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Post by The_Enigma on Thu Dec 17 2015, 22:44

First topic message reminder :

I totally understand that the majority of you may dislike or have never seen any form of Independent Wrestling so turn a blind eye to it but I truly believe this is such a powerful promo hyping something that we all share here...

This is Mike Quackenbush, founder of Chikara Pro and I quite frankly consider him to be one of the best storytellers in the business. Enjoy.


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Post by Hero on Mon Oct 31 2016, 09:46

Whilst on paper an AJ v HBK match sounds awesome I'm not sure its a match that makes sense to bring AJ out of retirement for?

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Post by Reaper on Mon Oct 31 2016, 09:56

They've got to keep AJ away from Cena until Mania, and Smackdown doesn't have a huge amount of Main Event depth. If he carries on with the 'face that runs the place' schtick you could see him calling himself an 'icon', maybe even Mr. Wrestlemania and that would set the feud up.

I'd read that plans were to do Cena v Taker at Mania, but apparently it's AJ v Cena and AJ losing.

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Post by dyrewolfe on Mon Oct 31 2016, 20:39

Who were those masked men?

For anyone who is interested, the trio of masked and suited men who interrupted an Impact show the other week, have their identities revealed:

Apparently they are a new stable, called the Death Count Council.


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Post by Samo on Tue Nov 01 2016, 08:14

Only TNA would bring a faction in related to Death when they themselves are in their dying days.

Sums the whole thing up perfectly.

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Post by Dolphin Ziggler on Tue Nov 01 2016, 09:24

I don't like the idea of retirement matches being mere schtick. And to come back for a Rumble match? Sure he could go Mania if he does a match.

Plus it's just more laziness. Book someone properly to face AJ and let them have a real match.

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Post by Reaper on Tue Nov 01 2016, 09:31

Would he go to 'Mania, though?

Taker will almost certainly be at Mania, which would kind of mock the whole 'Streak v Career' thing.

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Post by Kay Fabe on Tue Nov 01 2016, 17:02

Dolphin Ziggler wrote:I don't like the idea of retirement matches being mere schtick. And to come back for a Rumble match? Sure he could go Mania if he does a match.

Plus it's just more laziness. Book someone properly to face AJ and let them have a real match.

That'a pro Wrestling for you though, apart from Micheals you'll be hard pushed to find anyone who has retired on their own terms and not came back, some might argue Austin but while he appears to be healthy now i don't really think we can say he went out on his own terms, he practically had to drag himself out for that last match, he'd be dead by now if he kept going IMO

It's like everything else, it's mainly used as an angle, the first one I ever remember was Macho King at WM7 and that was done from the off with the intention of him coming back to the ring for next years Mania, I've never expected anything else and don't view it as any differently to any other angle

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Post by Dolphin Ziggler on Tue Nov 01 2016, 19:56

I know, it is what it is, but there should be a real sanctity in it. Although Foley gave it what, a month? And I ate that up

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Post by Kay Fabe on Wed Nov 02 2016, 00:29

I just don't get why some people feel there should be an integrity to a retirement angle when every other angle is taken for what it is

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Post by Dolphin Ziggler on Wed Nov 09 2016, 21:08

New Head of the WWE Performance Center is Shawn Michaels

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Post by marty2086 on Thu Nov 10 2016, 11:09

Dolphin Ziggler wrote:New Head of the WWE Performance Center is Shawn Michaels

Is he though?

Kevin Nash said no one else knows and seems like a slap in the face to Matt Bloom

Wasn't he only meant to be taking over from Adam Pearce?

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Post by The_Enigma on Thu Nov 10 2016, 11:14

Billy Gunn is expected to make his long-awaited debut in NJPW... He's expected to tag with Yoshi Tastu under the name of 'Hunter Club' in the 2016 World Tag League. So yeah, that's happening.

ACH has finished up with ROH - He's expected to sign with EVOLVE and I wouldn't be surprised to see him amongst the cruiserweights in WWE early next year.


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Post by Dolphin Ziggler on Thu Nov 10 2016, 12:26

Who was awaiting it for a long time? Can't see any huge NJPW fans desperate for Billy Gunn!

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Post by The_Enigma on Thu Nov 10 2016, 12:42

Think you mistaken the tone there Dolph! That's exactly the point! Who would want to see him there now!? Plus, it's quite a funny/random pairing considering how highly regarded Yoshi Tatsu is in these parts...

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Post by Dolphin Ziggler on Thu Nov 10 2016, 15:46

It's interesting, I can't pretend! I'm not up on NJPW at all but it seems uncharacteristic of them.

