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Post by A Simply Mesmeric Try on Wed 21 Oct 2015, 10:08 am

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This is still a tad out-of-date and is in the process of being updated.

This is a reference thread to pool a list of Scottish and Scots qualified players that play outside of Scotland. Only having 2 pro teams means there are surely a good few of them.

Why? Well, mainly as a reference and to discuss the talent that plays away from home and, if they are playing well, hype about them getting picked for Scotland, or getting signed by Edinburgh or Glasgow.  Laugh

I'll start off with the ones I know of, and I'll update the thread as we go.

Please let me know who I've missed, and of any transfers or retirements!

* = International Cap
^ = International A Team & Sevens caps

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Guinness Pro12 (Wales & Ireland):

Connacht
BR - Eoghan Masterson

Ospreys
BR - Sam Underhill

Scarlets
BR - John Barclay*


English Aviva Premiership:

Bath
N8 - David Denton*
BR - David Sisi (on load at London Irish)
FH - Adam Hastings

Bristol
PR - Kyle Traynor*
BR - Mitch Eadie
WG - George Watkins

Exeter Chiefs
PR - Moray Low*
LK - Ollie Atkins^
BR - Aaron Thomson
 
Gloucester
SH - Greig Laidlaw*, Ben Vellacott
CR - Matt Scott (12,13)*

Harlequins
FH - Ruaridh Jackson*
WG - Tim Visser*
WG - Robbie Nairn

Newcastle Falcons
PR - John Welsh*
PR - Mike Cusack*
HK - Scott Lawson*
LK - Scott MacLeod*, Glen Young, Andrew Davidson
BR - Ally Hogg*, Tyrone Holmes*

Northampton Saints
LK - Alan Gregory
FH - G.Haldane
FH - R.Hutchison

Sale Sharks
PR - Jamie Ross
BR - George Bordill
N8 - George Blackwell
FB - Byron McGuigan^

Saracens
LK - Jim Hamilton*
BR - Kelly Brown*
CR - Duncan Taylor*
WG - Sean Maitland*

Wasps
HK - Sam James
CR - Nick de Luca*

Worcester Warriors
N8 - Tom Dodd
FH - Tom Heathcote*
FB - Alex Nisbet


English Championship:


Doncaster Knights
PR - C.Phillips
PR - C.Quigley
WG - Andrew Bulumakau
WG - Dougie Flockhart

Ealing
HK - Alun Walker
WG - Chris Kinloch

Jersey
HK - Russell Anderson
BR - Tommy Spinks
LK - Nick Campbell
FB - Jack Cuthbert*

London Irish
BR - Blair Cowen*
SH - Scott Steele, Brendan McKibbin
CR - Johnny Williams

London Scottish   appletini Braveheart
PR - Dave Young^, Ben Prescott
HK - David Cherry, R.Doneghan
LK - Josh T Brown, Neale Patrick
BR - Lewis Calder
SH - Matt Heeks, Russell Weir, Jamie Stevenson
FH - Lee Miller
CR - Oli Grove, Craig Jackson, Alex Grove*, Patrick Kelly
WG - Alec Coombes

London Welsh
PR - Jack Gilding

Nottingham
SH - Murray McConnell

Rotherham Titans
PR - Robin Hislop

Yorkshire Carnegie
LK - Tom Ryder*
FH - Harry Leonard^
FB - Stevie McColl^


French Top 14:

Brive
BR - Kieran Murphy

Castres
LK - Ritchie Gray*
N8 - Johnnie Beattie*
WG - Max Evans*

Grenoble
LK - Aly Muldowney^

Pau
PR - Ewan Murrey* (Retired International)
BR - Sean Dougall

Toulon  Cool Bubbly
LK - Andrew Crammond


French Pro D2:

Albi
LK - A.Sinclair

Bordeaux
FH - Ben Chalmers

Le Parc
CR - Patrick Kelly

Perpignan
BR - Alasdair Strokosch* (Retired International)

Carcassonne
PR - Phil Cringle
BR - Scott Newlands^


Super 15 & Currie Cup, ITM Cup, NRC:

Australia
PR - Nick Fraser (North Harbour Rays)
BR - Murray Douglas (Melbourne Rising)

New Zealand
FH - Damien McKenzie (Chiefs/Waikato)
FH - Ihaia West (Blues/Hawke's Bay)
WG - Jonny McNicholl (Crusaders/Canterbury)
FB - Marty McKenzie (Crusaders/Southland)

