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Post by Welly on Fri 10 Jun 2016, 12:47 pm

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2016/17:
Director of Rugby: Richard Cockerill
Head Coach: Aaron Mauger
Assistant Backs Coach: Geordan Murphy
Assistant Forward Coach: Richard Blaze
Defence and Scrum Half Coach: Scott Hansen
Head of Rugby Operations: Ged Glynn
Team manager: Matt Cornwall

2016/17 Senior Squad: (Confirmed So Far) (Blue = EQP)
Hookers: Bateman, McGuigan, Thacker, Youngs
Props: Ayerza, Balmain, Brugnara Cilliers, Cole, Genge, Mulipola, Rizzo
Locks: Barrow, Fitzgerald, Kitchener, Slater
Back Row: Croft, Fonua, Hamilton McCaffrey, O'Connor, Williams
Scrum Half: Harrison, Kitto, Youngs
Fly Half: Burns, Williams
Centre: Catchpole, Roberts, Smith, Toomua, Tuilagi
Back 3: Betham, Brady, Pieterson, Tait, Thompstone, Veainu
Squad number: 37, EQP: 24, Academy products: 8

Transfers
IN: (7)
McGuigan (Newcastle Falcons), Cilliers (Montpelier), Genge (Bristol), Hamilton (Agen), Toomua (ACT Brumbies). JP Pieterson (Sharks), Brady (Sale)

OUT: (12)
Ghiraldini (Toulouse), Pasquali (Treviso), De Chaves (London Irish), Crane (Bristol), Pearce (Sale), Bell (London Irish), Baikeinuku (retirement), De Villiers (Retirement), Benjamin (retirement), Morris (N/A), Camacho (N/A), Goneva (Newcastle Falcons)

Not Sure: (No official confirmation of leaving or Staying) 3
Aguero, Sio Loamanu,

Rumours:
Harry Wells (Bedford) Lock/6

2016/17 Development Squad: (15)
Bryant, Evans, Hills, Lewis, Mahoney, Maksymiw, J.Olowofela, R. Olowofela, Owen, Simmons, Thacker, Tuilagi, White, Worth, Yawayawa

Transfer
IN: (7)
Lewis, Mahoney, J.Olowofela, R. Olowofela, Simmons, White, Yawayawa

OUT: 11
Odogwu (sale), Beckett (Glous), Povoas (Coventry), Tresidder (Rotherham Titans), Douglas, Farnworth, Galletly, Hogan, Murrin, Nairn, Priestley-Nangle.


Academy
Academy Head Coach/forwards Coach: Brett Deacon
Academy Backs Coach: Anthony Allen


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Re: Leicester Tigers 2016/17 thread.

Post by king_carlos on Mon 09 Jan 2017, 11:12 am

With Owen likely out I expect he'll stay on the bench for the Racing game as well, Welly. It's becoming a case of last back standing.

Hopefully Roberts is fit to return to the squad at the weekend. It would be a good chance to give Oli Bryant (is he fit at the moment?) a game as well if Williams will be out for a while.

9.Youngs 10.Burns 11.Brady 12.Smith 13.Betham 14.Thompstone 15.Worth

Expect we will see that at the weekend with Harrison on the bench, hopefully joined by Roberts and one of Thacker/Bryant.

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Re: Leicester Tigers 2016/17 thread.

Post by Welly on Mon 09 Jan 2017, 11:20 am

Is he in the euro squad?

Could see it being
21) Kitto
22) Harrison
23) Roberts.

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Re: Leicester Tigers 2016/17 thread.

Post by king_carlos on Mon 09 Jan 2017, 11:33 am

He isn't Welly no. I always forget about registered squad for the ERCC.

Oli Bryant is so he could feature if fit.

If the club wanted to bring Charlie in then there are a few he could reasonably replace. Tomas Leonardi  picard is still registered. On the other end of the spectrum Ben White is registered but unlikely to feature with the three senior 9s available.

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Re: Leicester Tigers 2016/17 thread.

Post by screamingaddabs on Mon 09 Jan 2017, 11:45 am

On an upbeat note, I thought Betham looked fairly good in the snatches of the game that I caught. TO be honest though, the problem is (in my not very humble opinion) the back row. You look at the top sides and compare the back rows and ours simply isn't as good. Not much go forward ball, just a group of decent but not outstanding players.

