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Post by Nematode on Mon 18 Apr 2016, 1:20 pm

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SCOTLAND'S SUMMER TESTS

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JAPAN SCOTLAND 
Sat 18 June 2016 
Venue: Toyota Stadium, Toyota City, Aichi
Coverage: Live on BBC
KO: 7.20pm local/11.20am GMT

Referee: Ben O'Keeffe (New Zealand)
Touch judges: [tbc]
Television match official: [tbc]

A. Head to Head

5 Played 5
0 Won 5
0 Drawn 0
5 Lost 0
55 Points 266 

B. Recent Form

23 September 2015
Scotland 45-10 Japan
Kingsholm Stadium, Gloucester

09 Nov 2013
Scotland 42 - 17 Japan
Murrayfield, Edinburgh

13 Nov 2004
Scotland 100 - 8 Japan
McDiarmid Park, Perth

12 Oct 2003
Scotland 32 - 11 Japan
Dairy Farmers Stadium, Townsville

05 Oct 1991
Scotland 47 - 9 Japan
Murrayfield, Edinburgh

C. Teams

JAPAN 
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SCOTLAND 
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JAPAN SCOTLAND 
Sat 25 June 2016 
Venue: Ajinomoto Stadium, Tokyo
Coverage: Live on BBC
KO: 7.20pm local/11.20am GMT

Referee: Marius Mitrea (Italy)
Touch judges: [tbc]
Television match official: [tbc]

A. Head to Head

[5 Played 5
0 Won 5
0 Drawn 0
5 Lost 0
55 Points 266]

B. Recent Form 

18 June 2016
Japan * - * Scotland 
Toyota Stadium, Toyota

23 September 2015 
Scotland 45-10 Japan
Kingsholm Stadium, Gloucester

09 Nov 2013
Scotland 42 - 17 Japan
Murrayfield, Edinburgh

13 Nov 2004
Scotland 100 - 8 Japan
McDiarmid Park, Perth

12 Oct 2003
Scotland 32 - 11 Japan
Dairy Farmers Stadium, Townsville

05 Oct 1991
Scotland 47 - 9 Japan
Murrayfield, Edinburgh

C. Teams

JAPAN 

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SCOTLAND 

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Scotland / Japan history:

2015: Scotland 45-10 Japan, Kingsholm Stadium, Gloucester (RWC 2015)
2013: Scotland 42-17 Japan, BT Murrayfield, Edinburgh
2010: Scotland XV 24-5 Japan Select, BT Murrayfield, Edinburgh (uncapped match)
2004: Scotland 100-8 Japan, McDiarmid Park, Perth
2003: Japan 11-32 Scotland, Dairy Farmers Stadium, Townsville (RWC 2003)
1991: Scotland 47-9 Japan, BT Murrayfield, Edinburgh (RWC 1991)
1989: Japan 28-24 Scotland XV, Prince Chichibu Memorial Stadium, Tokyo (uncapped match)
1986: Scotland XV 33-18 Japan, BT Murrayfield, Edinburgh (uncapped match)
1977: Japan 9-74 Scotland XV, Olympic Stadium, Tokyo (uncapped match)
1976: Scotland XV 34-9 Japan,  BT Murrayfield, Edinburgh (uncapped match)

Scotland Squad:
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Post by Hazel Sapling on Thu 23 Jun 2016, 9:53 am

Probably the right way round with Laidlaw coming off the bench in the last 20 to slow the game down and kick the penalties. Think this is a test for Pyrgos to kick well enough if the 10 is struggling. Hopefully Jackson has a bit more time and weakened defenses to take advantage of.

Shame for Hoyland and Jones (who I hoped would start) but good for Low and Strauss to build faith. Overall happy with the choices. It does show a lack of a proper 6 at the moment which CDP will probably nail (to me he is a 6) to allow Strauss to take the 8 jersey from Wilson.

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Post by funnyExiledScot on Thu 23 Jun 2016, 10:42 am

Quite a bold rotation from Cotter, but I'm pleased to see Josh Strauss in the XV and for all the jokes about Maitland, he could use a run out.

Scott at 13 is a concern, I'm not convinced he's quick enough to defend that channel, but time will tell. Horne at 12 gives us some options around game management, and I suspect that's the thinking there.

