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Post by LondonTiger on Tue 03 May 2016, 4:24 pm

Next Wednesday the Rugy Players Association hosts it's annual awards dinner for English Rugby. There are a variety of Honourable Awards (including Charlie Hodgson) but the most interesting awards are those for AP Player of the Year, AP Young Player of the year and England player of the year. These awards are voted for by the players and for the first two look solely at performances in the AP. The nominees for these two are:

Player of the Year
Thomas Waldrom
Charles Piutau
George Smith
Nathan Huges
Andy Goode


Young Player of the Year
Jack Clifford
Elliot Daly
Maro Itoje
Harry Mallinder
Harry Thacker


England Player of the Year
As voted for by the EPS members
James Haskell
George Kruis
Chris Robshaw
Billy Vunipola
Anthony Watson


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Re: RPA Players Player of The Year

Post by propdavid_london on Tue 03 May 2016, 4:41 pm

For me - it should be between George Smith and Thomas Waldrom for the seniors and young player should be Clifford or Itoje

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Re: RPA Players Player of The Year

Post by doctor_grey on Tue 03 May 2016, 6:06 pm

I think George Smith was transformational for Wasps. Impact far greater then just his play in matches. To me, no one else is close.
Except Andy Goode, who will win the Round Rugby Player of the Year award. He only played between servings of cheeseburgers. A hero to everyday folk the world over.

Young player award will likely go to Itoje, if for no other reason to keep the 5000 or 6000 actual Sarries fans who show up for their matches happy. Prince Harry (future England and Lions captain) did not play enough matches this season to merit the award.

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Re: RPA Players Player of The Year

Post by Heaf on Tue 03 May 2016, 8:43 pm

I'm truly astounded that AG made the list ... perhaps someone misunderstood the question.

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Re: RPA Players Player of The Year

Post by formerly known as Sam on Tue 03 May 2016, 9:12 pm

Harry Thacker vs Itoje for young player. Goode for player of the season, he transformed Falcons and saved them.

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Post by yappysnap on Tue 03 May 2016, 9:25 pm

Richard Wigglesworth not happy with the list! Making claims that players voted players from clubs other then Sarries on purpose.

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Post by yappysnap on Tue 03 May 2016, 9:29 pm

Smith or Goode for player, a part of me really wants to see the photos of an over weight, old, balding bloke go pick up the player of the season award!

Itoje for the young player award. I really don't want him to have it as it'll make the BT/Sky hype train go totally over board. But you can't say he doesn't deserve it.

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Re: RPA Players Player of The Year

Post by LondonTiger on Tue 03 May 2016, 9:57 pm

yappysnap wrote:Richard Wigglesworth not happy with the list! Making claims that players voted players from clubs other then Sarries on purpose.

and i thought Sarries were about the team, not the individual?

He really should wait and see who gets voted into the RPA team of the year before he moans. Even then it seems rather churlish of him to accuse fellow players of doing that - fans woudl do it, but players I would expect have a lot more respect for each other.

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Re: RPA Players Player of The Year

Post by SirBurger on Tue 03 May 2016, 10:22 pm

Goode being nominated is an absolute joke. He played about five games...

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Re: RPA Players Player of The Year

Post by Heaf on Tue 03 May 2016, 10:40 pm

And if what we believe to be the case is true you'd have to question rugby values etc

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Re: RPA Players Player of The Year

Post by Welly on Tue 03 May 2016, 11:01 pm

doctor_grey wrote:I think George Smith was transformational for Wasps.  Impact far greater then just his play in matches.  To me, no one else is close.  
Except Andy Goode, who will win the Round Rugby Player of the Year award.  He only played between servings of cheeseburgers.  A hero to everyday folk the world over.    

Young player award will likely go to Itoje, if for no other reason to keep the 5000 or 6000 actual Sarries fans who show up for their matches happy.  Prince Harry (future England and Lions captain) did not play enough matches this season to merit the award.  

Def agree with Smtih and Itoje.

Will say that Thacker has played 21 games this season TBF.

