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Post by Luke on Fri 22 Apr 2016, 12:53 pm

First topic message reminder :

The dates and venues of the 4 nation's have been announced. They are -

Fri 28th Oct - Scotland v Australia - Craven park Hull.

Sun 30th Oct - England v New Zealand - John Smiths stadium Huddersfield.

Sat 5th Nov - England v Scotland & Australia v New Zealand - Ricoh Arena Coventry.

Fri 11th Nov - Scotland v New Zealand - Derwent Park Workington.

Sun 13th Nov - England v Australia - Olympic Park London.

Sun 20th Nov - final at Anfield Liverpool.
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Post by The Beast on Sun 06 Jan 2019, 9:24 am

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George Hotel1895 wrote:Wigan sign Jarrod Sammut. Rather an odd signing for Wigan in my opinion
https://www.bbc.com/sport/rugby-league/46418802

Certainly a surprise I suspect for most, however Pat Lam has said Wigan will change their style of play and he will do that.  Whether that wins games however remains to be seen, he has not to the best of my knowledge played in SL since 2014.
Pat Lam? Surely Adrian

Yes, slip of the fingers.

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Post by George Hotel1895 on Sat 26 Jan 2019, 7:17 am

The Beast wrote:
George Hotel1895 wrote:
The Beast wrote:
George Hotel1895 wrote:Wigan sign Jarrod Sammut. Rather an odd signing for Wigan in my opinion
https://www.bbc.com/sport/rugby-league/46418802

Certainly a surprise I suspect for most, however Pat Lam has said Wigan will change their style of play and he will do that.  Whether that wins games however remains to be seen, he has not to the best of my knowledge played in SL since 2014.
Pat Lam? Surely Adrian

Yes, slip of the fingers.
It happens to us all.

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Post by The Beast on Sun 27 Jan 2019, 8:58 am

Some news to catch up on;

Keightley Cougars are now out of special measures and look set to start the season, however they do have a 12 deduction to overcome. At least they cannot be relegated and can look forward to making a fresh start.

St. Helens have ended their Dual Registration arrangement with Sheffield Eagles. Hull KR will not dual register with York.

Catalan Dragons have reached an agreement with the RFL and will defend the Challenge Cup. Answers on a postcard as to why Toronto & Toulouse are not playing.

Super League clubs are looking to extend the Marquee rule. Making the competition more like Premiership Soccer seems to be the strategy i.e. ruining it. Why not scrap the salary cap and don't bother drug testing whilst they are at it.

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Post by George Hotel1895 on Mon 28 Jan 2019, 1:28 am

The Beast wrote:Some news to catch up on;

Keightley Cougars are now out of special measures and look set to start the season, however they do have a 12 deduction to overcome.  At least they cannot be relegated and can look forward to making a fresh start.

St. Helens have ended their Dual Registration arrangement with Sheffield Eagles.  Hull KR will not dual register with York.

Catalan Dragons have reached an agreement with the RFL and will defend the Challenge Cup.  Answers on a postcard as to why Toronto & Toulouse are not playing.

Super League clubs are looking to extend the Marquee rule.  Making the competition more like Premiership Soccer seems to be the strategy i.e. ruining it.  Why not scrap the salary cap and don't bother drug testing whilst they are at it.
Well said

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Post by The Beast on Fri 01 Feb 2019, 4:29 pm

Ben Barba has been sacked by North Queensland Cowboys without playing a game, this on the basis of an alleged incident in a local casino.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-league/47087505

I would not be totally shocked to see him back in the UK or playing Union (perhaps France). It is hard to see many NRL clubs signing him. Maybe he could help with Warrington's (Kev Brown) or Castleford (Luke Gale) injury issues assuming anyone here will take what appears from the outside to be a potential risk?

