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Season 8 Homepage V

Post by prop_lyd on Thu 26 May 2016, 7:37 am

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Welcome to Season 8 of the Aviva Premiership fantasy rugby game.  Below are the rules of the game which must be adhered to.  If there are any situations that arise in the course of the game which are not covered by the rules, a final decision will be made by the RFU (SJE) as to how the situation will be resolved.


Senior Squads wrote:
The maximum squad size is 40 senior players.  If a team has more than 40 players in their squad then they will be fined £1 million per player over the permitted amounts per day for the first seven days. If after 7 consecutive days a team still has more than the permitted number of players then the team will be fined £2 million per player per day, and fined 1 league point per player per day for the next seven days. If after this time a team still has more than the permitted number of players in their squad, the RFU (SJE) will remove players at its discretion to bring them back under the permitted numbers. There will be no right of appeal to players being removed.

Be aware that all tier one international matches which are played during the season will count in the game, and players selected in the match day 23's for those matches will not be eligible to play for their clubs on that weekend, therefore you must give due consideration to the make-up of your squad.
Academy Rules wrote:
Each team will be allowed to have an academy squad of 23 players.  Players who are in the academy must be born on or after 1st September 1993.

Any player, who is at any Premiership club in real life, either in their senior, academy or AASE squads, can be bid for on the domestic bidding page. Players who are at your own club in real life and are coming through the academy system must be bid for if you want them in your own academy.
Transfers wrote:

  • Domestic (other AP Teams)
    Each team has a budget to use in the purchase of players. Domestic transfers between AP clubs, regardless of nationality of player, should be negotiated between the respective managers, and then confirmed on the Domestic Transfer Confirmation Page.
  • Domestic (Championship and below)
    Each team may during the season purchase no more than 5 players from the Championship or the National Leagues. Worcester Warriors & London Wasps will receive two additional bids to be used exclusively on academy age players. These players must be bid for on the National League Bidding page, and each bid will be considered by the RFU on its own merits before being accepted or rejected.  No bid will be accepted until a minimum of 24 hours has elapsed from the time the bid was made, in order to afford other managers the opportunity to make a counter bid.
  • Foreign
    To make a foreign transfer (i.e. from any club outside of the AP, regardless of whether the player is English) a bid should be made on the Foreign Transfers Page, which will be considered by the RFU against the posted guidelines for purchase prices before being accepted or rejected. No bid will be accepted until a minimum of 24 hours has elapsed from the time the bid was made, in order to afford other managers the opportunity to make a counter bid.

    There will be a summer foreign transfer window, which will run as follows.
    Player Draft
    Worcester Warriors & London Wasps will participate in a player draft beginning the week of June 22nd. Both sides will be allowed to draft two players each. The draft picks will go as follows; 1. Worcester 2. Wasps 3. Wasps 4. Worcester.

    Round Bidding
    There will be two rounds of bidding. The first window will run the week starting June 29th and the second the week starting July 3rd. All sides will be allowed to sign one player each during the window. These bids are not protected if you do not have the funds in place to bid during the window you will lose the bid.    

    Open Bidding
    From July 13th the foreign market will be open to all bids similar to previous seasons. Due to the world cup the window will remain open till the end of September.

Player Releases wrote:
Managers may choose to release players from their clubs, for which they will be offered compensation

Compensation will be paid as follows

£2 million – current international (must have played international rugby in the previous 12 months)
£1.5 million – former international
£1m – top flight experience
£0.5m – other

All released players will be deemed to have joined a Championship side and can be bid for on the National League Bidding page.
Retirements wrote:
There will be no compensation for retiring players.  Should a player who retires decide to come out of retirement and play again, then he will automatically go back to the club who he was playing for in the game when he retired.
Fixtures wrote:
There will be 22 Aviva Premiership games per season, plus the play offs. There will also be European Rugby Champions Cup, European Rugby Challenge Cup and Anglo Welsh Cup matches.  These games will take place once a week. A match thread will be put up every Monday. Home teams must be named by midnight on Tuesday. Away teams must be named by midnight on Wednesday. Failure to meet these deadlines is punishable by the addition of three match points to the oppositions final score, unless both sides fail to do so. Both teams must provide tactics by midnight on Thursday. Predictions will be open from 00:01 hours on Friday and remain open until 20:00 hours on Sunday. Managers will pm the scores that they think will happen from these games (apart from games in which they are involved).  An average of all predictions will be taken, and then 0.5 points added to each teams score for each prediction that had them as the winner, and that will then be the final score.