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Post by Dr Gregory House MD on Fri Nov 11 2016, 16:58

The world tag league has always been a bit of a joke, it's basically a prolonged way to name a No1 contender for the tag titles and kill time before the Dome, as the big stars go out of there way to try and avoid injury

As for why Billy Gunn, Yoshi Tatsu is doing a HHH tribute/parody act as the Bullet Club Hunter (get it?), he's also not been the same since his broken neck and is languishing at the bottom of the card, so they've stuck him with Gunn to pop whoever gets the reference and eat some pin falls during the tour

Whole were on the subject of ex WWE guys it's worth noting that as well as Gunn, the former CJ Parker will be teaming with Hiroshi Tanahashi as his annually designated job guy and the former Camacho is one half of the tag champions going into the tournament

I love New Japan but there tag division is the Frak pits

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Post by NickisBHAFC on Fri Nov 11 2016, 17:11

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Post by Samo on Fri Nov 11 2016, 21:51

HHH has confirmed that HBK is NOT the new head of the performance centre, and its still Matt Bloom

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Post by Dolphin Ziggler on Fri Nov 11 2016, 21:57

Haha brilliant. The Kliq still being knobs whatever happens.

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Post by Fernando on Sat Nov 12 2016, 12:10

Survivor Series Spoiler:
Kalisto is expected to win the Cruiserweight title and bring the division to Smackdown so they can tape 205live all on one day.

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Post by Marky on Sat Nov 12 2016, 13:06

Fernando wrote:
Survivor Series Spoiler:
Kalisto is expected to win the Cruiserweight title and bring the division to Smackdown so they can tape 205live all on one day.

Spoiler:
Makes a lot of sense. Also more likely to be showcased properly on Smackdown.

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Post by NickisBHAFC on Sun Nov 13 2016, 17:00

That will make Raw even worse.

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Post by Dolphin Ziggler on Sun Nov 13 2016, 20:40

[spoiler="SS Spoiler"]To be fair, it wasnt showcased on Raw so probably wont make a difference to Raw at all[

Would make me think that Zayn is stealing the IC belt though/spoiler]

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Post by Kay Fabe on Mon Nov 14 2016, 14:01

NickisBHAFC wrote:That will make Raw even worse.

I disagree, it's hardly been a feature on RAW and it often feels put of place when lumped in between seemingly more important segments

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Post by Fernando on Mon Nov 14 2016, 21:02

Tom Phillips has joined the SD Commentary team was announced Last week Laugh forgot about it Laugh

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Post by Dolphin Ziggler on Mon Nov 14 2016, 21:09

CHIKARA end relationship with Joey Styles after his comments on EVOLVE. ICYMI, he made a joke about how Trump would be so enamoured by how one of the female performers looked that he would have grabbed her by the...then didnt say the last word. Hes apologised unreservedly for an off the cuff joke, and asked Gabe Sapolsky at EVOLVE to fire him, which he did.

Think CHIKARA doing it is a p*ssy move. It was a bit tasteless, but satirical rather than misogynistic, and seems a really overly defensive response.

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Post by Dolphin Ziggler on Mon Nov 14 2016, 21:10

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Post by Samo on Tue Nov 15 2016, 16:19

Vader tweeted out earlier today that he has spoken to two heart doctors and both have told him he has congestive heart failure and that his heart is almost completely worn out, he has less than 2 years to live.

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Post by Marky on Tue Nov 15 2016, 18:24

Samo wrote:Vader tweeted out earlier today that he has spoken to two heart doctors and both have told him he has congestive heart failure and that his heart is almost completely worn out, he has less than 2 years to live.

Sad to hear. I did read Mick Foley is pushing for him to be inducted into the Hall of Fame (while he's still alive)

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Post by Dolphin Ziggler on Thu Nov 17 2016, 20:30

Having jumped the gun before:

According to Meltzer, Michaels will work with the guys who WWE are considering to call up to the main roster, and also he will evaluate if the people who are in the list of call ups are ready to go or need more time. Terry Taylor will give them the "finishing" touch to the guys who graduate from the advanced class and Michaels will get them "main roster ready", so management will not give up on them too quickly like they did in the past.
WWE is also considering hiring a "psychology coach" (someone who will teach them ring awareness, how and when to call audibles, etc), and even tho there are no names discussed yet, it's clear it will be a veteran wrestler.
Lastly, Matt Bloom and William Reagal will remain in their positions, and Norman Smiley will teach the guys how to execute the moves in the ring .
Source: this week's observer.

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Post by Samo on Thu Nov 17 2016, 20:35

If they need a psychology coach look no further than Regal. Guy knew how to tell a story in the ring. Jericho would be great in that role aswell when he eventually hangs up his boots.

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Post by RinoGattuso on Thu Nov 17 2016, 20:47

Get Raven in

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Post by Kay Fabe on Thu Nov 17 2016, 21:11

Jake the Snake was the master of rong psychology, Raven was an alter boy compared to him

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Post by Dolphin Ziggler on Thu Nov 17 2016, 21:54

The spelling in that thing I've copied annoys me.

