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Post by prop_lyd on Thu 26 May 2016, 7:37 am

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Welcome to Season 8 of the Aviva Premiership fantasy rugby game.  Below are the rules of the game which must be adhered to.  If there are any situations that arise in the course of the game which are not covered by the rules, a final decision will be made by the RFU (SJE) as to how the situation will be resolved.


Senior Squads wrote:
The maximum squad size is 40 senior players.  If a team has more than 40 players in their squad then they will be fined £1 million per player over the permitted amounts per day for the first seven days. If after 7 consecutive days a team still has more than the permitted number of players then the team will be fined £2 million per player per day, and fined 1 league point per player per day for the next seven days. If after this time a team still has more than the permitted number of players in their squad, the RFU (SJE) will remove players at its discretion to bring them back under the permitted numbers. There will be no right of appeal to players being removed.

Be aware that all tier one international matches which are played during the season will count in the game, and players selected in the match day 23's for those matches will not be eligible to play for their clubs on that weekend, therefore you must give due consideration to the make-up of your squad.
Academy Rules wrote:
Each team will be allowed to have an academy squad of 23 players.  Players who are in the academy must be born on or after 1st September 1993.

Any player, who is at any Premiership club in real life, either in their senior, academy or AASE squads, can be bid for on the domestic bidding page. Players who are at your own club in real life and are coming through the academy system must be bid for if you want them in your own academy.
Transfers wrote:

  • Domestic (other AP Teams)
    Each team has a budget to use in the purchase of players. Domestic transfers between AP clubs, regardless of nationality of player, should be negotiated between the respective managers, and then confirmed on the Domestic Transfer Confirmation Page.
  • Domestic (Championship and below)
    Each team may during the season purchase no more than 5 players from the Championship or the National Leagues. Worcester Warriors & London Wasps will receive two additional bids to be used exclusively on academy age players. These players must be bid for on the National League Bidding page, and each bid will be considered by the RFU on its own merits before being accepted or rejected.  No bid will be accepted until a minimum of 24 hours has elapsed from the time the bid was made, in order to afford other managers the opportunity to make a counter bid.
  • Foreign
    To make a foreign transfer (i.e. from any club outside of the AP, regardless of whether the player is English) a bid should be made on the Foreign Transfers Page, which will be considered by the RFU against the posted guidelines for purchase prices before being accepted or rejected. No bid will be accepted until a minimum of 24 hours has elapsed from the time the bid was made, in order to afford other managers the opportunity to make a counter bid.

    There will be a summer foreign transfer window, which will run as follows.
    Player Draft
    Worcester Warriors & London Wasps will participate in a player draft beginning the week of June 22nd. Both sides will be allowed to draft two players each. The draft picks will go as follows; 1. Worcester 2. Wasps 3. Wasps 4. Worcester.

    Round Bidding
    There will be two rounds of bidding. The first window will run the week starting June 29th and the second the week starting July 3rd. All sides will be allowed to sign one player each during the window. These bids are not protected if you do not have the funds in place to bid during the window you will lose the bid.    

    Open Bidding
    From July 13th the foreign market will be open to all bids similar to previous seasons. Due to the world cup the window will remain open till the end of September.

Player Releases wrote:
Managers may choose to release players from their clubs, for which they will be offered compensation

Compensation will be paid as follows

£2 million – current international (must have played international rugby in the previous 12 months)
£1.5 million – former international
£1m – top flight experience
£0.5m – other

All released players will be deemed to have joined a Championship side and can be bid for on the National League Bidding page.
Retirements wrote:
There will be no compensation for retiring players.  Should a player who retires decide to come out of retirement and play again, then he will automatically go back to the club who he was playing for in the game when he retired.
Fixtures wrote:
There will be 22 Aviva Premiership games per season, plus the play offs. There will also be European Rugby Champions Cup, European Rugby Challenge Cup and Anglo Welsh Cup matches.  These games will take place once a week. A match thread will be put up every Monday. Home teams must be named by midnight on Tuesday. Away teams must be named by midnight on Wednesday. Failure to meet these deadlines is punishable by the addition of three match points to the oppositions final score, unless both sides fail to do so. Both teams must provide tactics by midnight on Thursday. Predictions will be open from 00:01 hours on Friday and remain open until 20:00 hours on Sunday. Managers will pm the scores that they think will happen from these games (apart from games in which they are involved).  An average of all predictions will be taken, and then 0.5 points added to each teams score for each prediction that had them as the winner, and that will then be the final score.

