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Season 8 Homepage V

Post by prop_lyd on Thu May 26, 2016 8:37 am

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6London Irish2211011547561-14394121056
7Worcester Warriors 229211536554-18424611152
8Gloucester   *2210012534550-16434201251
9Bath Rugby227312534551-17424801246
10Leicester Tigers227114520554-34314401343
11Exeter Chiefs  **224216518577-59355001432
12London Wasps222020479578-99265501422


Welcome to Season 8 of the Aviva Premiership fantasy rugby game.  Below are the rules of the game which must be adhered to.  If there are any situations that arise in the course of the game which are not covered by the rules, a final decision will be made by the RFU (SJE) as to how the situation will be resolved.


Senior Squads wrote:
The maximum squad size is 40 senior players.  If a team has more than 40 players in their squad then they will be fined £1 million per player over the permitted amounts per day for the first seven days. If after 7 consecutive days a team still has more than the permitted number of players then the team will be fined £2 million per player per day, and fined 1 league point per player per day for the next seven days. If after this time a team still has more than the permitted number of players in their squad, the RFU (SJE) will remove players at its discretion to bring them back under the permitted numbers. There will be no right of appeal to players being removed.

Be aware that all tier one international matches which are played during the season will count in the game, and players selected in the match day 23's for those matches will not be eligible to play for their clubs on that weekend, therefore you must give due consideration to the make-up of your squad.
Academy Rules wrote:
Each team will be allowed to have an academy squad of 23 players.  Players who are in the academy must be born on or after 1st September 1993.

Any player, who is at any Premiership club in real life, either in their senior, academy or AASE squads, can be bid for on the domestic bidding page. Players who are at your own club in real life and are coming through the academy system must be bid for if you want them in your own academy.
Transfers wrote:

  • Domestic (other AP Teams)
    Each team has a budget to use in the purchase of players. Domestic transfers between AP clubs, regardless of nationality of player, should be negotiated between the respective managers, and then confirmed on the Domestic Transfer Confirmation Page.
  • Domestic (Championship and below)
    Each team may during the season purchase no more than 5 players from the Championship or the National Leagues. Worcester Warriors & London Wasps will receive two additional bids to be used exclusively on academy age players. These players must be bid for on the National League Bidding page, and each bid will be considered by the RFU on its own merits before being accepted or rejected.  No bid will be accepted until a minimum of 24 hours has elapsed from the time the bid was made, in order to afford other managers the opportunity to make a counter bid.
  • Foreign
    To make a foreign transfer (i.e. from any club outside of the AP, regardless of whether the player is English) a bid should be made on the Foreign Transfers Page, which will be considered by the RFU against the posted guidelines for purchase prices before being accepted or rejected. No bid will be accepted until a minimum of 24 hours has elapsed from the time the bid was made, in order to afford other managers the opportunity to make a counter bid.

    There will be a summer foreign transfer window, which will run as follows.
    Player Draft
    Worcester Warriors & London Wasps will participate in a player draft beginning the week of June 22nd. Both sides will be allowed to draft two players each. The draft picks will go as follows; 1. Worcester 2. Wasps 3. Wasps 4. Worcester.

    Round Bidding
    There will be two rounds of bidding. The first window will run the week starting June 29th and the second the week starting July 3rd. All sides will be allowed to sign one player each during the window. These bids are not protected if you do not have the funds in place to bid during the window you will lose the bid.    

    Open Bidding
    From July 13th the foreign market will be open to all bids similar to previous seasons. Due to the world cup the window will remain open till the end of September.