South Africa
CR - Huw Jones (Stormers)


Japan & North America:

Japan
FB - Robbie Robinson (Toyota Verblitz)

Canada
Coming soon

USA
Coming soon


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Home Region Squads
Here are the current 2015/2016 squads for Edinburgh Rugby & Glasgow Warriors. This will always be up to date.
* = International Cap
^International A Team caps & Sevens
NSQ = Not Scottish Qualified
Current Edinburgh Squad:

Backs

Scrum Half
*Sam Hidalgo-Clyne
Nathan Fowles
^Sean Kennedy
Murdo McAndrew (EDP)

Fly Half
Phil Burleigh (NSQ - New Zealand)
Jade Te Rure
Blair Kinghorn
^Jason Tovey (NSQ - Wales - on loan from Dragons until season ends)

Centre (pos)
Michael Allen (13) (NSQ - Ireland)
Chris Dean (13)
Junior Rasolea (12,13)
Andries Strauss (12) (NSQ - South Africa)
James Johnstone (13,12) (Sevens)

Wing
*Tom Brown
*Dougie Fife
*Will Helu (NSQ - Tonga)
*Damien Hoyland

Fullback
*Greig Tonks (Transferred to London Irish mid-season)
Glenn Bryce
Nick McLennan

Forwards

Prop
*Alasdair Dickinson
*Willem P Nel
^John Andress (NSQ - Ireland)
^Grant Shiells
Rory Sutherland
^Allan Dell
Craig Bachurzewski
Simon Berghan
Jack Cosgrove (on load at London Scottish)

Hooker
*Ross Ford
Neil Cochrane
*Stuart McInally
George Turner

Lock
Anton Bresler (NSQ - South Africa)
*Grant Gilchrist
^Fraser McKenzie
Alex Toolis
*Ben Toolis

Backrow (pos)
Cornell Du Preez (6,8) (NSQ - South Africa)
*John Hardie (7)
Nasi Manu (8,6) (NSQ - New Zealand)
Mike Coman (6,8) (NSQ - New Zealand) (Captain)
*Hamish Watson (7)
Jamie Ritchie (6)
Magnus Bradbury (8,6)
^Roddy Grant (7,6,8) (Early Retirement)  Crying or Very sad

Current Glasgow Warriors Squad:

Backs

Scrum Half
*Henry Pyrgos
*Grayson Hart
*Mike Blair (Retired International)
Ali Price
George Horne (EDP) (on load at London Scottish)

Fly Half
*Finn Russell
*Duncan Weir
Gregor Hunter
Rory Clegg (NSQ)
^Scott Wight (Melrose - RWC Cover) 

Centre (pos)
*Mark Bennett (13)
*Alex Dunbar (12,13)
*Peter Horne (12,10)
Sam Johnson (13,12) (NSQ)
^Fraser Lyle (12,10,13)
*Richie Vernon (13,8,6,12)
^Robbie Fergusson (13,14,11) (EDP) (on load at London Scottish)
Nick Grigg (EDP - Ayr)

Wing
*Tommy Seymour
Leonardo Sarto
^Junior Bulumakau
*Rory Hughes
*Sean Lamont
*Lee Jones (Sevens)

Fullback
*Stuart Hogg
*Peter Murchie


Forwards

Prop
*Alex Allan
*Zander Fagerson
*Ryan Grant
*Sila Puafisi (NSQ - Tonga)
*Gordon Reid
D‘arcy Rae
Jarrod Firth (NSQ)
George Hunter (EDP)
*Djustice Sears-Duru (NSQ - Canada)

Hooker
*Fraser Brown
*Pat MacArthur
Corey Flynn
James Malcolm (EDP)

Lock
Scott Cummings
*Jonny Gray (Captain)
*Tjiuee Uanivi (NSQ - Namibia)
*Tim Swinson
*Greg Peterson (NSQ - USA)
Kiran McDonald (EDP)

Backrow (pos)
*Robert Harley (6,4)
*Hugh Blake (7)
*Josh Strauss (8,6)
*Simone Favaro (6,7) (NSQ - Italy)
*Chris Fusaro (7)
*Ryan Wilson (8,6,7)
*Adam Ashe (8,6)
Matt Smith (7) (EDP)
Lewis Wynne (8) (EDP)

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All known Scottish Pro Players sorted by position, by Majestic83:

