-mates-hes-done-with-union-report

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Re: Season 8 Homepage III

Post by SirJohnnyEnglish on Tue Nov 03, 2015 6:36 am

Interesting idea on the main board. Top 3 in the world by position. What would yours be? I'd go something along these lines:

1. Ayerza, Ben Arous, Beast
2. BDP, Moore, Best
3. Herrera, Zirka, Slimani
4. Retalick, Etzebeth, Wyn Jones
5. Whitelock, POC, De Jager
6. Kaino, Burger, O'Mahony
7. Pocock, McCaw, Louw
8. Vermulean, Read, Picamoles
9. Smith, Du Preez, Murray
10. Carter, Sexton, Foley
11. Savea, Nadolo, North
12. Nonu, Fofanna, SBW,
13. Smith, Joseph, Bennet
14. Huget, Milner Skudder, Cordero
15. Smith, Le Roux, Brown

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Post by SirJohnnyEnglish on Tue Nov 03, 2015 6:38 am

13 and 1 the hardest to pick for me. A clear no 1 but after that a few options who all have a good claim.

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Post by BamBam on Tue Nov 03, 2015 6:52 am



1. Ayerza, Sio, Ben Arous
2. Creevy, Coles, BDP
3. Herrera, Slimani, Nel
4. Retallick, Etzebeth,
5. Whitelock, De Jager,
6. Kaino, Burger, POM
7. Pocock, McCaw, Hooper
8. Vermeulen, Read, Picamoles
9. Smith, Murray, FDP
10. Carter, Foley, Sexton
11. Savea, Nadolo, Habana
12. Nonu, Giteau, De Allende
13. Smith, Joseph, JD2
14. Milner Skudder, AAC, Naholo
15. Smith, Folau, Brown

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Post by Fluxy on Tue Nov 03, 2015 6:57 am

Willing to listen to some offers on the following lads if anyone is interested:


LH - Cian Healy (Ireland)
Dimitri Szarzewski (France)

Rob Webber (England)

TH - Vincent Koch (South Africa)

LK - Juandre Kruger (South Africa)
LK - Jake Ball (Wales)

OS - Luke Wallace (England)

SH - Chris Cook (England)
SH - Nic White (Australia)

FH - Camille Lopez (France)

WG/FB - Maxime Medard (France) 
FB/WG/CE - James O'Connor (Australia)

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Post by Steven_Sharks on Tue Nov 03, 2015 9:59 am

Michael Hooper is undoubtedly in the top 3 open sides.

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Post by SirJohnnyEnglish on Tue Nov 03, 2015 10:34 am

Pocock a clear no 1 and McCaw a clear no 2. I prefer Louw to Hooper as out and out 7s. Love Hoopers running style but hes not as strong as the others at the breakdown.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly on Tue Nov 03, 2015 10:58 am

SirJohnnyEnglish wrote:Pocock a clear no 1 and McCaw a clear no 2. I prefer Louw to Hooper as out and out 7s. Love Hoopers running style but hes not as strong as the others at the breakdown.

Got to agree with that. I'm not sure I'd have Hooper in the top 5 tbh, amazing runner though but breakdown not great.

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Post by CJB on Tue Nov 03, 2015 10:58 am

1. Ayerza, Sio, Ben Arous
2. BDP, Moore, Best
3. Herrera, Slimani, Zirka
4. Retallick, Etzebeth, Launchbury
5. Whitlock, De Jager, POC
6. Kaino, Burger, Gorgodze
7. Pocock, Hooper, McCaw
8. Vermulean, Reid, Manoa
9. Smith, Murray, FDP
10. Carter, Sexton, Cruden
11. Savea, North, Nadolo
12. Nonu, De Allende, Fofana
13. Smith, JD2, Bennett
14. Milner Skudder, Naholo, AAC
15. Le Roux, Smith, Folau

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Post by SirJohnnyEnglish on Tue Nov 03, 2015 11:05 am

I'd have him fourth. Add Warburton and they are quite clearly the best 7s around

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Post by Fluxy on Tue Nov 03, 2015 11:07 am

and Steffon Wink

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Post by Guest on Wed Nov 04, 2015 7:01 pm

Kurindrani and hooper massive admissions.

