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Post by VTR on Tue Jan 12, 2016 8:32 pm

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The pivotal 3rd Test starts in two days time. England are expected to be unchanged. Dale Steyn is out injured for SA and looks doubtful for the rest of the series, though Kyle Abbott is fit and will come into the frame for selection. Another possible change is someone else to open in the place of Van Zyl

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Re: South Africa vs England 3rd Test 14-18th Jan

Post by dyrewolfe on Sat Jan 16, 2016 11:42 pm

Hard to believe SA were 23-0 at one point...
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Re: South Africa vs England 3rd Test 14-18th Jan

Post by alfie on Sat Jan 16, 2016 11:42 pm

Love the line and shape from Stokes this over...terrific bowling clap

Du Plessis and Rabada have a heck of a job on their hands...

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Post by dyrewolfe on Sat Jan 16, 2016 11:44 pm

alfie wrote:Love the line and shape from Stokes this over...terrific bowling clap

Du Plessis and Rabada have a heck of a job on their hands...


I'd call it Mission: Impossible! Wink
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Post by Corporalhumblebucket on Sat Jan 16, 2016 11:45 pm

What an amazing performance from Broad. clap clap He's moved ahead of Bob Willis in number of test wickets taken. clap

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Post by alfie on Sat Jan 16, 2016 11:52 pm

I do like this Rabada. He is totally out of his class here batting ; but he isn't going to give it away. Four to mid off is a welcome score for SA
Finn looking to finish this...

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Post by dyrewolfe on Sat Jan 16, 2016 11:55 pm

I think at this point SA will just be happy if they can pass 74 - their current lowest total.

Bowlers getting a bit sloppy now and bowling some gift balls. Need to keep their focus.
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Post by GSC on Sat Jan 16, 2016 11:57 pm

Broad having one of those spells
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Re: South Africa vs England 3rd Test 14-18th Jan

Post by CaledonianCraig on Sat Jan 16, 2016 11:57 pm

Credit to Rabada here. He isn't going to leave the pitch wondering. South Africa 66 for 7.
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Re: South Africa vs England 3rd Test 14-18th Jan

Post by alfie on Sat Jan 16, 2016 11:57 pm

About the best partnership of the innings Smile

Rabada gets the lead past fifty...

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Re: South Africa vs England 3rd Test 14-18th Jan

Post by dyrewolfe on Sun Jan 17, 2016 12:01 am

Rabada (SA's #9) now top scorer with 16...


...and as I type this Stokes has him caught behind! SA 66-8.

Is this the end of the resistance?


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Post by CaledonianCraig on Sun Jan 17, 2016 12:02 am

Stokes now an improving bowler.

And as I type that he takes his 2nd wicket.
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Re: South Africa vs England 3rd Test 14-18th Jan

Post by alfie on Sun Jan 17, 2016 12:02 am

dyrewolfe wrote:I think at this point SA will just be happy if they can pass 74 - their current lowest total.

Bowlers getting a bit sloppy now and bowling some gift balls. Need to keep their focus.

Often tricky to finish these things : it is all going so well ,you can do nothing wrong...then a period goes by without anything happening. Temptation is to try too hard to wrap it all up...

Just need to stick to what is working.

As Stokes does...eight gone Yahoo

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Re: South Africa vs England 3rd Test 14-18th Jan

Post by CaledonianCraig on Sun Jan 17, 2016 12:03 am

South Africa 67 for 8 with a paltry lead of 57. This will be done and dusted today you would have thought.
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Re: South Africa vs England 3rd Test 14-18th Jan

Post by alfie on Sun Jan 17, 2016 12:05 am

So I guess tea will be delayed now ? Eight down.

Anderson back. Good move I think. Steady to the end ...Du Plessis needs to take charge - can he ?

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Re: South Africa vs England 3rd Test 14-18th Jan

Post by GSC on Sun Jan 17, 2016 12:05 am

This may still be a tricky chase

13 wickets for about 150 so far today
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Re: South Africa vs England 3rd Test 14-18th Jan

Post by VTR on Sun Jan 17, 2016 12:07 am

Wow, amazing stuff. Honestly thought we would be chasing at least 250.

This reminds me a lot of that Test in the Windies when Harmison went berserk

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Re: South Africa vs England 3rd Test 14-18th Jan

Post by dyrewolfe on Sun Jan 17, 2016 12:07 am

alfie wrote:
dyrewolfe wrote:I think at this point SA will just be happy if they can pass 74 - their current lowest total.

Bowlers getting a bit sloppy now and bowling some gift balls. Need to keep their focus.

Often tricky to finish these things  : it is all going so well ,you can do nothing wrong...then a period goes by without anything happening. Temptation is to try too hard to wrap it all up...

Just need to stick  to what is working.


As Stokes does...eight gone Yahoo


Wise words. I guess even the best can start to get impatient and try to fix something that isn't really broken. Wink
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Re: South Africa vs England 3rd Test 14-18th Jan

Post by GSC on Sun Jan 17, 2016 12:10 am

SA survive to tea then?

