Champions Cup Pool 4: Stade Francais Paris v Munster, 9 January

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Champions Cup Pool 4: Stade Francais Paris v Munster, 9 January

Post by George Carlin on Tue 05 Jan 2016, 7:08 am

                      
Stade Francais Paris v Munster Rugby 

Saturday 9 January 2016
KO: 17:45
Stade Jean Bouin, Paris

Live on FR2 / Sky Sports / beIN Sports

Referee Nigel Owens (Wales)
Touch Judge 1 Sean Brickell (Wales)
Touch Judge 2 Jon Hardy (Wales)
Fourth Official Remi De L'Isle (France)
TMO Derek Bevan (Wales)
Assessor Jim Fleming (Scotland)
Citing Commissioner Douglas Hunter (Scotland)

A. Head to Head

4 Played 4
1 Wins 3
3 Losses 1
0 Draws 0
72 Points 95

B. Recent European Form

Stade Francais Paris
19/12/15: SF Paris 40 - 14 Treviso
12/12/15: Treviso 17 - 50 SF Paris
13/11/15: Tigers 33 - 20 SF Paris

Munster Rugby
20/12/15: Tigers 17 - 6 Munster
12/12/15: Munster 19 - 31 Tigers
14/11/15: Munster 32 - 7 Treviso

C. Teams

Stade Francais Paris

[tbc]

Munster Rugby

[tbc]

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Re: Champions Cup Pool 4: Stade Francais Paris v Munster, 9 January

Post by eirebilly on Tue 05 Jan 2016, 12:25 pm

I will have to wait and see the teams but right now, I cant see a Munster win in this.

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Re: Champions Cup Pool 4: Stade Francais Paris v Munster, 9 January

Post by sensisball on Tue 05 Jan 2016, 2:35 pm

Stade, last year's T14 champs, are flirting with the relegation zone at the moment. A decent comeback against Toulouse secured a much needed win at the weekend. I cant see them caring much about Europe, just wanting a chance to defend their crown, which means a top 6 finish.
I suspect Stade will field a weakened team and Munster, buoyed after their stuffy win away at Ulster, will fancy their chances if they can be bothered to send a strong team.

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Re: Champions Cup Pool 4: Stade Francais Paris v Munster, 9 January

Post by formerly known as Sam on Tue 05 Jan 2016, 3:24 pm

If Munster could beat Stade that would be useful. Would pretty much end their interest in Europe and hopefully allow Tigers an easier trip to Paris.

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Re: Champions Cup Pool 4: Stade Francais Paris v Munster, 9 January

Post by eirebilly on Tue 05 Jan 2016, 5:04 pm

formerly known as Sam wrote:If Munster could beat Stade that would be useful. Would pretty much end their interest in Europe and hopefully allow Tigers an easier trip to Paris.

Jaysus, a Tigers fan hoping for a Munster win Shocked Cool Wink

I do hope Munster win but I think they are in some poor form even if they did manage a win against Ulster.

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Re: Champions Cup Pool 4: Stade Francais Paris v Munster, 9 January

Post by Welly on Fri 08 Jan 2016, 12:05 pm

Come on Munster win this bloody game please.

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Re: Champions Cup Pool 4: Stade Francais Paris v Munster, 9 January

Post by LondonTiger on Fri 08 Jan 2016, 12:20 pm

Munster: Andrew Conway; Keith Earls, Francis Saili, Rory Scannell, Simon Zebo; Ian Keatley, Conor Murray; Dave Kilcoyne, Mike Sherry, BJ Botha; Dave Foley, Mark Chisholm; Robin Copeland, Tommy O'Donnell, CJ Stander - capt.

Replacements: Niall Scannell, John Ryan, Mario Sagario, Billy Holland, Jack O'Donoghue, Tomás O'Leary, Denis Hurley, Ronan O'Mahony.

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Re: Champions Cup Pool 4: Stade Francais Paris v Munster, 9 January

Post by LondonTiger on Fri 08 Jan 2016, 12:22 pm

Stade Francais Paris
15. Hugo Bonneval; 14. Julien Arias, 13. Waisea Vuidarvuwalu, 12. Paul Williams, 11. Josaia Raisuqe; 10. Morné Steyn, 9. Julien Dupuy; 1. Zak Taulafo, 2. Laurent Sempéré, 3. Paul Alo Emile, 4. Hugh Pyle, 5. Paul Gabrillagues, 6. Sekou Macalou, 7. Sylvain Nicolas, 8. Sergio Parisse
16. Laurent Panis, 17. Heinke Van der Merwe, 18. Rabah Slimani, 19. Gerhard Mostert, 20. Jonathan Ross, 21. Julien Tomas, 22. Jules Plisson, 23. Jonathan Danty

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Re: Champions Cup Pool 4: Stade Francais Paris v Munster, 9 January

Post by eirebilly on Sat 09 Jan 2016, 4:19 pm

Strong team for Munster today but I am still not very optimistic.

