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Post by Sin é on Sat 23 Jul 2016, 11:21 am

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What it says in the title - a place to put all bits of news not worth starting a thread for the Four Proud Provinces of Ireland such as new signings, interviews that maybe of interest to others etc.

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Post by GunsGermsV2 on Fri 19 May 2017, 11:56 am

Poor Keatley

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Post by marty2086 on Fri 19 May 2017, 12:03 pm

Surprised about Keatley being retained I thought he was signed up in France somewhere? Expected Ryan to be retained and the talking about it all in the media was he and Munster trying to put pressure on the IRFU

How are things looking with Bill Johnston? Is he out injured again?

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Post by Golden on Fri 19 May 2017, 12:46 pm

Where's Madigan off to? Thought he was meant to be a big prospect?

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Post by profitius on Fri 19 May 2017, 2:53 pm

Johnston is injured again as is JJ Hanrahan and with Bleyendaal's injury record, I'd say thats why Keatley was signed.


John Madigan just cannot stay fit. He picks up injury after injury. Maybe a change of enviornment will do him good. He is going to some French second division club.
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Post by Rory_Gallagher on Sat 20 May 2017, 6:32 pm

Anyone watching the Munster game? Can't say I agree with commentary (or the referee) as Biggar was clearly obstructing the ball carrier.

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Post by Seagultaf on Sun 21 May 2017, 9:48 am

Rory_Gallagher wrote:Anyone watching the Munster game? Can't say I agree with commentary (or the referee) as Biggar was clearly obstructing the ball carrier.

This is one of the mysteries of Rugby Laws, the ball carrier dummied a pass to Biggar just before the tackle. The intention of a dummy pass is to induce the defender to tackle the wrong player, but if he does then it's tackling a player without the ball and a penalty! Somehow this does not seem right.

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Post by geoff999rugby on Sun 21 May 2017, 10:17 am

Salli tackled Biggar.
His actions suggest he was not trying to tackle the ball carrier so hence no obstruction.

I reckon the ref was spot on

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Post by profitius on Sun 21 May 2017, 10:41 am

If Saili didn't tackle him he might have won a penalty for crossing.
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Post by geoff999rugby on Sun 21 May 2017, 12:09 pm

Absolutely true but he did so he got penalised

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Post by Sin é on Thu 08 Jun 2017, 12:48 pm

Munster are set to post a surplus of €310,000.

http://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/rugby/boost-as-munster-to-post-310000-surplus-451963.html

So, what are you guys going to bitch about Munster going forward, now that you can't beat us with that stick Smile
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Post by marty2086 on Thu 08 Jun 2017, 1:22 pm

Must be some creative accounting going on in Limerick

You guys still owe the IRFU a few million don't you?

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Post by Sin é on Thu 08 Jun 2017, 1:45 pm

marty2086 wrote:Must be some creative accounting going on in Limerick

You guys still owe the IRFU a few million don't you?

5 & 10 year tickets (about 2000) on sale now. That should help help clear most the debt.


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Post by marty2086 on Thu 08 Jun 2017, 1:46 pm

Better late then never sure Whistle

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Post by Sin é on Mon 19 Jun 2017, 11:23 am

According to Indo Rassie on is way back to South Africa with Jacques also heading back.

http://www.independent.ie/sport/rugby/munster-rugby/munster-reeling-as-rassie-erasmus-gets-ready-to-pack-bags-35840112.html
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Post by marty2086 on Mon 19 Jun 2017, 12:16 pm

At what point does the 6 month escape clause become detrimental to the provinces?

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Post by Pete330v2 on Mon 19 Jun 2017, 12:22 pm

That's a bit of a shocker alright but they must have been made some big promises back in South Africa.

It's a bit of a change that the IRFU get shafted by a Bok mind you, it's usually the other way around.

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Post by geoff999rugby on Mon 19 Jun 2017, 7:41 pm

marty2086 wrote:At what point does the 6 month escape clause become detrimental to the provinces?

Already is - lost us, collectively, many a good coach

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Post by Golden on Wed 21 Jun 2017, 3:14 pm

Saili has signed for Quins. Is Taute still at Munster next season?

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Post by marty2086 on Wed 21 Jun 2017, 3:17 pm

geoff999rugby wrote:
marty2086 wrote:At what point does the 6 month escape clause become detrimental to the provinces?

Already is - lost us, collectively, many a good coach

Should have clarified it as, when does it in the eyes of the IRFU


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Post by Pete330v2 on Thu 22 Jun 2017, 9:55 am

Don't Panic folks, our replacement for Ruan looks like being an international player after Saturday's match v Japan.
There, the IRFU have fixed everything.

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Post by marty2086 on Thu 22 Jun 2017, 9:57 am

He can cover 10 too now, it's like Ruan Lite Whistle

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Post by Sin é on Thu 22 Jun 2017, 10:04 am

Golden wrote:Saili has signed for Quins. Is Taute still at Munster next season?

Yes. Just need a new lock to replace D Ryan and a backup TH now.
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Post by GunsGermsV2 on Thu 22 Jun 2017, 10:38 am

Pete330v2 wrote:That's a bit of a shocker alright but they must have been made some big promises back in South Africa.

It's a bit of a change that the IRFU get shafted by a Bok mind you, it's usually the other way around.

CJ Van Der Linde.

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Post by Pete330v2 on Fri 23 Jun 2017, 12:02 pm

GunsGermsV2 wrote:
Pete330v2 wrote:That's a bit of a shocker alright but they must have been made some big promises back in South Africa.

It's a bit of a change that the IRFU get shafted by a Bok mind you, it's usually the other way around.

CJ Van Der Linde.

Nope, doesn't count due to rules I've just created in my head...

