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Summer Tournament - Round 2

Post by Fluxy on Mon 11 Jul 2016, 11:13 am

ROUND 2 - 6 EQ STARTERS, 8 IN THE SQUAD

Home teams to be named by 23:59 hours on Tuesday
Away teams to be named by 23:59 hours on Wednesday
Tactics by 23:59 hours on Thursday

Predictions to be posted on the page 18:00 on Monday



Newcastle Falcons vs Sale Sharks
Old Trafford
Light Cloud, 18 Degrees, 12mph Westerly Winds


 Newcastle Falcons
Manager – Bambam

01. Alec Hepburn09. Rhys Webb 
02. George McGuigan  10. Owen Farrell 
03. Davit Kubriashvili
04. Matt Symons11. David Strettle
05. Lood De Jager12. Tom Stephenson
06. Callum Clark13. Scott Williams
07. Will Evans14. Charlie Sharples
08. David Ewers  15. Rob Miller
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16.Camille Chat 17.Nic Auterac 18. Charlie Faumuina 19. Guido Petti 20. Pablo Matera 21. Greig Laidlaw 22. Paddy Jackson  23. Charles Piutau

Please could I have some feedback on which of the EQ starters would be out of their depth in a AP/RCC game? (In those positions)



 Sale Sharks
Manager – SJE

01. Scott Sio09. Faf de Klerk
02. Tommy Taylor10. Johnny Sexton
03. Rabah Slimani
04. Iain Henderson11. Semesa Rokoduguni
05. Maro Itoje12. Charlie Ngatai
06. Matt Garvey13. Gary Ringrose
07. Matt Kvesic14. Keith Earls
08. CJ Stander15. Nick Abendanon
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Subs: 16. Malcom Marx 17. Ross Harrison 18. Martin Moore 19. Sam Carter 20. Sam Cane 21. Danny Care 22. Bernard Foley 23. Simon Zebo






Bath Rugby vs Racing 92
Principality Stadium
Light Cloud, 17 Degrees, 11mph Westerly Winds


Bath Rugby
Manager – CJB

01. Ellis Genge09. Richard Wigglesworth
02. Rory Best 10. Beauden Barrett 
03. Samson Lee
04. Will Skelton 11. Juan Imhoff  
05. Graham Kitchener 12. Damian De Allende
06. Josh Beaumont  13. Jonathan Davies 
07. Justin Tipuric  14. Christian Wade
08. Toby Falateu 15. Alex Goode
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16. Steven Kitchoff 17. Mikey Haywood 18. Nepo Laulala 19. James Gaskell 20. Josh Van Der Flier 21. Dan Lydiate 22. Tawera Kerr Barlow 23. Liam Williams


Racing 92

01. Eddy Ben Arous09. Maxime Machenaud
02. Dimitri Szarzewski (c)10. Dan Carter
03. Ben Tameifuna
04. Bernard Le Roux11. Juan Imhoff
05. Manuel Carriza12. Henry Chavancy
06. Wenceslas Lauret13. Johan Goosen
07. Yannick Nyanga14. Joe Rokocoko
08. Chris Masoe15. Brice Dulin
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Replacements: 16. Camille Chat, 17. Khatchik Vartanov, 18. Juandré Kruger, 19. Antoine Claassen, 20. Xavier Chauveau, 21. Marc Andreu, 22. Albert Vulivuli, 23. Luc Ducalcon





Wasps vs Harlequins
Old Trafford
Light Rain Showers, 22 Degrees, 14mph South Westerly Winds


Wasps

01. Ben Moon09. Mitchell Drummond
02. Tatafu Polota-Nau10. Henry Slade (k)
03. Fraiser Balmain
04. Sebastian Vahaamahina11. Marlande Yarde
05. James Broadhurst12. Brad Barritt (c)
06. Rynhardt Elstadt13. Luther Burrell
07. Fulgence Quedraogo14. Josh Charnley
08. Nazeem Carr15. Anthony Watson
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16.Christopher Tolafua 17.Joe Marler 18.Davey Wilson 19.Alun Wyn Jones 20.Dom Barrow 21.Louis Picamoles 22.Henry Pygros 23.Tim Nani Williams.

