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Post by LondonTiger on Fri 22 Jan 2016, 11:57 am

Match Officials

Referee George Clancy (Ireland)
Touch Judge 1 Peter Fitzgibbon (Ireland)
Touch Judge 2 Mark Patton (Ireland)
TMO Marshall Kilgore (Ireland)
Citing Commissioner Peter Ferguson (Ireland)


Head to Head

9 Played 9
4 Wins 5
4 Losses 4
0 Draws 0
14 Tries 18
10 Conversions 10
37 Penalties 28
6 Drop Goals 1
219 Points 197


Recent Form

Stade

16/1/16 Munster 26 - 13 SF Paris
9/1/16 SF Paris 27 - 7 Munster
19/12/15 SF Paris 40 - 14 Treviso


Leicester
16/1/16 Tigers 47 - 7 Treviso
20/12/15 Tigers 17 - 6 Munster
12/12/15 Munster 19 - 31 Tigers



Team Lineups

Stade:
15. Hugo Bonneval; 14. Jérémy Sinzelle, 13. Waisea Vuidarvuwalu, 12. Jonathan Danty, 11. Djibril Camara; 10. Jules Plisson, 9. Julien Dupuy; 1. Zak Taulafo, 2. Laurent Sempéré, 3. Rabah Slimani, 4. Hugh Pyle, 5. Paul Gabrillagues, 6. Jonathan Ross, 7. Raphael Lakafia, 8. Sergio Parisse
16. Laurent Panis, 17. Emmanuel Felsina, 18. Paul Alo Emile, 19. Pascal Papé, 20. Antoine Burban, 21. Julien Tomas, 22. Morné Steyn, 23. Geoffrey Doumayrou

Leicester
15. Matthew Tait; 14. Adam Thompstone, 13. Manu Tuilagi, 12. Matt Smith, 11. Telusa Veainu; 10. Freddie Burns, 9. Ben Youngs; 1. Marcos Ayerza, 2. Tom Youngs, 3. Dan Cole, 4. Dom Barrow, 5. Graham Kitchener, 6. Michael Fitzgerald, 7. Tom Croft, 8. Lachlan McCaffrey
16. Harry Thacker, 17. Logovii Mulipola, 18. Fraser Balmain, 19. Sebastian De Chaves, 20. Laurence Pearce, 21. Sam Harrison, 22. Thomas Bell, 23. Peter Betham


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Re: Stade Francais vs Leicester; Sunday 24th Jan - 14:00 (GMT)

Post by LondonTiger on Fri 22 Jan 2016, 12:16 pm

That may be the most EQPs we have fielded this season 12 in the starting 15 with another 6 on the bench. half of them through our academy too.

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Re: Stade Francais vs Leicester; Sunday 24th Jan - 14:00 (GMT)

Post by Welly on Fri 22 Jan 2016, 12:24 pm

Nice squad very good rotation despite having multiple players out injured.

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Re: Stade Francais vs Leicester; Sunday 24th Jan - 14:00 (GMT)

Post by Notch on Fri 22 Jan 2016, 12:32 pm

Allez les Tigres

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Re: Stade Francais vs Leicester; Sunday 24th Jan - 14:00 (GMT)

Post by formerly known as Sam on Fri 22 Jan 2016, 1:00 pm

Well this should be quite a game. Nice to see a good number of EQs in the squad. Looking forward to seeing the Smith/Manu midfield.

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Re: Stade Francais vs Leicester; Sunday 24th Jan - 14:00 (GMT)

Post by yappysnap on Sat 23 Jan 2016, 8:05 am

Stade:
6. Jonathan Ross

Bit late to change career surely? I never thought he had the mad dog aggression for 6 either.

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Re: Stade Francais vs Leicester; Sunday 24th Jan - 14:00 (GMT)

Post by formerly known as Sam on Sun 24 Jan 2016, 1:03 pm

Ugh why is Ugo Monye commentating? It's like rugby paint by numbers.

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Re: Stade Francais vs Leicester; Sunday 24th Jan - 14:00 (GMT)

Post by formerly known as Sam on Sun 24 Jan 2016, 1:17 pm

Oh and an Irish referee. Sigh.

Tigers starting brightly but Stade looking ominous when they have the ball.