Majestic83 wrote:Props 30
A Dickinson(Edinburgh), A Dell(Edinburgh), R Sutherland(Edinburgh), G Shiells(Edinburgh), J Cosgrove(Edinburgh) R Grant(Glasgow), G Reid(Glasgow), A Allan(Glasgow), G Strain(Glasgow) K Traynor(Bristol), R Hislop(Rotherham), C Fenton(Glasgow EDP), C Quigley(Doncaster Knights)
W P Nel(Edinburgh), S Berghan(Edinburgh), C Sheldon(Edinburgh), E Murray(Agen), J Welsh(Newcastle), M Cusack(Glasgow), Z Fargeson(Glasgow), D Rae(Glasgow), G Hunter(Glasgow), G Cross(London Irish), M Low(Exeter), D Young(London Scottish), B Prescott(London Scottish, P Cringle(Carcassone), J Gilding(L Welsh) N Fraser (North harbour Rays), J Sebastian(Glasgow)

Hookers 16
R Ford(Edinburgh), N Cochrane(Edinburgh), J hilterbrand(Edinburgh), S McInally(Edinburgh), G Turner(Edinburgh), P MacArthur(Glasgow), F Brown(Glasgow), K Bryce(Glasgow), F Scott(Glasgow), J Malcolm(Glasgow EDP), S Lawson(Newcastle), A Walker(Trailfinders), D Cherry( London Scottish),J Kerr(Edinburgh), S James(Scotland U20s/Bedford Blues), R Anderson(Jersey)

Locks 27
G Gilchrist(Edinburgh), F McKenzie(Edinburgh), B Toolis(Edinburgh), A Toolis(Edinburgh), J Gray(Glasgow), T Swinson(Glasgow), K Low(Glasgow), A Davidson(Glasgow EDP), S Cummings(Glasgow EDP), A Redmayne(Glasgow EDP), J Hamilton(Saracens), S MacLeod(Newcastle), S Tomes(Newcastle), A Crammond(Toulon), A Sinclair(Albi), R Gray(Castres), G Young(Newcastle) N Patrick (London Scottish)) N Campbell (Jersey), Josh T Brown(London Scottish), A Muldowney(Connacht), C Hunter-Hill(Glasgow EDP), M Douglas(Melbourne Rising) A Craig(Gloucester)(also B/R), T Ryder(Yorkshire carnegie), O Atkins(Exeter), K McDonald(Glasgow EDP)

Backrow 39
J Hardie(Edinburgh), R Grant(Edinburgh), H Watson(Edinburgh), D Denton(Edinburgh), J Ritchie(Edinburgh), M Bradbury(Edinburgh), A Miller (Edinburgh) H Blake(Glasgow), J Strauss(Glasgow), C Fusaro(Glasgow), T Holmes(Glasgow), W Bordill(Glasgow), T Spinks(Jersey), R Harley(Glasgow), J Eddie(Glasgow), R Wilson(Glasgow), A Ashe(Glasgow),J Hill(Glasgow) A Hogg(Newcastle), K Brown(Saracens), B Cowan(London Irish), J Barclay(Scarlets), M Eadie(Bristol), J Beattie(Castres), A Strokosh(Perpignan), D Sisi(Bath/London Irish), E Masterson( Connacht), K Murphy( London Welsh), M Smith(Glasgow EDP), S Dewar(Scotland 7s), M Fedo(Scotland 7s), S Riddell(Scotland 7s), G Graham(Jersey), S Newlands(Carcassone), Iain Grieve(Ealing Trailfinders), J Tyas(Chinnor), Z Mercer(Bath), S Dougall(Pau), M Dewar(Glasgow EDP), L Wynne(Glasgow EDP), B Flockhart(Glasgow EDP)

Scrum Half 20
S Hidalgo-Clyne(Edinburgh), S Kennedy(Edinburgh), M McAndrew(Edinburgh) N Fowles(Edinburgh) H Fraser(Edinburgh EDP),A Glashan(Edinburgh), G Hart(Glasgow), H Pyrgos(Glasgow),A Price(Glasgow), M McConnel(Nottingham), C Cusiter(Sale), G Laidlaw(Gloucester), M Blair(Glasgow), S Steele(London Irish), J Stevenson(Wasps) B McKibbin(London Irish) , M Heeks(London Scottish), B Vellacott(Gloucester/Scotland U20), R Weir(London Scottish), J Turner(Western Force), G Horne(Glasgow EDP)