Player Releases wrote:
Managers may choose to release players from their clubs, for which they will be offered compensation

Compensation will be paid as follows

£2 million – current international (must have played international rugby in the previous 12 months)
£1.5 million – former international
£1m – top flight experience
£0.5m – other

All released players will be deemed to have joined a Championship side and can be bid for on the National League Bidding page.
Retirements wrote:
There will be no compensation for retiring players.  Should a player who retires decide to come out of retirement and play again, then he will automatically go back to the club who he was playing for in the game when he retired.
Fixtures wrote:
There will be 22 Aviva Premiership games per season, plus the play offs. There will also be European Rugby Champions Cup, European Rugby Challenge Cup and Anglo Welsh Cup matches.  These games will take place once a week. A match thread will be put up every Monday. Home teams must be named by midnight on Tuesday. Away teams must be named by midnight on Wednesday. Failure to meet these deadlines is punishable by the addition of three match points to the oppositions final score, unless both sides fail to do so. Both teams must provide tactics by midnight on Thursday. Predictions will be open from 00:01 hours on Friday and remain open until 20:00 hours on Sunday. Managers will pm the scores that they think will happen from these games (apart from games in which they are involved).  An average of all predictions will be taken, and then 0.5 points added to each teams score for each prediction that had them as the winner, and that will then be the final score.

Managers are asked to provide detail as to why they have predicted a result.  To be considered a descriptive prediction this must be a full 3 lines long when entered into the text box.
Teams wrote:
When naming your team, not only should you put the starting XV and replacements, but also tactics that your team will employ. Results will be affected by the tactics described.

In addition, each team must have the following:-

For domestic competition at least 8 England qualified players in your match day 23, and at least 4 of those must be in your starting XV.

For European competition at least 8 England qualified players in your match day 23, and at least 6 of those must be in your starting XV.

At least 2 props and 1 hooker on the bench.

All players must be eligible (not injured or banned).

Failure to comply with these rules will result in a 1 league point deduction.

If you fail to submit a team for a match, then the other team will be automatically awarded a 30-0 bonus point win. If both teams fail to submit a team, then it will be scored as a 0-0 draw.
Injuries and Suspensions wrote:
Injuries in this game do NOT reflect real life, they will be generated by me.

Players banned in real life will be ineligible for selection in this game for the duration of the ban.

Inclusion of injured/banned players will result in them being replaced by players on the bench, and the bench not having eight players, which may result in punishment if it concerns the front-row.

Punishment for fielding an ineligible player will be loss of one match point.
Financial Rewards wrote:
There will be no rewards for the result of an individual match, instead the managers will receive cash for predicting.

£2m for descriptive predictions
£0.25m for scores on the doors predictions
Bonuses will be awarded on a scaled basis i.e. 2m for 5 games, 1.6m for 4 games and so on
If you fail to predict without first advising me that you are unable to do so that week, you will be fined £1m for a first offence, £2m for a second offence, £3m for a third offence etc upto a maximum of £5m per fine.

AP finishing positions.

Champions: 8m
Runners Up: 6m
Playoff Semi Finalist Losers: 5m
5th: 4m
6th: 3.5m
7th: 3m
8th: 2.5m
9th: 2m
10th: 1.5m
11th: 1m
12th: 0.5m

Heineken Cup

Losing Quarter Finalists - £2 million each
Losing Semi Finalists - £3 million each
Runners Up - £4 million
Champions - £5 million

Amlin Challenge Cup

Losing Quarter Finalists - £1 million each
Losing Semi Finalists - £2 million each
Runners Up - £3 million
Champions - £4 million

Anglo-Welsh Cup

Losing Semi Finalist - £1 million each
Runners Up - £2 million
Champions - £3 million


If your budgets falls below minus £10 million for any reason, the administrators (SJE) will step in and players from within your squad will be released for the relevant financial compensation (foreign transfer value) in order to bring your budget back above minus £10 million.

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Re: Season 8 Homepage V

Post by Sgt_Pooly on Sun May 29, 2016 5:17 pm

Sell me JJ pls Steve

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Re: Season 8 Homepage V

Post by Fluxy on Sun May 29, 2016 5:23 pm

Watching the game live , Ford has looked alright despite goal kicking.

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Re: Season 8 Homepage V

Post by Sgt_Pooly on Sun May 29, 2016 5:24 pm

I think he's been awful Flux although much better in the 2nd.

