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Post by Dolphin Ziggler on Mon 25 Apr 2016, 5:58 pm

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I'm shocked!

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Post by Guest on Tue 03 May 2016, 10:49 am

Lucky they won the title yesterday...next week's word is "felching"

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Post by GSC on Tue 03 May 2016, 12:01 pm

Todays word is Snuggery actually.

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Post by GSC on Tue 03 May 2016, 12:03 pm

In a slight twist to one of my favorite stats

Number of times lifting the PL trophy (from next week)
Steven Gerrard: 0
Big Wes: 1
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Post by Dolphin Ziggler on Tue 03 May 2016, 12:31 pm

As much as I'd rather have sat on a table with Duty at a dinner party than had Spurs win the league, I'm sick of the media and Leicester.

Also, Miky, you were completely right last night. Embarrassing to see people promoting eye-gouging and thinking players should not be punished for actions on Costa.

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Post by Alistair on Tue 03 May 2016, 12:34 pm

Dolphin Ziggler wrote:As much as I'd rather have sat on a table with Duty at a dinner party than had Spurs win the league, I'm sick of the media and Leicester.

If it was West Ham you'd be chirping on like nobody's business. Let them have their moment, you're only jealous that it's never happened to your club.

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Post by GSC on Tue 03 May 2016, 12:52 pm

I have a foot in both camps.

Its likely a once in a lifetime moment, and people are right to celebrate that and make a big deal of it.

That said, there are some less savoury elements that are completely whitewashed (I cannot stand Vardy for one). Also I'm slightly biased, as 15 people beeping their horns in unison slightly annoying at quarter to 12 after 2 hours continuously.
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Post by Alistair on Tue 03 May 2016, 1:00 pm

Every team has their dark characters, it shouldn't really detract from what they have achieved.

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Post by GSC on Tue 03 May 2016, 1:06 pm

I dont think either of us are detracting from their achievement no?

Its a different thing to not enjoying the glorification of a **** like Vardy.
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Post by GSC on Tue 03 May 2016, 1:07 pm

From the opposite side, I couldn't be happier for Big Wes
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Post by Alistair on Tue 03 May 2016, 1:12 pm

Moaning about the media and Leicester is a bit, what did you expect? Next to no coverage, a little mention on Sky Sports News?

Or were you hoping for distasteful headlines 'Racist Vardy Wins Premier League'?

I'd rather read about Leicester and Vardy's story than about how West Ham have r*ped the taxpayers for their new stadium.

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Post by GSC on Tue 03 May 2016, 1:14 pm

I expected exactly what happened.

That doesn't mean I have to enjoy all of it no?
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Post by Alistair on Tue 03 May 2016, 1:15 pm

I was aiming my comments more at Dolphin in fairness, GSC.


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Post by Stella on Tue 03 May 2016, 2:11 pm

Of course there's going to be a media frenzy. Leicester City have won the title. Those words in them self look wrong.
Can they retain it? NO!
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Post by westisbest on Tue 03 May 2016, 2:15 pm

Right.
I'm putting a tenner on Saints to win it next season. Wink

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Post by Stella on Tue 03 May 2016, 2:19 pm

Burnley are about 5000-1
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Post by Guest on Tue 03 May 2016, 2:21 pm

Stella wrote:Burnley are about 5000-1
Better odds than Liverpool after that f*cking horrendous effort at the weekend...still, next season will be our season and all that.

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Post by Fernando on Tue 03 May 2016, 2:28 pm

Laugh It's always your year Dave Ok!

I hope Dembele gets a very long ban can't go around trying to blind people even if Costa is a c*nt.

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Post by Stella on Tue 03 May 2016, 2:44 pm

DAVE667 wrote:
Stella wrote:Burnley are about 5000-1
Better odds than Liverpool after that f*cking horrendous effort at the weekend...still, next season will be our season and all that.

You never know!
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Post by Guest on Tue 03 May 2016, 4:58 pm

Stella wrote:
DAVE667 wrote:
Stella wrote:Burnley are about 5000-1
Better odds than Liverpool after that f*cking horrendous effort at the weekend...still, next season will be our season and all that.

You never know!
No, I f*cking well do know and it won't be. It'll be glimmers of hope followed by periods of mediocrity and the occasional shower of sh!t like the weekend....so basically this season all over again.

Or maybe with the departure of Skrtyl and the arrival of Matip we'll forge a defensive partnership to rival Hansen and Lawro coupled with a midfield general in the mould of Souness (without the excessively violent streak) and 20+ goals a season striker (hopefully Sturridge) we might put up a valiant battle for top four but ultimately fall short and wish we had a spare £300 million.

Who knows... I do but I live in hope more than expectation

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Post by nathan on Tue 03 May 2016, 5:06 pm

3 bans for Spurs then? They get an automatic fine for that amount of yellow cards.