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Re: Leicester Tigers 2016/17 thread.

Post by Welly on Mon 09 Jan 2017, 11:58 am

king_carlos wrote:He isn't Welly no. I always forget about registered squad for the ERCC.

Oli Bryant is so he could feature if fit.

If the club wanted to bring Charlie in then there are a few he could reasonably replace. Tomas Leonardi  picard is still registered. On the other end of the spectrum Ben White is registered but unlikely to feature with the three senior 9s available.

Think it has to be for a player in a similar position.

Guess Manu.

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Re: Leicester Tigers 2016/17 thread.

Post by formerly known as Sam on Mon 09 Jan 2017, 12:44 pm

Isn't there age limits. You're allowed 25 players of 21 and over and then all the academy options you want? Or is that football?

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Re: Leicester Tigers 2016/17 thread.

Post by LondonTiger on Mon 09 Jan 2017, 12:58 pm

3. ELIGIBILITY OF PLAYERS
3.1 Each club must nominate a squad of up to 41 players. A minimum of 10 of the players nominated by the club must be capable of playing in front row forward positions. All such players must, on registration, be fully and properly registered with their club and Union.

3.2 A club must nominate a squad of between 19 and 23 players for each match.

3.3 A minimum of six front row players must be included in each match squad such that on the first occasion that a replacement is required in each position, a replacement can be made. Where uncontested scrums are ordered due to the departure of a front row player and there is no suitable replacement, the player whose departure caused the uncontested scrums may not be replaced (i.e. the club will be required to play with 14 players).

3.4 In order to reduce the possibility of uncontested scrums, each club may also nominate further front row players, referred to as Emergency Front Row players, who may be registered with EPCR on a match-by-match basis provided that all necessary details of the players have been submitted before 12 noon (GMT) on 22 September 2016. The provision for the nomination of Emergency Front Row players is not intended to allow clubs to improve the quality of their squads, and is designed to cater for illness and/or injury in the relevant positions. The players added to squads will typically come from a club's academy or similar.

3.5 Each club may register up to three additional players during the pool stage, each to replace a player previously registered. If a club registers three additional players, one such player must be a front row player. Additional players must have a three-month contract with the club and must not have played for another club in the tournament. Additional player registrations must be submitted by 12 noon (GMT) on the Tuesday before the match. De-registered players may be re-registered (in place of the relevant additional players) during the pool stage.

3.6 Each club involved in the knockout stage may register up to three further players. If a club registers three further players, one such player must be a front row player. Such registrations must be submitted by 12 noon (GMT) on 16 March 2017. The players in question must not have played for another club in the tournament.

3.7 Each club is permitted a maximum of two 'non-European players' in each match squad.

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Re: Leicester Tigers 2016/17 thread.

Post by formerly known as Sam on Mon 09 Jan 2017, 2:24 pm

I'm thinking of the wrong sport clearly.

I suspect we'll need Bryant on the bench if possible to cover flyhalf. Unless we're going to move Harrison there in an emergency.

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Re: Leicester Tigers 2016/17 thread.

Post by Welly on Mon 09 Jan 2017, 2:41 pm

Could be wrong but didn't Bryant get injured during the a league game v Saints

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Re: Leicester Tigers 2016/17 thread.

Post by formerly known as Sam on Mon 09 Jan 2017, 3:45 pm

Probably he seems susceptible to injuries. We'll need Tait fit for the bench then as we'll be struggling for fit backs else. Worth played flyhalf on loan for Notts but it might be a bit much to ask him to do that against Dan Carter. Wrap Burns in cotton wool this week.

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Re: Leicester Tigers 2016/17 thread.

Post by king_carlos on Wed 11 Jan 2017, 7:09 pm

Who do we believe is still out of contract at the end of the season then?

Brugnara
Rizzo
Logo 
Harry Thacker
Croft
Leonardi
Kitto?
Roberts
Matt Tait

I'm guessing that Harry Wells and Will Owen are on 1 year deals as well. Bryant too I'd guess. Catchpole could perhaps need a renewal if he's on a short contract.

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Re: Leicester Tigers 2016/17 thread.

Post by king_carlos on Thu 12 Jan 2017, 4:13 am

http://www.epcrugby.com/matchcentre/leicester_tigers.php?section=3

Manu taken out of the European cup squad and Charlie Thacker added to it.

