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Post by sirbenson on Sun Jul 10, 2016 1:44 pm

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Congratulations to Henrik Stenson!


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Post by beninho on Thu Jul 14, 2016 12:50 pm

nope patrick will!

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Post by sirbenson on Thu Jul 14, 2016 12:57 pm

Porteous made two eagles in his first 6 holes!

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Post by sirbenson on Thu Jul 14, 2016 1:44 pm

Kwini
It still looks like Wood is playing!

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Post by kwinigolfer on Thu Jul 14, 2016 1:47 pm

Yup, Wouldn't put a lot of faith in Wood finishing, but beware the injured golfer!

Matt Jones has got a touch of the Scott Piercys.

Good finish by Harrington . . . . . . .

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Post by sirbenson on Thu Jul 14, 2016 2:44 pm

Do you mean Matt Jones is a tad cocky?

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Post by kwinigolfer on Thu Jul 14, 2016 2:47 pm

I mean he's putting together consecutive double bogeys. Piercy is a very heavy touch cocky!

Wonder how Casey & Na like being grouped together?

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Post by sirbenson on Thu Jul 14, 2016 2:50 pm

Today maybe a day Na is more popular than a fellow player in the same group!

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Post by kwinigolfer on Thu Jul 14, 2016 3:31 pm

Haven't been watching it all - has Charl or Casey done something untoward?

Perfect day for golf.

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Post by sirbenson on Thu Jul 14, 2016 3:49 pm

Nope, I just don't think Casey is that popular amongst his peers? Don't you think?

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Post by sirbenson on Thu Jul 14, 2016 4:08 pm

Casey, Na, Schwartzel all doubled 11!

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Post by kwinigolfer on Thu Jul 14, 2016 4:13 pm

Aah, Don't really know about Casey - quite possible that he's more popular in the States than in GB. When I've followed him with US partners he's seemed to get on well with them; certainly goes through caddies at Allenby-like pace though.

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Post by sirbenson on Thu Jul 14, 2016 4:19 pm

Great round from Tony Finau, my brother backed him @300/1 at the start of the week!

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Post by sirbenson on Thu Jul 14, 2016 4:30 pm

kwinigolfer wrote:Aah, Don't really know about Casey - quite possible that he's more popular in the States than in GB. When I've followed him with US partners he's seemed to get on well with them; certainly goes through caddies at Allenby-like pace though.

He does doesn't haha! Interesting to see how long he stays with John Mclaren

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Post by sirbenson on Thu Jul 14, 2016 4:44 pm

Jeez, Faldo talks a lot of rubbish

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Post by Shotrock on Thu Jul 14, 2016 5:41 pm

FIGJAM making it happen at the moment ... Jason Day not so much.

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Post by I'm never wrong on Thu Jul 14, 2016 5:50 pm

Wood retires.

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Post by super_realist on Thu Jul 14, 2016 6:18 pm

254 for mickelson

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Post by sirbenson on Thu Jul 14, 2016 6:21 pm

How on earth did that miss from Phil! So close to the elusive 62 in a major

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Post by sirbenson on Thu Jul 14, 2016 6:25 pm

He is box office Phil Mickelson, what a legend!

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Post by Shotrock on Thu Jul 14, 2016 6:26 pm

That's a fine looking leaderboard!

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Post by sirbenson on Thu Jul 14, 2016 6:29 pm

Shotrock wrote:That's a fine looking leaderboard!
Indeed! Jason Day the only top 10 player over par today!

Hopefully they get difficult conditions tomorrow!

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Post by kwinigolfer on Thu Jul 14, 2016 8:35 pm

Chris Wood's w/d will be a black eye for his Ryder Cup chances, bad news being injured for The Open and, possibly, the PGA.

Fitzpatrick and McDowell also doing themselves no good at all.

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Post by GPB on Thu Jul 14, 2016 11:15 pm

kwinigolfer wrote:Chris Wood's w/d will be a black eye for his Ryder Cup chances, bad news being injured for The Open and, possibly, the PGA.

Fitzpatrick and McDowell also doing themselves no good at all.

If Chris Wood does make the team will Darren Clarke make him play a round to prove he is fit like Seve did to Miguel Martin?

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Post by kwinigolfer on Thu Jul 14, 2016 11:25 pm

If the right guys come to play this week and the next couple, it will become a moot point.