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Re: Stade Francais vs Leicester; Sunday 24th Jan - 14:00 (GMT)

Post by nathan on Sun 24 Jan 2016, 1:23 pm

Hmmm, neck role on croft

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Re: Stade Francais vs Leicester; Sunday 24th Jan - 14:00 (GMT)

Post by formerly known as Sam on Sun 24 Jan 2016, 1:27 pm

Knee to Tom Youngs ref notes is foul play but it's only a penalty?

They've found us with numbers over twice on the right. Need to be smarter. We've not looked after the ball well either. One piece of real skill from Smith to put us on the scoreboard.

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Re: Stade Francais vs Leicester; Sunday 24th Jan - 14:00 (GMT)

Post by nathan on Sun 24 Jan 2016, 1:31 pm

Awful by thompstone there

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Re: Stade Francais vs Leicester; Sunday 24th Jan - 14:00 (GMT)

Post by formerly known as Sam on Sun 24 Jan 2016, 1:32 pm

Need to sort our defence out. Ref needs to sort himself out. Deliberate knock on missed and then no penalty as a retreating scrum collapses.

Stade very ruthless in our 22.

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Re: Stade Francais vs Leicester; Sunday 24th Jan - 14:00 (GMT)

Post by formerly known as Sam on Sun 24 Jan 2016, 1:41 pm

Why stop play for a marginal high tackle call that happened three foot away from the assistant? It didn't effect possession or injure a player. Not what the video ref is for. Sums up the ref so far.

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Re: Stade Francais vs Leicester; Sunday 24th Jan - 14:00 (GMT)

Post by Pot Hale on Sun 24 Jan 2016, 1:48 pm

Leicester look very disinterested. Little pace or agressive cover defence.

Stade just need to knock in the fourth try and the two teams can amble round the pitch for the rest of the match.

Dismal last round match to go along with Munster v Treviso.

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Re: Stade Francais vs Leicester; Sunday 24th Jan - 14:00 (GMT)

Post by eirebilly on Sun 24 Jan 2016, 1:52 pm

I was kind of hoping that Leicester would sign off with a good away win. Agree with Pot, dismal last round.

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Re: Stade Francais vs Leicester; Sunday 24th Jan - 14:00 (GMT)

Post by formerly known as Sam on Sun 24 Jan 2016, 1:54 pm

If Racing had won yesterday it might be different as Tigers would need to win. As the game has gone on it looks more like the Tigers players are trying to avoid injury.

Burns isn't controlling the game. We're playing too much and we've left 6 points out there. A little more pragmatic and pressuring Stade's lineout in their half would be more productive though we'd need to stop them in the gain line first. Plisson and Danty making French midfield selections easy.

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Re: Stade Francais vs Leicester; Sunday 24th Jan - 14:00 (GMT)

Post by Pot Hale on Sun 24 Jan 2016, 2:00 pm

eirebilly wrote:I was kind of hoping that Leicester would sign off with a good away win. Agree with Pot, dismal last round.

Craig Doyle asks Dallaglio at half time if going for top seed is enough and he replies it is but they're playing against the French champions so.... and gives a Gallic shrug.

It's really entertaining stuff says Doyle valiantly

Ho hum.


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Re: Stade Francais vs Leicester; Sunday 24th Jan - 14:00 (GMT)

Post by nathan on Sun 24 Jan 2016, 2:12 pm

It's all been a bit meh really, I suppose e have nothing to play for.

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Re: Stade Francais vs Leicester; Sunday 24th Jan - 14:00 (GMT)

Post by nathan on Sun 24 Jan 2016, 2:13 pm

This ref is awful at the breakdown

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Re: Stade Francais vs Leicester; Sunday 24th Jan - 14:00 (GMT)

Post by formerly known as Sam on Sun 24 Jan 2016, 2:14 pm

It's so difficult to get flow in a game when the ref switches between pinging everything and nothing.

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Re: Stade Francais vs Leicester; Sunday 24th Jan - 14:00 (GMT)

Post by formerly known as Sam on Sun 24 Jan 2016, 2:18 pm

This ref is an embarrassment. That's not a strike. Tom Youngs was kneed in a ruck which the ref pinged as foul play in the first half and no card. Youngs has some pushing and shoving on a player that refuses to roll away despite off feet and it's a yellow. Just no consistency. Shambolic.