Good to see the reserve front row getting a game. It's an area where we've historically struggled for depth, but these three have had good seasons and I'm optimistic that they'll do well.

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Post by LondonTiger on Thu 23 Jun 2016, 10:50 am

Who da fook is Huw Jones?

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Post by RDW on Thu 23 Jun 2016, 10:52 am

22 year old Stormers centre, born in Edinburgh but moved to England as a child. Moved to SA after school and was picked up by a SR team.

No Welsh lineage that he knows of surprisingly given the name!

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Post by funnyExiledScot on Thu 23 Jun 2016, 10:53 am

BigGee wrote:There is no way Laidlaw won't start and probably the best Henry can hope for is 20 off the bench unless we are out of sight at half time.


Very Happy

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Post by George Carlin on Thu 23 Jun 2016, 11:17 am

Hello children. Nice to be back.

Sorry for radio silence but my dad had a fall on Thursday night and by the time I had learned on Friday night that he was seriously bad and had hopped on the first flight on Saturday morning, he had passed away by the time our wheels had hit the tarmac in Glasgow 7 hours later. Which was typically impatient behaviour from the old man. Doh. Still all very much of a shock but 80 is a fair innings these days. Typing this in an Ayrshire hotel. I am drinking as much of the tap water as I can to increase my levels of World Classiness.

Anyhoo, back to the game. I was delighted with this selection and it is clear that victory in the first test has bought Le Grand Vern some leeway to experiment.

That front row may be unfamiliar at test level but the quality of player really is damn good and I hope that they get an hour together at the very least. They should get scrum parity at the very least and should show up well in the loose.

Seeing Johnny B back in the 7 shirt is wonderful and provided that Wilson has taken his anger management medication, that should be a well balanced back row. Just shows you the options that you have if you select Barclay - he has played 6, 7 and 8 recently and should be exactly what we need. Hardie deserves a break but will bring real speed if he comes on as a sub. Again, I will thole Tiny Tim against opposition that probably makes him look like a tax paying resident of Brobdingnag.

To actually name Henners as the nominated goalkicker in advance is obviously both intentional and strange. I can only imagine it is designed to head off any chatter about Jackson's temperament and to give the boy Piecrust a chance to see if his nerve holds in a test match environment. Will obviously have Jackson as a substitute, Laidlaw on the bench and St Stuart of The Attitude Problem for anything over 50m.

I have no issue with Scott at 13. Our pint glass runneth over with centre cover in this game. I am hoping that if Horne gets injured, then it will be a simple matter of Scott to 12 and Shuggy the Stormer at 13, which is his usual position. Hope that Shug gets at least 20 -30 minutes as I want to see what he's got.

All being well, Laidlaw will be the only unused substitute in this match.

On an unrelated note, does anyone know when the latest raft of SRU merchandise is coming out? I would quite like to pick up some fleeces for the whole family whilst I'm here, but there's bugger all in Greaves Sport in Glasgow at the moment.
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Post by Hazel Sapling on Thu 23 Jun 2016, 11:24 am

LT, Huw Jones was a rising player for Stormers last year when they were badly injury hit in the centres/wings and was able to keep Juan de Jongh out of the team for a few games. He has been put to the back of the rotation this year though for one reason or another (the return of De Allende and the need for a new SA outside centre certainly did not help). An OC/wing type, he is more quick and skillful than big. A Bennett rather than a Tuilagi.

As for centre cover GC, hopefully Jackson has a good hour to be subbed by Jones to push Horne to 10, Scott to 12 and Jones into 13.

Sorry to hear about the Dad Whisky

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Post by Rugby Fan on Thu 23 Jun 2016, 11:29 am

Sorry to hear about your father, George.

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Post by BigGee on Thu 23 Jun 2016, 11:44 am

Sorry about your loss GC, its never easy even when they have had a good innings.

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Post by BigGee on Thu 23 Jun 2016, 11:46 am

funnyExiledScot wrote:
BigGee wrote:There is no way Laidlaw won't start and probably the best Henry can hope for is 20 off the bench unless we are out of sight at half time.


Very Happy

As I have also said before, best leave the picking of the team to the coaches!