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Post by Dolphin Ziggler on Tue 03 May 2016, 5:47 pm

Alistair wrote:
Dolphin Ziggler wrote:As much as I'd rather have sat on a table with Duty at a dinner party than had Spurs win the league, I'm sick of the media and Leicester.

If it was West Ham you'd be chirping on like nobody's business. Let them have their moment, you're only jealous that it's never happened to your club.

Lazy assumptions and a mention of the stadium later. It's for these comebacks that I detest the press. Opinions? Whatever someone tells me to think...

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Post by Guest on Tue 03 May 2016, 7:03 pm

I wonder what the odds are for Leicester being relegated next season and Ranieri being the first premiership manager sacked in the new season.  I doubt whether I could get odds of 5000 to 1 on it?  Football is a fickle sport.

I wonder what the odds are for Mourinho being the first premiership manager sacked in the new season? That would be a linked bet for LV Gaal being sacked, Mourinho being appointed, then he being sacked (dressing room unrest + relegation standard performance or something else).

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly on Tue 03 May 2016, 7:11 pm

You're looking for a betting site Nore - may I recommend sky bet, bet365 or any other gambling establishments Ok!
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Post by sirfredperry on Wed 04 May 2016, 7:35 am

Terrific for Leicester but it has to be said that the standard in the Premier League this season has been very poor.
I expect that "normal" service will resume next season. Few will believe that Chelsea will do so badly again and surely Arsenal and Man City will have better seasons. If Leicester do well again, that really WILL be a story. (comparisons with Boris Becker who not only won Wimbledon at 17 but - amazingly - won it again at 18 the following year).

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Post by westisbest on Wed 04 May 2016, 9:01 am

Is Leicester winning the league the best sporting achievement ever as some are saying?






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Post by Stella on Wed 04 May 2016, 9:08 am

westisbest wrote:Is Leicester winning the league the best sporting achievement ever as some are saying?






As far as British Football goes, Forest winning and retaining the European Cup was pretty big. English clubs did dominate during the late 70's and early 80's, as you will know but the fact a relatively small club retained it was and still is massive, though that was a knock-out competition.

I don't think you can compare teams (Greece, Forest) and individuals (Becker, Ben Curtis) winning tournaments to Leicester winning a 38 game league.
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Post by GSC on Wed 04 May 2016, 9:14 am

I'm biased, but Cloughs side winning back to back European cups is further ahead, and it isn't that close. Winning it once is one thing, repeating is another thing entirely.


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Post by Stella on Wed 04 May 2016, 9:20 am

GSC wrote:I'm biased, but Cloughs side winning back to back European cups isnt further ahead, and it isn't that close. Winning it once is one thing, repeating is another thing entirely.

You did have the world's costliest players!
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Post by Alistair on Wed 04 May 2016, 9:29 am

Dolphin Ziggler wrote:
Alistair wrote:
Dolphin Ziggler wrote:As much as I'd rather have sat on a table with Duty at a dinner party than had Spurs win the league, I'm sick of the media and Leicester.

If it was West Ham you'd be chirping on like nobody's business. Let them have their moment, you're only jealous that it's never happened to your club.

Lazy assumptions and a mention of the stadium later. It's for these comebacks that I detest the press. Opinions? Whatever someone tells me to think...

I don't work for the press, thanks.

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Post by Fernando on Wed 04 May 2016, 2:35 pm

FA supposedly going for a 10 match ban on Dembele.

Fully justified don't care if Costa's a c*nt you can't try and blind someone just as bad if not worse then biting.

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Post by Guest on Wed 04 May 2016, 3:01 pm

You get 10-12 week ban for eye gouging in Rugby, so sounds about right

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Post by Crimey on Wed 04 May 2016, 3:14 pm

Definitely worse than biting for me, as it has the potential to cause really serious damage. Biting is just more weird.

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Post by Stella on Wed 04 May 2016, 3:21 pm

Crimey wrote:Definitely worse than biting for me, as it has the potential to cause really serious damage. Biting is just more weird.

I agree 100%, unless we're talking a hannibal lecter type of bite rather than a Suarez one.
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Post by Alistair on Wed 04 May 2016, 3:24 pm

Stella wrote:
Crimey wrote:Definitely worse than biting for me, as it has the potential to cause really serious damage. Biting is just more weird.

I agree 100%, unless we're talking a hannibal lecter type of bite rather than a Suarez one.

Both clearly have a mental deficiency.

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Post by Stella on Wed 04 May 2016, 3:27 pm

Alistair wrote:
Stella wrote:
Crimey wrote:Definitely worse than biting for me, as it has the potential to cause really serious damage. Biting is just more weird.