Just curious as too weather people ee these as guys who could potentially start. Josh Charney being the obvious exception too that.


Harlequins
Manager – Steven_Sharks

01. Ethan Waller09. Ben Youngs
02. Rob Webber10. Juan Martin Hernandez (k)
03. John Afoa
04. Nick Easter11. Joe Tomane
05. Mamuka Gorgodze (c)12. Stuart Olding
06. Jean-Luc Du Preez13. Robbie Henshaw
07. Jaco Kriel14. James O'Connor
08. Jack Clifford15. Jack Nowell
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16. Scott Baldwin 17. Cian Healy 18. Tadhg Furlong 19. George Kruis 20. Mitchell Karpik 21. Ruan Pienaar 22. Elton Jantjies 23. Mike Haley

Looking for feedback on how some guys are rated in alternate positions (Easter, Gorgodze, Clifford, JMH, Henshaw, Nowell, JOC) and some more fringe players and how they'd be rated in a full strength side (Waller, Baldwin, Webber, Afoa, Kriel, Du Preez, Olding, Tomane






Leicester Tigers vs Toulon
Kingpower Stadium
Sunny Intervals, 21 Degrees, 13mph South Westerly Winds


Leicester Tigers
Manager – Caretaker Fluxy

01. Max Lahiff09. Nick Phipps
02. Stephen Moore (c)      10. Freddie Burns (k)
03. Owen Franks
04. Pascal Pape11. Matt Banahan
05. Steve Mafi12. Kurtley Beale
06. Liam Messam13. Henry Purdy
07. Tom Johnson14. Drew Mitchell
08. Thomas Waldrom15. Mike Brown
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16. Schalk Brits 17. Mikheil Nariashvili 18. Brian Mujati 19. Harry Wells 20. Wycliffe Palu 21. Micky Young 22. Francois Trinh-Duc 23. Henry Purdy


Toulon

01. Xavier Chocci09. Jonathan Pélissié
02. Guilhem Guirado (c)10. Matt Giteau
03. Levan Chilachava
04. Samu Manoa11. Bryan Habana
05. Konstantin Mikautadze12. Maxime Mermoz
06. Mamuka Gorgodze13. Mathieu Bastareaud
07. Juan Martín Fernández Lobbe14. Josua Tuisova
08. Steffon Armitage15. Leigh Halfpenny
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Replacements: 16. Jean Charles Orioli, 17. Florian Fresia, 18. Romain Taofiféuna, 19. Virgile Bruni, 20. Théo Belan, 21. Delon Armitage, 22. Frédéric Michalak, 23. Manusa Saulo





Worcester Warriors vs Northampton Saints
Villa Park
Sunny, 20 Degrees, 12mph Westerly Winds


Worcester Warriors

01. Val Ruskin09. Gareth Davies
02. Ross Batty10. Dan Biggar (k)
03. WP Nel
04. Yoaan Maestri11. Waisake Naholo
05. Mike Williams12. Jamie Roberts
06. Jackson Wray13. Matthew Tait
07. George Smith14. James Short
08. Warren Whiteley15. Brice Dulin
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16. Ken Owens 17. Joe Moody 18. Henry Thomas 19. Leone Nakawara 20. Ben Morgan 21. Rory Kockott 22. Owen Williams 23. Nms

Feedback please on:
2nd row partnership,
Centres,
Back three,
Impact bench.