His kicking has been a disgrace.

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Re: Season 8 Homepage V

Post by Steven_Sharks on Sun May 29, 2016 5:31 pm

JJ looks class but my issue is he tends to go missing when his sides up against it. 

Not a bad performance I'd say. Think Yarde has looked good but I still think Nowell gets the nod V Australia. 

I think it will be a really interesting call at 12. Because we don't have a controlling 9 I think it will be Ford/Farrell but would have been fascinating had Manu been fit.

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Re: Season 8 Homepage V

Post by Sgt_Pooly on Sun May 29, 2016 5:34 pm

Agree. Ford needs to be left alone for now.

Farrell, Manu, JJ would be very interesting.

Clifford and Harrison have went very well, Clifford obviously better. Launchbury, Muller, Burrell and Yarde showed up well too.


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Re: Season 8 Homepage V

Post by dammit_chris on Sun May 29, 2016 5:52 pm

Agree with you Fluxy, apart from his kicking he didnt play any worse than Biggar or Priestland - had some nice touches, trouble was playing next to Youngs as combo doesnt work and he didnt click with Burrell.

JJ for me is exceptional ball in hand, but he's had a bad season and I'd like to see Daly given a shot, agree with you Steve that he can go missing when his side is up against it but don't think he always makes the right choices with his final ball.

Clifford has to start - in addition to his ball carrying he adds that extra lineout option.

Very good result considering how strong the Welsh side was.

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Re: Season 8 Homepage V

Post by Steven_Sharks on Sun May 29, 2016 5:55 pm

JJ is streets ahead of Daly as a player and will and should not be picked ahead of JJ. 

He's struggled in a poor Bath side but JJ has been great for England.

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Re: Season 8 Homepage V

Post by Sgt_Pooly on Sun May 29, 2016 6:13 pm

Steven_Sharks wrote:JJ is streets ahead of Daly as a player and will and should not be picked ahead of JJ. 

He's struggled in a poor Bath side but JJ has been great for England.

Totally agree, completely different level.

Daly looked ok when he came on actually, nobody really ran at him which is good.

Ford all round was really poor. Farrell must have been rubbing his hands, we can't keep carrying him.

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Re: Season 8 Homepage V

Post by dammit_chris on Sun May 29, 2016 6:34 pm

Carrying him haha, you are beginning to sound like a football fan Pooly - we haven't carried him - look at how he performed against France in 6Nations.

He's had an off season, like most of Bath have - for me JJ has had a poor season, masked by his hat trick versus Italy but that is judged on the standards he can reach. Daly for me offers far more in his game, but JJ currently better, more experienced player and Daly very good off bench but deserves an opportunity to show what he is capable of.

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Re: Season 8 Homepage V

Post by Sgt_Pooly on Sun May 29, 2016 6:49 pm

Not having a go Chris but he's been poor for England, look at the responses on the main board.

We can't keep carrying him, he's going to cost us. I'd take Cips over him and I don't rate Cips at all.

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Re: Season 8 Homepage V

Post by dammit_chris on Sun May 29, 2016 7:43 pm

He kicked poorly and wasn't up to the required standard at all, shouldn't miss simple kicks like he did. Rest of his game wasn't poor and people over react on basis of his kicking - service from Youngs isn't good enough as he does that annoying two steps and pass thing that Harry Ellis used to do all the time, and didnt settle with Burrell.

I'd drop him and let him regain some confidence away from the England setup - I'd have given Brown a rest as well.

Wonder whether we will end up looking to play Itoje at no6, so we can play Launchbury and Kruis as well - throw in Clifford at no7 and you've then got speed around the park. Not sure Haskell and Robshaw will be quick enough in Australia as a unit?

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Re: Season 8 Homepage V

Post by prop_lyd on Sun May 29, 2016 8:00 pm

Not sure whether I will be able to.predict tonight. En route back from uni and am absolutely wiped!!!!