There's many, many people. Flair and Austin are both still linked with the company, but neither seem likely. I'm surprised they haven't got the Dudleys involved more, and Bubba basically survived in TNA on that kind of stuff.

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Post by Kay Fabe on Mon Nov 28 2016, 16:46

Anyone seen The Big Show lately?

Lost a helluva lot of weight, under 400lbs for the first time in over 20 years


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Post by Samo on Mon Nov 28 2016, 18:54

He looks in great shape, better than when he returned in 08 and he looked great then. Must be really hard for him to keep in shape travelling, especially with his illness.

He gets a lot of Poopie, but if he does retire at Mania 33 I'll miss him.

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Post by NickisBHAFC on Mon Nov 28 2016, 18:57

Where has he been?

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Post by Dr Gregory House MD on Mon Nov 28 2016, 21:25

I've always had a soft spot for Show, hes so much more talented than Andre in all ways but he's never going to get the same recognition as a straight 20 years of being on TV makes you less special

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Post by Kay Fabe on Tue Nov 29 2016, 02:08

Dr Gregory House MD wrote:I've always had a soft spot for Show, hes so much more talented than Andre in all ways but he's never going to get the same recognition as a straight 20 years of being on TV makes you less special

Definitely, he's did everything Andre did and a whole lot more, the great thing about Andre though was how protected he was and how littlenwe actually saw him, outwith major angles he was rarely on TV.

20 years, multiple World Title reigns, WrestleMania main events, he can talk, he can work and at one stage he could fly, deserves respect, he's more than earned it.

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Post by Ché Guerrero on Fri Dec 02 2016, 15:50

A certain Adam Copeland will be in the 5th season of Vikings (this is probably old news but I only just saw)

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Post by Samo on Fri Dec 02 2016, 22:40

TMZ reporting that Jimmy Snuka has been diagnosed with terminal cancer and has been given 6 months to live.

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Post by Crimey on Sun Dec 04 2016, 01:35

Samo wrote:TMZ reporting that Jimmy Snuka has been diagnosed with terminal cancer and has been given 6 months to live.

He'll do anything to get out of that murder charge.

If he dies, will Tamina become Tamina Snuka again?

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Post by Guest on Mon Dec 05 2016, 08:10

Steve Corino has said "farewell" to ROH after having a match with Cody Rhodes in Philadelphia. Rumours are now he is negotiations with WWE to join the Performance Centre as a coach

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Post by Kay Fabe on Mon Dec 12 2016, 20:30

From LuchaBlog:

http://www.twitlonger.com/show/n_1spe7vg

Alberto & Paige were at the IWRG show tonight in Arena Naucalpan (just outside of Mexico City.) There's photos of them at the show, and they were probably just there to watch Alberto's brother wrestle in the main event.

They went backstage during the show. While they were backstage, a local luchador (enhancement talent) named Alan Xtreme (aka Rafy of the Ninja Turtles) was nearby. Something happened - this part isn't clear, but something like Paige shoved the guy and Alberto thought Alan touched him, or thought he touched Paige - and the two started punching each other backstage. The brawl spilled to a hallway that connects locker room to the fan entrance way, so many fans saw the fight going by the time it was broken up. It was not a worked fight, Alan's face is said to be messed up from Alberto. I have no idea what happened to Alberto or Paige.

IWRG and the people reporting on the show have avoided mentioning it, but between the fans and the other wrestlers trying to figure out what happened, it's being discussed over on Facebook.

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If she sees 2018 at this rate I'll be impressed.

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Post by Fernando on Mon Dec 12 2016, 23:58

@VivaDelRio
Just to clarify. If you inappropriately touch my fiancee in front of my face you have to prepare to learn a lesson #Respect


Fair play to Alberto Laugh no groping Paige Crying or Very sad

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Post by marty2086 on Tue Dec 13 2016, 00:52

Fernando wrote:@VivaDelRio
Just to clarify. If you inappropriately touch my fiancee in front of my face you have to prepare to learn a lesson #Respect


Fair play to Alberto Laugh no groping Paige Crying or Very sad

Seems hes having to defend her honour quite a bit recently

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Post by Marky on Tue Dec 13 2016, 06:31

Would it not be worth a couple of slaps from Alberto to get to grope Paige? Laugh

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Post by Dolphin Ziggler on Tue Dec 13 2016, 07:16

And seems most people don't believe what he thinks happened actually happened

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Post by Dolphin Ziggler on Fri Dec 30 2016, 06:36

Angle has apparently told bookers that he won't be working any more Indy dates other than a match with Del Rio and one with Cody. He is then off to WWE in April...

Another false dawn, most likely, but possible. Imagine the pop, Raw after Mania...

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Post by Marky on Fri Dec 30 2016, 06:40

Maybe even a Mania appearance?

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