Northampton Saints

01. Mako Vunipola09. Conor Murray
02. Dylan Hartley (c)10. George Ford (k)
03. Ramiro Herrera 
04. Joe Launchbru11. Manuel Montero
05. Jonny Gray 12. Wesley Fofana 
06. Facundo Isa13. Manu Tuilagi 
07. Jack Lam14. Adam Ashley-Cooper 
08. Billy Vunipola15. Elliott Daly
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Subs: 16. Ashley Johnson 17. Wyatt Crockett 18. Jake Cooper Wooley 19. Samu Manoa 20. Schalk Burger 21. Joe Simpson 22. Matt Giteau 23. Ben Foden



Exeter Chiefs vs Hurricanes
Home Park
Light Cloud, 17 Degrees, 10mph South Westerly Winds


Exeter Chiefs Chief
         
Manager – Fluxy

01. Thomas Domingo09. Sam Hidalgo-Clyne
02. Tom Youngs10. Alex Losowski (k)
03. Ben Tameifuna
04. Courtney Lawes11. James Lowe
05. James Horwill (c)12. Stuart McCloskey
06. Marcell Coetzee13. Sam James
07. Teimana Harrison14. Chris Ashton
08. Sergio Parisse15. Maxime Medard
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16. Rob Buchanan 17. Jefferson Poirot 18. Kyle Sinckler 19. Jake Ball 20. Yannick Nyanga 21. Chris Cook 22. Toby Flood 23. Andrew Trimble



Hurricanes

01. Reggie Goodes09. TJ Perenara
02. Dane Coles (c)10. Beauden Barrett
03. Chris Eves
04. Vaea Fifita11. Julian Savea
05. Michael Fatialofa12. Willis Halaholo
06. Brad Shields13. Matt Proctor
07. Ardie Savea14. Cory Jane
08. Victor Vito15. James Marshall
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Replacements: 16. Ricky Riccitelli, 17. Ben May, 18. Loni Uhila, 19. Mark Abbott, 20. Callum Gibbins, 21. Jamison Gibson-Park, 22. Ngani Laumape, 23. Jason Woodward





Saracens vs Gloucester
Welmbley
Light Cloud, 23 Degrees, 10mph Westerly Winds


Saracens
Manager – Pooly

01. Alex Waller09. Morgan Parra
02. Guilhem Guirado10. Nicolas Sanchez
03. Dan Cole
04. Ed Slater11. Teddy Thomas
05. Sam Whitelock12. Ollie Devoto
06. James Haskell13. George North
07. John Hardie14. Telusa Veainu
08. Nathan Hughes15. Stuart Hogg
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16. Richard Hibbard 17. Ben Franks 18. Paul Hill 19. Geoff Parling 20. Will Fraser 21. Lee Dickson 22. Pat Lambie 23. Conrad Smith


Gloucester 

Manager – Mat

01. Rob Evans09. Dan Robson
02. Luke Cowan-Dickie10. Danny Cipriani
03. Uini Atonio
04. Eben Etzebeth 11. Johnny May
05. Tomas Lavanini12. Matt Toomua
06. Tom Croft13. Tevita Kuridrani
07. Ardea Savea14. Charlie Walker
08. Jamie Heaslip15. Israel Dagg
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16. Tendai Mtawarira 17. Joe Gray 18. Juan Figallo 19. Elliot Stooke 20. Willem Alberts 21. TJ Perenara 22. Dan Carter 23. Israel Folau





Bristol Rugby vs Chiefs
County Ground Stadium
Light Cloud, 19 Degrees, 12mph Westerly Winds


Bristol Rugby
Manager: CJ

01. James Slipper09. Ben Spencer
02. Cory Flynn10. Russell Finn
03. Tom West
04. Donnacha Ryan11. Tommy Bowe
05. Luke Charteris12. Christian Lealiifano (c.)
06. Chris Robshaw13. Nick Tompkins
07. John Barclay14.  Rene Ranger
08. Laurence Pearce15. Chris Pennell
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16. David Kilcoyne 17. Scott Spurling  18. Sekope Kepu 19. Grant Gilchrist 20 Josh Buggea, 21. Tomas Cubelli , 22. Kyle Godwin 23.  Jordan Williams