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Post by George Hotel1895 on Thu 07 Feb 2019, 12:43 pm

The Beast wrote:Ben Barba has been sacked by North Queensland Cowboys without playing a game, this on the basis of an alleged incident in a local casino.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-league/47087505

I would not be totally shocked to see him back in the UK or playing Union (perhaps France).  It is hard to see many NRL clubs signing him.  Maybe he could help with Warrington's (Kev Brown) or Castleford (Luke Gale) injury issues assuming anyone here will take what appears from the outside to be a potential risk?
I hope i never see him playing our game again at any level

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Post by The Beast on Sat 09 Feb 2019, 9:06 am

George Hotel1895 wrote:
The Beast wrote:Ben Barba has been sacked by North Queensland Cowboys without playing a game, this on the basis of an alleged incident in a local casino.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-league/47087505

I would not be totally shocked to see him back in the UK or playing Union (perhaps France).  It is hard to see many NRL clubs signing him.  Maybe he could help with Warrington's (Kev Brown) or Castleford (Luke Gale) injury issues assuming anyone here will take what appears from the outside to be a potential risk?
I hope i never see him playing our game again at any level

Whilst acknowledging he has not been convicted the "incident" in a casino appears from reports to be much more serious and I 100% agree. With the NRL telling him to "find a new vocation" and Aus Union & UK Super League saying he will be be welcome his options are rightly very limited.

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Post by George Hotel1895 on Fri 15 Feb 2019, 7:03 am

The Beast wrote:
George Hotel1895 wrote:
The Beast wrote:Ben Barba has been sacked by North Queensland Cowboys without playing a game, this on the basis of an alleged incident in a local casino.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-league/47087505

I would not be totally shocked to see him back in the UK or playing Union (perhaps France).  It is hard to see many NRL clubs signing him.  Maybe he could help with Warrington's (Kev Brown) or Castleford (Luke Gale) injury issues assuming anyone here will take what appears from the outside to be a potential risk?
I hope i never see him playing our game again at any level

Whilst acknowledging he has not been convicted the "incident" in a casino appears from reports to be much more serious and I 100% agree.  With the NRL telling him to "find a new vocation" and Aus Union & UK Super League saying he will be be welcome his options are rightly very limited.
He's going to drive trucks now it seems


https://www.sportingnews.com/au/league/news/ben-barba-to-begin-new-career-as-a-truck-driver-after-north-queensland-cowboys-sacking/1bqgpher3mgv5z2lp6kwtwoyv

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Post by The Beast on Tue 19 Feb 2019, 7:13 pm

Potentially very bad news at Widnes and the wider game;

http://www.widnesvikings.co.uk/article/55517/club-statement---widnes-vikings

Hopefully the matter can be resolved asap, feel sick for the staff and fans.

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Post by gazzyD on Tue 19 Feb 2019, 7:40 pm

Years of poor management coming to fruition

Apparently in for 400k to the council and still owe Oneills 200k from when they were our kit suppliers last year

James Rule shouldn't be allowed anywhere near the sport ever again and the less said about OConnor the better


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Post by George Hotel1895 on Wed 20 Feb 2019, 8:59 am

The Beast wrote:Potentially very bad news at Widnes and the wider game;

http://www.widnesvikings.co.uk/article/55517/club-statement---widnes-vikings

Hopefully the matter can be resolved asap, feel sick for the staff and fans.
I remember Widnes having to offload Offiah and Davies because of cash flow problems.
History repeating itself i think.

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Post by Luke on Thu 21 Feb 2019, 5:54 am

Terrible news, another club struggling. This is happening far to often in the recent past. Hopefully they'll get out of it.
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Post by The Beast on Sat 23 Feb 2019, 10:03 am

Now confirmed that they are in administration and a 12 point deduction. A lot of speculation already regarding their players who the administrators will be looking at to reduce costs, the only good news being as the season has started several clubs are likely to be up to the salary cap. On this basis hopefully they can retain a core of what looks a strong side and have a fighting chance of staying up.

The issue that angers me is 12 points, have the RFL not learnt from Bradford? At liquidation (pre-season) Bradford were asset stripped and played out a miserable season of junior players being bullied who looked knackered half way through the season. I am not suggesting they need a pat on the back but having taken one to the stomach a kick in the balls does not help, won't attract investors who may well sit back and wait for liquidation.