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Re: RPA Players Player of The Year

Post by George Carlin on Wed 04 May 2016, 4:33 am

Judging the rabid outpourings of praise throughout the Six Nations, if Itoje does not win, then I expect these boards to melt into infinity and to see the Seven Horsemen in my local Starbucks getting their java hit before going to work.

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Re: RPA Players Player of The Year

Post by yappysnap on Wed 04 May 2016, 1:23 pm

SirBurger wrote:Goode being nominated is an absolute joke. He played about five games...

Those 5 games were pretty much the difference between a club being relegated or staying up though, so a good impact.

And I get the sense he's well liked.

Perhaps the players voted for him because of all he's done

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Post by yappysnap on Wed 04 May 2016, 1:27 pm

George Carlin wrote:Judging the rabid outpourings of praise throughout the Six Nations, if Itoje does not win, then I expect these boards to melt into infinity and to see the Seven Horsemen in my local Starbucks getting their java hit before going to work.

Don't worry George, Itoje will win. If he doesn't then you'll have more then the 7 Horsemen to worry about. Imagine what all 50 Sarries fans could do when they get upset!

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Re: RPA Players Player of The Year

Post by LondonTiger on Wed 04 May 2016, 3:14 pm

yappysnap wrote:
George Carlin wrote:Judging the rabid outpourings of praise throughout the Six Nations, if Itoje does not win, then I expect these boards to melt into infinity and to see the Seven Horsemen in my local Starbucks getting their java hit before going to work.

Don't worry George, Itoje will win. If he doesn't then you'll have more then the 7 Horsemen to worry about. Imagine what all 50 Sarries fans could do when they get upset!

Sing a song?

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Re: RPA Players Player of The Year

Post by yappysnap on Thu 05 May 2016, 6:56 am

While waggling their fingers at you LT. Picture that.

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Re: RPA Players Player of The Year

Post by Pete330v2 on Thu 05 May 2016, 9:03 am

I'd love to see Piutau getting the gong, simply because next season, he's ours Smile

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Re: RPA Players Player of The Year

Post by LondonTiger on Thu 05 May 2016, 3:45 pm

OP updated with the nominees for England Player of the year award. Only members of the EPS allowed to vote.

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Re: RPA Players Player of The Year

Post by ChequeredJersey on Thu 05 May 2016, 6:58 pm

Smith


Itoje


Kruis


In my opinion. Though most are reasonable choices

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Re: RPA Players Player of The Year

Post by ChequeredJersey on Thu 05 May 2016, 7:01 pm

LondonTiger wrote:
yappysnap wrote:Richard Wigglesworth not happy with the list! Making claims that players voted players from clubs other then Sarries on purpose.

and i thought Sarries were about the team, not the individual?

He really should wait and see who gets voted into the RPA team of the year before he moans. Even then it seems rather churlish of him to accuse fellow players of doing that - fans woudl do it, but players I would expect have a lot more respect for each other.

Scrum half is gobby, shocker? Wink

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Re: RPA Players Player of The Year

Post by yappysnap on Thu 05 May 2016, 10:17 pm

Robshaw Yahoo just keeps on getting recognised by everyone other then the press

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Post by ChequeredJersey on Thu 05 May 2016, 11:03 pm

yappysnap wrote:Robshaw Yahoo just keeps on getting recognised by everyone other then the press

I'm not convinced that all of the rugby "journalists" actually watch the matches they comment on

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Re: RPA Players Player of The Year

Post by yappysnap on Fri 06 May 2016, 6:59 am

I'm pretty convinced most of them have their columns pre written, and won't let a little thing like the match get in the way

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Re: RPA Players Player of The Year

Post by LondonTiger on Fri 06 May 2016, 7:56 am

Generally the press have been quite complimentary over the years, he has been Journalists Player of the Year for example.

I think it is fans and the part time pundits who tend to dislike.

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Re: RPA Players Player of The Year

Post by HongKongCherry on Fri 06 May 2016, 8:09 am

What no Glaws players?? Erm

I think a little club bias may be creeping into this re the young player of the year. Itoje is streets ahead of anyone else and whilst Thacker, Clifford and Prince Harry (or 36.2) have had good seasons, Daly is the clear 2nd choice.