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Re: Season 8 Homepage V

Post by Sgt_Pooly on Sun May 29, 2016 8:09 pm

Happy to agree to disagree Chris, I thought he kicked by default and looked massively out of form.

Not sure moving Itoje to 6 would fix the lack of pace, he's a lock and not the fastest.

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Re: Season 8 Homepage V

Post by Sgt_Pooly on Mon May 30, 2016 8:40 am

SBW to sign 3 year deal with AB's....guess that's their midfield sorted for the next WC. SBW/Fekitoa is not too shabby!

http://intheloose.com/2016/05/29/sonny-bill-williams-has-made-a-huge-announcement-on-his-future/

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Re: Season 8 Homepage V

Post by Sgt_Pooly on Mon May 30, 2016 10:55 am

Seems about right. Clifford & Launchbury the standouts but an overall good display bar Ford.

IKE BROWN: Ran hard and straight, but surely Alex Goode must start at full-back against Australia. 6/10

ANTHONY WATSON: Remarkable finish for England's first try to prove once more he is a lethal finisher. 8

JONATHAN JOSEPH: Saw plenty of ball and at times used it wisely, but also kicked too much. 7

LUTHER BURRELL: Picked a sharp line for his try and it was his bulk that swept him over. 7

MARLAND YARDE: The wing's strength was a thorn in Wales' side and he deserved his try. 7

GEORGE FORD: A nightmare afternoon for the Bath fly-half who kicked just one of his seven shots at goal. 4

BEN YOUNGS: Rescued his afternoon with a well-taken try that he will replay in his mind over and over. 6

MATT MULLAN: It was a profitable afternoon for England's scrum and Mullan played his part. 6

DYLAN HARTLEY: As expected of a player so short of game time, lacked fitness. 6

DAN COLE: Made few inroads as a carrier but generally solid and tidy. Scrummaged well. 6

JOE LAUNCHBURY: Man-of-the-match display from the lock who was omnipresent at Twickenham. 8

COURTNEY LAWES: An outstanding run and pass enabled Yarde to score and he finished in credit. 7

TEIMANA HARRISON: An unspectacular debut but did enough to suggest he has a future in England's back row. 7

JAMES HASKELL: As ever, his work rate and appetite for the collision was relentless. 7

JACK CLIFFORD: Will surely start in England's back row against Australia due to his speed and power. 8

Replacements

- See more at: http://www.talkingrugbyunion.co.uk/england-v-wales-player-ratings/15529.htm#.dpuf

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Re: Season 8 Homepage V

Post by ChequeredJersey on Mon May 30, 2016 11:17 am

Generous to Youngs and Joseph, the first was poor aside from the try and the second was ok but nowhere near his good

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Re: Season 8 Homepage V

Post by ChequeredJersey on Mon May 30, 2016 11:18 am

Also the Wales' scores are far too close to ours in a match in which we were eventually dominant

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Re: Season 8 Homepage V

Post by Sgt_Pooly on Mon May 30, 2016 11:21 am

I think Youngs try is masking his poor display somewhat. JJ getting some bad press but I thought he went quite well, he just didn't back himself as much as normal.

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Re: Season 8 Homepage V

Post by Sgt_Pooly on Mon May 30, 2016 11:37 am

Must admit, the booing of Ford was a disgrace. Launchbury was outstanding in the line out, best I've seen him in an England shirt as he's rarely used.

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Re: Season 8 Homepage V

Post by ChequeredJersey on Mon May 30, 2016 12:23 pm

Even from a practical point of view, booing a struggling player is pretty dumb, it's hardly going to give them confidence and make them play better, is it?

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Re: Season 8 Homepage V

Post by SirJohnnyEnglish on Mon May 30, 2016 12:25 pm

Results will be done tonight in and around GoT time for anyone still to get predictions in

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Re: Season 8 Homepage V

Post by Guest on Mon May 30, 2016 1:29 pm

I was at the game yesterday and the booing was a small section of the crowd but disgusting.

Youngs was never a 6 he had a shocker as did ford.