Managers are asked to provide detail as to why they have predicted a result.  To be considered a descriptive prediction this must be a full 3 lines long when entered into the text box.
Teams wrote:
When naming your team, not only should you put the starting XV and replacements, but also tactics that your team will employ. Results will be affected by the tactics described.

In addition, each team must have the following:-

For domestic competition at least 8 England qualified players in your match day 23, and at least 4 of those must be in your starting XV.

For European competition at least 8 England qualified players in your match day 23, and at least 6 of those must be in your starting XV.

At least 2 props and 1 hooker on the bench.

All players must be eligible (not injured or banned).

Failure to comply with these rules will result in a 1 league point deduction.

If you fail to submit a team for a match, then the other team will be automatically awarded a 30-0 bonus point win. If both teams fail to submit a team, then it will be scored as a 0-0 draw.
Injuries and Suspensions wrote:
Injuries in this game do NOT reflect real life, they will be generated by me.

Players banned in real life will be ineligible for selection in this game for the duration of the ban.

Inclusion of injured/banned players will result in them being replaced by players on the bench, and the bench not having eight players, which may result in punishment if it concerns the front-row.

Punishment for fielding an ineligible player will be loss of one match point.
Financial Rewards wrote:
There will be no rewards for the result of an individual match, instead the managers will receive cash for predicting.

£2m for descriptive predictions
£0.25m for scores on the doors predictions
Bonuses will be awarded on a scaled basis i.e. 2m for 5 games, 1.6m for 4 games and so on
If you fail to predict without first advising me that you are unable to do so that week, you will be fined £1m for a first offence, £2m for a second offence, £3m for a third offence etc upto a maximum of £5m per fine.

AP finishing positions.

Champions: 8m
Runners Up: 6m
Playoff Semi Finalist Losers: 5m
5th: 4m
6th: 3.5m
7th: 3m
8th: 2.5m
9th: 2m
10th: 1.5m
11th: 1m
12th: 0.5m

Heineken Cup

Losing Quarter Finalists - £2 million each
Losing Semi Finalists - £3 million each
Runners Up - £4 million
Champions - £5 million

Amlin Challenge Cup

Losing Quarter Finalists - £1 million each
Losing Semi Finalists - £2 million each
Runners Up - £3 million
Champions - £4 million

Anglo-Welsh Cup

Losing Semi Finalist - £1 million each
Runners Up - £2 million
Champions - £3 million


If your budgets falls below minus £10 million for any reason, the administrators (SJE) will step in and players from within your squad will be released for the relevant financial compensation (foreign transfer value) in order to bring your budget back above minus £10 million.

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Re: Season 8 Homepage V

Post by Sgt_Pooly on Tue 14 Jun 2016, 7:01 am

Savea has been very hit and miss this season, North tortured him at times on Saturday but he's a class act and will come through it.

AB midfield was poor. Crotty is not an AB centre, he just doesn't offer enough and threw some shocking passes. Fekitoa did ok, his distribution is improving all the time, he just needs a 12 or 13 to gel with.

I though Cane played well tbh. Not massively convinced with Savea, but he added impact from the bench which is all they wanted really. It's a real time of change for New Zealand, I think they'll get beat a few times this year.

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Re: Season 8 Homepage V

Post by Fluxy on Tue 14 Jun 2016, 8:21 am

Chiefs Wales is a good game. Chiefs giving the Welsh lads in taking their opportunities, quick and clean ball presentation and playing with pace

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Re: Season 8 Homepage V

Post by prop_lyd on Tue 14 Jun 2016, 8:25 am

Well this is slightly embarrassing. Plus, I know it's good for the chiefs to have a game.like this but due.to injuries we are risking players we don't need to risk by.playing Warbs and having Roberts.on the bench.

Wonder if this tour could be the end of the road for Gats? First time I've thought this since he took.over.

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Re: Season 8 Homepage V

Post by dammit_chris on Tue 14 Jun 2016, 9:21 am

I'd go with these ratings for NZ players - I'm just not sure on Cane, he plays with a great pack but haven't seen anything that makes me think he can become a WC player - Savea seems to have something about him, just needs to work on becoming cleverer at the breakdown.

http://m.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=11655098

Seen a few people mention that about Gats this week Prop, can't believe he drafted in Warburton to the starting lineup! And Chiefs are winning that comfortably.

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Re: Season 8 Homepage V

Post by Sgt_Pooly on Tue 14 Jun 2016, 9:32 am

Pretty spot on ratings, slightly harsh on Cane who I thought did ok. I always thought Cane lacked a bit physically but he's stepped up the last few years.