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Re: Stade Francais vs Leicester; Sunday 24th Jan - 14:00 (GMT)

Post by Pot Hale on Sun 24 Jan 2016, 2:19 pm

BT commentator - "I think that Chris Aston decision just on the record was absolutely appalling."

Really?

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Re: Stade Francais vs Leicester; Sunday 24th Jan - 14:00 (GMT)

Post by Exiledinborders on Sun 24 Jan 2016, 2:21 pm

formerly known as Sam wrote:This ref is an embarrassment. That's not a strike. Tom Youngs was kneed in a ruck which the ref pinged as foul play in the first half and no card. Youngs has some pushing and shoving on a player that refuses to roll away despite off feet and it's a yellow. Just no consistency. Shambolic.
He is always an embarrassment. The worst ref on the international circuit by a large margin.

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Re: Stade Francais vs Leicester; Sunday 24th Jan - 14:00 (GMT)

Post by Pot Hale on Sun 24 Jan 2016, 2:22 pm

formerly known as Sam wrote:This ref is an embarrassment. That's not a strike. Tom Youngs was kneed in a ruck which the ref pinged as foul play in the first half and no card. Youngs has some pushing and shoving on a player that refuses to roll away despite off feet and it's a yellow. Just no consistency. Shambolic.

Whereas in reality he dropped into the player with his forearm and then tries to punch him in the face. Stupid and not necessary since the ball was available.

Anyway, predictably, Stade go over for their fourth and that's job done.

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Re: Stade Francais vs Leicester; Sunday 24th Jan - 14:00 (GMT)

Post by formerly known as Sam on Sun 24 Jan 2016, 2:23 pm

Pot Hale wrote:BT commentator - "I think that Chris Aston decision just on the record was absolutely appalling."

Really?

I refer to my earlier comment about Ugo Monye and commentating.

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Re: Stade Francais vs Leicester; Sunday 24th Jan - 14:00 (GMT)

Post by whocares on Sun 24 Jan 2016, 2:24 pm

Exiledinborders wrote:
formerly known as Sam wrote:This ref is an embarrassment. That's not a strike. Tom Youngs was kneed in a ruck which the ref pinged as foul play in the first half and no card. Youngs has some pushing and shoving on a player that refuses to roll away despite off feet and it's a yellow. Just no consistency. Shambolic.
He is always an embarrassment. The worst ref on the international circuit by a large margin.

Yep am amazed by his consistency in being mediocre week after week. Also generally a bit of a homer so nothing new today.

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Re: Stade Francais vs Leicester; Sunday 24th Jan - 14:00 (GMT)

Post by Pot Hale on Sun 24 Jan 2016, 2:25 pm

formerly known as Sam wrote:
Pot Hale wrote:BT commentator - "I think that Chris Aston decision just on the record was absolutely appalling."

Really?

I refer to my earlier comment about Ugo Monye and commentating.

Lol. I must have missed that. He's got foot in mouth disease, has he?

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Re: Stade Francais vs Leicester; Sunday 24th Jan - 14:00 (GMT)

Post by Pot Hale on Sun 24 Jan 2016, 2:26 pm

Oh and Ulster are now out of things.

19 points is now the requirement.

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Post by Exiledinborders on Sun 24 Jan 2016, 2:27 pm

Pot Hale wrote:BT commentator - "I think that Chris Aston decision just on the record was absolutely appalling."

Really?
Yes. Appalling.

Swinson deliberately punches in the face a player who is held in the maul and cannot defend himself. Result a one week ban. Ashton carelessly hit a player in the face not in the eyes as the player has admitted. Result a long ban.

A fair outcome would be to reverse the two bans.

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Re: Stade Francais vs Leicester; Sunday 24th Jan - 14:00 (GMT)

Post by formerly known as Sam on Sun 24 Jan 2016, 2:28 pm

To be fair he normally states the obvious repeatedly.

Youngs needs to be putting those box kicks into touch. Too many aren't making it. We've not seen those mistakes this season.

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Re: Stade Francais vs Leicester; Sunday 24th Jan - 14:00 (GMT)

Post by Pot Hale on Sun 24 Jan 2016, 2:29 pm

Double movement.

And lost control.

Bloody hell. TMO and ref completely wrong on that one.

Homer ref???