Managers are asked to provide detail as to why they have predicted a result.  To be considered a descriptive prediction this must be a full 3 lines long when entered into the text box.
Teams wrote:
When naming your team, not only should you put the starting XV and replacements, but also tactics that your team will employ. Results will be affected by the tactics described.

In addition, each team must have the following:-

For domestic competition at least 8 England qualified players in your match day 23, and at least 4 of those must be in your starting XV.

For European competition at least 8 England qualified players in your match day 23, and at least 6 of those must be in your starting XV.

At least 2 props and 1 hooker on the bench.

All players must be eligible (not injured or banned).

Failure to comply with these rules will result in a 1 league point deduction.

If you fail to submit a team for a match, then the other team will be automatically awarded a 30-0 bonus point win. If both teams fail to submit a team, then it will be scored as a 0-0 draw.
Injuries and Suspensions wrote:
Injuries in this game do NOT reflect real life, they will be generated by me.

Players banned in real life will be ineligible for selection in this game for the duration of the ban.

Inclusion of injured/banned players will result in them being replaced by players on the bench, and the bench not having eight players, which may result in punishment if it concerns the front-row.

Punishment for fielding an ineligible player will be loss of one match point.
Financial Rewards wrote:
There will be no rewards for the result of an individual match, instead the managers will receive cash for predicting.

£2m for descriptive predictions
£0.25m for scores on the doors predictions
Bonuses will be awarded on a scaled basis i.e. 2m for 5 games, 1.6m for 4 games and so on
If you fail to predict without first advising me that you are unable to do so that week, you will be fined £1m for a first offence, £2m for a second offence, £3m for a third offence etc upto a maximum of £5m per fine.

AP finishing positions.

Champions: 8m
Runners Up: 6m
Playoff Semi Finalist Losers: 5m
5th: 4m
6th: 3.5m
7th: 3m
8th: 2.5m
9th: 2m
10th: 1.5m
11th: 1m
12th: 0.5m

Heineken Cup

Losing Quarter Finalists - £2 million each
Losing Semi Finalists - £3 million each
Runners Up - £4 million
Champions - £5 million

Amlin Challenge Cup

Losing Quarter Finalists - £1 million each
Losing Semi Finalists - £2 million each
Runners Up - £3 million
Champions - £4 million

Anglo-Welsh Cup

Losing Semi Finalist - £1 million each
Runners Up - £2 million
Champions - £3 million


If your budgets falls below minus £10 million for any reason, the administrators (SJE) will step in and players from within your squad will be released for the relevant financial compensation (foreign transfer value) in order to bring your budget back above minus £10 million.
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Re: Season 8 Homepage V

Post by ChequeredJersey on Wed 01 Jun 2016, 7:04 pm

and is it the finishing season or the starting season bristol squad I can raid?
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Re: Season 8 Homepage V

Post by SirJohnnyEnglish on Wed 01 Jun 2016, 8:21 pm

The squad as of now mate. Use this as a reference:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bristol_Rugby#Current_squad

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Re: Season 8 Homepage V

Post by ChequeredJersey on Thu 02 Jun 2016, 2:52 am

when do academy dates formally change and can we release academy players for money before that?
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Re: Season 8 Homepage V

Post by prop_lyd on Thu 02 Jun 2016, 6:37 am

I don't think academy make money and she usually puts in a cut-off date, I'm guessing around end of August?
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Re: Season 8 Homepage V

Post by SirJohnnyEnglish on Thu 02 Jun 2016, 6:56 am

Yes you can release academy players. Normal price guide applies. Academy age limit comes in as foreigns open. As above I will lay out time lines early next week  thumbsup

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Re: Season 8 Homepage V

Post by Driver on Thu 02 Jun 2016, 4:09 pm

Pita Akhi
Paul Jordaan
JJ Engelbrect


Can all leave, I'm after a NH 8 and a back up 10
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Re: Season 8 Homepage V

Post by prop_lyd on Thu 02 Jun 2016, 6:13 pm

Ducalcon available.

Am I right that Val Ruskin is now EQ as well? Also does anyone know if Noguera Paz is injured at the moment?
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Post by dammit_chris on Thu 02 Jun 2016, 6:28 pm

Ruskin is EQ mate, pretty sure he moved over here when he was a youngster, he represented Georgia at u18 level but has since said he'd want to play for England. Good player too.

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Re: Season 8 Homepage V

Post by Guest on Sat 04 Jun 2016, 12:56 am

Anyone off to u20 wc games ?