Can't imagine this goes to a 4th day
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Re: South Africa vs England 3rd Test 14-18th Jan

Post by GSC on Sun Jan 17, 2016 12:12 am

55-8 in that session.

Suspect the SA dressing room may need repainting after this break.
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Re: South Africa vs England 3rd Test 14-18th Jan

Post by CaledonianCraig on Sun Jan 17, 2016 12:12 am

South Africa survive until tea on 71 for 8. A session with 55 runs and 8 wickets. England on the brink of sealing a win you'd think.
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Post by CaledonianCraig on Sun Jan 17, 2016 12:14 am

GSC wrote:SA survive to tea then?

Can't imagine this goes to a 4th day

Bad light may play a part in stretching it to a fourth day but there won't (at this rate) be much play tomorrow.
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Re: South Africa vs England 3rd Test 14-18th Jan

Post by alfie on Sun Jan 17, 2016 12:16 am

Got ahead of myself - of course , only 8 down , tea normal time.

What a session for England ! 24 overs , 8/55.

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Re: South Africa vs England 3rd Test 14-18th Jan

Post by alfie on Sun Jan 17, 2016 12:31 am

Broad back after tea...hardly a surprise Smile

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly on Sun Jan 17, 2016 12:38 am

That was awful from bairstow
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Re: South Africa vs England 3rd Test 14-18th Jan

Post by alfie on Sun Jan 17, 2016 12:39 am

Anderson traps Viljoen lbw ...pending review ...

Oh , stone dead...Jimmy will be glad to get in on the act Smile

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Re: South Africa vs England 3rd Test 14-18th Jan

Post by dyrewolfe on Sun Jan 17, 2016 12:40 am

Some comedy fielding...and running.

Viljoen nearly run out attempting to get a second overthrow run.

...and then he's out lbw and Jimmy Anderson gets his first wicket of the innings.

SA 77-9

Not long now...
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Post by dyrewolfe on Sun Jan 17, 2016 12:41 am

Looking at du Plessis, I wonder what the lowest total is for any top 6 batsman who has carried his bat?

He has to be a good candidate, surely?
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Post by alfie on Sun Jan 17, 2016 12:48 am

dyrewolfe wrote:Looking at du Plessis, I wonder what the lowest total is for any top 6 batsman who has carried his bat?

He has to be a good candidate, surely?

Well he has watched a lot of carnage at the other end...in fairness , he has at least stayed in while six others have fallen... Think he needs to play some shots now - easier said than done , maybe ?

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Post by JDizzle on Sun Jan 17, 2016 12:51 am

What is Faf doing? Single off the first ball...

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Re: South Africa vs England 3rd Test 14-18th Jan

Post by alfie on Sun Jan 17, 2016 12:53 am

England review fails ...and four for Morkel !

SA past previous lows at this ground. Precarious lead of 73 though...what can the last pair add ?

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Post by CaledonianCraig on Sun Jan 17, 2016 12:56 am

South Africa bowled out for 83 leaving England to chase 74. What a catch from Broad and he ends up with 6 for 17. A 2-0 series lead is in the palm of England's hands.


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Re: South Africa vs England 3rd Test 14-18th Jan

Post by dyrewolfe on Sun Jan 17, 2016 12:57 am

And thats it for SA as Broad gets du Plessis c&b. 6 wickets in totla for him. Amazing effort! clap

SA 83 all out.

Routine run chase for England to follow?


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Post by Hammersmith harrier on Sun Jan 17, 2016 12:57 am

JDizzle wrote:What is Faf doing? Single off the first ball...

It's as if he was waiting for something to happen at the other end, he had to try and do something.

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Post by alfie on Sun Jan 17, 2016 12:58 am

alfie wrote:England review fails ...and four for Morkel !

SA past previous lows at this ground.  Precarious lead of 73 though...what can the last pair add ?

OK ...no more at all Smile

Stuart Broad gets a deserved sixth clap Terrific effort for the c&b thumbsup

6/17 .... Brilliant !

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Post by dyrewolfe on Sun Jan 17, 2016 12:59 am

alfie wrote:
dyrewolfe wrote:Looking at du Plessis, I wonder what the lowest total is for any top 6 batsman who has carried his bat?

He has to be a good candidate, surely?

Well he has watched a lot of carnage at the other end...in fairness , he has at least stayed in while six others have fallen...  Think he needs to play some shots now - easier said than done , maybe ?

It wasn't a criticism of him, as such...I agree there wasn't much he could have done. I was just curious as to the lowest not-out score by a top-middle order batsman.
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Post by alfie on Sun Jan 17, 2016 1:11 am

dyrewolfe wrote:And thats it for SA as Broad gets du Plessis c&b. 6 wickets in totla for him. Amazing effort! clap

SA 83 all out.

Routine run chase for England to follow?

Suppose it ought to be...but do England do "routine" ?

Nice start from Hales...

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Post by guildfordbat on Sun Jan 17, 2016 1:14 am

Hardly been able to see any play today but clearly a marvelous performance from Broad. Seems there was decent support too from the other seamers and especially Taylor in the field. clap clap

Third day is often moving day but I doubt that even Pickfords have shifted more in a couple of hours!