Ryan Crotty 5

Ordinary by the best No. 12 standards, and always will be. North turned him into doormat late.

Pretty much sums Crotty up in one sentence. Always like the guy but he's better at 13. Can see why AB's have broke the bank for SBW.

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Re: Season 8 Homepage V

Post by Steven_Sharks on Tue 14 Jun 2016, 10:27 am

That's a humping without Retallick, Cane, Cruden, Ngatai, Tamanivalu and McKenzie who are the main men for the Chiefs.

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Re: Season 8 Homepage V

Post by BamBam on Tue 14 Jun 2016, 10:37 am

Oh dear Laugh

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Re: Season 8 Homepage V

Post by Sgt_Pooly on Tue 14 Jun 2016, 10:44 am

That's awful

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Re: Season 8 Homepage V

Post by Fluxy on Tue 14 Jun 2016, 10:45 am

Still a good few lads in that side: Boshier, Bird, Lowe, Weber, Lienert-Brown and to a lesser extent Donald!

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Re: Season 8 Homepage V

Post by Sgt_Pooly on Tue 14 Jun 2016, 11:12 am

Donald Laugh

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Re: Season 8 Homepage V

Post by Fluxy on Wed 15 Jun 2016, 11:22 am

Australia: 15 Israel Folau, 14 Dane Haylett-Petty, 13 Tevita Kuridrani, 12 Samu Kerevi, 11 Rob Horne, 10 Bernard Foley, 9 Nick Phipps, 8 Sean McMahon, 7 Michael Hooper, 6 Scott Fardy, 5 Sam Carter, 4 Rory Arnold, 3 Sekope Kepu, 2 Stephen Moore (c), 1 James Slipper
Replacements (three to be omitted): Tatafu Polota-Nau, Toby Smith, Greg Holmes, James Horwill, Dean Mumm, Wycliff Palu, Ben McCalman, Liam Gill, Nick Frisby, Christian Leali'ifano, Luke Morahan
Interesting line up, I do think they should drop Arnold and put Horwill, or Mumm in. Arnold didn't do a lot for in my mind. Surprised they aren't lookings towards a Mcmahon, Hooper, McCalman back row, for me that has the hallmarks of a good modern day back row.

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Re: Season 8 Homepage V

Post by Sgt_Pooly on Wed 15 Jun 2016, 11:25 am

A weakened pack.

That backrow is certainly quick but it's not going to be great in the tight.

Same tactics....keep it tight, play the percentages, smash them at the breakdown.

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Re: Season 8 Homepage V

Post by Steven_Sharks on Wed 15 Jun 2016, 11:30 am

Robshaw still easily the poorest backrow on show.

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Re: Season 8 Homepage V

Post by Fluxy on Wed 15 Jun 2016, 11:31 am

I don't know, between him and Fardy.

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Re: Season 8 Homepage V

Post by Sgt_Pooly on Wed 15 Jun 2016, 11:35 am

I was happy to see Robshaw dropped last week but I thought he played well tbh.

Essentially we need more pace in the backrow at some point, hopefully Clifford will make the bench.

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Re: Season 8 Homepage V

Post by Sgt_Pooly on Wed 15 Jun 2016, 11:38 am

Sio completley dropped Shocked

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Re: Season 8 Homepage V

Post by Steven_Sharks on Wed 15 Jun 2016, 12:05 pm

Fardy is top quality. How he isn't in this league is beyond me. I rate him in the top 5 blindsides in the world.

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Re: Season 8 Homepage V

Post by BamBam on Wed 15 Jun 2016, 12:08 pm

I've come close to signing him in foreigns a couple of times, but his age has been putting me off

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Re: Season 8 Homepage V

Post by Fluxy on Wed 15 Jun 2016, 12:32 pm

I wouldn't say he is top 5, he very handy, but there are more effective blindsides around.

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Re: Season 8 Homepage V

Post by dammit_chris on Wed 15 Jun 2016, 12:48 pm

Sio took a bit of a hiding from Cole, so not surprised to see him dropped there apart from the guy they've replaced him with could get a hiding from Cole as well...

Very surprised that Leali'ifano isn't starting in the game, the Aussies rely far too much on Foley to kick as their no9 doesnt have a great kicking game at all and 12/13 have zero kicking between them. He'd make a big difference.

Any predicted changes for England? Can't see any in the pack, whilst Ford/Farrell combination should come back and Brown's place must be under a bit of threat from Goode.

