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Ulster 2016/2017

Post by Notch on Tue 24 May 2016, 6:08 pm

First topic message reminder :

The build up to Ulsters gloriously successful 2016/2017 campaign starts here!

Allow summer optimism to get the better of you or discuss why we are in crisis right here on this thread- before weary resignation over the quality of forwards we have sinks in once again.


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Re: Ulster 2016/2017

Post by SecretFly on Wed 15 Jun 2016, 1:20 pm

It would be good though, billy. Also the talk about POC getting involved somewhere/someplace. These guys have the knowledge - better to be sharing it with young players now than waffling in an RTE studio as a pundit.

Time for BOD to put his money in his back pocket now and lay off the cushy TV stuff, and get his head down again as a coach. Talent doesn't just stop on the day of retirement.

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Re: Ulster 2016/2017

Post by neilthom7 on Wed 22 Jun 2016, 5:44 pm

The Ulster squad for next season has been confirmed today http://www.ulsterrugby.com/news/15004.php#.V2q_4qKeGyx what do we think?

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Re: Ulster 2016/2017

Post by Notch on Wed 22 Jun 2016, 6:15 pm

They're saying we're not going another back row.

Which is terrifying, really.

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Re: Ulster 2016/2017

Post by marty2086 on Wed 22 Jun 2016, 8:10 pm

Maybe see more of Henderson in the back row, Henry, Henderson and Reidy wouldnt look too shabby, maybe see some of Treadwell there too

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Post by Rory_Gallagher on Wed 22 Jun 2016, 9:04 pm

It would be good if Lorcan Dow steps up this season. Does he seem likely to do so?

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Re: Ulster 2016/2017

Post by Don Alfonso on Thu 23 Jun 2016, 12:09 am

So, the following players are gone:
Paul Jackson (Hooker)
Ruaidhri Murphy (LH Prop)
Bronson Ross (TH Prop)
Lewis Stevenson (Lock)
Willie Faloon (Flanker)
Frankie Taggart (Flanker)
Nick Williams (Number Eight)
Paul Rowley (Scrum Half)
Ian Humphreys (Out Half)
Sam Arnold (Centre)
Rory Scholes (Wing)

Quare amount of dead wood there, but Scholes is a loss, and I didn't think Bronson Ross went too bad at times last season. Arnold wouldn't have featured much anyway. Faloon was/is broken. Fat Nick is the most problematic absence, obviously.

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Re: Ulster 2016/2017

Post by rodders on Thu 23 Jun 2016, 10:01 am

Notch wrote:They're saying we're not going another back row.

Which is terrifying, really.

Not swapping Piatua for George Smith was a big mistake Cool

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Re: Ulster 2016/2017

Post by clivemcl on Thu 23 Jun 2016, 2:47 pm

I'm very curious if rumours were completely untrue, or if we got turned down. Maybe it's not helpful. But certainly, Nucifora's performance should be in the public light, and if its the case, I'd like to know who did we approach and did we get turned down (again)?

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Re: Ulster 2016/2017

Post by rodders on Thu 23 Jun 2016, 2:58 pm

I blame the referendum.

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Post by Munchkin on Thu 23 Jun 2016, 4:09 pm

I blame PRO12.

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Re: Ulster 2016/2017

Post by SecretFly on Thu 23 Jun 2016, 5:43 pm

I blame Hitler.

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Re: Ulster 2016/2017

Post by Notch on Thu 23 Jun 2016, 5:53 pm

SecretFly wrote:I blame Hitler.

You know the more I learn about that guy, the more I don't care for him. 

(© Norm Macdonald)

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Re: Ulster 2016/2017

Post by rodders on Wed 29 Jun 2016, 10:08 am

So looks like Piutau made it across - I hope the weather doesn't put him off.

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Post by clivemcl on Wed 29 Jun 2016, 10:13 am

He'll need to get in the gym straight away to bulk up for his number 8 shirt...

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Re: Ulster 2016/2017

Post by JmD on Wed 29 Jun 2016, 12:01 pm

Rory_Gallagher wrote:It would be good if Lorcan Dow steps up this season. Does he seem likely to do so?