I agree 100%, unless we're talking a hannibal lecter type of bite rather than a Suarez one.

Both clearly have a mental deficiency.

Yep, though biting might be the done thing in Uruguay!!!
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Post by Fernando on Wed 04 May 2016, 3:57 pm

Dembele charged with alleged act of violent conduct - Means 3 match ban is not suitable if found guilty
Spurs & Chelsea charged with 3 counts of failing to control players.

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Post by Dolphin Ziggler on Wed 04 May 2016, 5:53 pm

Alistair wrote:
Dolphin Ziggler wrote:
Alistair wrote:
Dolphin Ziggler wrote:As much as I'd rather have sat on a table with Duty at a dinner party than had Spurs win the league, I'm sick of the media and Leicester.

If it was West Ham you'd be chirping on like nobody's business. Let them have their moment, you're only jealous that it's never happened to your club.

Lazy assumptions and a mention of the stadium later. It's for these comebacks that I detest the press. Opinions? Whatever someone tells me to think...

I don't work for the press, thanks.

You just consume what they give you

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Post by Hammersmith harrier on Wed 04 May 2016, 6:09 pm

I genuinely would not give Dembele a ban, as far as i'm concerned it does make a difference it was Costa, anyone barring Suarez then by all means ban him. Torres got away with something very similar on Vertonghen a couple of seasons ago.

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Post by PaulHv2 on Wed 04 May 2016, 6:10 pm

Part of me hopes that's a joke HH, but I highly doubt it.
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Post by westisbest on Wed 04 May 2016, 7:58 pm

A lengthly ban is what he and other players should get, aswell as a heafty fine.

A fine alone is not enough, these players need to be made an example of.


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Post by Dolphin Ziggler on Wed 04 May 2016, 10:49 pm

You can gouge the eye of someone annoying. And I can r*pe a r*pist. I presume that's right in this new world

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Post by dummy_half on Wed 04 May 2016, 11:56 pm

John wrote:You get 10-12 week ban for eye gouging in Rugby, so sounds about right

For clarification, 12 weeks is the standard ban in rugby union for a low grade offence (which can be reduced by up to 50 % based on admittance of guilty and previous good record), which would normally be reckless contact with the face and eye area while doing something that is part of the game (i.e. tackling or binding to a ruck). Medium level offences, which iirc are those judged to be intentional contact with the eye and surrounding but without significant force, have a maximum sanction of 18 weeks - I'd rate Dembele's actions at this level.

It is possible to be banned for up to 3 years for a deliberate gouge with the clear intent to cause harm.

Given the scale of suspensions typically dished out in football, I think 10 weeks wouldn't be seen as being unduly lenient, but wouldn't be surprised if it was a bit longer.

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Post by Alistair on Thu 05 May 2016, 10:39 am

Dolphin Ziggler wrote:
Alistair wrote:
Dolphin Ziggler wrote:
Alistair wrote:
Dolphin Ziggler wrote:As much as I'd rather have sat on a table with Duty at a dinner party than had Spurs win the league, I'm sick of the media and Leicester.

If it was West Ham you'd be chirping on like nobody's business. Let them have their moment, you're only jealous that it's never happened to your club.

Lazy assumptions and a mention of the stadium later. It's for these comebacks that I detest the press. Opinions? Whatever someone tells me to think...

I don't work for the press, thanks.

You just consume what they give you

If you say so, Dolphin.

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Post by Dolphin Ziggler on Thu 05 May 2016, 10:47 am

Even lazy fishermen get the odd bite, Alistair.

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Post by Dolphin Ziggler on Thu 05 May 2016, 3:33 pm

Reports that we have bid £31.5m for Batshuayi. Sounds to me like too many better clubs will be in for him

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Post by Dolphin Ziggler on Thu 05 May 2016, 3:59 pm

Telegraph also has it that West Ham and Southampton will activate an £8m release clause for Townsend if Newcastle go down. Would be happy at £8m, not gonna evolve us or anything but hes a decent player.

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Post by Guest on Thu 05 May 2016, 4:09 pm

Glad he's getting the recognition his talent & performances deserve, heard he's up for the player of the month. Been at the forefront of our resurgence & hopefully we can stay up & keep him. £8m is peanuts, especially for English talent & arguably the most in form winger we have before the Euro's.

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Post by Fernando on Thu 05 May 2016, 4:10 pm

This summer is going to be great for transfer activity. With the TV deal expecting to see a lot of big money deals going on

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Post by westisbest on Thu 05 May 2016, 7:30 pm

Never a good time to go down.

Especially this season.

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Post by PaulHv2 on Thu 05 May 2016, 7:31 pm

Talks that Spurs and the FA are close to agreeing a deal to play their home games at Wembley in the 2017/18 season.
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