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Post by MacKnocked-on on Thu 23 Jun 2016, 12:09 pm

funnyExiledScot wrote:Quite a bold rotation from Cotter, but I'm pleased to see Josh Strauss in the XV and for all the jokes about Maitland, he could use a run out.

Scott at 13 is a concern, I'm not convinced he's quick enough to defend that channel, but time will tell. Horne at 12 gives us some options around game management, and I suspect that's the thinking there.

Good to see the reserve front row getting a game. It's an area where we've historically struggled for depth, but these three have had good seasons and I'm optimistic that they'll do well.

Maitland would have broken his try famine on at least one occasion if Hogg had passed him the ball, he was unlucky.


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Post by jimbopip on Thu 23 Jun 2016, 12:10 pm

George, so sorry to hear about your loss. If it's any consolation MrsPip's mother also had a fall in Ayr an her 80's about a year and a half ago and has never recovered. She is in a nursing home and it's a lottery as to whether she will recognise her daughter when we visit. She's being kept alive, but I'm not sure it's what I'd call living in any meaningful sense. Your dad would probably feel he saved you a lot of heartache in the long run by going quickly.
You come across as a fairly decent, good natured person on these boards, so he obviously did something right when raising you. I'll bet he boasted incessantly to his neighbours about his successful son, "out east earning a fortune and with a beautiful family".
It'll be Saturday evening before I get to watch the match, so I fully intend having a malt and thinking of some of your better witticisms.

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Post by RDW on Thu 23 Jun 2016, 12:35 pm

jimbopip wrote:George, so sorry to hear about your loss. If it's any consolation MrsPip's mother also had a fall in Ayr an her 80's about a year and a half ago and has never recovered. She is in a nursing home and it's a lottery as to whether she will recognise her daughter when we visit. She's being kept alive, but I'm not sure it's what I'd call living in any meaningful sense. Your dad would probably feel he saved you a lot of heartache in the long run by going quickly.
You come across as a fairly decent, good natured person on these boards, so he obviously did something right when raising you. I'll bet he boasted incessantly to his neighbours about his successful son, "out east earning a fortune and with a beautiful family".
It'll be Saturday evening before I get to watch the match, so I fully intend having a malt and thinking of some of your better witticisms.

GC I was gonna post my sympathies but I don't think much more needs said other than what Jimbo wrote!

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Post by funnyExiledScot on Thu 23 Jun 2016, 12:55 pm

jimbopip wrote:George, so sorry to hear about your loss. If it's any consolation MrsPip's mother also had a fall in Ayr an her 80's about a year and a half ago and has never recovered. She is in a nursing home and it's a lottery as to whether she will recognise her daughter when we visit. She's being kept alive, but I'm not sure it's what I'd call living in any meaningful sense. Your dad would probably feel he saved you a lot of heartache in the long run by going quickly.
You come across as a fairly decent, good natured person on these boards, so he obviously did something right when raising you. I'll bet he boasted incessantly to his neighbours about his successful son, "out east earning a fortune and with a beautiful family".
It'll be Saturday evening before I get to watch the match, so I fully intend having a malt and thinking of some of your better witticisms.

+1, although I am now concerned that someone has hacked into Jimbo's account.

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Post by jimbopip on Thu 23 Jun 2016, 1:48 pm

Aye very good, hacked indeed ya corduroy pantaloons wearing absinthe swigging working class persecuting parasite that you are. Happy now?

On a side note; Princess Daughter has offered to babysit FOR MY BIRTHDAY weekend and MrsPIp has said, "Let's fly the coup, like young lovebirds in spring" or words to that effect. I notice that Cornbury is on that weekend: a popular music jamboree for people with rhythm I am led to believe. I'm thinking of driving up after work on the Friday and staying somewhere local (hotel B&B) getting down in the mosh pit on the Saturday and slinking homeward on the Sunday. Anyone got any tips/advice etc?

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Post by funnyExiledScot on Thu 23 Jun 2016, 1:53 pm

jimbopip wrote:Aye very good, hacked indeed ya corduroy pantaloons wearing absinthe swigging working class persecuting parasite that you are. Happy now?