I am off on holiday to my place in Spain for 2 weeks from Wednesday so will miss attending it.

Also with euro football on worry the tournament may attract few spectators.


Wales,NZ, SA, Ireland, Aus England and the usual suspects have a few diamonds.

Worst England side for a while but a young one that many will be back next year so just a transition year it happens. In my year none of us did anything in the game bar national leagues but year above had vickery,Greening , Woodman etc year below had worsley,Perry, long Sampson and year after Buxton, Hazell, Tindall etc.

Like wines not every vintage not great. In my time England age groups were under 18s, 19s(colts) and under 21s

Now it's under 18s in to pro academy and u20s. actually played men's rugby for 4ths at age 14 against Mike Teague( ex British lion but very much not interested in game we played but helping out his junior club). Now quite rightly kids cannot play senior rugby.

Welsh 8 and prop look really good for
U20s and Ireland have a few good lads of the home lot

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Re: Season 8 Homepage V

Post by dammit_chris on Sat 04 Jun 2016, 7:56 am

Mallinder and Williams should make a big difference for England, we've got a few good players but we look a little under powered in the pack compared to previous years.

Wales look like they could be the strongest NH team, but the French back three are very good and Penaud at no13 could be one of the best players in the tournament. Aussies look in with a good shout as well.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly on Sat 04 Jun 2016, 9:48 am

Agree on those two English guys, could make an impact.

When you think the side has lost Hill, Genge and Itoje who have all stepped up for full caps within the year. The system is certainly working.

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Re: Season 8 Homepage V

Post by prop_lyd on Sat 04 Jun 2016, 10:04 am

Am I right in thinking that this is one of the only weekend's in a year without any union games?!
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Post by SirJohnnyEnglish on Sat 04 Jun 2016, 10:06 am

Top 14 still going Prop  Whistle

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Post by SirJohnnyEnglish on Sat 04 Jun 2016, 10:09 am

English backline looks a whole different unit to the u20s 6 nations. Mallinder, Williams, Brophy Clews and Marchent all coming in.

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Re: Season 8 Homepage V

Post by prop_lyd on Sat 04 Jun 2016, 10:23 am

Ah cool so still something to watch then!!
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Re: Season 8 Homepage V

Post by Guest on Sat 04 Jun 2016, 10:32 am

prop_lyd wrote:Am I right in thinking that this is one of the only weekend's in a year without any union games?!


I was thinking the same. Just rewatched the World Cup final

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Re: Season 8 Homepage V

Post by Guest on Sun 05 Jun 2016, 12:55 am

Alberts du Preez Sam davies, de Jongh, moriarty etc for sale

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Re: Season 8 Homepage V

Post by dammit_chris on Mon 06 Jun 2016, 12:26 pm

Does anyone have Maitland in this game at all, or Mitch Lees?

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Re: Season 8 Homepage V

Post by BamBam on Mon 06 Jun 2016, 12:35 pm

Luke has Maitland, Lees is up for grabs in releases ..

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Re: Season 8 Homepage V

Post by dammit_chris on Mon 06 Jun 2016, 12:48 pm

Cheers! Lees would be a very good signing, he's improved a lot for Exeter last season.

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Re: Season 8 Homepage V

Post by dammit_chris on Tue 07 Jun 2016, 8:21 am

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/rugby-union/2016/06/06/chris-robshaw-in-peril-as-eddie-jones-ponders-maro-itoje-switch/

Thought Jones might go for that - bit more dynamism with Itoje at no6, which we need on the hard pitches

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Post by Sgt_Pooly on Tue 07 Jun 2016, 8:29 am

It'll be interesting to see if it's just mind games or we'll actually go for this. I'm not sure I'd have went with Itoje at 6, I'd have preferred the added pace of Clifford I think.

Launchbury deserves a shpt after his last performance though and neither of the Sarries lads can be dropped.

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Post by BamBam on Tue 07 Jun 2016, 8:32 am

I'm not keen on it, think having 3 locks in the pack when we're facing Pocock and Hooper is a mistake, regardless of how good Itoje and Launchbury can be at the ruck.

A back row of Itoje, Haskell and Billy is just too slow for anything other than Murrayfield in February

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Post by Sgt_Pooly on Tue 07 Jun 2016, 8:33 am

I tend to agree Bam. It's a very big pack, I can only assume we're looking to bully them rather than try and play it their way i.e a fast game.