Chiefs

01. Kane Hames09. Tawera Kerr-Barlow
02. Nathan Harris10. Aaron Cruden (cc)
03. Atu Moli
04. Dominic Bird11. James Lowe
05. Taleni Seu12. Anton Lienert-Brown
06. Tom Sanders13. Seta Tamanivalu
07. Lachlan Boshier14. Toni Pulu
08. Sam Cane (cc)15. Damian McKenzie
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Replacements: 16 Hika Elliott, 17 Siegfried Fisi’ihoi, 18 Siate Tokolahi, 19 Mitchell Brown, 20 Liam Messam, 21 Brad Weber , 22 Andrew Horrell, 23 Sam McNicol



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Re: Summer Tournament - Round 2

Post by Driver on Mon 11 Jul 2016, 5:43 pm

Will format on Thursday.

1.Ben Moon
2.Tatafu Polata Nau
3.Fraiser Bailmen
4.Sebastian Vahaamahina
5.James Broadhurst
6.Rhyhardt Elstadt
7.Fulgence Quedraogo
8.Nazeem Carr

9.Mitchell Drummound
10.Henry Slade
11.Marland Yarde
12.Brad Baritt (C)
13.Luther Burrell
14.Josh Charney
15.Anthony Watson

Just curious as too weather people ee these as guys who could potentially start. Josh Charney being the obvious exception too that.
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Re: Summer Tournament - Round 2

Post by Steven_Sharks on Mon 11 Jul 2016, 8:17 pm

Harlequins
Manager – Steven_Sharks

01. Ethan Waller09. Ben Youngs
02. Rob Webber10. Juan Martin Hernandez (k)
03. John Afoa
04. Nick Easter11. Joe Tomane
05. Mamuka Gorgodze (c)12. Stuart Olding
06. Jean-Luc Du Preez13. Robbie Henshaw
07. Jaco Kriel14. James O'Connor
08. Jack Clifford15. Jack Nowell

16. Scott Baldwin 17. Cian Healy 18. Tadhg Furlong 19. George Kruis 20. Mitchell Karpik 21. Ruan Pienaar 22. Elton Jantjies 23. Mike Haley


Looking for feedback on how some guys are rated in alternate positions (Easter, Gorgodze, Clifford, JMH, Henshaw, Nowell, JOC) and some more fringe players and how they'd be rated in a full strength side (Waller, Baldwin, Webber, Afoa, Kriel, Du Preez, Olding, Tomane


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Re: Summer Tournament - Round 2

Post by ChequeredJersey on Tue 12 Jul 2016, 1:10 am

Bristol Team A
Manager: CJ



01. James Slipper
09. Ben Spencer
02. Cory Flynn
10. Russell Finn
03. Tom West

04. Donnacha Ryan11. Tommy Bowe
05. Luke Charteris12. Christian Lealiifano (c.)
06. Chris Robshaw
13. Nick Tompkins
07. John Barclay14.  Rene Ranger
08. Laurence Pearce
15. Chris Pennell
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16. David Kilcoyne 17. Scott Spurling  18. Sekope Kepu 19. Grant Gilchrist 20 Josh Buggea, 21. Tomas Cubelli , 22. Kyle Godwin 23.  Jordan Williams
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Re: Summer Tournament - Round 2

Post by prop_lyd on Tue 12 Jul 2016, 8:36 am

1. Val Ruskin
2. Ross Batty
3. WP Nel
4. Yohann Maestro
5. Mike Williams
6. Jackson Wray
7. George Smith
8. Warren Whiteley
9. Gareth Davies
10. Dan Biggar
11. Waisake Naholo
12. Jamie Roberts
13. Mathew Tait
14. James Short
15. Brice Dulin

16. Ken Owens 17. Joe Moody 18. Henry Thomas 19. Leone Nakawara 20. Ben Morgan 21. Rory Kockott 22. Owen Williams 23. Nms

Feedback please on:
2nd row partnership,
Centres,
Back three,
Impact bench.
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Re: Summer Tournament - Round 2