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Post by Guest on Fri Jul 15, 2016 3:00 am

Monster putting from Mickelson.  Most of his birdies seemed to be in the 15 to 20 foot range.

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Post by sirbenson on Fri Jul 15, 2016 6:17 am

https://twitter.com/TheOpen/status/753707354508632064

Pin Positions for RD 2

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Post by sirbenson on Fri Jul 15, 2016 7:53 am

Ben Curtis with a 10 on the third hole

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Post by super_realist on Fri Jul 15, 2016 7:55 am

What a hacker

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Post by sirbenson on Fri Jul 15, 2016 8:02 am

Will that be the highest score of the week haha?

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Post by super_realist on Fri Jul 15, 2016 8:28 am

sirbenson wrote:Will that be the highest score of the week haha?

Doubt it, Sandy Lyle still has 18 holes to play.

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Post by navyblueshorts on Fri Jul 15, 2016 9:38 am

sirbenson wrote:Rory McIlroy on skipping Olympics: "I didn't get into golf to try and grow the game. I got into golf to win championships and win majors."

Shouldn't it be the responsibility of a top player to grow the game though?
No, in the same way as it shouldn't be the expectation that a top footballer should be any sort of 'role model'.
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Post by Davie on Fri Jul 15, 2016 10:02 am

navyblueshorts wrote:
sirbenson wrote:Rory McIlroy on skipping Olympics: "I didn't get into golf to try and grow the game. I got into golf to win championships and win majors."

Shouldn't it be the responsibility of a top player to grow the game though?
No, in the same way as it shouldn't be the expectation that a top footballer should be any sort of 'role model'.

Not a valid comparison at all. Expecting a footballer to be a "role model" is expecting him to make a moral stance in the way a child should live their lives (unrealistic). Expecting a top golfer to help grow the game is asking him to be mindful and assist in the development of his own profession - not at all unrealistic

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Post by sirbenson on Fri Jul 15, 2016 10:03 am

The Brutal weather has yet to come...

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Post by sirbenson on Fri Jul 15, 2016 10:04 am

Football is also a lot more popular than Golf, so I can't see the valid comparison in growing sports...imo

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Post by sirbenson on Fri Jul 15, 2016 10:10 am

super_realist wrote:
sirbenson wrote:Will that be the highest score of the week haha?

Doubt it, Sandy Lyle still has 18 holes to play.

Not a fan of Sandy I take it haha!

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Post by sirbenson on Fri Jul 15, 2016 10:12 am

Mickelson now four clear.....real break for the morning starters!

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Post by navyblueshorts on Fri Jul 15, 2016 10:13 am

Davie wrote:
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sirbenson wrote:Rory McIlroy on skipping Olympics: "I didn't get into golf to try and grow the game. I got into golf to win championships and win majors."

Shouldn't it be the responsibility of a top player to grow the game though?
No, in the same way as it shouldn't be the expectation that a top footballer should be any sort of 'role model'.

Not a valid comparison at all. Expecting a footballer to be a "role model" is expecting him to make a moral stance in the way a child should live their lives (unrealistic). Expecting a top golfer to help grow the game is asking him to be mindful and assist in the development of his own profession - not at all unrealistic
Reasonable point I guess. I still agree with McIlroy though. If he (and others) wins big events (Open, U.S. Open etc), he grows the game in the same way as Woods did. What happens if an Indian or Chinese wins, say, The Open? I suggest that'll do more than the Olympics ever could for golf in areas where it has huge room to grow. Golf in the Olympics is an anachronism and should never have been given the green light.
I also don't care that Tennis takes the Olympics more seriously now. Tennis was never about winning an Olympic gold medal, in the same way that golf isn't. Tennis just takes up a space for a more deserving sport (i.e. squash) to be staged at the Olympics.
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Post by sirbenson on Fri Jul 15, 2016 10:23 am

https://mobile.twitter.com/SkySportsGolf/status/753878085582200832 Casey with a five putt

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Post by 1GrumpyGolfer on Fri Jul 15, 2016 10:31 am

Isn't growing the game something players get into towards the end of their careers when they're thinking of their legacy. I'm thinking Nick Faldo and his series and the likes of Paul Lawrie and the work he does with young players. Surely it's unrealistic to expect a 20 something towards the top end of the game to not be focused on being the best they can.  They might start a foundation or something similar which would help with their tax bill but it might not be specific to golf.