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Post by Luke on Sun 24 Feb 2019, 1:53 pm

Got to admit I don't get the 12 points. There is no reason it's that big, and I just feel you might as well demote the club and get it over and done with.
Hopefully they will pull through and come out stronger for it
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Post by gazzyD on Wed 27 Feb 2019, 4:23 pm

It's good to see that James Rule has once again been made a show of

After blaming the lack of support for the majority of our issues, we've raised over 100k in the last 5 days (further evidence of how much of our potential fan base he had alienated) and hopefully promising news of a deal to secure the club's future today. Hopefully a tweet I have seen is true and administrators have informed other teams interested in players that they are now under contract

If true and our game goes ahead on Sunday, the stadium should be bouncing

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Post by Luke on Wed 27 Feb 2019, 4:28 pm

gazzyD wrote:It's good to see that James Rule has once again been made a show of

After blaming the lack of support for the majority of our issues, we've raised over 100k in the last 5 days (further evidence of how much of our potential fan base he had alienated) and hopefully promising news of a deal to secure the club's future today. Hopefully a tweet I have seen is true and administrators have informed other teams interested in players that they are now under contract

If true and our game goes ahead on Sunday, the stadium should be bouncing

I hope that it is true mate, and that the club is saved. I remember the great Widnes sides of the late 80's/90's. And it's so disappointing to see the struggles of recent years. I honestly hope you get back to stable times.
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Post by gazzyD on Wed 27 Feb 2019, 4:50 pm

Cheers mate, fingers crossed. Can't imagine this town without a Rugby team to follow.

They all seem to be rumours at the minute awaiting official confirmation but hoping it's a case of no smoke without fire

Gotta love this sport when literally everybody pulls together. Even the Wire fans haha

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Post by The Beast on Thu 28 Feb 2019, 10:05 am

Sounds promising Gazzy hopefully good news to follow. If you can keep those players you have a good chance to avoid relegation.

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Post by The Beast on Thu 28 Feb 2019, 10:58 am

Having mentioned Newcastle in the Bradford thread they become the first side this year to part ways with their coach Jason Payne has been asked to step down. It is possible he will stay with the club in some capacity after a review is completed.

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Post by gazzyD on Thu 28 Feb 2019, 4:27 pm

What a difference 24 hours makes. Still no deal and looking increasingly unlikely. Rumours some players already told they're getting released as can't afford to retain

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Post by gazzyD on Thu 28 Feb 2019, 5:46 pm

Now apparently a deal has been agreed and announcement imminent.

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Post by The Beast on Thu 28 Feb 2019, 7:19 pm

Reported via BBC website;

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-league/47406904

Great news, hope it goes well. Perhaps given it only one week the RFL will return at least 6 points?

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Post by The Beast on Sun 10 Mar 2019, 10:02 am

Wigan win their appeal regarding the salary breach and have 2 points returned, I have to say I am really not surprised by this. Mixed feelings, yes it was in the greater context minor but an opportunity missed to ensure clubs know the consequences.

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Post by Luke on Mon 11 Mar 2019, 3:02 am

In my view it sends out completely the wrong message. Made worse by the fact it's not Wigan's 1st time. They have it virtually impossible to police or stop clubs with regards the salary cap.
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Post by George Hotel1895 on Tue 12 Mar 2019, 2:34 pm

Luke wrote:In my view it sends out completely the wrong message. Made worse by the fact it's not Wigan's 1st time. They have it virtually impossible to police or stop clubs with regards the salary cap.
The 3rd time Wigan have been caught cheating the salary cap. The 2 point deduction should have stood imo.

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Post by The Beast on Sat 23 Mar 2019, 11:47 am

Wigan confirm they will give Shaun Edwards more time to decide his future in 2020. Very strange set of circumstances with their Chairman Ian Lenegan saying they have a verbal agreement but no contract. That said I am old school as far as I am concerned a handshake is my word and far more important than any piece of paper.

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Post by George Hotel1895 on Wed 27 Mar 2019, 11:54 am

The Beast wrote:Wigan confirm they will give Shaun Edwards more time to decide his future in 2020.  Very strange set of circumstances with their Chairman Ian Lenegan saying they have a verbal agreement but no contract.  That said I am old school as far as I am concerned a handshake is my word and far more important than any piece of paper.
I think the ship has sailed as regards Edwards joining Wigan next season or any season.
Wigan should have got him to sign and contract and held it to him.