George Smith should also be a shoe in for the player of the year. His work rate and link play are simply outstanding and he'll be a big loss to the Jeff next season.

For the England player, Kruis should get it for performance, however, given the hell Robshaw went through post RWC he deserves it.

Nevertheless, I think Matt Kvesic should win all 3...

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Re: RPA Players Player of The Year

Post by LondonTiger on Fri 06 May 2016, 8:57 am

Smith, Itoje, Kruis for me too.

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Re: RPA Players Player of The Year

Post by Welly on Fri 06 May 2016, 9:54 am

Meh no Glous players have been massively impressive TBH.

Only Kvesic could feel hard done by IMO.

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Re: RPA Players Player of The Year

Post by lostinwales on Fri 06 May 2016, 11:04 am

HongKongCherry wrote:... Prince Harry (or 36.2) ...

I like that laughing

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Re: RPA Players Player of The Year

Post by yappysnap on Fri 06 May 2016, 12:14 pm

Would it be unfair to do an un-player of the season award? Based on conduct, form, expectation and reality...

My shortlist would be:
Paice - so many silly yellow cards, probably more of a lifetime award
Marler - played well but let himself down
Farrell - so many reckless tackles, gobby to refs too
Franks - won 2 RWC's, an ex AB, been utterly muh
L Dickson - horribly, horribly, slow. at every single. breakdown
PDJ - does he even play any more?

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Re: RPA Players Player of The Year

Post by HongKongCherry on Fri 06 May 2016, 12:30 pm

Yappy, do you mind. PDJ has played 18 games or 529 minutes this season; he has been effective for at least 2 minutes of that time too

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Re: RPA Players Player of The Year

Post by yappysnap on Fri 06 May 2016, 1:00 pm

That's literally 4x more effective then he was for Quins HK. You lucky people!

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Re: RPA Players Player of The Year

Post by LondonTiger on Thu 12 May 2016, 10:02 am

Winners:

George Smith - Player
Maro Itoje - Young Player
Billy Vunipola - England
Sarah Hunter - England Ladies
Dan Bibby - 7s
Charlie Hodgson - Lifetime achievement
Henry Fraser - Blythe Spirit (Will's disabled brother)
Rob Hawkins - Development
Jack Lam - Championship
Brian O'Driscoll - Hall of Fame


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Re: RPA Players Player of The Year

Post by offload on Thu 12 May 2016, 10:10 am

LondonTiger wrote:Winners:

George Smith - Player
Maro Itoje - Young Player
Billy Vunipola - England
Sarah Hunter - England Ladies
Dan Bibby - 7s
Charlie Hodgson - Lifetime achievement
Henry Fraser - Blythe Spirit (Will's disabled brother)
Rob Hawkins - Development
Jack Lam - Championship
Brian O'Driscoll - Hall of Fame


Seems a perfectly reasonable list of winners.

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Re: RPA Players Player of The Year

Post by LondonTiger on Thu 12 May 2016, 10:12 am

Agreed.

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Re: RPA Players Player of The Year

Post by propdavid_london on Thu 12 May 2016, 12:20 pm

What's the remit of the RPA? Is it supposed to cover the RFU umbrella? If so then shouldn't the Hall of Famers only be those that have played in the RFU leagues or represented country?

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Re: RPA Players Player of The Year

Post by LondonTiger on Thu 12 May 2016, 12:29 pm

Hall of Fame can be anyone, just only RPA members allowed to vote.

Inductees to any Hall of Fame tend to be designed to use a players fame to promote the organisation. So people who know BOD may now know RPA.

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Re: RPA Players Player of The Year

Post by LondonTiger on Thu 12 May 2016, 12:33 pm

Last years Jonny Wilkinson was inducted, joining people like Martin Johnson, Jason Robinson, Michael Lynagh and Gareth Edwards.

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Re: RPA Players Player of The Year

Post by propdavid_london on Thu 12 May 2016, 12:51 pm

OK - fair enough. Makes sense

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