Stand Off 17
G Tonks(Edinburgh), B Kinghorn(Edinburgh), J Te Rure(Edinburgh),T Heathcote(Worcester), F Russel(Glasgow), D Weir(Glasgow), G Hunter(Glasgow), R Jackson(Wasps), L Millar(London Scottish), B Chalmers(Bordeaux), H Leonard(Yorkshire Carnegie) R Hutchison(Northampton) A Hastings(Bath)
D McKenzie (Chiefs) G Lowe(Glasgow EDP/Scotland 7s), S Wight(Scotland 7s), , G Haldane(Northampton Saints)

Wings 22
D Fyfe(Edinburgh),T Brown(Edinburgh) , D Hoyland(Edinburgh), B Robbins(Edinburgh EDP/Scotland U20s), J Farndale(Edinburgh), S Maitland(London Irish), T Seymour(Glasgow), S Lamont(Glasgow), L Jones(Glasgow), R Hughes(Glasgow), J Bulumakau(Glasgow Warriors), T Visser(Harlequins), G Watkins(Bristol) J McNicholl(Crusaders) M Russell(Warrington RL), J McManus(Newcastle knights RL) R Nairn(harlequins), A Coombes(London Scottish/Scotland U20), J Fleming(Scotland 7s), M Robertson (Glasgow/Scotland 7s), C Kinloch(Ealing Trailfinders), A Bulumakau(Doncaster Knights), D Flockhart(Doncaster Knights), 

Centres 21
M Scott(Edinburgh), C Auld(Edinburgh)?, C Dean(Edinburgh),J Johnstone(Edinburgh/Scotland 7s) A Dunbar(Glasgow), P Horne(Glasgow), M Bennett(Glasgow), R Vernon(Glasgow), F Lyle (Glasgow),R Fergusson(Glasgow EDP),J Steele(Glasgow EDP) , N Grigg(Glasgow EDP), D Taylor(Saracens), M Doneghan(London Scottish), A Grove(Worcester), N De Luca(Biarittz), O Grove(London Scottish) H Jones(Stormers & Western Province), K Linnett(North Queensland Cowboys RL/ Scotland RL) J Wardle (Huddersfield Giants RL/Scotland RL), P Kelly(le Parc/Scotland U20s), N Godsmark(Glasgow/Scotland 7s), N Herron(Glasgow EDP/Scotland 7s), C Jackson(London Scottish)

Full Backs 13
J Cuthbert(Edinburgh), N McLennan(Edinburgh), S Hogg(Glasgow), P Murchie(Glasgow), G Bryce(Glasgow), S MacColl(Gloucester), B McGuigan(Exeter), A Tait(Newcastle),) R Robinson(Toyota Verblitz) B Ransom(Saracens) L Coote(North Queensland Cowboys RL/Scotland RL) K Locke(Salford Reds RL) R Howarth (Edinburgh EDP/Scotland U20s)


(ping-pong and lawn bowls pros coming soon)
Rugby League - Players to Watch:

Bradford Bulls
Oscar Thomas (21, Half-back/Fly-Half)

Doncaster
David Scott (22, Wing)

Hull
Adam Walker (24, Prop)

London Broncos
Ben Hellewell (23, Centre/Fullback)
Alex Walker (20, Fullback)

Salford
Liam Hood (23, Hooker/Scrum-Half)

Warrington
Matty Russell (?,?)



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Re: Scottish Player List (playing outside of Scotland) & transfers

Post by A Simply Mesmeric Try on Wed 11 Nov 2015, 3:06 pm

Harry Leonard, showed much potential in his early days but did a bit of a Ruaridh Jackson - impressive first few caps then withered away to mediocrity. To be fair, I think Jackson is a very good player now, and that he was unlucky not to take Weir's place in the WC squad. 

How is Leonard playing these days?

Was just reading about Huw Jones. He really needs to be signed (or capped) soon. A great talent that has played his way into the top South African teams. He had trials with Sharks and Cheetahs before being signed by the Stormers.

He's another former pupil of Millfield, like young Adam Hastings. Millfield rugby alumni also include, JPR Williams, Gareth Edwards, Olly, Morgan, Matt Perry, Chris Robshaw, Will Harries and Rys Ruddock). Quite an impressive list!

Other alumni include swimmer Mark Foster, Model Sophie Dahl and actress Rose Leslie [of Clan Leslie] aka Igrid the Wildling - "You know nothin' John Snow".