Sio is very much the coming man loose head wise but to have in top 3 after just a World Cup is odd for me.

Likewise Milner skudder is good and had a great tournament but needs to play more. South Africa made him look poor under high ball.
AAC was more effective.

Always tough these top 3 things

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Post by Guest on Wed Nov 04, 2015 8:17 pm

Steven_Sharks wrote:Michael Hooper is undoubtedly in the top 3 open sides.


Hooper breakdown work underrated him and pocock both excellemt there. Hooper such a dynamic defender hitting people back and getting leg drive on.

7 a strong global position and louw hooper and mccaw excellent. Do we consider pocock an 8 now ??

All Southern Hemisphere teams a way ahead after watching both semi finals and final live I am amazed at how they play at that pace and skill level.

A true education to watch and a privilege. All have great units. That argie front 5 is fantastic and young. Petti and lavanini stars in second row like etzbeth de jäger and rettalick and whitelock. They will be around for a long time

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Post by Sgt_Pooly on Thu Nov 05, 2015 12:30 am

Surprised you think Kurindrani should have made it Matt, I thought he had a quiet WC (the WC seems to hold a lot of weight).

I think Hooper's breakdown work is actually overrated. The commentators are always banging on about Pocock/Hooper etc but Hooper very rarely makes an impact with assistance.

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Post by Steven_Sharks on Thu Nov 05, 2015 5:08 am

Hooper's breakdown work just as good as your average international 7. Hooper is incredibly dynamic and physical so he magically becomes poor at the breakdown in the minds of fans as it appears you can only fit into one category. 

It's just like if a 9 is an electric runner. People decide you can't be an electric runner and have a good pass. For an unknown reason it's an either/or situation. Simpson/Peranara as examples.

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Post by BamBam on Thu Nov 05, 2015 6:19 am

I'm a fan of Hooper and do think he's top drawer.

But if I had to pick a 7 to have to try and shift off the ball one on one out of Hooper/Pocock/Louw/McCaw/Armitage I'd choose Hooper (obviously fail miserably!). Thats not to say he isn't a world class 7, because his other attributes are ahead of many of those guys

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Post by Sgt_Pooly on Thu Nov 05, 2015 6:21 am

I can't agree with that Steve, each player is rated on individual merit. Louw is good in the loose but also strong at the breakdown, Danny Care is a good runner and has a good pass.

TJ was renowned for his poor passing but has really upped his game this year and only rarely has poor moments.

Hooper is a very good player but some of us think his breakdown work is lacking, this tends to go against what commentators suggest I've found. Warburton & Tipuric are another 2 that seem to combine that role well.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly on Thu Nov 05, 2015 6:22 am

BamBam wrote:I'm a fan of Hooper and do think he's top drawer.

But if I had to pick a 7 to have to try and shift off the ball one on one out of Hooper/Pocock/Louw/McCaw/Armitage I'd choose Hooper (obviously fail miserably!). Thats not to say he isn't a world class 7, because his other attributes are ahead of many of those guys

Agree with that Bam. I've never thought Hooper was a world class 7 in the typical sense but he's certainly a world class player.

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Post by SirJohnnyEnglish on Thu Nov 05, 2015 6:36 am

Completely forgot about Kurindrani. Says a lot about his world cup but otherwise over the last 2 years hes been great and would make my top 3. 

Green and Gold rugby have done great bits on the Aussie breakdown work over the least few years and the lack of impact Hooper has had there. The Roar have as well/ I'm sure CJ has put a few pieces up here on it before or on the main board.

Pocock definitely a 7 playing 8. Hasn't the carrying game of the top 8s.