Burrell ran really hard and had a decent game but launch Clifford and Watson were the best England players.

that display will have given England confidence for Australia and Wales must be feeling sick about having to play NZ

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Re: Season 8 Homepage V

Post by Sgt_Pooly on Mon May 30, 2016 3:05 pm

I've forwarded your predo onto Johnny, Matt. I don't do results, I just knock up the page.

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Re: Season 8 Homepage V

Post by Sgt_Pooly on Tue May 31, 2016 10:50 am

End of season deals then!!!

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Re: Season 8 Homepage V

Post by Fluxy on Tue May 31, 2016 10:55 am

OK

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Re: Season 8 Homepage V

Post by BamBam on Tue May 31, 2016 10:56 am

The following are available in the right deal

Hookers  
Dane Coles  
George McGuigan

Loosehead Props  
Alec Hepburn
Vincent Debaty

Tighthead Prop  
Davit Kubriashvili  
Charlie Faumuina
Ben Tameifuna

Locks  
Ed Slater  
Flip Van Der Merwe  
Jacques Potgeiter
Luke Jones
Matt Symons

Back row    
Chris Henry  
Callum Clark
Jordi Murphy   
Dave Ewers

Scrum Halves
Greig Laidlaw   
Dave Lewis
Will Chudley  

Fly halves    
Gareth Anscombe
Ian Madigan
Paddy Jackson

Centres  
Jean De Villers  
Stuart McCloskey  
Luke Marshall  
Francis Saili  
Robbie Freuan

Back 3
David Strettle
Rob Miller  
Charlie Sharples

LK Jonny Hill
BR Jack O'Donaghue (Ireland)
FL Curtis Browning (Australia)
FH Lloyd Evans
IC Tom Stephenson
WG/FB Piers O'Conor Eng U20s,
WG/FB Tom Collins

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Re: Season 8 Homepage V

Post by Sgt_Pooly on Tue May 31, 2016 12:24 pm

Lood perhaps picked the wrong guy to mess with

http://www.rugbydump.com/2016/05/5074/giant-bok-teammates-eben-etzebeth-and-lood-de-jager-come-to-blows

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Re: Season 8 Homepage V

Post by Fluxy on Tue May 31, 2016 12:38 pm

I actually think fair play to him (lood). Stood up to him and not going to take a backward step even against Eben shows some balls.

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Re: Season 8 Homepage V

Post by Sgt_Pooly on Tue May 31, 2016 12:39 pm

Fluxy wrote:I actually think fair play to him (lood). Stood up to him and not going to take a backward step even against Eben shows some balls.

Completley. Etzebeth is a bully, I'd have loved Lood to have floored the arrogant git.

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Re: Season 8 Homepage V

Post by dammit_chris on Tue May 31, 2016 1:18 pm

Who would people have as their AP team of the season? Mine would be:

1. Mako 2. Brits/Haywood 3. Cooper-Wooley
4. Itoje 5. Mitch Lees
6. Harrison 7. Smith 8. Vunipola
9. Robson 10. Farrell/Steenson
12. Barritt 13. Daly
11. Nowell 14. Piutau 15. Goode

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Re: Season 8 Homepage V

Post by Sgt_Pooly on Tue May 31, 2016 1:28 pm

Some tough calls.

1. Waller
2. Haywood
3. Sale TH
4. Itoje
5. Robinson
6. Harrison
7. Smith
8. Waldroum

9. Chudley/Robson
10. Steenson
11. Veanui
12. ???
13. Taylor
14. Piatau
15. Goode

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Re: Season 8 Homepage V

Post by dammit_chris on Tue May 31, 2016 2:10 pm

Good call on Veanui - not sure about Taylor though as Daly's been on another level this season for me.

Barritt has probably had his best season to date for Sarries, but at same time glad he hasn't made either England squad.

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Re: Season 8 Homepage V

Post by Sgt_Pooly on Tue May 31, 2016 2:13 pm

Daly/Taylor a tough call, both have been great in the AP. Taylor perhaps had the better 2nd half of the season so shades it for me.