Dow looked impressive in his very limited game time, not sure why he wasn't used down the stretch.

Love the Norm reference Notch, that's my next 26 minutes sorted.

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Re: Ulster 2016/2017

Post by Notch on Wed 29 Jun 2016, 12:22 pm

JmD wrote:
Rory_Gallagher wrote:It would be good if Lorcan Dow steps up this season. Does he seem likely to do so?

Dow looked impressive in his very limited game time, not sure why he wasn't used down the stretch.

Love the Norm reference Notch, that's my next 26 minutes sorted.

Fair warning; a long portion of that is Norm, Adam Get and Glbert Gottfried riffing on the Nazis and Anallingus

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Re: Ulster 2016/2017

Post by clivemcl on Fri 01 Jul 2016, 11:40 pm

https://youtu.be/Rn_iiMPwoNI

Oh and we signed a scrum half replacement for Rowley apparently - just it seemingly wasn't worth announcing.

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Re: Ulster 2016/2017

Post by Notch on Sun 03 Jul 2016, 12:05 pm

clivemcl wrote:https://youtu.be/Rn_iiMPwoNI

Oh and we signed a scrum half replacement for Rowley apparently - just it seemingly wasn't worth announcing.

I had heard about it to be fair- thought it was through an official announcement but I must have just read about it on another forum.

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Re: Ulster 2016/2017

Post by JmD on Sun 03 Jul 2016, 1:19 pm

Rumour's going about that Henry is out for a few months. Can we have that temporary signing yet, Nucifora?

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Re: Ulster 2016/2017

Post by Munchkin on Sun 03 Jul 2016, 1:29 pm

Out until the beginning of October. Not ideal, but could be worse. Nelson apparently out until Christmas.

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Re: Ulster 2016/2017

Post by Notch on Sun 03 Jul 2016, 7:36 pm

JmD wrote:Rumour's going about that Henry is out for a few months. Can we have that temporary signing yet, Nucifora?

Seriously- maybe some good will come out of it now if he does let us. Sean Reidy and Iain Henderson will be starting pre-season much, much later due to the tour.

This means Robbie Diack is now the only back rower available to Ulster for Round 1 of the Pro12 who I believe has the potential to perform to the standards of a title contending side right from the offset, and he hasn't shown that form since the season before last.

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Re: Ulster 2016/2017

Post by Pete330v2 on Mon 04 Jul 2016, 10:50 am

Holy Schmidt, are we to continue with constant injury woes? It seems we're cursed with injuries and out injury jokers too. Nucifora, wakey wakey, we need a little something to help us out here.

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Re: Ulster 2016/2017

Post by Don Alfonso on Mon 04 Jul 2016, 7:58 pm

This is going to be a really, really tough season. Dan Tuohy apparently not fixed either.

Worried about backrow and who's going to be our ten for the start of the season? Jackson and Olding won't be available for the first three weeks or a month, Nelson is injured, Humphreys is gone.

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Re: Ulster 2016/2017

Post by Notch on Mon 04 Jul 2016, 8:03 pm

Treadwell or Browne to 6?
Brett Herron or Ruan Pienaar at 10?

My bet is;

1. Black
2. Herring (c)
3. Herbst
4. Van der Merwe
5. Treadwell
6. Browne
7. Timoney/Dow (?)
8. Diack
9. Marshall
10. Pienaar
11. Stockdale (?)
12. McCloskey
13. Cave
14. Bowe (?)
15. Piutau

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Re: Ulster 2016/2017

Post by Notch on Mon 04 Jul 2016, 8:04 pm

We've put out worse on paper this time of year before.

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Re: Ulster 2016/2017

Post by trustedwomble on Mon 11 Jul 2016, 7:46 pm

It seems that Lewis Stevenson didn't get on well at Exeter...

http://www.ulsterrugby.com/news/15024.php?#.V4PokrgrLIU


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Re: Ulster 2016/2017

Post by JmD on Thu 21 Jul 2016, 12:30 pm

Herbst now out with a groin injury for potentially 4 months. The pack gets thinner; we're at the mercy of that clown of a performance director.

