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Post by Fernando on Sat 28 Nov 2015, 5:12 pm

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Leicester City XI: Schmeichel; Simpson, Huth, Morgan (c), Fuchs; Mahrez, Kanté, Drinkwater, Albrighton; Okazaki, Vardy

Leicester City Subs: De Laet, King, Schlupp, Ulloa, Dyer, Schwarzer, Inler

Manchester United XI: to face Leicester: De Gea, Darmian, McNair, Smalling, Blind, Carrick, Schweinsteiger, Mata, Young, Rooney, Martial

Manchester United Subs: Romero, Borthwick-Jackson, Fellaini, Memphis, Pereira, Schneiderlin, Rashford






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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly on Sun 29 Nov 2015, 6:36 pm

Sky sports showing a Robbie Brady montage, show Wes Hoolahan for half of it.

C'mon folks
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Post by lfc91 on Sun 29 Nov 2015, 6:38 pm

All things considered a good win for Liverpool. A few months back that is the sort of game we would draw or lose after being ahead. Showed against City and Chelsea we can win playing the attractive style but if you want to finish high up the league you need to be able to win messy also. Hendo being back is a real boost (I will be more optimistic about sturridge being 'back' if he manages to avoid injury the next few weeks). Put ourselves nicely back into the race for top 4.

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Post by Guest on Mon 30 Nov 2015, 3:39 pm

Spurs apparently offering Andros Townsend to WBA + (£20m-£25m) for Saido, in January. Spurs thinking they can get more out of the player, than just sending him to Newcastle on loan.

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Post by Fernando on Mon 30 Nov 2015, 3:53 pm

I don't get why they want Berahino. Waste of money for a bench player for them.

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Post by Dolphin Ziggler on Mon 30 Nov 2015, 5:55 pm

Sakho out for two months. Thank god we got some early points on the board

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Post by Guest on Tue 01 Dec 2015, 11:25 am

Hahaha, oh dear. You know how desperate things are, when you recall Mike Williamson from a loan spell, to sort out your defence.

Christ, we're gone.

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Post by Guest on Wed 02 Dec 2015, 2:04 pm

not sure if it was a joke at first, but gary neville is the new valencia manager & has quit sky

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Post by westisbest on Wed 02 Dec 2015, 2:11 pm

Just seen that John.

Be interesting to see how he does.

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Post by Guest on Wed 02 Dec 2015, 2:16 pm

Henry & Carragher. R.I.P MNF

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Post by Dolphin Ziggler on Wed 02 Dec 2015, 2:42 pm

Very interesting move, obviously down to his links with Lim. I would bet their former manager claims the hire of Phil showed there was intent to do this all along.

Radio callers were all talking about how he the plan must be to thrive at Valencia then take the Man United job, but considering he has a contract to the end of the season, surely this could be a good 6 month experience stint before taking over from Hodgson? You've got to think that if he does well then he'd be favourite were Woy to leave after the Euros.

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Post by Crimey on Wed 02 Dec 2015, 3:02 pm

A very weird job for him to take as his first role though, I'm not sure what Gary's Spanish is like but taking over Valencia is certainly not what many expected would be his first job. I imagine if he does do well there will be a lot of speculation linking him with both Manchester United and England but surely it's far too early in his career to take on such a big role. There is a massive difference between being a good pundit and being a good manager or coach, just like there is a big difference between those two and being a good player. It will be interesting to see if Neville can translate his incite gained from watching so much football and analysing it in a studio to actually being the one to apply tactics.

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Post by Guest on Wed 02 Dec 2015, 3:31 pm

Never in a million years was this his ideal route into management, it's more of being pressured into the role from Lim, who he probably couldn't turn down, given he invested in Gary's passions of improving Salford. Just looks like repaying one favour to the other, for me. Six month deal too, just stinks of desperation from Lim, with no real planning or experience of owning a top football club. You've just seen how difficult it was for David Moyes, with vast experience in the management game & Gary can't speak Spanish, so I expect Phil to still be doing most of the work.

Can England really employ Gary after a six month spell at Valencia, as his only management experience? Seems strange.