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Post by Guest on Thu Nov 05, 2015 6:43 am

Anyone see this http://www.planetrugby.com/news/team-of-the-rugby-world-cup-2015/

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Post by Sgt_Pooly on Thu Nov 05, 2015 6:49 am

Pretty spot on, AWJ is a bit of an odd one.

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Post by Driver on Thu Nov 05, 2015 8:12 am

Aln Wyn Jones is over hyped beyond belief for me. Just looks angry all the time, doesn't really do anything else for me.
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Post by dammit_chris on Thu Nov 05, 2015 8:42 am

Agree with you Steve on Hooper, think he is a tremendous player and worked so well in tandem with Pocock. When you watch him he always made a nuisance of himself at the breakdown and Pocock got a lot of turnovers because other teams were trying to get rid of Hooper. Thought Fardy had a good tournament as well.

Not having a genuine no7 is really costing England, but can't really see anyone coming through to change that - don't think how the breakdown is reffed in NH (espc Premiership) helps us out in any way at all though and makes a huge difference when we go into international rugby.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly on Thu Nov 05, 2015 9:05 am

The breakdown is reffed poorly, players get away with their hands on the deck all the time.

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Post by Driver on Thu Nov 05, 2015 9:34 am

I think Hooper is the best all round player out of the 7s.

I'v had a few days to catch up and have think about what mine would be..

1. Mtwaria , Ayerza , Healy
2. Du Plessie , Moore , Hartley
3. Franks , Herrera , Slimani
4. Etzbeth , Retallick , Launchbury
5. O'Connell , Whitelock , J Grey
6. O'Mahoney , Kaino , Burger
7. McCaw , Louw , Hooper
8. Read , Vermaulen , Picamoles

9. Smith , Du Preez , Murray
10. Carter , Sexton , Pollard
11. Sevea , North , Habana
12. Nonu , Giteau , Fofana
13. Smith , SBW , Joseph
14. Pieterson , Milner - Skudder , Nadolo
15. Le Roux , B Smith , Brown
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Post by Sgt_Pooly on Thu Nov 05, 2015 9:39 am

Pieterson is an interesting choice Driver

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Post by Sgt_Pooly on Thu Nov 05, 2015 9:41 am

No Creevy, Pocock, Foley?

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Post by Driver on Thu Nov 05, 2015 9:44 am

Pocock was left out because he hasn't been playing 7 and i wouldn't pick him at 8 above the other 3.

Creevey was playing Championship rugby last season and hasn't set the world on fire , one good world cup doesn't make you world class.

I don't think Foley is better than the 3 i'v listed, Giteau playing 12 made the Australian backs tick for me
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Post by SirJohnnyEnglish on Thu Nov 05, 2015 9:56 am

Matt won't be happy but I'd say Pollard looks out of place. Lovely runner but kicking from hand is poor and game management not there yet at international level. FDP controlled everything for the Boks.

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Post by Driver on Thu Nov 05, 2015 9:57 am

That might just be the boks playing to each players strengths though, Surprised they didn't use Le Roux to clear the lines more.
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Post by ChequeredJersey on Thu Nov 05, 2015 10:09 am

Pocock was the player of the RWC, can't not have him in, surely?! Everyone knows that he can play 7, and he's shown he can play 8 too. Will do my list later
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Post by LukeLovesLuka on Thu Nov 05, 2015 10:19 am


1. Ayerza, Beast, Ben Arous
2. BDP, Moore, Creevy
3. Herrera, Zirka, Franks
4. Retalick, Etzebeth, Gray
5. Whitelock, POC, De Jager
6. Kaino, Burger, O'Mahony
7. Pocock, McCaw, Louw
8. Vermulean, Read, Picamoles

9. Du Preez, Smith, Murray
10. Carter, Sexton, Foley
11. Savea, Nadolo, Mitchell
12. Nonu, Fofana, Roberts
13. Smith, Kud, Davies
14. Huget, AAC, Milner-Skudder
15. Smith, Folau, Brown

Few positions have so many options, others really don't.

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