I think we can presume that Charlie is in the running for the Racing game then. That's both good news from a player development perspective and bad news from where our injured backline players are at.

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Re: Leicester Tigers 2016/17 thread.

Post by formerly known as Sam on Thu 12 Jan 2017, 9:26 am

Logical to pop Thacker into the squad. Manu is injured and we need the midfield cover.

With the season now only a few months long hopefully we can scrape the cash together for a centre.

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Re: Leicester Tigers 2016/17 thread.

Post by LondonTiger on Fri 13 Jan 2017, 12:08 pm

Team:

Tait, Thompstone, Betham, Smith, Brady, Burns, Youngs, McCaffery, Evans, William, Kitchener, Slater, Cole, Youngs, Genge

Thacker, Bateman, Cilliers, Fitzgerals, Hamilton, Kitto, Harrison, Roberts

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Re: Leicester Tigers 2016/17 thread.

Post by king_carlos on Fri 13 Jan 2017, 12:29 pm

Tough on Worth to drop out completely, especially with 2 scrum halves on the bench.

Good to see Taity back though.

Glad to see Harry Thacker involved too. I'm actually a fan of McGuigan, unlike many I've spoken to I think he has performed OK and just looks like a young player adapting to a new club. If game time could keep Thacker at the club then give him game time though.

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Re: Leicester Tigers 2016/17 thread.

Post by LondonTiger on Fri 13 Jan 2017, 12:35 pm

Racing 92:

15 Brice Dulin, 14 Joe Rokocoko, 13 Henry Chavancy, 12 Casey Laulala, 11 Marc Andreu, 10 Dan Carter, 9 Xavier Chauveau; 1 Eddy Ben Arous, 2 Virgile Lacombe, 3 Luc Ducalcon, 4 Gerbrandt Grobler, 5 Francois van der Merwe (c), 6 Antonie Claassen, 7 Matthieu Voisin, 8 So'otala Fa'aso'o. Replacements: 16 Camille Chat, 17 Viliamu Afatia, 18 Ben Tameifuna, 19 Ali Williams, 20 Olivier Missoup, 21 James Hart, 22 Benjamin Dambielle, 23 Albert Vulivuli


I know they are struggling a little, but blow me that looks strong.

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Re: Leicester Tigers 2016/17 thread.

Post by king_carlos on Fri 13 Jan 2017, 12:43 pm

There goes hopes that Racing would field a weakened side Doh

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Re: Leicester Tigers 2016/17 thread.

Post by BigGee on Fri 13 Jan 2017, 12:55 pm

It would be utterly embarrassing for Racing to come out of the group without a single win and you can't imagine the pay masters will be happy with that at all.

They also need to find some form for the league which they are also struggling with a little bit.

Hard to see them rolling over this week like they did for Munster last week. You would imagine if Leicester are to win this, then they will have to play out of their skins.

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Post by formerly known as Sam on Fri 13 Jan 2017, 12:57 pm

Yikes. As I feared the French don't want to risk losing at home. This is going to be a brutal game.

Good to see Thacker back as his dynamism off the bench might be very helpful. We won't be able to physically overpower Racing so we're going to have to be more intense and box clever. The template has to be the second half vs Wasps. Press hard round the fringes to stop their big ball carriers making easy yards and take the ball at pace in attack with multiple runners overloading the channel to stop the big Racing pack coming forward to make dominant tackles.

Surely Worth has a knock to not be on the bench. If Tait gets injured we're in trouble as it's either Betham to 15 or Burns to 15 and a scrum half to 9. Worth is also a back up goal kicker and has played 10 and 12 before at decent levels.

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Re: Leicester Tigers 2016/17 thread.

Post by nathan on Fri 13 Jan 2017, 5:13 pm

Cockers last blog for the mercury

I am glad to have the opportunity to write one final column.

I wanted to be able to say a few things and offer some sincere thanks after 23 years at Leicester Tigers.


The whole experience has been absolutely fantastic and I have loved almost every minute of it.

I don't think you ever truly realise what a good time you are having somewhere until it's over and you have a chance to reflect and look back.

Now I will have a chance to do that.

I am not one for overly reminiscing – sitting down and going through old times. But memories of my time at Leicester will always be at the forefront of my mind. Stories and little moments will, no doubt, always crop up. When your time at one club has taken up as much of your life as my time at Leicester has, that will be inevitable.