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Post by Alistair on Wed 02 Dec 2015, 3:41 pm

He's been in the England setup long enough to be trusted. He knows the players and the talent pool. If he can come out of Valencia with a positive experience then why not?

When people like Pearce, Taylor and even Southgate have ballsed up the Under 21's, you're better off giving the job to someone who knows how it works.

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Post by Guest on Wed 02 Dec 2015, 3:58 pm

i see it two ways, if we do well at euro 2016 & see visible improvement, then gary will probably be appointed. If if goes the other way though, the only thing i'd question is, if we fail miserably at euro 2016, why appoint gary after woy, when he's already been deeply involved in two failed campaigns (brazil & france), in giving his advice & input already. you'd need a new manager at the helm from the outside, in my opinion, as gary would still be associated with being in the management hierarchy of two previously failed tournaments.

not entirely sure what we will learn about neville from this small stint.

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Post by Dolphin Ziggler on Wed 02 Dec 2015, 4:49 pm

If its long term and there have been signs within the setup that Neville is tuned in to what management requires then it makes sense. Grooming a coach into what they want of the international team, longevity planning. And a young coach too. I think its an easy route for him. Its not the hardest job, expectations are low, they wont be expected to do anything incredible and if it doesnt work out then he has so many excuses to fall back on.

There are plenty of names about who havent got much to any experience who suddenly take managerial roles and do well. The international game is completely different to managing a club too. This way he has 6 months to get into actual management.

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Post by Fernando on Thu 03 Dec 2015, 11:22 am

Man Utd trying to sign Moussa Dembele according to SSN.....



The Fulham one not Spurs

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Post by westisbest on Sat 05 Dec 2015, 11:25 am

Off to Southampton shortly.

As this thread title says, we go again.
Dissapointing after last saturdays result.

Saints will be hurting after wednesday.
Fancy us to finally get the win we desperatly need.

The great escape starts today.
Keep the faith.

UTV. OK

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Post by compelling and rich on Sat 05 Dec 2015, 11:46 am

see if i can stay awake for a united game, good time to be playing west ham though. i expect a very dull 1-0 win

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Post by Dolphin Ziggler on Sat 05 Dec 2015, 12:19 pm

Pretty much exactly how I see it going. A very dull game with a lack of dynamism in either team.

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Post by compelling and rich on Sat 05 Dec 2015, 12:49 pm

city got a poor defence out and stoke play no forwards against it picard

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Post by Duty281 on Sat 05 Dec 2015, 12:55 pm

Demichelis....what a class defender.

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Post by compelling and rich on Sat 05 Dec 2015, 1:02 pm

looks like its not going to matter, forward or not

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Post by compelling and rich on Sat 05 Dec 2015, 1:05 pm

at least i was right about having a terrible defence

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Post by Hammersmith harrier on Sat 05 Dec 2015, 1:15 pm

No forwards or not that Stoke forward four whilst very inconsistent can produce something out of nothing like they're showing today, on there day a nightmare to play against.

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Post by compelling and rich on Sat 05 Dec 2015, 1:19 pm

Hammersmith harrier wrote:No forwards or not that Stoke forward four whilst very inconsistent can produce something out of nothing like they're showing today, on there day a nightmare to play against.

i agree, one in 5 players the lot of them at best, just a case for city that few of them are having that one today

there's a reason why stoke are the worse scorers before today

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Post by Hammersmith harrier on Sat 05 Dec 2015, 1:21 pm

If they were more consistent none of them would be at Stoke but for the bigger teams it's just not worth the risk having a passenger for the most part.

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly on Sat 05 Dec 2015, 2:17 pm

At Watford - so so cold and fear a 3-1 defeat
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Post by Dolphin Ziggler on Sat 05 Dec 2015, 2:26 pm

Now Lanzini injured too. No Sakho, no Payet, no Valencia, no Lanzini. Just depressing. That's arguably our first choice front four out. I'm somewhat impressed that we still have an OK side out and that the bench isn't just a list of kids. Sadly Jelavic is one of our two attacking options on that bench. But in years gone by we couldn't lose our best 4 attacking players and still play players the calibre of Moses, Zarate and Carroll when we lost our best attacking players.  