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Post by The Beast on Wed 03 Apr 2019, 6:40 pm

Gabe Hamlin (Wigan) has been charged with a doping violation and is provisionally suspended.

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Post by George Hotel1895 on Tue 16 Apr 2019, 7:53 am

The Beast wrote:Gabe Hamlin (Wigan) has been charged with a doping violation and is provisionally suspended.
Really dumb on his part if he thought he wouldn't get caught.
Probably looking at at least a 2 year ban

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Post by The Beast on Sun 28 Apr 2019, 9:22 am

Some coach changes in the lower leagues;

Carl Forster will NOT take charge of Rochdale's game at Bradford this afternoon. Not necessarily leaving the club or his role but this does not bode well.

Richard Marshall leaves Halifax after a very successful 4 years. Rumour is that he has been told his contract will not be renewed next year and both parties have agreed to part company immediately. I would be very surprised if he is out of the game for long.

Leon Pryce is sacked by Workington. Very surprised at this given that they only missed promotion due to losses and Bradford and a narrow defeat at Swinton last year. Again I suspect he will be in demand.

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Post by George Hotel1895 on Wed 01 May 2019, 12:26 pm

The Beast wrote:Some coach changes in the lower leagues;

Carl Forster will NOT take charge of Rochdale's game at Bradford this afternoon. Not necessarily leaving the club or his role but this does not bode well.

Richard Marshall leaves Halifax after a very successful 4 years.  Rumour is that he has been told his contract will not be renewed next year and both parties have agreed to part company immediately.  I would be very surprised if he is out of the game for long.

Leon Pryce is sacked by Workington.  Very surprised at this given that they only missed promotion due to losses and Bradford and a narrow defeat at Swinton last year.  Again I suspect he will be in demand.
The Richard Marshall is certainly a strange one to me

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Post by The Beast on Sun 09 Jun 2019, 11:02 am

David Argyle resigns as Toronto Chairman & CEO following an alleged incident of racism during a game v Swinton.

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Post by The Beast on Sat 15 Jun 2019, 8:33 pm

Kallum Watkins will leave Leeds earlier than expected (1st July) to join Gold Coast Titans in the NRL.

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Post by George Hotel1895 on Tue 25 Jun 2019, 8:30 pm

The Beast wrote:Kallum Watkins will leave Leeds earlier than expected (1st July) to join Gold Coast Titans in the NRL.
I hope it works out for him, but for me his form this season has been disappointing.

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Post by The Beast on Wed 26 Jun 2019, 7:02 pm

Agreed although in fairness that was a serious knee injury which will take into next year to fully recover from.

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Post by George Hotel1895 on Wed 26 Jun 2019, 7:34 pm

Lewis Tierney signs new deal at Catalans
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-league/48777402

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Post by The Beast on Mon 01 Jul 2019, 9:58 pm

Featherstone Rovers have been fined £10k following incidents of unacceptable behaviour by a section of fans at Bradford. https://www.featherstonerovers.co.uk/news/club-statement-GjoSl

I was not there and no-one I know have commented however they are now also investigating issues that allegedly occured during the Fax game on Sunday https://www.featherstonerovers.co.uk/news/rovers-investigating-fan-comments-on-social-media-yYe6O

There will be segregation of fans for this weekend's game v Leigh. I have to say this is very sad, should not be part of our sport and needs dealing with immediately.

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Post by Luke on Tue 02 Jul 2019, 4:03 am

Sorry,
I got it wrong it was an old article that I was reading duh.

Still think Widnes will stay up, but it's going to be hard times the next few seasons.
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Post by George Hotel1895 on Fri 12 Jul 2019, 8:26 am

Luke wrote:Sorry,
I  got it wrong it was an old article that I was reading duh.

Still think Widnes will stay up, but it's going to be hard times the next few seasons.
Rugby league needs a strong Widnes on an off the pitch

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