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Re: Stade Francais vs Leicester; Sunday 24th Jan - 14:00 (GMT)

Post by Pot Hale on Sun 24 Jan 2016, 2:34 pm

Exiledinborders wrote:
Pot Hale wrote:BT commentator - "I think that Chris Aston decision just on the record was absolutely appalling."

Really?
Yes. Appalling.

Swinson deliberately punches in the face a player who is held in the maul and cannot defend himself. Result a one week ban. Ashton carelessly hit a player in the face not in the eyes as the player has admitted. Result a long ban.

A fair outcome would be to reverse the two bans.

Except that's not what Ashton did. He moved his arm up deliberately to take player around the head and drags his hand across his face/eye area whilst neck rolling him down onto the ground. Stupid and reckless. And completely unecessary to have even attempted in the first place.


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Re: Stade Francais vs Leicester; Sunday 24th Jan - 14:00 (GMT)

Post by nathan on Sun 24 Jan 2016, 2:34 pm

Pot Hale wrote:Double movement.

And lost control.

Bloody hell.  TMO and ref completely wrong on that one.

Homer ref???

Are you a clueless Clancy fan boy or something? Where's your Pom poms? Wink

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Re: Stade Francais vs Leicester; Sunday 24th Jan - 14:00 (GMT)

Post by Exiledinborders on Sun 24 Jan 2016, 2:35 pm

Pot Hale wrote:Double movement.

And lost control.

Bloody hell.  TMO and ref completely wrong on that one.

Homer ref???
Considering that TMO and ref disagreed that cannot both be wrong.

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Re: Stade Francais vs Leicester; Sunday 24th Jan - 14:00 (GMT)

Post by Pot Hale on Sun 24 Jan 2016, 2:35 pm

As a by the way, I suspect that citing officer may look closely at actions of some of the French players in this match.

Leicester players have now indicated twice that their eyes were attacked/gouged. Cole one player. And Slimani one of the accused.

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Post by nathan on Sun 24 Jan 2016, 2:36 pm

Pot Hale wrote:As a by the way, I suspect that citing officer may look closely at actions of some of the French players in this match.

Leicester players have now indicated twice that their eyes were attacked/gouged.  Cole one player. And Slimani one of the accused.
Did the ref go the TMO at all?

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Re: Stade Francais vs Leicester; Sunday 24th Jan - 14:00 (GMT)

Post by Pot Hale on Sun 24 Jan 2016, 2:38 pm

Exiledinborders wrote:
Pot Hale wrote:Double movement.

And lost control.

Bloody hell.  TMO and ref completely wrong on that one.

Homer ref???
Considering that TMO and ref disagreed that cannot both be wrong.

Well TMO thought it was double movement. Clancy didn't.

And looked like Leicester player lost control of the ball.

Anyway, let's see if it makes any difference to result and outcome.

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Re: Stade Francais vs Leicester; Sunday 24th Jan - 14:00 (GMT)

Post by Pot Hale on Sun 24 Jan 2016, 2:41 pm

nathan wrote:
Pot Hale wrote:As a by the way, I suspect that citing officer may look closely at actions of some of the French players in this match.

Leicester players have now indicated twice that their eyes were attacked/gouged.  Cole one player. And Slimani one of the accused.
Did the ref go the TMO at all?

Well the first was on the Slimani try so there were replays. But no specific investigation.

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Re: Stade Francais vs Leicester; Sunday 24th Jan - 14:00 (GMT)

Post by formerly known as Sam on Sun 24 Jan 2016, 2:41 pm

TMO sod off. It's a marginal call and you've not got a camera in line.

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Re: Stade Francais vs Leicester; Sunday 24th Jan - 14:00 (GMT)

Post by Pot Hale on Sun 24 Jan 2016, 2:44 pm

Stade have fallen asleep at the wheel again.

Lucky that officials have picked up a forward pass.

Damn. That might have made the last ten minutes interesting.

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Post by formerly known as Sam on Sun 24 Jan 2016, 2:45 pm

nathan wrote:
Pot Hale wrote:As a by the way, I suspect that citing officer may look closely at actions of some of the French players in this match.

Leicester players have now indicated twice that their eyes were attacked/gouged.  Cole one player. And Slimani one of the accused.
Did the ref go the TMO at all?

This TMO is only involved when he wants to give a decision against Tigers.

