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Post by A Simply Mesmeric Try on Thu 25 Aug 2016, 4:25 am

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Edinburgh & Glasgow Warriors

A Not So Brief History of Time-Wasting   (click to show/hide):

Guinness Pro12


Edinburgh - Fixtures & Results   (click to show/hide):

Click on a match for more in-depth info & highlights (ultimaterugby.com):
Victories in bold.

Results
1. 03/09/2016 | 19:35 | Cardiff Blues 34 - 16 Edinburgh Rugby | Cardiff Arms Park | BBC ALBA
2. 09/09/2016 | 19:35 | Edinburgh Rugby 20-9 Scarlets | BT Murrayfield | BBC ALBA
3. 16/09/2016 | 19:35 | Edinburgh Rugby 20-33 Leinster Rugby | BT Murrayfield | BBC ALBA/TG4
4. 24/09/2016 | 15:00 | Munster Rugby 28-14 Edinburgh | Rugby Thomond Park | Sky
5. 30/09/2016 | 19:35 | Connacht Rugby 28-15 Edinburgh Rugby | Galway Sportsground | TG4
6. 07/10/2016 | 19:35 | Edinburgh Rugby 45-10 Benetton Treviso | BT Murrayfield | BBC ALBA

Fixtures
7. 28/10/2016 | 19:35 | Edinburgh Rugby v Zebre Rugby | BT Murrayfield
8. 04/11/2016 | 19:35 | Edinburgh Rugby v Ulster Rugby | BT Murrayfield | BBC ALBA/BBCNI
9. 27/11/2016 | 15:30 | Newport Gwent Dragons v Edinburgh Rugby | Rodney Parade | S4C
10. 02/12/2016 | 19:35 | Ospreys v Edinburgh Rugby | Liberty Stadium | BBCW
11. 26/12/2016 | 16:05 | Edinburgh Rugby v Glasgow Warriors | BT Murrayfield | BBC ALBA
12. 31/12/2016 | TBC | Zebre Rugby v Edinburgh Rugby | Stadio Sergio Lanfranchi | TBC
13. 07/01/2017 | 15:00 | Edinburgh Rugby v Munster Rugby | Myreside | Sky
14. 10/11/12 Feb | TBC | Ulster Rugby v Edinburgh Rugby | Kingspan Stadium | TBC
15. 17/18/19 Feb | TBC | Leinster Rugby v Edinburgh Rugby | RDS Arena | TBC
16. 24/25/26 Feb | TBC | Edinburgh Rugby v Cardiff Blues | Myreside | TBC
17. 03/04/05 Mar | TBC | Edinburgh Rugby v Ospreys | Myreside | TBC
18. 24/25/26 Mar | TBC | Scarlets v Edinburgh Rugby | Parc y Scarlets | TBC
19. 07/08/09 Apr | TBC | Edinburgh Rugby v Connacht Rugby | Myreside | TBC
20. 15/04/2017 | 20:05 | Benetton Treviso v Edinburgh Rugby | Stadio Monigo | TBC
21. 28/29/30 Apr | TBC | Edinburgh Rugby v Newport Gwent Dragons | Myreside | TBC
22. 06/05/2017 | 17:15 | Glasgow Warriors v Edinburgh Rugby | Scotstoun Stadium | TBC


Youtube playlist of all of Edinburgh's Pro12 action here.

Glasgow Warriors - Fixtures & Results   (click to show/hide):

Click on a match for more in-depth info & highlights (ultimaterugby.com):
Victories in bold.

Results
1. 03/09/2016 | 17:35 | Connacht Rugby 5-41 Glasgow Warriors | Galway Sportsground | Sky
2. 10/09/2016 | 15:00 | Glasgow Warriors 33-25 Leinster Rugby | Scotstoun Stadium | Sky

3. 16/09/2016 | 19:00 | Cardiff Blues 23-19 Glasgow Warriors | Cardiff Arms Park | [Not on TV]
4. 23/09/2016 | 19:35 | Glasgow Warriors 17-22 Ulster Rugby | Scotstoun Stadium | ALBA/BBCNI
5. 30/09/2016 | 19:35 | Newport Gwent Dragons 17-26 Glasgow Warriors | Rodney Parade | BBCW/ALBA
6. 08/10/2016 | 17:05 | Zebre Rugby 28-33 Glasgow Warriors | Stadio Sergio Lanfranchi | TBC