On a side note; Princess Daughter has offered to babysit  FOR MY BIRTHDAY weekend and MrsPIp has said, "Let's fly the coup, like young lovebirds in spring" or words to that effect. I notice that Cornbury is on that weekend: a popular music jamboree for people with rhythm I am led to believe. I'm thinking of driving up after work on the Friday and staying somewhere local (hotel B&B) getting down in the mosh pit on the Saturday and slinking homeward on the Sunday. Anyone got any tips/advice etc?

I was, but then you spelt rhythm correctly so I'm concerned again.....

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Post by RDW on Thu 23 Jun 2016, 1:56 pm

There's the Jimbo we know and love - Rab C Nesbit style ramblings followed by overly detailed descriptions on the gowings on of his various family members!

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Post by EWT Spoons on Thu 23 Jun 2016, 5:37 pm

GC sorry to hear about your loss. As you say 80 is a good run, but it's never easy losing a loved one.

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Post by TJ on Thu 23 Jun 2016, 9:39 pm

Pyrgos as captain - Didn't see that coming. Cotter must really see something good in him

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Post by George Carlin on Fri 24 Jun 2016, 6:40 pm

Thanks you guys. Hug
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Post by alive555 on Fri 24 Jun 2016, 8:48 pm

George Carlin wrote:Thanks you guys. Hug

condolences GC. all the best
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Post by RDW on Sat 25 Jun 2016, 11:38 am

Japan up for it as expected!

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Post by highland_scot on Sat 25 Jun 2016, 11:45 am

Excellent try there!

Schitt...

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Post by tigertattie on Sat 25 Jun 2016, 11:52 am

Japan are just much faster than we are.

Low is too slow
Strauss is too slow
Seymour is clearly injured

Struass off, Barclay to 6, Hardie to 7
Low off. Nel on
Seymour off, Sean the centurion on (would have put hoyland on but hey)
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Post by David-Douglas on Sat 25 Jun 2016, 12:11 pm

Pathetic display by Scotland so far. Disgraceful.

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Post by BigGee on Sat 25 Jun 2016, 12:20 pm

Can this week get any worse?

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Post by tigertattie on Sat 25 Jun 2016, 12:26 pm

Jeez man.

It's time to roll out laidlaw I think.
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Post by highland_scot on Sat 25 Jun 2016, 12:55 pm

This is poopie. I blame Farage!

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Post by tigertattie on Sat 25 Jun 2016, 1:07 pm

Know what this game needs?

Sean the centurion
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Post by RDW on Sat 25 Jun 2016, 1:23 pm

Well a 2 wins was the minimum we needed from this tour and we got that against a very awkward Japan team - can work on performance in the autumn!

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Post by BigGee on Sat 25 Jun 2016, 1:32 pm

Well that was hard work, but you have to say the defence was outstanding. Probably best not to mention the attack!

I think we did learn a few things though, mainly that some of the second strings are a big step downwards from the starters. Low, Sutherland, Pygros and Jacko really did not have great games, neither did McInally.

The subs one us the game and you have to say that GL was the conductor. Hardie, Nel, Reid and Brown all played very well and squeezed the life out of them.

Its been a long season and they all deserve a rest now.

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Post by RDW on Sat 25 Jun 2016, 1:57 pm

BigGee wrote:Well that was hard work, but you have to say the defence was outstanding. Probably best not to mention the attack!

I think we did learn a few things though, mainly that some of the second strings are a big step downwards from the starters. Low, Sutherland, Pygros and Jacko really did not have great games, neither did McInally.

The subs one us the game and you have to say that GL was the conductor. Hardie, Nel, Reid and Brown all played very well and squeezed the life out of them.

Its been a long season and they all deserve a rest now.

I missed most the game but it does sound like this was one game too far for some players.

This was Sutherland's breakthrough season and McInally only really established himself as a hooker at the start of this season. This was Low's first start since 2014 or something ridiculous like that. Pyrgos has also had a very disruptive season with injuries and Jackson has sat on the bench most of the season.

So it is perhaps not a surprise a lot of these players struggled! It is a worry but these players are still young and should get better.

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Post by George Carlin on Sat 25 Jun 2016, 6:39 pm

Couldn't watch this game but it sounds like it was difficult to like.