I am writing this from Toulon where I have just arrived to offer them some help until the end of the season.

To be honest, I am glad to have had the opportunity to get back out on the coaching field so quickly after leaving Tigers.

When I woke up at home on Tuesday morning, it was the first time since I was 16 that I didn't have a job to go to.

That felt strange.

We'll see what this chapter of my life brings and I am going into it with an open mind.

I have often referred to Tigers as 'my club' during press interviews.

With every year that went by as a player and then a coach, I felt a stronger and stronger attachment to it. Not just the pitch, the changing rooms, the training ground and the team rooms, but to the people that have made the club what it is.

That obviously means my relationship with the board, senior management, players and fellow coaches but, behind the scenes, there are a lot of other people at Leicester to help make the place what it is.

They all play their part and they have all had an impact on making me enjoy my time at the club so much.

In some respects, you get thrown together with the people you work with. I have been lucky to have worked alongside some fantastic people at the club and consider myself very lucky to have done so.

Leicester is a proud club with family values which runs its own finances and is one which has enjoyed incredible success over the years.

There is a lot of respect around the country for Tigers and the way the club has gone about its business over the years.

People know what the Tigers stand for and I am proud to have been part of that.

I have also been taken aback by the amount of 'good luck' messages I have received this week.

Unusually, I have had the time to write back to every single one of them too!

So thank-you to everyone for the support I have received, not just during the last week or so, but over my two decades at the club.

It has meant a lot.

I would like to sign off by wishing everyone at the club and all of the supporters of Leicester the very best for the rest of the season and beyond.

The Tigers are in my blood and will always be in my heart.

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Re: Leicester Tigers 2016/17 thread.

Post by king_carlos on Fri 13 Jan 2017, 5:34 pm

It's a great sign off, nathan. As I said last week, whilst Tigers might end up playing better rugby after a change up I think the Prem as a whole will miss a character like Cockers. He's a genuine, candid and thoroughly decent bloke.

On one of offy threads someone has posted a video of him in a press conference in France. It's certainly odd seeing him in different clubs tracksuit but his French certainly hasn't diminished since leaving Clermont. It's actually pretty amusing to see him chatting away with the journalists there whilst Ford sits next to him looking like he doesn't know what they're talking about it!

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Re: Leicester Tigers 2016/17 thread.

Post by formerly known as Sam on Fri 13 Jan 2017, 6:10 pm

Cockers has always been a good bloke off the pitch and his passion was always obvious. It was unfortunate he couldn't get a structure that worked right for him.

Ford Snr looks a bit annoyed in that interview. I think he's realising that he's hired his replacement.

http://video-streaming.orange.fr/sports-extreme/avant-match-toulon-sale-richard-cockerill-et-mike-ford-VID0000002hT1V.html?pid=SIl2WFC2AZWzJ7qSByljitF90Oyhq/uTlP9RR4oa2UJAUjZPP6wsdYWH95P3DwrNfPzEqwQzMhY=#plmAnchor

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Post by BigGee on Fri 13 Jan 2017, 6:16 pm

I have to say to all Leicester fans that I thought the way Cockers conducted himself after the two away euro games against Glasgow and Munster was exemplary.

Leicester got murdered in both games but he made no excuses and told it how it was, fundamentally saying they needed to get back on the training pitch and work harder to play better. On both occasions they won the game the following week at home.

Clearly not everything has been good at the Tigers over the past few years and maybe Cockers needs to re-invent himself as a coach in some ways but you certainly can't fault him for his honesty and his integrity and that article surely sums him up.

I really hope that he finds a new role for himself in the game, we need people like him.

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Post by formerly known as Sam on Fri 13 Jan 2017, 6:29 pm

BigGee he's already working in France as a consultant at Toulon.

Personally I think he needed to be a head coach with a DOR working above him. Couldn't really demote him once he'd got the job though.

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Re: Leicester Tigers 2016/17 thread.

Post by eirebilly on Sat 14 Jan 2017, 7:26 pm

There ye go Leicester fans, we have given yiz a chance thumbsup

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Re: Leicester Tigers 2016/17 thread.

Post by nathan on Sat 14 Jan 2017, 7:31 pm

eirebilly wrote:There ye go Leicester fans, we have given yiz a chance thumbsup

We'll still lose today

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Re: Leicester Tigers 2016/17 thread.