Fixtures
7. 28/10/2016 | 19:35 | Glasgow Warriors v Benetton Treviso | Scotstoun Stadium | BBC ALBA
8. 05/11/2016 | 19:35 | Scarlets v Glasgow Warriors | Parc y Scarlets | S4C/BBC ALBA
9. 25/11/2016 | 19:35 | Glasgow Warriors v Ospreys | Scotstoun Stadium | Sky
10. 02/12/2016 | 19:35 | Glasgow Warriors v Munster Rugby | Scotstoun Stadium | BBC ALBA/TG4
11. 26/12/2016 | 16:05 | Edinburgh Rugby v Glasgow Warriors | BT Murrayfield | BBC ALBA
12. 31/12/2016 | 14:00 | Benetton Treviso v Glasgow Warriors | Stadio Monigo | TBC/BBC ALBA
13. 07/01/2017 | 19:35 | Glasgow Warriors v Cardiff Blues | Scotstoun Stadium | BBC ALBA/S4C
14. 10/11/12 Feb | TBC | Glasgow Warriors v Scarlets | Scotstoun Stadium | TBC
15. 17/18/19 Feb | TBC | Ulster Rugby v Glasgow Warriors | Kingspan Stadium | TBC
16. 24/25/26 Feb | TBC | Ospreys v Glasgow Warriors | Liberty Stadium | TBC
17. 03/04/05 Mar | TBC | Glasgow Warriors v Newport Gwent Dragons | Scotstoun Stadium | TBC
18. 24/25/26 Mar | TBC | Glasgow Warriors v Connacht Rugby | Scotstoun Stadium | TBC
19. 07/08/09 Apr | TBC | Munster Rugby v Glasgow Warriors | Irish Independent Park | TBC
20. 14/04/2017 | 19:35 | Glasgow Warriors v Zebre Rugby | Scotstoun Stadium | BBC ALBA
21. 28/29/30 Apr | TBC | Leinster Rugby v Glasgow Warriors | RDS Arena  |  TBC
22. 06/05/2017 | 17:15 | Glasgow Warriors v Edinburgh Rugby | Scotstoun Stadium | TBC


Youtube playlist of all of Glasgow's Pro12 action here.

Europe


Champions Cup - Glasgow Warriors   (click to show/hide):

14/10/2016 | 19:45 | Glasgow Warriors 42-13 Leicester Tigers | Scotstoun Stadium |  BT Sport / beIN Sports
22/10/2016 | 13:00 | Munster Rugby v Glasgow Warriors | Thomond Park |  Sky Sports / beIN Sports
10/12/2016 | 16:15 | Racing 92 v Glasgow Warriors | Stade Yves-Du-Manoir | beIN Sports / BT Sport
16/12/2016 | 19:45 | Glasgow Warriors v Racing 92 | Scotstoun Stadium | BT Sport / beIN Sports
13/14/15 Jan | TBC | Glasgow Warriors v Munster Rugby | Scotstoun Stadium | TBC
20/21/22 Jan | TBC | Leicester Tigers v Glasgow Warriors | Welford Road | TBC


Challenge Cup - Edinburgh   (click to show/hide):

15/10/2016 | 15:00 | Timisoara Saracens 17-59 Edinburgh Rugby | Dan Paltinisanu Stadium | TBC
22/10/2016 | 15:15 | Edinburgh Rugby v Harlequins | BT Murrayfield Stadium | BT Sport
10/12/2016 | 19:45 | Edinburgh Rugby v Stade Francais Paris | BT Murrayfield Stadium | FR4
15/12/2016 | 20:45 | Stade Francais Paris v Edinburgh Rugby | Stade Jean Bouin | beIN Sports
12/13/14/15 Jan | TBC |  Harlequins v Edinburgh Rugby | The Twickenham Stoop | TBC    *no link
19/20/21/22 Jan | TBC |  Edinburgh Rugby v Timisoara Saracens | Myreside | TBC     *no link



1872 Cup



Champions                Runner up
Edinburgh                  Glasgow Warriors
 

1872 Cup - Past Results   (click to show/hide):

2007–08
28 December 2007, Murrayfield Stadium, Edinburgh 35–31 Glasgow Warriors
11 April 2008, Firhill Stadium, Glasgow Warriors 23–14 Edinburgh
Winner: Glasgow Warriors 54–49

2008–09
26 December 2008, Murrayfield Stadium, Edinburgh 39–6 Glasgow Warriors
2 January 2009, Firhill Stadium, Glasgow Warriors 25–20 Edinburgh
Winner: Edinburgh 59–31

2009–10
27 December 2009, Firhill Stadium, Glasgow Warriors 25–12 Edinburgh
2 January 2010, Murrayfield Stadium, Edinburgh 15–22 Glasgow Warriors
Winner: Glasgow Warriors 47–27

2010–11
27 December 2010, Firhill Stadium, Glasgow Warriors 30–18 Edinburgh
2 January 2011, Murrayfield Stadium, Edinburgh 28–17 Glasgow Warriors
Winner: Glasgow Warriors 47–46

2011–12
26 December 2011, Murrayfield Stadium, Edinburgh 23–23 Glasgow Warriors
1 January 2012, Firhill Stadium, Glasgow Warriors 17–12 Edinburgh
Winner: Glasgow Warriors 40–35

2012–13
21 December 2012, Scotstoun Stadium, Glasgow Warriors 23–14 Edinburgh
29 December 2012, Murrayfield Stadium, Edinburgh 17–21 Glasgow Warriors
Winner: Glasgow Warriors 44–31

2013–14
26 December 2013, Murrayfield Stadium, Edinburgh 16–20 Glasgow Warriors
26 April 2014, Scotstoun Stadium, Glasgow Warriors 37–34 Edinburgh  (postponed from 1st Jan due to waterlogged pitch)
Winner: Glasgow 57–50