Perfect end now will be red ink entries for Cook and the somewhat under pressure Hales.

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Post by alfie on Sun Jan 17, 2016 1:16 am

dyrewolfe wrote:
alfie wrote:
dyrewolfe wrote:Looking at du Plessis, I wonder what the lowest total is for any top 6 batsman who has carried his bat?

He has to be a good candidate, surely?

Well he has watched a lot of carnage at the other end...in fairness , he has at least stayed in while six others have fallen...  Think he needs to play some shots now - easier said than done , maybe ?

It wasn't a criticism of him, as such...I agree there wasn't much he could have done. I was just curious as to the lowest not-out score by a top-middle order batsman.

An interesting question . Someone more patient than I might extract the requisite figures from Cricinfo stats

There have been some very low scores in Tests ; so there may be others where the not out bat - or last out bat - was a top six man , with very little to show for it. Might be back in the early years ?

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Post by alfie on Sun Jan 17, 2016 1:28 am


Nice one , hammersmith OK

Early history indeed...guess that was the all time low ! Did that take you long to find ? I do admire the skills of you computer-handy fellows...

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Post by dyrewolfe on Sun Jan 17, 2016 1:31 am


Wow - well done HH! thumbsup

Can't have been easy to find that.


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Post by guildfordbat on Sun Jan 17, 2016 1:34 am

Yes, brilliant research from Hammersmith.

Little more than an anorak observation at this stage but that was a brilliant leg side stop by Vilas off Viljoen. For all the talk about Bairstow in this Test, Vilas has done better behind the stumps from what I've seen. It's not just about how many the keeper takes but whether he takes all that come his way.

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Post by Hammersmith harrier on Sun Jan 17, 2016 1:35 am

alfie wrote:

Nice one , hammersmith OK

Early history indeed...guess that was the all time low !   Did that take you long to find ?  I do admire the skills of you computer-handy fellows...

Just looked through the lowest ever test scores and that was third on the list.

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Post by guildfordbat on Sun Jan 17, 2016 1:40 am

Hammersmith harrier wrote:
alfie wrote:

Nice one , hammersmith OK

Early history indeed...guess that was the all time low !   Did that take you long to find ?  I do admire the skills of you computer-handy fellows...

Just looked through the lowest ever test scores and that was third on the list.

Don't give away your secrets, Hammersmith - keep the magic! Wink

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Post by CaledonianCraig on Sun Jan 17, 2016 1:50 am

All pretty straight forward so far for England who are now 38 for 0 and need 36 more to win.
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Post by alfie on Sun Jan 17, 2016 1:53 am

guildfordbat wrote:Yes, brilliant research from Hammersmith.

Little more than an anorak observation at this stage but that was a brilliant leg side stop by Vilas off Viljoen. For all the talk about Bairstow in this Test, Vilas has done better behind the stumps from what I've seen. It's not just about how many the keeper takes but whether he takes all that come his way.

Vilas messed up a run out actually , guildford. Generally he's been OK though. Mind you , Bairstow has had a decent match , though he isn't exactly stylish...only the one error that I saw , for which he might owe Jimmy a beer Smile

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Post by GSC on Sun Jan 17, 2016 1:56 am

Finns feeling something. Might be sensible to rest him for what now looks like a dead rubber
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Post by alfie on Sun Jan 17, 2016 1:57 am

Hammersmith harrier wrote:
alfie wrote:

Nice one , hammersmith OK

Early history indeed...guess that was the all time low !   Did that take you long to find ?  I do admire the skills of you computer-handy fellows...

Just looked through the lowest ever test scores and that was third on the list.

Haha ... lateral thinking . And there was I thinking you'd come up with some clever algorithm or something ...

Presume we can't beat "1" as the lowest ever. Smile

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Post by alfie on Sun Jan 17, 2016 1:59 am

GSC wrote:Finns feeling something. Might be sensible to rest him for what now looks like a dead rubber

Wondered if he was iffy , seeing as he was sparingly used second innings. Agree might be opportune time to rest him for another go for Woakes - or perhaps a look at Footitt ?

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Post by guildfordbat on Sun Jan 17, 2016 2:02 am

alfie wrote:
guildfordbat wrote:Yes, brilliant research from Hammersmith.

Little more than an anorak observation at this stage but that was a brilliant leg side stop by Vilas off Viljoen. For all the talk about Bairstow in this Test, Vilas has done better behind the stumps from what I've seen. It's not just about how many the keeper takes but whether he takes all that come his way.

Vilas messed up a run out actually , guildford.  Generally he's been OK though.   Mind you , Bairstow has had a decent match , though he isn't exactly stylish...only the one error that I saw , for which he might owe Jimmy a beer Smile

Alfie - thought it was a bad miss by Bairstow when he dropped Morkel (?) off Jimmy. Got rather overlooked in the circus that followed with Jimmy being hauled off.

Anyway, not really the day to be grumbling about England.

Cook and Hales doing what's necessary even though the latter probably hasn't turned many of his doubters round.

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