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Re: Season 8 Homepage V

Post by Sgt_Pooly on Wed 15 Jun 2016, 12:51 pm

Very strange for Aus to stick with the same midfield and it didn't really work.

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Re: Season 8 Homepage V

Post by Guest on Wed 15 Jun 2016, 3:07 pm

As bad a player Simmons is I
Would have dropped Arnold and had carter and Simmons. Lock is an issue for Australia and Skelton has disappeared and not progressed.

Agree the Aussie midfield did not work. Kerevi a talent but not a 12. Need a play maker.

Leilfano would offer much more balance and help out foley who
Is an awful kicker. Like leilifano he is a rhythm kicker and can go from brilliant to awful as technique is not sound.

I like sio but his technique last week was pub level. He is better than that and a potential proper player.

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Re: Season 8 Homepage V

Post by ChequeredJersey on Wed 15 Jun 2016, 3:37 pm

Steven_Sharks wrote:Robshaw still easily the poorest backrow on show.

I know he's mine and I'm known to be a fan, but I strongly disagree. Don't think,. now that Pocock is out, any of the backrow bar Billy stand out in class above the others. All are top class Ints, inc Robshaw, just good at different things. For Hooper, that's being a back in disguise, for Haskell it's being a physical carrier and hitter, for Robshaw it is his workrate and his touches everywhere on the field. For me, both the backrows on show are strong and somewhat underrated too. This English backrow has now outplayed highly vaunted players from all 5 other 6N countries and Aus.


Fardy is very good too

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Re: Season 8 Homepage V

Post by Guest on Wed 15 Jun 2016, 5:46 pm

Fardy is excellent and the glue of Aussie backrow. He is a players player. Superb technician and world class in my opinion.

Robshaw is a honest trier for me. Not near the class of fardy. He typified Lancaster regime but we have nobody else ready yet.

We have had a poor vintage of 6s and 7s for a while. Haskell was great last week but generally has been a poor international when starting. Different story as an impact sub though. He also seems to have stopped the brainless penalties albeit ten years too late lol.

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Re: Season 8 Homepage V

Post by Sgt_Pooly on Wed 15 Jun 2016, 6:00 pm

Fardy is a good option, I'd have him at a similar level to Robshaw.

Haskell hasn't been "a generally poor International". He's either had a great game or a poor/invisable one. He's been a very inconsistent international player. Under Jones, he's been generally very good.

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Re: Season 8 Homepage V

Post by Sgt_Pooly on Wed 15 Jun 2016, 6:57 pm

Romano & Savea drop out of the squad.

ALL BLACKS: Israel Dagg, Ben Smith, Malakai Fekitoa, Ryan Crotty, Waisake Naholo, Aaron Cruden, Aaron Smith, Kieran Read (c), Sam Cane, Jerome Kaino, Brodie Retallick, Samuel Whitelock, Owen Franks, Dane Coles, Joe Moody.

Reserves: Nathan Harris, Wyatt Crockett, Charlie Faumuina, Patrick Tuipulotu, Ardie Savea, TJ Perenara, Beauden Barrett, Seta Tamanivalu.

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Re: Season 8 Homepage V

Post by Steven_Sharks on Wed 15 Jun 2016, 7:26 pm

Wales under 20s have a had a nightmare in this JWC. I thought they were going to win the thing the way they went on after beating England in the 6N

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Re: Season 8 Homepage V

Post by ChequeredJersey on Wed 15 Jun 2016, 7:59 pm

Mattieu Tanguy looks good

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Re: Season 8 Homepage V

Post by ChequeredJersey on Wed 15 Jun 2016, 8:00 pm

I hope if NZ beat Wales again they blood the likes of McKenzie in T3

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Post by dammit_chris on Wed 15 Jun 2016, 9:56 pm

Know what you mean Steve, thought they'd be a lot better - have been v impressed with England though, Mallinder made a huge difference along with the London Irish no12 - Marchant looks blooming good too.

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Re: Season 8 Homepage V

Post by Guest on Wed 15 Jun 2016, 10:30 pm

Great to see Dagg back. On form the best in the world by a distance.

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Post by Guest on Wed 15 Jun 2016, 10:33 pm

Off form not far off Andy Goode lol

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Post by ChequeredJersey on Thu 16 Jun 2016, 12:52 am

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/rugby-union/2016/06/13/international-team-of-the-weekend/taulupe-faletau0/

says a lot about the different but undeniable quality of the weekend's matches that these best XVs vary so much!