We'll get beat easily in a slow boring game though. Fellaini in to sit on Carroll I'm sure

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Post by Guest on Sat 05 Dec 2015, 3:07 pm

Mahrez 0-1 to Leicester

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Post by Hammersmith harrier on Sat 05 Dec 2015, 3:08 pm

So we have a right back playing at left back, a centre back playing at right back and a left back playing at centre back.

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Post by compelling and rich on Sat 05 Dec 2015, 3:11 pm

Hammersmith harrier wrote:So we have a right back playing at left back, a centre back playing at right back and a left back playing at centre back.

its his philosophy

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Post by Dolphin Ziggler on Sat 05 Dec 2015, 3:12 pm

Should be 1-0 up. Moses not a great finisher

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Post by Hammersmith harrier on Sat 05 Dec 2015, 3:17 pm

Not entirely sure that isn't handball.

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Post by Guest on Sat 05 Dec 2015, 3:24 pm

Mahrez makes it 0-2

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Post by Dolphin Ziggler on Sat 05 Dec 2015, 3:25 pm

When its not your day...

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Post by Dolphin Ziggler on Sat 05 Dec 2015, 3:30 pm

He makes that "mistake" a lot Fellaini...

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Post by compelling and rich on Sat 05 Dec 2015, 3:33 pm

wouldnt give up just yet dolph been much the better team since the first 15 minutes

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Post by compelling and rich on Sat 05 Dec 2015, 3:36 pm

moses pace on the break looked a threat, him going off helps even if he is a terrible finisher

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Post by Dolphin Ziggler on Sat 05 Dec 2015, 3:38 pm

Another?! Jesus Christ. Injuries continuously. 

It just feels like one of those days when you go away, don't take the chances then lose 1-0. Except if we concede with more than 20 mins to go I'd imagine we'll concede a few

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Post by Fernando on Sat 05 Dec 2015, 3:41 pm

Nice to see Antonio get a decent run out could cause issues for United.

The Ozil Assist train is still chugging along up to 12 now.

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Post by Guest on Sat 05 Dec 2015, 3:42 pm

James McCLean makes it 1-1. Lovely stuff.

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Post by compelling and rich on Sat 05 Dec 2015, 3:45 pm

fellaini, schweinsteiger and now carrick must be the slowest central midfield there has ever been

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Post by Guest on Sat 05 Dec 2015, 3:47 pm

Arsenal 1-1 Giroud

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Post by Dolphin Ziggler on Sat 05 Dec 2015, 3:48 pm

Schwein a bit lucky to go unpunished too?

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Post by Guest on Sat 05 Dec 2015, 4:06 pm

I think Garry Monk lacks the managerial experience to get out of this.  He is still learning.  He needs help.  Compare him with Allardyce or Pulis.  In fact there is a lot of high quality managers in the Premiership.  Remi Garde looks like a highly promising manager - but he has to try to do something with Aston Villa. Remi Garde it seems could be Wengers replacement at Arsenal - if ever Wenger retires.

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Post by Guest on Sat 05 Dec 2015, 4:11 pm

Nore Staat wrote:I think Garry Monk lacks the managerial experience to get out of this.  He is still learning.  He needs help.  Compare him with Allardyce or Pulis.  In fact there is a lot of high quality managers in the Premiership.  Remi Garde looks like a highly promising manager - but he has to try to do something with Aston Villa.  Remi Garde it seems could be Wengers replacement at Arsenal - if ever Wenger retires.

You must be joking. They will be lining up Guardiola types, not a manager previously linked with Newcastle & ended up at Villa.

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Post by Dolphin Ziggler on Sat 05 Dec 2015, 4:15 pm

Lovely football and Zarate misses a sitter. It's gonna be one of those days

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Post by GSC on Sat 05 Dec 2015, 4:20 pm

2-1 Arsenal - Giroud
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Post by Guest on Sat 05 Dec 2015, 4:25 pm

Swansea 0-3 Leicester - Hat-trick

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Post by Guest on Sat 05 Dec 2015, 4:28 pm

John wrote:Swansea 0-3 Leicester - Hat-trick
Swansea have two thirds of the possession but the shots stats are:

.................Swansea ........ Leicester
Shots ......... 4 .................... 8
on target .... 0 .................... 5

Monk is losing the match due to tactics.

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