Post by BamBam on Tue 12 Jul 2016, 9:12 am

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Newcastle Falcons
Manager – Bambam

01. Alec Hepburn09. Rhys Webb
02. George McGuigan  10. Owen Farrell
03. Davit Kubriashvili
04. Matt Symons11. David Strettle
05. Lood De Jager12. Tom Stephenson
06. Callum Clark13. Scott Williams
07. Will Evans14. Charlie Sharples
08. David Ewers  15. Rob Miller
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16.Camille Chat 17.Nic Auterac 18. Charlie Faumuina 19. Guido Petti 20. Pablo Matera 21. Greig Laidlaw 22. Paddy Jackson  23. Charles Piutau

Please could I have some feedback on which of the EQ starters would be out of their depth in a AP/RCC game? (In those positions)

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Re: Summer Tournament - Round 2

Post by ChequeredJersey on Tue 12 Jul 2016, 4:44 pm

Will post what I want info on later when at hostel
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Re: Summer Tournament - Round 2

Post by dammit_chris on Wed 13 Jul 2016, 12:48 pm

1. Mako Vunipola
2. Dylan Hartley (c)
3. Ramiro Herrera
4. Joe Launchbury
5. Jonny Gray
6. Facundo Isa
7. Jack Lam
8. Billy Vunipola
9. Conor Murray
10. George Ford (k)
11. Manuel Montero
12. Wesley Fofana
13. Manu Tuilagi
14. Adam Ashley Cooper
15. Elliot Daly

16. Ashley Johnson 17. Wyatt Crockett 18. Jake Cooper Wooley 19. Samu Manoa 20. Schalk Burger 21. Joe Simpson 22. Matt Giteau 23. Ben Foden

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Re: Summer Tournament - Round 2

Post by SirJohnnyEnglish on Wed 13 Jul 2016, 1:35 pm

1. Scot Sio
2. Tommy Taylor
3. Rabah Slimani
4. Iain Henderson
5. Maro Itoje
6. Matt Garvey
7. Matt Kvesic
8. CJ Stander
9. Faf De Klerk
10. Johnny Sexton
11. Semesa Rokoduguni
12. Charlie Ngatai
13. Gary Ringrose
14. Keith Earls
15. Nick Abendanon

16. Malcom Marx 17. Ross Harrison 18. Martin Moore 19. Sam Carter 20. Sam Cane 21. Danny Care 22. Bernard Foley 23. Simon Zebo

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Re: Summer Tournament - Round 2

Post by Fluxy on Thu 14 Jul 2016, 10:05 am

Round 2 Predictions Open

Post them on the page, along with feedback for each game, if requested.

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Re: Summer Tournament - Round 2

Post by Sgt_Pooly on Thu 14 Jul 2016, 2:47 pm

Hopefully get to predo on this one lads

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Re: Summer Tournament - Round 2

Post by BamBam on Fri 15 Jul 2016, 5:09 pm

Bath 23 - 20 Racing

Not sure about Genge till I see him play more, plenty of set piece prowess outside of him though. Think the pack lacks a bit of physicality at the breakdown. Backline very good

Wasps 19 - 26 Quins

Wasps - TPN, the locks, Barritt, Burrell, Yarde, Watson all startable in those positions

Quins - Gorgodze/Clifford/Henshaw fine in those positions, rest iffy
Baldwin/Webber/Kriel/Olding all ok in a strong side

Leicester 16 - 24 Toulon

Too much power and pace in the Toulon side to not take this one for me, although I look forward to seeing how many deals Flux manages with this side!!

Worcester 23 - 27 Saints

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2nd row - Williams a back rower primarily for me, Maestri solid as ever
centres - Tait more of a FB now, but the balance kind of works - on form Bennett would work brilliantly
Back 3 - obviously start NMS but other than that its not too shabby
Bench - plenty of impact but Moody/NMS/Naka should be starting!

