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Post by LordDowlais on Mon 18 Jan 2016, 10:18 am

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I was at this game and I could not believe what I had just seen, fair play to Wayne Barnes, he just gave him a telling off, but that player has serious issues, how he stayed on the pitch throughout the game is beggars belief. On top of this push on Barnes he was giving late tackles out, putting his hands into AWJ's face after some off the ball argy bargy. Clermont took him off the field before he was sent off in the end, but I swear Viktor Kolelishvili could have taken Wayne Barnes's wife right there in front of him on Friday night and I doubt he would have sent him off.

Anyway, the authorities have taken over now;-

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/rugbyunion/european-rugby/12103067/Rugby-referee-Wayne-Barnes-shoved-by-player.html

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Post by LordDowlais on Wed 20 Jan 2016, 10:22 am

TightHEAD wrote:
LordDowlais wrote:No tantrum from me, go and take you anti Welsh agenda elsewhere, I want to talk about players respecting the refs and the game on here, I do not want to argue with you about Welsh and English or any other nation for that matter.

What's anti welsh about highlighting a real problem in the Welsh game at the lower levels, if you are talking about showing the game respect then that is showing the opposition and fans no respect whatsoever, not even respect for yourself.

Please stop trolling. OK

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Post by TightHEAD on Wed 20 Jan 2016, 10:22 am

No 7&1/2 wrote:
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No 7&1/2 wrote:Clear link in that comment to this discussion. Drugs have no place in here when you appear to be trying to score cheap digs.

In your opinion!  Rolling Eyes

To me there is clearly no link between a pumped up player making a poor call to push a ref out of his way in the heat of the moment and play acting asking for cards etc.

So you think performance enhancing drugs in the lower levels of the game aren't a problem. Interesting!

You seem to have trouble reading. Leave out the nationality bull.

But there is no link between play acting, milking it and a guy pushing a ref out the way, did you get any sleep last night or are you feeling tired and confused?

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Post by TightHEAD on Wed 20 Jan 2016, 10:23 am

LordDowlais wrote:
TightHEAD wrote:
LordDowlais wrote:No tantrum from me, go and take you anti Welsh agenda elsewhere, I want to talk about players respecting the refs and the game on here, I do not want to argue with you about Welsh and English or any other nation for that matter.

What's anti welsh about highlighting a real problem in the Welsh game at the lower levels, if you are talking about showing the game respect then that is showing the opposition and fans no respect whatsoever, not even respect for yourself.

Please stop trolling. OK

Again.

What's anti welsh about highlighting a real problem in the Welsh game at the lower levels?

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Post by LordDowlais on Wed 20 Jan 2016, 10:24 am

TightHEAD wrote:But there is no link between play acting, milking it and a guy pushing a ref out the way, did you get any sleep last night or are you feeling tired and confused?

Yes there is, it is all about the football like antics that are creeping into rugby and spoiling it, so please stop spoiling the debate.

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Post by TightHEAD on Wed 20 Jan 2016, 10:26 am

LordDowlais wrote:
TightHEAD wrote:But there is no link between play acting, milking it and a guy pushing a ref out the way, did you get any sleep last night or are you feeling tired and confused?

Yes there is, it is all about the football like antics that are creeping into rugby and spoiling it, so please stop spoiling the debate.

That was always going to happen the moment the game turned Pro and ££££££££s took over, nothing has changed.

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Post by LordDowlais on Wed 20 Jan 2016, 10:27 am

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What's anti welsh about highlighting a real problem in the Welsh game at the lower levels?

Because it has NOTHING to do with this topic. If you want to talk about that go and start another thread.

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Post by No 7&1/2 on Wed 20 Jan 2016, 10:28 am

Well at least the wum has put me on LDs side of an argument for a change! Hug

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Post by TightHEAD on Wed 20 Jan 2016, 10:30 am

LordDowlais wrote:
TightHEAD wrote:
What's anti welsh about highlighting a real problem in the Welsh game at the lower levels?

Because it has NOTHING to do with this topic. If you want to talk about that go and start another thread.

Nore has play acting or milking it for cards!

The guy made a mistake, the Ref handled it well seeing as there was a communication problem that should have been the end of it, but 14 weeks is pathetic.

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Post by Scottrf on Wed 20 Jan 2016, 10:31 am

LordDowlais wrote:
TightHEAD wrote:But there is no link between play acting, milking it and a guy pushing a ref out the way, did you get any sleep last night or are you feeling tired and confused?

Yes there is, it is all about the football like antics that are creeping into rugby and spoiling it, so please stop spoiling the debate.
Are grabbing balls in a scrum or tackling the eye area football antics? Or does respect for the officials have nothing to do with the vast majority of rugby incidents? The football comparisons get tiresome.

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Post by ScarletSpiderman on Wed 20 Jan 2016, 10:32 am

http://www.606v2.com/t61724-interesting-welsh-rugby-does-not-have-its-own-drugs-problem-the-issue-lies-in-the-entire-country-s-steroid-addiction

Here is the thread about the Steroid issues in Wales as a country as whole, and not just as a rugby issue. Saves having to go down that route here.