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Post by Pete330v2 on Thu 21 Jul 2016, 3:41 pm

I was just reading about that, bleedin bloody hell, we need a squad to start the season without huge chunks missing. I read a few comments about Tommy Bowe not looking terribly good, none of them were optimistic either Sad

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Re: Ulster 2016/2017

Post by SecretFly on Fri 22 Jul 2016, 11:25 am

Is Tommy now prolonging an inevitable announcement - like Fitz had to make? He's becoming a continuously 'broken down' player, he's 32 - there are now younger alternatives propping up every year....


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Re: Ulster 2016/2017

Post by clivemcl on Sun 31 Jul 2016, 10:00 pm

I've a real good feeling about this season boys. Because look, sure even Rory Best is saying 'we've so much more to come', and have you ever seen such confidence. - 'we are aiming for big things here'.

http://www.planetrugby.com/news/were-aiming-for-big-things-best/

This is finally it lads!

It will be so sweet to end a season without having to hear Rory say the words 'gutted' or 'regroup' or 'take a long hard look at ourselves'.

Rolling Eyes

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Re: Ulster 2016/2017

Post by marty2086 on Wed 03 Aug 2016, 3:21 pm

http://www.pro12rugby.com/news/19963.php#PzsrwmyDm5rDloG6.97


Tommy Bowe believes a new culture is being developed during pre-season at Ulster and expects it to pay dividends when the new Guinness PRO12 season kicks-off in September.

The winger is currently in Portugal with the rest of the Ulster squad preparing for the new season having managed just one appearance in the league last year.

Serious knee ligament damage sustained during Ireland's World Cup quarter-final sidelined Bowe for the majority of last season but he's slowly getting back to fitness and form.

And he said the excitement ahead of the new campaign in the camp is reaching fever pitch following the hard work completed already.

"Everyone is very enthused about what we've done so far in pre-season," he told the Belfast Telegraph.

"In the past, we've always had strong squads but we're building a new culture that I think is going to bring everything together.

"We'll put things on the line for each other and we want to do whatever we need to do.

"I'm very excited about the squad and excited by the coaches that we have here. Hopefully that will keep building in the weeks and months ahead."

Bowe bagged a brace of tries in his sole Guinness PRO12 appearance last season but the injury flared up again.

That meant he missed the season run-in which saw Ulster finish fourth before losing to Leinster in the play-off semi-final.

And while the 32-year-old says he is feeling fresh and ready to go, he won't be rushing back into action to add to his 148 Ulster league appearances.

"I think you're always eager to play and you want to be out there but you have to get yourself right," he added.

"I definitely feel refreshed. I've hardly played so I'm fresh and ready to go.

"It's just slowly building everything up and making sure not to rush things. We're progressing nicely at the minute and I'm making steps forward.

"It has been a pretty frustrating time and to miss such a chunk last season was very disappointing, especially when I thought I was in good form.

"I'm all the more excited now about the season that we have ahead. We've got Les Kiss here and he's putting in building blocks that are going to be here for a very long time."

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Post by Keesie_kee on Sun 21 Aug 2016, 1:50 pm

Where are all the Ulster fans?

Thoughts on the pre-season games.....Im trying to be positive and I know its about looking at the larger squad but to hear Kiss talk about being bullied at the breakdown sends alarms bells ringing.

Have we any strength and depth coming through at 6-8?

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Post by Munchkin on Sun 21 Aug 2016, 5:30 pm

Keesie_kee wrote:Where are all the Ulster fans?

Thoughts on the pre-season games.....Im trying to be positive and I know its about looking at the larger squad but to hear Kiss talk about being bullied at the breakdown sends alarms bells ringing.

Have we any strength and depth coming through at 6-8?

We're chillin Cool

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Re: Ulster 2016/2017

Post by clivemcl on Mon 22 Aug 2016, 7:42 am

No sweat. We gonna win everything. Nothing to talk about really...
Run

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Re: Ulster 2016/2017

Post by Rory_Gallagher on Mon 22 Aug 2016, 9:17 am

Pre-season blues. Did anyone here catch any of the friendlies? I see that Piatau played in one.

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Post by Golden on Mon 22 Aug 2016, 12:09 pm

Who did you play apart from Leinster?