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Re: Champions Cup Pool 4: Stade Francais Paris v Munster, 9 January

Post by eirebilly on Sat 09 Jan 2016, 4:56 pm

Conway off early, doesn't look good.

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Re: Champions Cup Pool 4: Stade Francais Paris v Munster, 9 January

Post by eirebilly on Sat 09 Jan 2016, 4:59 pm

Now Botha off, 2 injuries in the first 10mins for Munster...

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Re: Champions Cup Pool 4: Stade Francais Paris v Munster, 9 January

Post by eirebilly on Sat 09 Jan 2016, 5:39 pm

Owens got that absolutely right, Josaia Raisuqe had his fingers in Standers eyes. Stupid thing o do and a deserved red card.

Not a great game with Munster also loosing TOD but Stade are worth their 10 point lead although Keatley missed two kicks that he should be making. The 2nd half will be interesting now.

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Re: Champions Cup Pool 4: Stade Francais Paris v Munster, 9 January

Post by Marshes on Sat 09 Jan 2016, 6:12 pm

Jesus Munster are being mullered by 14 men here, the scrum is being obliterated.

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Re: Champions Cup Pool 4: Stade Francais Paris v Munster, 9 January

Post by Chunky Norwich on Sat 09 Jan 2016, 6:15 pm

Scrums and Nigel O'wens don't mix. He is awful.

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Re: Champions Cup Pool 4: Stade Francais Paris v Munster, 9 January

Post by eirebilly on Sat 09 Jan 2016, 6:18 pm

Stade have turned up Marshes but Munster are truly terrible and Keatley is again having one of those games again...

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Re: Champions Cup Pool 4: Stade Francais Paris v Munster, 9 January

Post by whocares on Sat 09 Jan 2016, 6:22 pm

That was serious dangerous foul play from Chisholm on Sempere and yet nothing from Mr Owens. I know he does not like the French but Nigel should be a bit more respectful on time to time...

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Re: Champions Cup Pool 4: Stade Francais Paris v Munster, 9 January

Post by Marshes on Sat 09 Jan 2016, 6:23 pm

Yep it was always going to be tough but Stade seem really up for it. Feel bad for Keatley, finding it tough to get out of the slump.

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Re: Champions Cup Pool 4: Stade Francais Paris v Munster, 9 January

Post by eirebilly on Sat 09 Jan 2016, 6:26 pm

I don't believe its a slump for Keatley, its the way he is. He has some good moments/games but he is generally a poor player.

Wonderful try from Stade clap

That's the end of Munster in Europe.

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Re: Champions Cup Pool 4: Stade Francais Paris v Munster, 9 January

Post by Marshes on Sat 09 Jan 2016, 6:30 pm

eirebilly wrote:I don't believe its a slump for Keatley, its the way he is. He has some good moments/games but he is generally a poor player.

Wonderful try from Stade clap

That's the end of Munster in Europe.

I mean he has definitely dropped off of even inconsistently good/bad from previous seasons, now he is a liability.

Two well worked tries but to be fair the defence for both has been very poor.

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Re: Champions Cup Pool 4: Stade Francais Paris v Munster, 9 January

Post by eirebilly on Sat 09 Jan 2016, 6:32 pm

Its been an awful performance from Munster but credit to Stade, this is some performance.

I get what you mean now Marshes and agree 100%

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Re: Champions Cup Pool 4: Stade Francais Paris v Munster, 9 January

Post by BigGee on Sat 09 Jan 2016, 6:32 pm

Munster have gone the same way as Glasgow in the second half, both just feel off completely. Munster against 14 men!

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Re: Champions Cup Pool 4: Stade Francais Paris v Munster, 9 January

Post by Cardiff Dave on Sat 09 Jan 2016, 6:34 pm

What's going on at Munster these days?

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Re: Champions Cup Pool 4: Stade Francais Paris v Munster, 9 January

Post by LeinsterFan4life on Sat 09 Jan 2016, 6:38 pm

If Foley isn't sacked in the morning the whole IRFU board needs to go. The provinces have been managed disgracefully the last few seasons.