I am just glad that we weren't playing a SANZAR nation - we would have been absolutely horsed.
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Post by TheMildlyFranticLlama on Sat 25 Jun 2016, 11:00 pm

Only just caught up with the match, I tell you what Japan have some cracking rugby players, and are a much more enjoyable team to watch than Scotland are at the moment. Their wee 7 is a cracking player, and I've been a big fan of Tatekawa every time I've seen him play. Edinburgh and Glasgow could (and frequently have) do a lot worse than trying to entice some of these guys over for a season or two.

Won't bother talking about our performance, its doesn't merit discussing.

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Post by Nematode on Sun 26 Jun 2016, 12:14 am

I didn't want to add to the existing negativity atm... But hey, can hardly make things more depressing!

The past two games have been the worst with VC at the helm and I'd go as far to say the performance was on a par to how bad Scotland played in that game vs Tonga.

First and foremost, take nothing away from Japan. The try they scored was excellent - the best of all rugby played today. It's remarkable how far they have come when you think of when we recently played them at murrayfield. The only reason they lost was, Imo, because they were overeager.

Scotland were utter dross and an embarrassment.

- Hogg was very much like a Bucking Bronco - jumping around as usual to try and throw off a defender. Except this time his efforts to shimmy past the opposition could have been bettered by Sir Bruce Forsyth and, just like a Bucking Bronco, he went absolutely nowhere. His kicking was alright though, however, for the 6N player of the tournament, he was underwhelming.

- Seymour, apparently, was not match fit. I hope that was true...

- Horne carrying reminded me of a toddler running against glass repeatedly and then bursting into tears after they fall over. Didn't create or do anything of note.

- Strauss was about as quiet as Corb... Won't go there... Let's just say he was mediocre.

- J Gray - Worryingly ineffectual. His presence was ambiguous, failing to make many serious inroads. Like Hogg, an average performance by his standard.

- McInally - Saying this game wasn't his finest hour is an understatement. An unforgivable squint throw and his poor ball retention in contact will have Procter and Gamble on the line for him to advertise a soap product...

I think criticism of Low, Jackson and Pyrgos should be limited in that they have had such little game time recently.

The only players who had alright games were Scott, Laidlaw and Jones. Scott made some essential turnovers in defence and attack, Laidlaw steadied the team and Jones made a crucial turnover.

It has to be said, these are worrying signs.

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Post by TJ on Sun 26 Jun 2016, 12:30 am

I think you are far too hard on Scotland. This is a very fired up Japanese team playing at home in conditions they are used to. Remember they beat SA in the WC.

I don't think I have ever seen a team so quick into their formations and so quick to the ruck as Japan. I thought they played very well.

They forced scotland to revert to a territorial kicking game and could have one but for some excellent scots defense. Scotland simply had much less time to do anything compared to a six nations game. Scotland looked poor because thats allJapanallowed themto be.

Two wins away from home is two wins. The second string guys got some meaningful game time.

Not such an entertaining game as the first one tho which was a disappointment.

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Post by Cyril on Sun 26 Jun 2016, 1:00 am

Two well-matched sides. Not a great game but Scotland (just) gritted it out.

I'm not sure what direction Scotland are going in right now though.

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Post by TJ on Sun 26 Jun 2016, 10:19 am

Another thing to consider is that Scotland do not have great depth in the squad and we were shorn of most of our creative players especially in the midfield. I think Scotland will become stronger for this - they will have learnt how to play against a defence that sets up so quickly and an attack that forms up very quickly. Japan were far quicker in this regard than any other team I have seen play - and Scotland should then be able to move their own fast paced game up a notch in future games.

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Post by RDW on Sun 26 Jun 2016, 10:39 am

I'm with you on this TJ - 2 wins and no major injuries would be a successful tour and we just about got there. Better performances would have been nice but it was always going to be tough away to a fired up Japanese team.

I'm not sure how much summer tours really benefit the home nations really - England aside obviously!

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Post by TJ on Sun 26 Jun 2016, 11:21 am

Scotland also showed a bit of tactical nous. First game we tried to meet fire with fire. and won. Second game we tried to negate them - and won. Japan also changed their game plan a bit for the second game but overall I am heartened - remembering this Scotland team is very much still a work in progress.