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Post by Sgt_Pooly on Thu 16 Jun 2016, 7:07 am

anonmattyt wrote:Great to see Dagg back. On form the best in the world by a distance.

I can't agree with that.

We've not really seen Dagg "on form" for a number of years so it's hard to say what his actual level is currently. If you're going to say he's on form then you have to really say the other top full backs are playing well also. If this is the case, I certainly wouldn't have him the best FB "by a distance". I'd say Ben Smith was a level up, then you have the other options like WLR, Kearney, Hogg, Halfpenny, Folau etc, who have been better than Dagg over the years.

Dagg has certainly looked better than previous seasons at Super level, but he needs a good run for the AB's to gauge if he's anywhere near his from 3/4 seasons back.

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Re: Season 8 Homepage V

Post by prop_lyd on Thu 16 Jun 2016, 10:06 am

So we decide to put Patchell at fullback?!?! Here comes a rout!!

Re: The under 20s. It is quite disappointing bearing in mind we took the g.s but we were without a few for nz game including the captain, Beard. Got nz in playoff now too!!

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Re: Season 8 Homepage V

Post by Sgt_Pooly on Thu 16 Jun 2016, 10:09 am

Farrell at 12 and Nowell in for Yarde the changes.

George,Daly and Clifford come onto the bench. We've went for 6/2 split.

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Re: Season 8 Homepage V

Post by Sgt_Pooly on Thu 16 Jun 2016, 10:57 am

Legend!

https://youtu.be/XEGmGeoMosg

https://youtu.be/fNXmPH3WrG4

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Re: Season 8 Homepage V

Post by dammit_chris on Thu 16 Jun 2016, 1:12 pm

Jones certainly isn't afraid to make changes then, good to see those three come onto the bench, there was a lot of talk about Teo'o getting a bench spot. Good thing with Daly is that he covers 12-15.

Yarde didnt do too much wrong in the game, but Nowell's workrate is so much more impressive so not overly surprised by that. Lot of impact in the forwards off that bench too - Aussies won't know what's hit them Smile

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Re: Season 8 Homepage V

Post by Sgt_Pooly on Thu 16 Jun 2016, 1:24 pm

Rumours that Daly has been training at 15 a lot. I hope this is true, he could be a real weapon there.

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Re: Season 8 Homepage V

Post by Sgt_Pooly on Thu 16 Jun 2016, 8:48 pm

Cole & Haskell potentially available, looking for top class EQ back in a deal.

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Post by ChequeredJersey on Thu 16 Jun 2016, 8:51 pm

would do but don't think I have the EQ quality you want

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Re: Season 8 Homepage V

Post by Fluxy on Fri 17 Jun 2016, 3:11 pm

Tumbleweed

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Re: Season 8 Homepage V

Post by Sgt_Pooly on Sat 18 Jun 2016, 8:51 am

Why does JD kick away every bit of ball he gets? It must be 4 times in the first 12 mins.

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Re: Season 8 Homepage V

Post by Guest on Sat 18 Jun 2016, 9:27 am

Great play wales. JD straight through a poor Barrett tackle.

Sets it up
Nicely although NZ will pull away last 20
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Dagg having a stormer.

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Re: Season 8 Homepage V

Post by Sgt_Pooly on Sat 18 Jun 2016, 9:34 am

Dagg is doing ok, certaibly not having a stormer. I don't think anyone is playing that well, quite a scrappy game.

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Re: Season 8 Homepage V

Post by Sgt_Pooly on Sat 18 Jun 2016, 9:53 am

Fantastic from Barrett, such a talent.

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Re: Season 8 Homepage V

Post by Sgt_Pooly on Sat 18 Jun 2016, 9:58 am

Carter who?

Now Barrett is having a stormer! He's ripping Wales to bits.

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Re: Season 8 Homepage V

Post by BamBam on Sat 18 Jun 2016, 10:00 am

JD has had a poor game outside of his role in that try

Poor kicking, kicking way too often and awful in defence a few times

I'm not sure why the commentators are hyping Dagg up so much

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Re: Season 8 Homepage V

Post by Sgt_Pooly on Sat 18 Jun 2016, 10:02 am

Dagg has done nothing really of note, pretty easy finish for the try. He's having a decent game though, nothing special.

Barrett is lighting this game up, Ben Smith has been impressive too(as always).

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Re: Season 8 Homepage V

Post by Sgt_Pooly on Sat 18 Jun 2016, 10:08 am

Liam Williams loves a good dive.

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