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Post by A Simply Mesmeric Try on Sat 14 Nov 2015, 5:25 pm

David Sisi left Bath and returned to London Irish this season. OP updated.

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Post by Majestic83 on Sat 14 Nov 2015, 10:43 pm

A Simply Mesmeric Try wrote:OP updated with Edinburgh's David Denton moving to Bath.

Also, added the other McKenzie kiwi. Brothers Damien (FH/FB for Chiefs) and Marty (FB/WG for Crusaders) are cousins to Robbie Robinson (FB/FH for Toyota Verblitz and formerly of the Chiefs).

Damien is scots qualified but Marty isn't. Marty played nz7s so is tied to them.

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Post by Margin_Walker on Sat 14 Nov 2015, 10:46 pm

A Simply Mesmeric Try wrote:David Sisi left Bath and returned to London Irish this season. OP updated.

He's actually at Irish on a season long loan. Still technically a Bath player.

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Post by A Simply Mesmeric Try on Sun 15 Nov 2015, 4:07 am

Margin_Walker wrote:
A Simply Mesmeric Try wrote:David Sisi left Bath and returned to London Irish this season. OP updated.

He's actually at Irish on a season long loan. Still technically a Bath player.
Cheers, OP reverted.

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Post by BigGee on Mon 23 Nov 2015, 7:04 pm

I see that Adam Sinclair is now playing for London Irish, making his debut for the A team tonight in Bristol. He was a decent prospect and was at the Perpignan academy for a while and I believe he has been playing in France D2. Nice to see he is getting the chance to step up a league.

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Post by George Carlin on Tue 24 Nov 2015, 6:34 am

I notice every week that Bordeaux-Begles have two players called Hugh Chalmers and Blair Connor. Shuggy is a 31 year old Kiwi apparently and Connor is a 26 year old Aussie who apparently wants to play for France but is satisfyingly ginger.

I have no reason other than their Newton Mearns/Ravelston names to believe that they may be SQ, but that's the sort of superficial idiot I am.

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Post by Majestic83 on Tue 24 Nov 2015, 9:38 am

George Carlin wrote:I notice every week that Bordeaux-Begles have two players called Hugh Chalmers and Blair Connor. Shuggy is a 31 year old Kiwi apparently and Connor is a 26 year old Aussie who apparently wants to play for France but is satisfyingly ginger.

I have no reason other than their Newton Mearns/Ravelston names to believe that they may be SQ, but that's the sort of superficial idiot I am.

Noticed these 2 quite a few times as well but from what I remember I don't think either qualify for Scotland. Think both of them have Scottish links but its from their great grand parents.

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Post by Majestic83 on Tue 24 Nov 2015, 9:49 am

Another two SQ players to add to the list that are playing in New Zealand. Rob Thompson who is a centre in the Highlanders squad. Not seen him play yet so not sure how good he is, mates in NZ say he is pretty good though.
The other is Sam McNicol who is a full back or wing, played for the Hurricanes last season in a few games and looked very impressive. Signed for the chiefs this season and will be battling for the full back slot with Damian McKenzie.

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Post by funnyExiledScot on Tue 24 Nov 2015, 12:23 pm

Majestic83 wrote:Another two SQ players to add to the list that are playing in New Zealand. Rob Thompson who is a centre in the Highlanders squad. Not seen him play yet so not sure how good he is, mates in NZ say he is pretty good though.
The other is Sam McNicol who is a full back or wing, played for the Hurricanes last season in a few games and looked very impressive. Signed for the chiefs this season and will be battling for the full back slot with Damian McKenzie.

With Cuthbert, McLennan and Strauss all out of contract at the end of the year (and of questionnable ability) these two could well be worth a look for Edinburgh. We have Ben Atiga on the books now as well to give guided tours of the City to all newcomers. What's not to like.

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Post by highland_scot on Tue 24 Nov 2015, 1:28 pm

funnyExiledScot wrote:
Majestic83 wrote:Another two SQ players to add to the list that are playing in New Zealand. Rob Thompson who is a centre in the Highlanders squad. Not seen him play yet so not sure how good he is, mates in NZ say he is pretty good though.
The other is Sam McNicol who is a full back or wing, played for the Hurricanes last season in a few games and looked very impressive. Signed for the chiefs this season and will be battling for the full back slot with Damian McKenzie.