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Re: Season 8 Homepage V

Post by BamBam on Tue May 31, 2016 3:10 pm

Thoughts on where to improve my 1st choice 23?

Mullan
George
Kubriashvili
Petti
De Jager
Ewers
Louw
Read
Webb
Farrell
Strettle
Serfontein
Williams
Piutau
Smith

Chat, Hepburn, Faumuina, Symons, Clark, Laidlaw, Jackson, Sharples

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Re: Season 8 Homepage V

Post by Fluxy on Tue May 31, 2016 3:15 pm

Give me Farrell, he's not great to be honest...

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Re: Season 8 Homepage V

Post by Sgt_Pooly on Tue May 31, 2016 3:24 pm

TH, 4, 6 and centre probably your weakest areas (being picky) I prefer Williams at 12 personally.

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Re: Season 8 Homepage V

Post by BamBam on Tue May 31, 2016 3:29 pm

Williams is always tricky, when I've started him at 12 I've been told he's an outside centre!

He started at 13 against England, but impresses at both spots when he gets a chance

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Re: Season 8 Homepage V

Post by Sgt_Pooly on Tue May 31, 2016 3:34 pm

Always seen him as a 12 who can play a bit at 13 personally.

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Re: Season 8 Homepage V

Post by BamBam on Tue May 31, 2016 3:44 pm

May just get Williams and Serfontein to switch it up in my tactics and see how that goes

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Re: Season 8 Homepage V

Post by Sgt_Pooly on Tue May 31, 2016 3:46 pm

Other will see things their own way mate. Serfontein much stronger at 12 too imo.

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Re: Season 8 Homepage V

Post by BamBam on Tue May 31, 2016 4:16 pm

Appreciate the season only ended yesterday, but any idea of plans for the summer? Pre season games, foreign window, domestic bids reset etc

(Can you tell its half term and there's no one in the office to ask me inane questions?)

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Re: Season 8 Homepage V

Post by SirJohnnyEnglish on Tue May 31, 2016 10:03 pm

Haven't any timeline down yet Bam for transfers. There will be a summer tournie to earn a bit of extra cash and in which we will give the attributes idea a go. May is a busy month end for me so will be next week before I actually sit down and start putting timelines down and looking at finalising rules etc . If you have any extra suggestions for next season please get them in. Discussion welcome on the ideas thread!

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Re: Season 8 Homepage V

Post by ChequeredJersey on Tue May 31, 2016 10:43 pm

what's my rule for new squad, Johnny?

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Re: Season 8 Homepage V

Post by SirJohnnyEnglish on Wed Jun 01, 2016 12:03 am

You can have whoever you want from your Wasps squad and the current Bristol squad who aren't already in the league  thumbsup

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Re: Season 8 Homepage V

Post by ChequeredJersey on Wed Jun 01, 2016 12:32 am

Up to 45 plus academy, right?

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Re: Season 8 Homepage V

Post by SirJohnnyEnglish on Wed Jun 01, 2016 7:48 am

Its 40 seniors and 23 academy  thumbsup

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Re: Season 8 Homepage V

Post by Sgt_Pooly on Wed Jun 01, 2016 11:10 am

3 year contract with AB's and Blues, at last!

http://www.planetrugby.com/news/sbw-re-signs-joins-blues/

He'll be playing in the Rugby Championship in August....I've got my midfield back Very Happy

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Re: Season 8 Homepage V

Post by BamBam on Wed Jun 01, 2016 11:14 am

Blues could have a very tasty backline

SBW, Moala, Li, Ioane

Just need some top halfbacks

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Re: Season 8 Homepage V

Post by Sgt_Pooly on Wed Jun 01, 2016 11:16 am

I think they'll do well next season, they've shown glimpses this year.

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Re: Season 8 Homepage V

Post by ChequeredJersey on Wed Jun 01, 2016 8:01 pm

academy cut off next season sept 1994?

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