Post by eirebilly on Sat 14 Jan 2017, 7:34 pm

nathan wrote:
eirebilly wrote:There ye go Leicester fans, we have given yiz a chance thumbsup

We'll still lose today

Believe Cool

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Re: Leicester Tigers 2016/17 thread.

Post by eirebilly on Sat 14 Jan 2017, 7:35 pm

There is no comp without Leicester and Munster competing.

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Post by eirebilly on Sat 14 Jan 2017, 7:42 pm

What channel is the Leicester game on?

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Re: Leicester Tigers 2016/17 thread.

Post by Fuzzy Dunlop on Sat 14 Jan 2017, 7:43 pm

BT Sport 3 Billy.

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Post by eirebilly on Sat 14 Jan 2017, 7:45 pm

Fuzzy Dunlop wrote:BT Sport 3 Billy.

Cheers brother, best of luck te yiz thumbsup

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Post by formerly known as Sam on Sat 14 Jan 2017, 7:49 pm

How on earth does Rocko not score that?

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Post by eirebilly on Sat 14 Jan 2017, 7:51 pm

Jaysus, Racing actually look up for this....

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Post by formerly known as Sam on Sat 14 Jan 2017, 7:56 pm

Ben Whitehouse not so much...

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Post by eirebilly on Sat 14 Jan 2017, 7:58 pm

How on earth could he see that as a knock-on?

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Post by nathan on Sat 14 Jan 2017, 7:58 pm

Trying to this what's worse at the minute, that call or the pitch

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Post by formerly known as Sam on Sat 14 Jan 2017, 8:00 pm

nathan wrote:Trying to this what's worse at the minute, that call or the pitch

The missed block for the try was far worse. The idiot shouting Tigers as Carter kicks need to be cut off at the bar.

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Post by eirebilly on Sat 14 Jan 2017, 8:02 pm

I feel for yiz Tigers fans, the one time Racing turn up is in a match yiz have to win. gutting

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Re: Leicester Tigers 2016/17 thread.

Post by Welly on Sat 14 Jan 2017, 8:02 pm

How the fek is this guy Reffing a champions cup game.


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Re: Leicester Tigers 2016/17 thread.

Post by nathan on Sat 14 Jan 2017, 8:04 pm

Welly wrote: How the fek is this guy Reffing a champions cup game.


Surely the racing player dived on the player?

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Re: Leicester Tigers 2016/17 thread.

Post by eirebilly on Sat 14 Jan 2017, 8:05 pm

Is it me or are Racing playing dirty? Seems a lot of cynical play from them not being seen..

Oh feck.

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Post by formerly known as Sam on Sat 14 Jan 2017, 8:07 pm

It's Ben Whitehouse. He's been fast tracked through the WRU. I've seen him ref three or four games (only one previously for Tigers) and he was very poor in all of them.

Tigers are appalling away from home and have been season.

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Post by formerly known as Sam on Sat 14 Jan 2017, 8:18 pm

"You didn't move out the maul when I asked." No Ben you're miked and we can hear that you didn't say anything. 

How is this guy a professional?

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Re: Leicester Tigers 2016/17 thread.

Post by eirebilly on Sat 14 Jan 2017, 8:27 pm

The ground is terrible. It is cut up te fack...

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Post by nathan on Sat 14 Jan 2017, 8:28 pm

eirebilly wrote:The ground is terrible. It is cut up te fack...

Must be pretty heavy playing on that surface

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Re: Leicester Tigers 2016/17 thread.

Post by Welly on Sat 14 Jan 2017, 8:28 pm

I remember when we used to be good away

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Re: Leicester Tigers 2016/17 thread.

Post by formerly known as Sam on Sat 14 Jan 2017, 8:29 pm

Just so many errors from Tigers. Tait is having a shocker at the back.

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Re: Leicester Tigers 2016/17 thread.

Post by formerly known as Sam on Sat 14 Jan 2017, 8:30 pm

Why was Locky nit allowed to compete at the breakdown? There was a clear release and no ruck formed before he got back in.

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Post by eirebilly on Sat 14 Jan 2017, 8:33 pm

The ref is awful...


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Re: Leicester Tigers 2016/17 thread.

Post by Geen sport voor watjes on Sat 14 Jan 2017, 8:34 pm

No Leicester are awful.

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