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Post by Don Alfonso on Mon 26 Jun 2017, 7:56 pm

So Rassie's gone. Apparently before the start of the season .

Typical amateur-hour Ulster. This would never have happened at Leinster or Munster. Etc etc.

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Post by Sin é on Tue 27 Jun 2017, 3:55 pm

Don Alfonso wrote:So Rassie's gone. Apparently before the start of the season .

Typical amateur-hour Ulster. This would never have happened at Leinster or Munster. Etc etc.

It happens all the time with Munster - Declan Kidney, Jim Williams, Tony McGahan for starters left before their contracts were up as they were called up by their home country.

I think every coach must have that clause in their contract - if they get an offer from their home country's national team they will be released.



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Post by profitius on Tue 27 Jun 2017, 7:47 pm

I hope this gets sorted soon. Its really dragging on at this stage though I would presume they'll do a deal so he will be gone before the start of the season.
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Post by marty2086 on Tue 27 Jun 2017, 8:14 pm

Sin é wrote:
Don Alfonso wrote:So Rassie's gone. Apparently before the start of the season .

Typical amateur-hour Ulster. This would never have happened at Leinster or Munster. Etc etc.

It happens all the time with Munster - Declan Kidney, Jim Williams, Tony McGahan for starters left before their contracts were up as they were called up by their home country.

I think every coach must have that clause in their contract - if they get an offer from their home country's national team they will be released.


Nothing to do with national teams, every coach under the IRFU structure has a 6 month release clause, it's how Pat Lam was able to leave for Bristol. He stated himself he was happy at Connacht but the IRFU wouldnt take the clause out as it is a two way clause so he went for the greater financial security at Bristol

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Post by Sin é on Fri 30 Jun 2017, 10:39 am

Rassie and Jacques leaving Munster to go back to SA at the end of December.
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Post by Rory_Gallagher on Fri 30 Jun 2017, 11:00 am

Sin é wrote:Rassie and Jacques leaving Munster to go back to SA at the end of December.

Half way through the season? What a disaster.

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Post by Sin é on Fri 30 Jun 2017, 11:21 am

Rory_Gallagher wrote:
Sin é wrote:Rassie and Jacques leaving Munster to go back to SA at the end of December.

Half way through the season? What a disaster.

Not so bad if the next coach is coming from SH (after Super Rugby / ITM Cup).

Munster will be down to two (inexperienced) coaches - Fla & Felix. A bit annoyned that Rassie decided not to recruit a Head Coach to replace Axel. That would have been something.
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Post by marty2086 on Fri 30 Jun 2017, 11:27 am

Sin é wrote:
Rory_Gallagher wrote:
Sin é wrote:Rassie and Jacques leaving Munster to go back to SA at the end of December.

Half way through the season? What a disaster.

Not so bad if the next coach is coming from SH (after Super Rugby / ITM Cup).

Munster will be down to two (inexperienced) coaches - Fla & Felix. A bit annoyned that Rassie decided not to recruit a Head Coach to replace Axel. That would have been something.

If the SARU were sniffing around maybe he felt he wasn't the right person to do that if he wasn't going to be there to follow through, another DoR coming in may have not got a long with the new Head Coach and you are getting rid of them and finding a replacement and its a vicious cycle

Talk of POC being brought up from the academy but seems a bit soon


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Post by Sin é on Fri 30 Jun 2017, 11:52 am

marty2086 wrote:
Sin é wrote:
Rory_Gallagher wrote:
Sin é wrote:Rassie and Jacques leaving Munster to go back to SA at the end of December.

Half way through the season? What a disaster.

Not so bad if the next coach is coming from SH (after Super Rugby / ITM Cup).

Munster will be down to two (inexperienced) coaches - Fla & Felix. A bit annoyned that Rassie decided not to recruit a Head Coach to replace Axel. That would have been something.

If the SARU were sniffing around maybe he felt he wasn't the right person to do that if he wasn't going to be there to follow through, another DoR coming in may have not got a long with the new Head Coach and you are getting rid of them and finding a replacement and its a vicious cycle

Talk of POC being brought up from the academy but seems a bit soon


Rassie promoted Fla (to Forwards coach) & Felix (backs coach). I'd imagine Rassie will also have to recruit his successor anyway.
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Post by GunsGermsV2 on Fri 30 Jun 2017, 11:55 am

Looks like the cheetahs and southern kings will join the oro 12 in sept

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Post by marty2086 on Fri 30 Jun 2017, 11:57 am

Sin that was when he first came in though, I doubt he was considering leaving at that point

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Post by Sin é on Fri 30 Jun 2017, 12:13 pm

marty2086 wrote:Sin that was when he first came in though, I doubt he was considering leaving at that point

Axel brought Fla in (as Scrum Coach). Rassie brought Felix in as a technical coach. Both were promoted last month. (Fla Forwards, Felix Backs coach).

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Post by marty2086 on Fri 30 Jun 2017, 12:27 pm

Sin é wrote:
marty2086 wrote:Sin that was when he first came in though, I doubt he was considering leaving at that point

Axel brought Fla in (as Scrum Coach). Rassie brought Felix in as a technical coach. Both were promoted last month. (Fla Forwards, Felix Backs coach).


Apologies Sin, that one I had missed

Was it Rassie, Munster or the IRFU though? I know Dublin are keen to promote Irish coaches through the setups, it worked wonders at Ulster Rolling Eyes

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Post by Marshes on Thu 20 Jul 2017, 11:35 am

Not related to the provinces but Stringer is signing a short-terms deal with Worcester, will keep him playing past 40th birthday: http://www.the42.ie/peter-stringer-40-contract-3505444-Jul2017/

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Post by GunsGermsV2 on Thu 20 Jul 2017, 12:08 pm

Yeah Stringer is class. unreal character.

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