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Post by LordDowlais on Wed 20 Jan 2016, 10:34 am

No 7&1/2 wrote:Well at least the wum has put me on LDs side of an argument for a change! Hug

Yeah well there is always that. Laugh

Anyway, back on topic, as I highlighted earlier with the Sexton occurrence before the thread was spoiled, we need to stamp out these petulant acts before they become the norm in our game.

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Post by ScarletSpiderman on Wed 20 Jan 2016, 10:34 am

Scottrf wrote:
LordDowlais wrote:
TightHEAD wrote:But there is no link between play acting, milking it and a guy pushing a ref out the way, did you get any sleep last night or are you feeling tired and confused?

Yes there is, it is all about the football like antics that are creeping into rugby and spoiling it, so please stop spoiling the debate.
Are grabbing balls in a scrum or tackling the eye area football antics? Or does respect for the officials have nothing to do with the vast majority of rugby incidents? The football comparisons get tiresome.

Testicle grabs have famously happened in football (Mr Jones anyone), as have stamps on the testicles too (again Mr Jones). Whistle

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Post by Scottrf on Wed 20 Jan 2016, 10:35 am

ScarletSpiderman wrote:Testicle grabs have famously happened in football (Mr Jones anyone), as have stamps on the testicles too (again Mr Jones).  Whistle
That doesn't make them football incidents. They are isolated incidents. Streakers have happened in football, that's not a football incident.

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Post by TightHEAD on Wed 20 Jan 2016, 10:38 am

LordDowlais wrote:
No 7&1/2 wrote:Well at least the wum has put me on LDs side of an argument for a change! Hug

Yeah well there is always that. Laugh

Anyway, back on topic, as I highlighted earlier with the Sexton occurrence before the thread was spoiled, we need to stamp out these petulant acts before they become the norm in our game.

They have always been in the game, only difference is now people are more precious about it as they are easily offended in these PC times.

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Post by ScarletSpiderman on Wed 20 Jan 2016, 10:54 am

Scottrf wrote:
ScarletSpiderman wrote:Testicle grabs have famously happened in football (Mr Jones anyone), as have stamps on the testicles too (again Mr Jones).  Whistle
That doesn't make them football incidents. They are isolated incidents. Streakers have happened in football, that's not a football incident.

True. I doubt the nut grab is really likely to catch on in cricket or tennis though.

Oh, and I have seen streaker at lawn bowls, probably the funniest sporting moment I have seen.

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Post by ScarletSpiderman on Wed 20 Jan 2016, 11:01 am

Ok this is an old news clipping (May 2013), and things have changed however

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/2404036/Montgomery-faces-ban.html wrote:Referee Nigel Owens confirmed the former Stormers Super 12 star was sent off for pushing a match official as the Newport players stood in the in-goal area following the concession of a try.

The International Rugby Board's regulations state that the suspension for 'physical abuse of a match official' ranges between two years and life, with a five-year ban the norm.

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Post by TightHEAD on Thu 21 Jan 2016, 9:38 am

You know how to kill a debate Scarlet! Very Happy

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Post by ScarletSpiderman on Thu 21 Jan 2016, 10:22 am

TightHEAD wrote:You know how to kill a debate Scarlet!  Very Happy

Yeah it happens quite often at work, I walk into a room and everyone stops talking.

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Post by TightHEAD on Thu 21 Jan 2016, 11:03 am

ScarletSpiderman wrote:
TightHEAD wrote:You know how to kill a debate Scarlet!  Very Happy

Yeah it happens quite often at work, I walk into a room and everyone stops talking.

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Post by TJ on Fri 22 Jan 2016, 8:38 am

LordDowlais wrote:
TightHEAD wrote:
LordDowlais wrote:No tantrum from me, go and take you anti Welsh agenda elsewhere, I want to talk about players respecting the refs and the game on here, I do not want to argue with you about Welsh and English or any other nation for that matter.

What's anti welsh about highlighting a real problem in the Welsh game at the lower levels, if you are talking about showing the game respect then that is showing the opposition and fans no respect whatsoever, not even respect for yourself.

Please stop trolling. OK

Stop with this "antiwelsh agenda" paranoid nonsense

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Post by No 7&1/2 on Fri 22 Jan 2016, 8:56 am

In this case he definitely has a point.

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Post by TightHEAD on Fri 22 Jan 2016, 12:32 pm

No 7&1/2 wrote:In this case he definitely has a point.

In your dull opinion!


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Post by TightHEAD on Fri 29 Jan 2016, 9:44 am

Just come across this Lordowlais.

In November 2015, UKAD figures revealed Welsh rugby players from both league and union codes made up 34 per cent of all sportsmen and women serving drugs bans in the United Kingdom.

Shocking its so high.

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Post by LordDowlais on Fri 29 Jan 2016, 10:11 am

TightHEAD wrote:Just come across this Lordowlais.

In November 2015, UKAD figures revealed Welsh rugby players from both league and union codes made up 34 per cent of all sportsmen and women serving drugs bans in the United Kingdom.

Shocking its so high.


It's a social problem in Wales, not just a rugby one.

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Post by TightHEAD on Fri 29 Jan 2016, 10:41 am

But Wales is rugby.

Maybe the pressures to get big to play warrenball in amateur teams is the cause of the problem.

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