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Post by Fluxy on Tue 07 Jun 2016, 8:49 am

It seems that the thinking is to practically guarantee our ball by physical bashing everyone off it. But I tend to agree that against ABs and the Ozzies we need to be blending that with some pace. Not to say Itoje and launchbury are slow, but having someone like Clifford or Harrison in there would help combat the potential Poopahon combination.

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Post by dammit_chris on Tue 07 Jun 2016, 9:43 am

Itoje is pretty quick though, he's faster than Robshaw and played a lot of rugby for Sarries as a no6. In terms of lineout we effectively shut down Australia who can be got at there.

I'd prefer Clifford due to his pace, but at the same time Jones probably realises we don't have the players to properly compete against Pocock and Hooper, so playing to our strengths.

Against Wales we played a more adventurous game, but can see Jones as the sort that could stick with Ford and Farrell at 10-12 (let's not start the whole Ford is rubbish thing as that's been done to death), so with them there'll be quite a bit of tactical kicking out of hand. Be interesting.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly on Tue 07 Jun 2016, 10:21 am

I wouldn't say Itoje is flanker quick but either are Robshaw or Pocock.

Ford is anything but rubbish but he's in absolutely desperate form and not likely to improve. If Te'o is fit I'd expect him to start tbh.

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Re: Season 8 Homepage V

Post by BamBam on Tue 07 Jun 2016, 10:39 am

If we start with the big pack, I think we have to start with multiple tactical kickers, so 2 of Ford/Farrell/Goode ( vomit ) have to start

We'd have to go and control territory, wouldn't want to be chasing them round the park

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Post by Sgt_Pooly on Tue 07 Jun 2016, 1:23 pm

Available for deals:

PR Ben Franks (New Zealand)
PR Xavier Chiocci (France)
PR Jannie Du Plessis (South Africa)
PR Tomas Francis (England)
LK Geoff Parling (England)
LK Bradley Davies (Wales)
LK Patrick Tuipultou (New Zealand)
LK Patricio Albacete (Argentina)
FL James Haskell (England)
FL Thierry Dusatoir (France)
FL Teimana Harrison (England)
FL John Hardie (Scotland)
FL Will Fraser (England)
FL Heinrich Brussow (South Africa)
N8 Dave Denton (Scotland)

SH Brad Weber (New Zealand)
SH Lee Dickson (England)
FH Pat Lambie (South Africa)
FH Tom Taylor (New Zealand)
CE Marcelo Bosch (Argentina)
CE Maxime Mermoz (France)
CE Henry Trinder (England)
WG George North (Wales)
WG Chris Ashton (England)
WG Hosea Gear (New Zealand)

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Re: Season 8 Homepage V

Post by SirJohnnyEnglish on Tue 07 Jun 2016, 2:34 pm

Not sure if anyone has him but Benn Robinson has retired: http://www.the42.ie/benn-robinson-retire-eye-surgery-2809650-Jun2016/

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Post by ChequeredJersey on Tue 07 Jun 2016, 5:18 pm

I assume Jones is planning to win the breakdown battle more with making their backrow tackle, clearing out and offloading. In which case the backrow makes a bit of sense, but I think we lack any real link players or pace. It's a calculated risk, I think he'll play Robshaw/Harrison and Clifford on the bench to bring on as needed in case it doesn't work.


Anyway, the worst thing about the suspected team for the first test is starting Youngs, IMO
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Post by Fluxy on Tue 07 Jun 2016, 5:28 pm

Agree with you there CJ. Youngs starting would be a problem for us and Ford if he starts.

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Post by Driver on Tue 07 Jun 2016, 5:35 pm

I think we'll more than likely see Youngs , Farrell and Te'o play this week.
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Post by Sgt_Pooly on Tue 07 Jun 2016, 5:43 pm

I don't think we can blame Ford's poor form in Youngs, he's been like that all season.

I've no issue with Care or Youngs starting with Farrell. It's a shame Robson didn't get a spot really.

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Post by Fluxy on Tue 07 Jun 2016, 5:46 pm

I wasn't blaming Ford's form on Youngs, I was stating it wouldn't help him. 

Youngs has this affinity of trying to draw a man onto a pass/line, which really does hurt some play, it's quite slow at points. When he wants to speed it up, his overall game is dangerous, just seems a little cumbersome

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Re: Season 8 Homepage V

Post by SirJohnnyEnglish on Wed 08 Jun 2016, 11:11 am

Hey guys looking for opinions on an academy player. How do people rate Joshua Tuisova currently?

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Post by Steven_Sharks on Wed 08 Jun 2016, 11:44 am

Good with ball in hand but limited positionally and kicking wise.