Saints - strong side as ever, tough to give much feedback

Exeter 24 - 30 Hurricanes

Hurricanes backs too good for Exeter here

Saracens 25 - 20 Gloucester

Saracens pack looks great, same criticism as last week in the backs

Bristol 24 - 32 Chiefs

No shame in losing to a Chiefs outfit this good

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Re: Summer Tournament - Round 2

Post by Steven_Sharks on Fri 15 Jul 2016, 6:55 pm

Newcastle 26 - 24 Sale

Bam - Hepburn, McGuigan, Evans, Stephenson can certainly be targetted in full strength game. Sharples and Miller also a bit edgy until form picks up again.

Bath 21- 20 Racing

Leicester 19 - 21 Toulon

Worcester 26 - 26 Saints

Don't think the locks work together. Ok in wet maybe or on a power orientated game. Tait doesn't play much at 13 these days so struggle to see him there though on paper it's a nice combo. Back three is fine and excellent bench impact.

Chiefs 23 - 22 Hurricanes

Saracens 23 - 22 Gloucester

Bristol 21 - 26 Chiefs

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Re: Summer Tournament - Round 2

Post by prop_lyd on Sat 16 Jul 2016, 4:00 pm

Falcons 24-22 Sale
Feel that Hepburn and Evans need a bit more time to get up to full strength in this game. Ewers better at 6 and Miller and Sharples need to have form behind them.

Bath 20-19 Racing

Wasps 22-25 Quins
If Slade his form that's a good eq backline on show there.
Quins-in the pack looks good, Easter may be better for bench this season. Backs look solid, would swap JOC and Nowell around.Fringe players ok, most on the list look like good impact subs.

Tigers 20-23 Toulon

Chiefs 25-26 Canes

Sarries 26-25 Glos

Bristol 22-28 Chiefs
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Re: Summer Tournament - Round 2

Post by ChequeredJersey on Sun 17 Jul 2016, 2:01 am

Sorry, didn't get a chance to ask for specific feedback Sad

I will post predictions tomorrow after my night shift finishes
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Re: Summer Tournament - Round 2

Post by ChequeredJersey on Sun 17 Jul 2016, 10:38 am

Falcons 24 - 23 Sale

Bit soon for Stephenson, Evans and Hepburn at the top table, though all will make it and could be experienced enough later this season. Sharples out of form. Miller's form is pretty good, I think! Sale put a very strong side out but home advantage sways it

Bath 23 - 23 Racing

Racing an excellent side, but a good Bath team. Genge needs more AP gametime. Love the 4-8 balance and lineout.

Wasps 20 - 23 Quins

Slightly less experimental Quins team wins it.
For Wasps, 2, 4, 5, 7, 10, 11, 12, 13, 15 could all start if needed, 4, 10, 15 and 12 especially.
For Quins: Easter at lock is ok but would only use as midgame cover, Gorgodze a decent starting lock for me, Clifford an excellent starting 8, JMH ok at 10 but would start him elsewhere when possible, Henshaw is actually best at 13 for me, Nowell passable at 15 but much better at wing, JOC needs form but wing his best position right now
Waller is ok as a back up LH, Baldwin I wouldn't start, Webber needs some form but may get some at Sale, Afoa is ok, Kriel good enough to start, Du Preez needs a bit longer, Olding nees to back up the hype in real life but seems a talent and could make it in the game at 12 with a strong controlling 10 and a powerful 13, Tomane is an ok backup winger choice

Tigers 17 - 20 Toulon

Full strength Toulon very hard to beat

Worcester 24- 25 Saints

Worcester doing very well with an experimental side that works but Saints have too much power in a game with no tactics.
Not sure about Williams at lock, prefer him in backrow. I like the centres, think they work well together with power from Roberts and cleverness from Tait. Back 3 are good, Short solid but Dulin a touch flakey for me but with Naholo there is magic that Short evens out with reliability. The bench looks vulnerable at the set piece but in the loose the impact is great, ideal attacking forwards, Kockott less a flair player though.