A team that believes in its coach and the tactics he wants to use. A coach that plays the right team and tactics for our limited pool of players. A coach prepared to be bold ( Pyrgos starting etc) but who can change to plan B if warranted ( bring Laidlaw on early). a step up the world rankings ( even if by default)

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Post by RDW on Sun 26 Jun 2016, 3:32 pm

Just watched the game - I agree that a lot of players really didn't do their causes any favours but I don't think we were as bad as made out - especially the last half hour where we put a hell of a shift in defensively and played some clever rugby.

Our attack was absolutely non-existent all game though which is disappointing and we were terrible at looking after the ball in contact (which is not a new problem for us)

I thought Sutherland and Low did OK but Reid and Nel did a much better job, albeit scrummaging against Japan's reserves. McInally had his worst game since moving to hooker and looked haggard - he was probably delighted to get hooked at half time.

We won that game with the scrum Hogg's boot and Laidlaw's kicking!

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Post by TheMildlyFranticLlama on Sun 26 Jun 2016, 5:24 pm

RDW_Scotland wrote:Just watched the game - I agree that a lot of players really didn't do their causes any favours but I don't think we were as bad as made out - especially the last half hour where we put a hell of a shift in defensively and played some clever rugby.

Wouldn't agree with that bit myself, for the simple reason that we didn't manage to play any rugby at all during that match!

Some paragraphs from Tom English tell the story quite well:

In Tokyo, they created nothing. They posed little or no attacking threat, and gained zero momentum because of their colossal error count.

This is not being overly pessimistic; it is being exacting. It is being demanding of players whose standards should be a whole lot higher. If we go down the "win is a win" road it is a dangerous route, a place where only the bottom line matters.

There is more to it. There has to be if this Scotland team are going to fire a shot at competing for a Six Nations title any time soon.

Full article: http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/36633440

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Post by RDW on Sun 26 Jun 2016, 10:00 pm

Completely agree with you - by clever I don't mean exciting, I mean they figured out a way to win and acted on it. And it certainly wasn't exciting!

There is s positive in that too - that was our worst attacking performance in a long time yet we managed to find a way to win.

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Post by George Carlin on Mon 27 Jun 2016, 8:07 am

I agree with Tom English, but let's just take an 8th place in the world rankings for the moment. We just had it verified that we are scraggy at the end of a long season and throwing together a side for 2 games will always look disjointed.

We are still backpedalling in comparison to the other home nations though.

Next internationals as far as I am aware are:

12 November - Scotland v Australia
19 November - Scotland v Argentina
26 November - Scotland v Georgia
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Post by funnyExiledScot on Mon 27 Jun 2016, 8:23 am

I recorded the game but can't bring myself to watch it. I think I'll just assume that it was like watching Scotland under Andy Robinson. Competitive and dogged with no cutting edge in attack.

Sounds like some of the reserve players were a little bit Corbyn.

Next up Australia.....

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Post by RDW on Mon 27 Jun 2016, 8:38 am


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Post by RuggerRadge2611 on Mon 27 Jun 2016, 4:16 pm

Sorry to hear about your Dad George. Ale

A tough tour to Japan dealt with, solidly if unspectacularly. A long season finished with a double win in difficult conditions in front of the Emperor of Japan supporting his up and coming team. Happy with that.

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Post by RDW on Mon 27 Jun 2016, 4:20 pm

So Scotland have maintained 8th place, but are only a bawhair above Argentina who are in 9th.

Given that the argies play England and Wales in the AIs it is vitally important that we beat them and prevent them getting any victories.

We could also do with them not winning any Rugby Championship games...

If we can stay ahead of them following the AIs then at least we know our fate is in our own hands heading into the 6N, with the world cup draw being after that as far as I know.

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Post by GLove39 on Tue 28 Jun 2016, 1:23 am

Know posting football related stuff on here is generally considered haram, but damn we've got to look at pinching or making our own version of the Icelandic fans amazing Clap / chant.

https://twitter.com/garnekmedia/status/747534433108926464

3000 fans easily providing more atmosphere than you'd get at most Murrayfield matches.

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