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Re: Ulster 2016/2017

Post by Munchkin on Mon 22 Aug 2016, 1:20 pm

Exeter. We play Saints next week.

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Post by marty2086 on Mon 22 Aug 2016, 3:27 pm

Seen Treadwell played in the back row against Exeter, be interesting to see if thats where we will see most of him

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Re: Ulster 2016/2017

Post by Don Alfonso on Thu 25 Aug 2016, 7:15 pm

WAKEY WAKEY ULSTER FANS!

Ulster A for Canada A tomorrow evening
(15-9): D Busby; C Kelly, M Best, R Butler, A Cairns; J McPhillips, A Lloyd;
(1-8): K McCall (captain), Z McCall, C Trenier, K Treadwell, A Thompson, N Timoney, C Boomer, S Mulholland;
Replacements (16-25): A McBurney, T O'Hagan, M Lagan, P Cooper, A Burke, A Hall, M Rea, J Stewart, A Magrath, C Field.

Ulster for Northampton immediately after
(15-9): C Piutau; L Ludik, D Cave, S McCloskey, R Lyttle; B Herron, P Marshall;
(1-8): A Warwick, R Herring (captain), R Ah You, P Browne, F van der Merwe, R Diack, C Ross, R Wilson;
Replacements (16-24): J Andrew, C Black, R Kane, A O'Connor, C Joyce, M Rea, D Shanahan, S Windsor, J Stockdale.

Apparently it'll be streamed on YouTube, according to the sages on The Other Foum. Senior team will get reamed, but that's no real concern as two or three of them would be first choice starters, and Northampton have a seriously strong squad over. Nearly time for a 2016/17 Season thread.

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Post by Munchkin on Thu 25 Aug 2016, 8:07 pm

Yep, we will get hammered but, as long as Piutau isn't injured, I'm not too concerned.

It will be interesting to see if Lyttle adds to a good outing last week, and hopefully Kane has a great game when he gets a run. Apparently Rea has shown promise, so that's another to keep an eye on.

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Re: Ulster 2016/2017

Post by marty2086 on Fri 26 Aug 2016, 8:58 am

Reas playing both games?

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Post by Pete330v2 on Fri 26 Aug 2016, 12:27 pm

marty2086 wrote:Reas playing both games?

No, Matthew on the senior bench, Marcus warming the A team bench.

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Post by Munchkin on Fri 26 Aug 2016, 6:43 pm

The Saints game is live on YouTube > Ulster-v-Saints

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Re: Ulster 2016/2017

Post by Don Alfonso on Fri 26 Aug 2016, 8:22 pm

Rob Lyttle.
Dan and Tommy's commentary.

Entertaining is too small a word. But I'm wary that they're trying to trick me into believing this season...

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Post by clivemcl on Fri 26 Aug 2016, 8:32 pm

Rob Lyttle looks handy. Perhaps Ulster aren't total idiots letting Scholes go - they just knew that not only do we have plenty of depth there, but there is no danger of that position drying up in talent in the future.
Hope Scholes has a great season at Edinburgh - well apart from when he plays us!

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Post by marty2086 on Fri 26 Aug 2016, 8:50 pm

Piutau for all he has going forward, he looks just as good in defence

Lyttle is looking good, yet another quality back from the Ulster academy

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Post by clivemcl on Fri 26 Aug 2016, 9:18 pm

Charles is one class class act! I am giddy with excitement to see him play this season.

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Post by Munchkin on Fri 26 Aug 2016, 9:31 pm

That was very entertaining, and the win against my expectations. The commentary from Bowe and Tuohy was hilarious.

Piutau is sublime. The Try he created for Stockdale was a thing of beauty. Lyttle is a great prospect. A talented player, and can he kick! Also thought Rea had a good game. He looks a serious unit.

Rodney Ah You take a bow. Proving the doubters wrong with a very good game.

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Re: Ulster 2016/2017

Post by The Great Aukster on Mon 29 Aug 2016, 1:42 pm

Ludik - broken finger

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Re: Ulster 2016/2017

Post by Notch on Mon 29 Aug 2016, 2:37 pm

Feck. Well, it will mean plenty of opportunities for Lyttle and Stockdale.

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