Chiefs 27 - 27 Canes

Fluxy has put out a very good side, but a bit green in the backs esp the talented young centres. Canes are quality and push the whole way but Chiefs hold on for a draw at home. Love the work and carrying of the Chiefs pack throughout the whole thing and the potential of the centres.

Saracens 25 - 26 Gloucester

Saracens more reliable at set piece and edge the pack but Gloucester have a top back row and carrying ability and lethal backs in great form and pip it on this
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Re: Summer Tournament - Round 2

Post by dammit_chris on Sun 17 Jul 2016, 12:11 pm

Falcons 30 - 28 Sale
Could be the year where some of your EQ comes through v strong Bam, Hepburn should build on his Saxons performances, could see him being a good impact player. Rest are fine, but Evans a little too inexperienced at the moment and Stephenson not getting much game time at Saints. Miller had a great season last year so would say he's fine as well.

Bath 23 - 23 Racing
Brilliant midfield for Bath, agree with others comments about Genge needing more time in the AP to judge properly as have quite a few ahead of him at the moment.

Wasps 25 - 25 Quins
Not sure about the lineout options with the Quins pack if Webber is throwing the darts there, and not sure Youngs works with JMH. Lot of the younger players are all absolutely fine to be in match day 23s as got some great players there.

For Chiefs, need to see Slade more at no10 but can't see him moving from the no13 shirt for Chiefs as he's playing so well there. I'd have him at 13 ahead of Burrell.

Tigers 16 - 21 Toulon
Tigers need to get a bit more power in their pack and probably bring in another centre and then they can really push on. Teo'o would be an ideal signing for them.

Exeter Chiefs 32 - 29 Canes
Forwards to Chiefs, but not sure how their no10 will do as just hasn't had game time for Wasps in real life, but expecting big things from him at Sarries this year.

Saracens 30 - 32 Gloucester
Great game. So unlucky to have Haskell ruled out for 6 months for Sarries. Not sure Parra works with Sanchez, might slightly stop his flow, whilst see the Robson and Cips partnership linking up really well. Gloucester top class in backs, Walker only person that could be got at. Would play Foloa at no13 as he has looked good there and personally think he gives more options than current player there.

Bristol 22 - 26 Chiefs
Bristol starting to take some more shape now. Backline looking strong, Tomkins could have a big season at Sarries this year so will help on the EQ front. Personally would get Guy Thompson from Wasps, as he'll get a lot of chances in first 6 months of season.

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Re: Summer Tournament - Round 2

Post by Fluxy on Sun 17 Jul 2016, 5:27 pm

Newcastle Falcons 23 - 25 Sale Sharks

McGuigan, Symons, Evans, and maybe a little less so Stephenson and Sharples, would be relatively untested or out of form in the latter cases. Although a good crop of young players coming through there Bam. Miller is a decent option, but your Fullback options surpass his quality quite a bit.
A close game between two good sides, but Bam's young guns will shine, but the quality of the double reigning champs is enough to edge out the Falcons.

Bath Rugby 22 - 25 Racing 92
Bath will cause the Racing team some trouble in defence, however the Racing pack has the edge of experience in this one. Bath with some very good young dynamic players, in the end the French Top 14 champions will see out victory here.

Wasps 27 - 28 Harlequins
Driver - a lot of your lads can and will most likely start throughout the season for you. Some may not start in particular competitions, eg Balmain in the ECC. Most of if not all of your back line will do good jobs at the highest level, although Charnley the obvious exception, being completely untested. I do prefer Burrell at 13, with a creative 12, hence a Slade/Burrell midfield could be quite creative for you.
Steve - Easter does a good job at 4 and will probably be best for you there this season with his legs probably starting to feel it! Gorgodze absolutely fine as well in the row. Clifford is a good eight, but for me will struggle against accomplished 8's JMH fine at ten, likewise Henshaw at 13. I like Nowell at 15, although do feel his best comes from being outwide. Similar with JOC although vice versa.
Afoa getting on and not as strong as he once was, but still handy. Kriel and Olding probably the best of the bunch, but all very good options to have.