Good in the right side with creativity all around him.

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Post by Fluxy on Wed 08 Jun 2016, 12:37 pm

5 Mike Haley, 14 Alex Lewington, 13 Nick Tompkins, 12 Ollie Devoto, 11 Semesa Rokoduguni, 10 Danny Cipriani, 9 Dan Robson, 8 Sam Jones, 7 Matt Kvesic, 6 Don Armand, 5 Charlie Ewels, 4 Dave Attwood (c), 3 Kieran Brookes, 2 Tommy Taylor, 1 Alec Hepburn
Replacements: 16 George McGuigan, 17 Ross Harrison, 18 Jake Cooper-Woolley, 19 Mitch Lees, 20 Dave Ewers, 21 Micky Young, 22 Sam James, 23 Christian Wade



South Africa ‘A’: 15 Leolin Zas, 14 Travis Ismaiel, 13 Francois Venter, 12 Howard Mnisi, 11 Courtnall Skosan, 10 Garth April, 9 Nic Groom, 8 Nizaam Carr, 7 Oupa Mohoje (c), 6 Sikhumbuzo Notshe, 5 Stephan Lewies, 4 JD Schickerling, 3 Vincent Koch, 2 Scarra Ntubeni, 1 Thomas du Toit
Replacements: 16 Malcolm Marx, 17 Lizo Gqoboka, 18 Coenie Oosthuizen, 19 RG Snyman, 20 Jean-Luc du Preez, 21 Piet van Zyl, 22 Francois Brummer, 23 Lukhanyo Am



I like the look of it, not sure our back row will compete man for for in terms of strength and pace. But they are grafters, 

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Post by BamBam on Wed 08 Jun 2016, 12:38 pm

SA backline looks pretty rubbish

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Post by Sgt_Pooly on Wed 08 Jun 2016, 1:00 pm

i don't think either side looks particularly impressive tbh. Oosthuizen has certainly slipped down the ranks, he could have been a world class LH but SA have basically ruined him.

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Post by Fluxy on Wed 08 Jun 2016, 1:02 pm

Isn't that essentially because they wanted him to play TH? I suspect he struggled with law changes as well.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly on Wed 08 Jun 2016, 2:03 pm

A bit of both I suspect Flux, great prospect at one point.

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Post by Fluxy on Wed 08 Jun 2016, 2:14 pm

Some reports that the ozzies are going to start Rory Arnold, and use his height to combat the line out.

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Re: Season 8 Homepage V

Post by ChequeredJersey on Wed 08 Jun 2016, 5:16 pm

Fluxy wrote:Some reports that the ozzies are going to start Rory Arnold, and use his height to combat the line out.

Good luck to them
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Re: Season 8 Homepage V

Post by dammit_chris on Wed 08 Jun 2016, 8:36 pm

After a back up hooker, lineout jumping lock and some halfbacks who are available all year round. Any for sale at all lads?

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Re: Season 8 Homepage V

Post by ChequeredJersey on Wed 08 Jun 2016, 9:03 pm

Charteris an option
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Re: Season 8 Homepage V

Post by ChequeredJersey on Wed 08 Jun 2016, 9:03 pm

Just need to sort through the details of the deal
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Re: Season 8 Homepage V

Post by Guest on Wed 08 Jun 2016, 10:32 pm

http://www.planetrugby.com/news/savea-and-tamanivalu-named-in-all-black-squad/

NZ as expected but with a dynamic inexperienced bench.
Great backline.

Crotty, Fekitoa, naholo, savea and Ben smith all in electric form. Surprised Sopoanga not in side. Form 10 with cruden just behind if you based form on super rugby.

Looking forward to seeing Ardie Savea come on he has been excellent all year. Taminavalu whilst being raw and not the finished product has serious threat and is one for the future also.

They lose nonuand smith yet still retain great depth at centre. Lack of experience though but wales will offer little threat based on there current form.

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Re: Season 8 Homepage V

Post by Guest on Wed 08 Jun 2016, 10:42 pm

Still
Have Aki Ngatai SBW and others also. Depth is insane in all backline positions

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Re: Season 8 Homepage V

Post by prop_lyd on Thu 09 Jun 2016, 6:38 am

Current form? We have lost 2 games, one because we were slow off the mark and one pointless friendly.

Whilst we may not smash Nz I think our experience will at least show some threat! No one in wales is really exppecting to win but I wouldn't be surprised if we ran them very very close in at least.one of the games.
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