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Re: Champions Cup Pool 4: Stade Francais Paris v Munster, 9 January

Post by eirebilly on Sat 09 Jan 2016, 6:42 pm

Loosing Botha, Conway and TOD in the first 25 minutes didn't help Munster but that was a bad performance. Munster desperately need a consistent 10 to go further. Its not all Foley's fault and I would not sack him just yet...

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Re: Champions Cup Pool 4: Stade Francais Paris v Munster, 9 January

Post by VinceWLB on Sat 09 Jan 2016, 6:45 pm

whocares wrote:That was serious dangerous foul play from Chisholm on Sempere and yet nothing from Mr Owens. I know he does not like the French but Nigel should be a bit more respectful on time to time...

There was nothing in that as the player wasn't lifted, just an unlucky accident.

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Re: Champions Cup Pool 4: Stade Francais Paris v Munster, 9 January

Post by VinceWLB on Sat 09 Jan 2016, 6:46 pm

Surely this is the right time for Foley to resign?

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Re: Champions Cup Pool 4: Stade Francais Paris v Munster, 9 January

Post by whocares on Sat 09 Jan 2016, 6:46 pm

Feel sad for Munster rugby as an European cup without a Munster team competitive is a bit like cheese without wine to me. Since their defeat at home to Clermont they seem to have gone really downhill. Hope they sort it out.

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Re: Champions Cup Pool 4: Stade Francais Paris v Munster, 9 January

Post by Geen sport voor watjes on Sat 09 Jan 2016, 6:50 pm

Complete and utter rubbish from a second rate team. Needs a root and branch review of the organisation and the management/coaching team. Get rid of the second rate Leinster blow ins (now its clear why Copeland didn't make it). Get JJ Hanrahan back and give people like Rory Scannall and others in the academy a chance to develop. Get rid of Foley, Keatley et al. Loath though I am to say it get Bradley in for the remainder of the season and try to get some proper structures in place.

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Re: Champions Cup Pool 4: Stade Francais Paris v Munster, 9 January

Post by Cardiff Dave on Sat 09 Jan 2016, 6:55 pm

whocares wrote:Feel sad for Munster rugby as an European cup without a Munster team competitive is a bit like cheese without wine to me. Since their defeat at home to Clermont they seem to have gone really downhill. Hope they sort it out.

Me too mate. Very Happy

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Re: Champions Cup Pool 4: Stade Francais Paris v Munster, 9 January

Post by LeinsterFan4life on Sat 09 Jan 2016, 7:03 pm

Cardiff Dave wrote:
whocares wrote:Feel sad for Munster rugby as an European cup without a Munster team competitive is a bit like cheese without wine to me. Since their defeat at home to Clermont they seem to have gone really downhill. Hope they sort it out.

Me too mate. Very Happy
A Cardiff supporter! What a rare sighting.

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Re: Champions Cup Pool 4: Stade Francais Paris v Munster, 9 January

Post by Cardiff Dave on Sat 09 Jan 2016, 7:28 pm

LeinsterFan4life wrote:
Cardiff Dave wrote:
whocares wrote:Feel sad for Munster rugby as an European cup without a Munster team competitive is a bit like cheese without wine to me. Since their defeat at home to Clermont they seem to have gone really downhill. Hope they sort it out.

Me too mate. Very Happy
A Cardiff supporter! What a rare sighting.

Fair point and BOD at the Arms Park was also a rare sighting btw.

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Re: Champions Cup Pool 4: Stade Francais Paris v Munster, 9 January

Post by LeinsterFan4life on Sat 09 Jan 2016, 7:33 pm

Sure we could send the kids over and cone back with a bonus point, imagine what BOD would have done to them Smile

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Re: Champions Cup Pool 4: Stade Francais Paris v Munster, 9 January

Post by Cardiff Dave on Sat 09 Jan 2016, 7:41 pm

LeinsterFan4life wrote:Sure we could send the kids over and cone back with a bonus point, imagine what BOD would have done to them Smile

Even though i'm a Cardiff supporter, I would've loved to have seen more of BOD in his prime ripping us to shreds. Saw him at CAP once I think.

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Re: Champions Cup Pool 4: Stade Francais Paris v Munster, 9 January

Post by LeinsterFan4life on Sat 09 Jan 2016, 8:02 pm

Cardiff Dave wrote:
LeinsterFan4life wrote:Sure we could send the kids over and cone back with a bonus point, imagine what BOD would have done to them Smile

Even though i'm a Cardiff supporter, I would've loved to have seen more of BOD in his prime ripping us to shreds. Saw him at CAP once I think.
Aye well according to him he has been playing with pain since 09 so he did have to be carefully managed. But the season does need a complete overhaul so we can see full teams being fielded more often.

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