Worcester Warriors 26 - 28 Northampton Saints
Prop - Maestri has become your best second row probably, Williams is a good squad player. Toner/Maestri maybe best, although would need some dynamism in the back row. Solid centre partnership, Tait does a job, but against better 13's may struggle. Back three is strong mate, very dangerous in attack, however would be some concern with positioning in defence from Short and Naholo.
A tight game, Warriors will push the Saints, however the quality of the Northampton side will see them secure victory.

Saracens 26 - 23 Gloucester

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Post by SirJohnnyEnglish on Sun 17 Jul 2016, 5:47 pm

Bath 23-22 Racing
Midfield unit looks strong CJB, Barrett in good nick and good depth on the bench. Genge not up to the level for the league yet and the 2nd row not quite a match for the best in the league.

Wasps 22-24 Quins
For Wasps Moon, Elstadt & Drummond stand out as weaknesses. Slade unproven at 10 but would do a good job in midfield. For Quins wouldn't look to start the two boys at lock outside of the AIs and Clifford not the strongest 8. The other positional tests work fine for me. Big fan of Jaco Kriel and would expect him to be involved more for you next year. 

Tigers 20-28 Toulon
Purdy named twice and stands out as a weakness as a starter.

Worcester 25-30 Saints
Worc: 2nd row lacking a bit at the lineout and been a long time since Tait played 13. If NMS is involved through the RC I'd look to get him in fullback. Forward impact decent although Morgan has form issues. No impact at halfback though.
Saints: Mostly regulars involved but Isa had a poor Super 15. Jack Lam a decent player but will need to hit the AP flying after a year at Championship level.

Exeter 28-29 Canes
EQ in the pack looking strong. Lowoski a weakness though at 10. With the pack options I'd look to use James as bench EQ going forward. 

Saracens 24-27 Gloucester
Wouldn't look to play North at 13 in the regular season. Devoto needs a good season for me at Chiefs. Looked poor for the Saxons and played 2nd fiddle at Bath for the year.

Bristol 24-27 Chiefs 
Haven't seen much of West. Tompkins looked good ball in hand for the Saxons but decision making a way off from being a starter at league level just yet. Pearce has potential but needs to step up for Tigers. Spencer hasn't kicked on as hoped but think the halfback combo works well with Spencer being similar in style to Laidlaw

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Re: Summer Tournament - Round 2

Post by Sgt_Pooly on Mon 18 Jul 2016, 11:40 am

Newcastle 25-28 Sale

Sale a little bit too much in each department with more quality and experience.

Bam - Symons, Ewers, Clark and your back 3 ok. Perhaps miss a bit of beef in the engine room, good lineout options though.

Bath 32-26 Racing

Wasps 23-26 Harlequins

Again, a bit more quality on show for Quins and better combo's. I like the Wasps halfbacks and back 3 bar Charney. A decent AI team.

Steve - Issues with the line out with that pairing, I'd play one or the other. Gorgodze better than Easter. No issues with the players out of position past that.

Leicester 20-25 Toulon

Worcester 21-25 Northampton

3, 10 and 7 aside, Saints stronger. Prop, a good lock a away from a very good front 5, need a better partner to Maestri. Back 3 pretty good, no issues.

Exeter 25-26 Hurricanes

Bristol 22-24 Chiefs

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Re: Summer Tournament - Round 2

Post by Fluxy on Wed 20 Jul 2016, 2:33 pm

Summer Tournament Round Two Results:
Newcastle Falcons 27 - 26 Sale Sharks
Bath Rugby 26 - 23 Racing 92
Wasps 23 - 29 Harlequins
Leicester Tigers 18 - 29 RC Toulon
Worcester Warriors 24 - 29 Northampton Saints
Exeter Chiefs 27 - 29 Hurricanes
Saracens 24 - 23 Gloucester Rugby
Bristol Rugby 23 - 31 Chiefs

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