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Re: Stade Francais vs Leicester; Sunday 24th Jan - 14:00 (GMT)

Post by No9 on Sun 24 Jan 2016, 2:48 pm

formerly known as Sam wrote:TMO sod off. It's a marginal call and you've not got a camera in line.

Correct call.. it was forward.. TMO made correct call earlier too.. The grounding of the ball was way before the line, ball lost and no momentum move (hence double movement).. Should not have been a try.

Wish the Saints forward pass yesterday against the Scarlets had been picked up for their try as well, as they shouldn't have had the BP. Big call that if Saints qualify.

Hope Ospreys win with BP, Clermont win with BP and Stade maintain to win... I think that will correct the unjust calls and push Saints out...

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Re: Stade Francais vs Leicester; Sunday 24th Jan - 14:00 (GMT)

Post by nathan on Sun 24 Jan 2016, 2:49 pm

Bugger off ugo, such a crap commentator

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Re: Stade Francais vs Leicester; Sunday 24th Jan - 14:00 (GMT)

Post by Pot Hale on Sun 24 Jan 2016, 2:54 pm

And there ends that nail-biter.

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Post by nathan on Sun 24 Jan 2016, 2:55 pm

No9 wrote:
formerly known as Sam wrote:TMO sod off. It's a marginal call and you've not got a camera in line.

Correct call.. it was forward.. TMO made correct call earlier too.. The grounding of the ball was way before the line, ball lost and no momentum move (hence double movement).. Should not have been a try.

Wish the Saints forward pass yesterday against the Scarlets had been picked up for their try as well, as they shouldn't have had the BP. Big call that if Saints qualify.

Hope Ospreys win with BP, Clermont win with BP and Stade maintain to win... I think that will correct the unjust calls and push Saints out...

I've seen those given plenty of times though

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Re: Stade Francais vs Leicester; Sunday 24th Jan - 14:00 (GMT)

Post by WELL-PAST-IT on Sun 24 Jan 2016, 2:55 pm

nathan wrote:Bugger off No.9, such a crap commentator post

corrected

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Re: Stade Francais vs Leicester; Sunday 24th Jan - 14:00 (GMT)

Post by formerly known as Sam on Sun 24 Jan 2016, 2:56 pm

No9 wrote:
formerly known as Sam wrote:TMO sod off. It's a marginal call and you've not got a camera in line.

Correct call.. it was forward.. TMO made correct call earlier too.. The grounding of the ball was way before the line, ball lost and no momentum move (hence double movement).. Should not have been a try.

Wish the Saints forward pass yesterday against the Scarlets had been picked up for their try as well, as they shouldn't have had the BP. Big call that if Saints qualify.

Hope Ospreys win with BP, Clermont win with BP and Stade maintain to win... I think that will correct the unjust calls and push Saints out...

The Harrison pass was to a man clearly in line so any forward motion needed to be viewed by a video in line with the pass. The footage was always slightly behind Harrison so the pass always looked like it was going forward.

Barrow is allowed to place the ball. He wasn't held and he was sliding for the line. Just because it took him a while to place it doesn't matter as no one is competing for the ball. At no point does he stop trying to reach for the line and go again.

Bell's interception pass at the end was criminal. He didn't look and should he kicking himself for that. Really hope Owen Williams is back soon so we're not relying on him for big games. Williams would have also allowed us to play more pragmatically rather than keeping the ball live for so long and playing to Stade's strength.

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Re: Stade Francais vs Leicester; Sunday 24th Jan - 14:00 (GMT)

Post by Pot Hale on Sun 24 Jan 2016, 3:00 pm

I see that BT have picked up on the 'gouging' incident with Cole.

BT panel says it looks accidental.

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Re: Stade Francais vs Leicester; Sunday 24th Jan - 14:00 (GMT)

Post by WELL-PAST-IT on Sun 24 Jan 2016, 3:03 pm

Pot Hale wrote:I see that BT have picked up on the 'gouging' incident with Cole.

BT panel says it looks accidental.  

Makes no difference, eye contact is not allowed, should have thought about it before he made facial contact

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Re: Stade Francais vs Leicester; Sunday 24th Jan - 14:00 (GMT)

Post by formerly known as Sam on Sun 24 Jan 2016, 3:03 pm

I'd like to see it again before I pass comment. Doesn't look good but you have to see movement of hand and fingers before you can say whether it's intent or accidental. Given we all saw Cole holding his eye why didn't the TMO refer this?

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