In the context of Rory's comments towards the Olympics there's a whole other debate to be had on the merits positive or otherwise but, I heard Mickelson when asked about playing state "that he didn't grow up thinking this putt to win the gold medal it was this putt to win the US Open". He did go onto to say he was changing the schedule to see if he could improve his ranking sufficiently to qualify. I suppose we will never know if he would have gone or withdrawn.

Personally I don't think golf should be in the Olympics and between the ruling bodies and the respective tours they have ballsed it up by asking too much of the players in a Ryder Cup year. Condensing the summer and pitting the tours against one another was stupid and may mean that they have bolloxed up the chances to get it right next time.

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Post by super_realist on Fri Jul 15, 2016 10:37 am

No golfer has a responsibility to "grow" the game, that's the responsibility of the governing bodies.

No golfer has a responsibility to play in any tournament if he doesn't want to.

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Post by sirbenson on Fri Jul 15, 2016 10:45 am

super_realist wrote:No golfer has a responsibility to "grow" the game, that's the responsibility of the governing bodies.

No golfer has a responsibility to play in any tournament if he doesn't want to.

Fair enough but should he insult his own sport? And why did he use Zika as an excuse when he clearly never wanted to play!

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Post by sirbenson on Fri Jul 15, 2016 10:45 am

super_realist wrote:No golfer has a responsibility to "grow" the game, that's the responsibility of the governing bodies.

No golfer has a responsibility to play in any tournament if he doesn't want to.

Fair enough but should he insult his own sport? And why did he use Zika as an excuse when he clearly never wanted to play!!

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Post by kwinigolfer on Fri Jul 15, 2016 10:45 am

As posted yesterday, Rory already does more to grow the game than any other golfer his age . . . . . . as Grumps suggests, the attention for the fiasco should be on the administrators, not the golfers.


Was wondering why no-one else was picking Casey in our fanto games. Now I know. Jeez, only missed one green today in 11 holes and 23 putts already. Guess his "won't join the European Tour" charade was just that.
EDIT: Yikes, Just saw Casey's 5-putt on 7, ugly stuff.


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Post by super_realist on Fri Jul 15, 2016 10:50 am

sirbenson wrote:
super_realist wrote:No golfer has a responsibility to "grow" the game, that's the responsibility of the governing bodies.

No golfer has a responsibility to play in any tournament if he doesn't want to.

Fair enough but should he insult his own sport? And why did he use Zika as an excuse when he clearly never wanted to play!

How did he insult golf by saying it's not a "sport" that belongs there?

Yes, he shouldn't have hid behind "zika", but he's entitled to have an express an opinion about golf's inclusion in an event in which it would look out of place.

At least he has spoken out now, and he should have done an Adam Scott and done it right away, but the likes of Vijay Singh, who surely isn't looking at having any children at his age is also hiding behind it and no one seems to give a toss about him.

Good on rory, tell it like it is and give the knobs in the governing bodies a bloody nose. It needed said.


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Post by sirbenson on Fri Jul 15, 2016 10:51 am

Phil's lag putting has been fantastic and also holing several decent putts!

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Post by sirbenson on Fri Jul 15, 2016 10:52 am

super_realist wrote:
sirbenson wrote:
super_realist wrote:No golfer has a responsibility to "grow" the game, that's the responsibility of the governing bodies.

No golfer has a responsibility to play in any tournament if he doesn't want to.

Fair enough but should he insult his own sport? And why did he use Zika as an excuse when he clearly never wanted to play!

How did he insult golf by saying it's not a "sport" that belongs there?

Yes, he shouldn't have hid behind "zika", but he's entitled to have an express an opinion about golf's inclusion in an event in which it would look out of place.

Well my criticism is the fact he did hide behind the Zika factor as an excuse when he never wanted to play or tbh he never wanted to represent Ireland

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Post by super_realist on Fri Jul 15, 2016 10:54 am

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p041gf86


Here's a good explanation. People are entitled to give reasons and change that reason.

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Post by McLaren on Fri Jul 15, 2016 11:03 am

Is there a more painful sight in golf than Stenson's putting stroke?
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Post by kwinigolfer on Fri Jul 15, 2016 11:10 am

Beef would be right up there if he could keep those 7's off his card . . . . .

Mac, Is that how Henrik got into 2nd place?

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Post by super_realist on Fri Jul 15, 2016 11:14 am

Soren doing his Ryder Cup chances no harm. Steady player.

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