With Cuthbert, McLennan and Strauss all out of contract at the end of the year (and of questionnable ability) these two could well be worth a look for Edinburgh. We have Ben Atiga on the books now as well to give guided tours of the City to all newcomers. What's not to like.

Presumably these guided tours will be starting from Auld Jock's Pie Shop, encompassing all the culinary highlights of Edinburgh and culminate with a deep fried mars bar?

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Post by George Carlin on Tue 24 Nov 2015, 1:34 pm

highland_scot wrote:
funnyExiledScot wrote:
Majestic83 wrote:Another two SQ players to add to the list that are playing in New Zealand. Rob Thompson who is a centre in the Highlanders squad. Not seen him play yet so not sure how good he is, mates in NZ say he is pretty good though.
The other is Sam McNicol who is a full back or wing, played for the Hurricanes last season in a few games and looked very impressive. Signed for the chiefs this season and will be battling for the full back slot with Damian McKenzie.

With Cuthbert, McLennan and Strauss all out of contract at the end of the year (and of questionnable ability) these two could well be worth a look for Edinburgh. We have Ben Atiga on the books now as well to give guided tours of the City to all newcomers. What's not to like.

Presumably these guided tours will be starting from Auld Jock's Pie Shop, encompassing all the culinary highlights of Edinburgh and culminate with a deep fried mars bar?
Still better than Ryan Grant and Ryan Wilson's tour of Glasgow which allegedly culminates in a 4am stooshie in a Dumbarton Road kebab shop dressed as Wolverine.

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Post by A Simply Mesmeric Try on Sat 26 Dec 2015, 7:18 pm

Edinburgh stalwart Roddy Grant has retired at the age of 28. Sad to lose him so early.

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Post by SirBurger on Sat 26 Dec 2015, 7:51 pm

Maitland had a very good game at 15 for Irish today. Lots of time on the ball and very powerful bringing it forwards.

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Post by MacKnocked-on on Sun 24 Jan 2016, 5:33 pm

Just been watching Exeter v the Ospreys on BT Sport and the commentator mentioned that the Ospreys no6 Sam Underhill was SQ. Only 19 and looks a fantastic player already but he's qualified for three or four countries so perhaps he might not see himself as a Scotland player. Another for the list though.

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Post by A Simply Mesmeric Try on Sun 24 Jan 2016, 5:36 pm

MacKnocked-on wrote:Just been watching Exeter v the Ospreys on BT Sport and the commentator mentioned that the Ospreys no6 Sam Underhill was SQ. Only 19 and looks a fantastic player already but he's qualified for three or four countries so perhaps he might not see himself as a Scotland player. Another for the list though.


Interesting! I'll add him.

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Post by RDW_Scotland on Sun 24 Jan 2016, 5:42 pm

The English and Welsh are creaming themselves over him just now, so I can't see him becoming Scottish any time soon!

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Post by MacKnocked-on on Sun 24 Jan 2016, 5:48 pm

RDW_Scotland wrote:The English and Welsh are creaming themselves over him just now, so I can't see him becoming Scottish any time soon!

Yes, I think he will very much be in the same bracket as Johnny Williams in that respect.

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Post by Nematode on Sun 24 Jan 2016, 7:21 pm

He's a very exciting talent and I'd be grateful to see him in a Scottish jersey, however, he's played for England U18 and is really developing with the Ospreys so I feel they should have first pick over him.

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Post by CraigS1874 on Wed 27 Jan 2016, 9:17 am

MacKnocked-on wrote:
RDW_Scotland wrote:The English and Welsh are creaming themselves over him just now, so I can't see him becoming Scottish any time soon!

Yes, I think he will very much be in the same bracket as Johnny Williams in that respect.  
I noticed Johnny Willian's was not in the England under 20 squad, surely big been should get on the phone

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Post by BamBam on Wed 27 Jan 2016, 9:39 am

CraigS1874 wrote:
MacKnocked-on wrote:
RDW_Scotland wrote:The English and Welsh are creaming themselves over him just now, so I can't see him becoming Scottish any time soon!

Yes, I think he will very much be in the same bracket as Johnny Williams in that respect.  
I noticed Johnny Willian's was not in the England under 20 squad, surely big been should get on the phone

Think it was mentioned that he wasn't in our u20 squad due to being a first team player for his club, was someone else under the same category but can't remember who


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Post by Majestic83 on Wed 27 Jan 2016, 1:38 pm

For any tweeters on here, the Scottish exiles page is worth a follow, some pretty good info on the up and coming players with quite a few in Aviva premiership academies.

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Post by nickj on Thu 07 Apr 2016, 1:19 pm

Matt Proudfoot, the ex Scotland prop is one for coaches list.

Interesting to see another Scots coach making a name for himself to the extent he's being tipped as Coetzee's assistant and / or forwards coach:

http://www.planetrugby.com/news/possible-bok-coaching-staff/


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Post by funnyExiledScot on Fri 08 Apr 2016, 11:16 am

I remember when Proudfoot came through as a player. Big unit and hotly tipped but never really made his mark.

Certainly useful keeping track of this coaches. I think Edinburgh will be doing some headhunting come the end of next season.

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Post by RDW_Scotland on Fri 08 Apr 2016, 11:30 am

Simon Cross - Worcester defence coach

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Post by True Raven on Fri 08 Apr 2016, 11:50 am

Scarlets fans are saying they've signed crusaders wing johnny mcnichol, sounds a bit Scottish to me

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Post by funnyExiledScot on Fri 08 Apr 2016, 11:55 am

RDW_Scotland wrote:Simon Cross - Worcester defence coach

Not been a great season!

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Post by RDW_Scotland on Fri 08 Apr 2016, 12:09 pm

funnyExiledScot wrote:
RDW_Scotland wrote:Simon Cross - Worcester defence coach

Not been a great season!

Disagree - they were probably favourites to go down so it is a great effort to stay up.

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Post by EWT Spoons on Fri 08 Apr 2016, 12:45 pm

True Raven wrote:Scarlets fans are saying they've signed crusaders wing johnny mcnichol, sounds a bit Scottish to me

He's apparently Scottish qualified, so if that's true, could be good news. Unless Wales want him and it's part of his Scarlets contract.

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Post by funnyExiledScot on Fri 08 Apr 2016, 1:38 pm

RDW_Scotland wrote:
funnyExiledScot wrote:
RDW_Scotland wrote:Simon Cross - Worcester defence coach

Not been a great season!

Disagree - they were probably favourites to go down so it is a great effort to stay up.

I suppose there's something in that.....

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Post by A Simply Mesmeric Try on Mon 18 Apr 2016, 1:54 am

Noticed the Mighty Coo (Mike Cusack) on the bench for Falcons against Irish. I hadn't noticed he'd left Glasgow so duly updated the OP.

It's going to be interesting to see who goes where in the coming months.

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Post by Tattie Scones RRN on Thu 21 Apr 2016, 10:44 am

Moray Low seems to like it at Exeter...

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/36092526


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Post by George Carlin on Thu 21 Apr 2016, 12:35 pm

Tattie Scones RRN wrote:Moray Low seems to like it at Exeter...

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/36092526

I saw that. Fantastic club and I'm really pleased for him.

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Post by nickj on Tue 17 May 2016, 5:00 pm

Proudfoot announced as Boks asst to Coetzee

http://www.planetrugby.com/news/proudfoot-joins-springbok-coaching-staff/

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Post by funnyExiledScot on Tue 17 May 2016, 5:33 pm

nickj wrote:Proudfoot announced as Boks asst to Coetzee

http://www.planetrugby.com/news/proudfoot-joins-springbok-coaching-staff/

Useful for him to gain experience with a smaller rugby nation. He can join up as Toonie's assistant for Scotland once Cotter has won us the World Cup.

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Post by nickj on Tue 17 May 2016, 5:40 pm

Yep. Presume we'll poach him, like we did old Richie Gray, once he's found his feet at international
Level. You've got to feel for these minnows...

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Post by Tattie Scones RRN on Thu 19 May 2016, 4:24 pm

Ritchie Gray signs a 4 year contract with Toulouse.

No return to Glasgow then....

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Post by funnyExiledScot on Thu 19 May 2016, 4:35 pm

He must be enjoying life in Fran$e.

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Post by EWT Spoons on Thu 19 May 2016, 7:10 pm

nickj wrote:Proudfoot announced as Boks asst to Coetzee

http://www.planetrugby.com/news/proudfoot-joins-springbok-coaching-staff/

Not quite the same level, but young(ish, was a year above me at school) Scottish coach is now the assistant manager at Canada

http://www.scrummagazine.com/2016/05/17/scot-named-assistant-coach-canada/

Been coaching out there for a couple of years now

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Post by Tattie Scones RRN on Thu 26 May 2016, 2:59 pm

Just seen a tweet from James Tennant that Sean Maitland had a medical at Saracens last week and the move will be confirmed after Saturday's match Shocked

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Post by GeordieFalcon on Thu 26 May 2016, 3:42 pm

We have signed your U20 back row / lock Andrew Davidson for next season. And of all the positions locks seem to progress very well, so one for the future.

Looks a big lad already. Will be on dual contract probably with Blaydon or Tynedale I would imagine.

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Post by nickj on Thu 26 May 2016, 3:47 pm

Maits no Sarries is a great move. Also chuffed for Davidson. I hope he gets some gametime. He seems to have played a bit at 6 too...

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Post by funnyExiledScot on Thu 26 May 2016, 4:14 pm

Very pleased for Maitland. This move makes a lot of sense for both parties. He'll do well there.

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Post by NeilyBroon on Thu 26 May 2016, 4:15 pm

Good news on Maitland - hoping he gets considered for wing as well as FB as he'll be second fiddle to Alex Goode no doubt.


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Post by IanBru on Thu 26 May 2016, 4:42 pm

GeordieFalcon wrote:We have signed your U20 back row / lock Andrew Davidson for next season. And of all the positions locks seem to progress very well, so one for the future.

Looks a big lad already. Will be on dual contract probably with Blaydon or Tynedale I would imagine.
It'll be great to see Davidson at KP - I always get accused of shouting too much for the Scotland boys. Of course that's rubbish, but I do occasionally lose my s**t when Ally Hogg makes a carry.

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Post by EWT Spoons on Fri 05 Aug 2016, 8:45 am

I've tried to update the list of players outwith Scotland in the Pro12 and the Aviva, might need some work:


Guinness Pro12 (Wales & Ireland):

Connacht
LK - Ally Muldowney^
BR - Eoghan Masterson

Ospreys
BR - Sam Underhill

Scarlets
BR - John Barclay*
WG - Jonny McNicholl



English Aviva Premiership:

Bath
N8 - David Denton*
BR - David Sisi
FH - Adam Hastings

Bristol
PR - Kyle Traynor*
BR - Mitch Eadie
WG - George Watkins

Exeter Chiefs Chief
PR - Moray Low*
LK - Ollie Atkins^
BR - Aaron Thomson
FB - Byron McGuigan^

Gloucester
SH - Greig Laidlaw*,
IC – Matt Scott

Harlequins
WG - Tim Visser*
WG - Robbie Nairn
FH - Ruaridh Jackson*

Newcastle Falcons
PR - John Welsh*
HK - Scott Lawson*
Lock - Glen Young
Lock / 6 - Andrew Davidson
BR - Ally Hogg*
SH - Rhaurid Dawson

Northampton Saints
LK - Alan Gregory
FH - G.Haldane
FH - R.Hutchison

Sale Sharks
PR - Jamie Ross
BR - George Bordill
N8 - George Blackwell
OC/WG Byron McGuigan


Saracens
LK - Jim Hamilton*
BR - Kelly Brown*
CR - Duncan Taylor*
WG - Sean Maitland*

Wasps
HK - Sam James
SH - Jamie Stevenson

Worcester Warriors
N8 - Tom Dodd
FH - Tom Heathcote*
CR - Alex Grove*
FB - Alex Nisbet


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Post by RDW_Scotland on Fri 05 Aug 2016, 8:48 am

A few changes - I think Steve McColl has left Gloucester. Scott MaCloed has retired too. Are Scott Lawson and Ally Hogg still playing?

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Post by EWT Spoons on Fri 05 Aug 2016, 8:55 am

I was relying on Wikipedia (not the most reliable of sources) and it still has McColl at Gloucester, BUT, had I bothered to look one result down in the list of google search results I would have seen he's at Yorkshire now. Thanks

Scott Lawson tweeted 6 days ago he was away on the Falcons training camp so I guess so.

Not sure on Ally Hogg, not seen anything saying he's called it a day



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Post by TheMildlyFranticLlama on Fri 05 Aug 2016, 9:27 am

Also Byron McGuigan has recently signed for Sale

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Post by EWT Spoons on Fri 05 Aug 2016, 9:32 am

TheMildlyFranticLlama wrote:Also Byron McGuigan has recently signed for Sale

Updated, thanks

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