2014–15
27 December 2014, Scotstoun Stadium, Glasgow Warriors 16–6 Edinburgh
2 January 2015, Murrayfield Stadium, Edinburgh 20–8 Glasgow Warriors
Winner: Edinburgh 26–24

2015–16
27 December 2015, Murrayfield Stadium, Edinburgh 23–11 Glasgow Warriors
2 January 2016, Murrayfield Stadium, Glasgow Warriors 11–14 Edinburgh (moved from Scotstoun due to waterlogged pitch)
Winner: Edinburgh 37–22

Winners tally
Glasgow Warriors - 6
Edinburgh - 3

The season has commenced



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Re: Glasgow and Edinburgh: Ongoing Banter Thread XIII - Camp Crystal Meth

Post by Hazel Sapling on Wed 07 Dec 2016, 4:45 pm

funnyExiledScot wrote:
tigertattie wrote:
Hazel Sapling wrote:
tigertattie wrote:leadership and ability, both are sorely missing from our game when you remove the first XV from the equation!

try it!

List who you would have as your match day squad for Scotland, then pretend they are not available and try to put out another squad! You'll struggle!

For Glasgow you mean?

Reid
Flynn
Rae (assuming Fagerson is now ahead of Welsh)
Swinson
Brian
Harley
Fusaro
Strauss
Price (Pyrgos depending on pecking order)
Horne (Clegg depending on how you rate Jackson)
Hughes
Johnson
Vernon
Jones
Murchie

Malcolm
Allan
Nicol
Cummings/Uanivi
Wilson/Wynne/Blake
Hart
Clegg (Lyle?)
Griggs

Of those at least 6 are presently injured and Scotland injuries have dragged Allan, Wilson, Price and Swinson away at various points. Glasgow get absolutely destroyed in the backs from call ups although Edinburgh are producing more forwards. It will even up soon one hopes.

Well you can do it for Glasgow, but I was really meaning for Scotland!

If you take out our best players in each position, the drop in quality to the next person on the list is vast!

Look at some examples
Hartley is unavailable for England, so they turn to Jamie George
Kuris is goosed so they turn to Launchbury

or Ireland
SOB is goosed so they go to Stander

or Oz
Foley is knackered so they bring in Cooper

For us
If Dancer is goosed, we look to Horne or meatball!
If Ickle Johnny is injured, we turn to Tim Swinson
If Hogg is out, we look Murchie (or move no Maits)
If Seymour is injured it's Rory Hughs or Hoyland!

Currently it's only centre where we have any real depth!


It's a fair point you're making, but I'd also add openside to the list of "depth" positions. Hardie and Watson are two handy specialists, and I think there's little to choose between them after this AI series. There is, of course, also the option of John Barclay at 7. He's played a fair bit before in that position.

You are looking at ideals. England lose Farrell who is the starting 12? They are so poor in the centres at the moment that after Farrell the present choices are 36 and Burrell. After Joseph, Daly is being tried, Slade has not been given time and Marchant may be the new starter. Who plays 7 for England? Haskell or Robshaw both 6's who can play 7. England have the 2nd or 3rd most depth of any nation and they are struggling to get 3 deep at centre (Tuilagi is not an option til he plays 5 games in a row (the Gilchrist rule)), OS, FB and SH (I like Simpson-Daniel but he is not utilised and beyond Care is unproven). They have better depth than Scotland by a long way.

Okay Scotland starting 23 taken out

Dickinson     Dell
Ford            McInally
Nel             Welsh
Gray           Swinson
Gray           Toolis
Barclay        Harley
Hardie         Watson
Denton        Strauss

Laidlaw        Pyrgos
Russell         Jackson
Seymour      Visser
Dunbar         Scott
Bennett        H Jones
Maitland       Hoyland
Hogg           Kinghorn

Brown          MacArthur/Malcolm
Sutherland    Allan
Fagerson      Low
Gilchrist       Cummings
Bradbury      Wilson
Price           Kennedy/Hart
Horne          Weir/Heathcote
Taylor          Hughes

Quick note: Realised after posting 4 of my present starting pack and 1 sub were injured. Only 1 of the backs was out.

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Re: Glasgow and Edinburgh: Ongoing Banter Thread XIII - Camp Crystal Meth

Post by George Carlin on Thu 08 Dec 2016, 5:55 am

1,001 posts.

Well done everyone. And also, obviously, we should all be ashamed of ourselves.

Anyone fancy doing thread number 14? Mesmeric has set a very high standard...
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Re: Glasgow and Edinburgh: Ongoing Banter Thread XIII - Camp Crystal Meth

Post by RDW_Scotland on Thu 08 Dec 2016, 8:26 am

It was the Scottish schools cup final last night with Smellies edging out Dollar with a last play of the game score after Dollar kicked the ball dead thinking it was full-time.

Star of the show was flying winger Jacob Lineen whose father is a certain grandslam winner!


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Re: Glasgow and Edinburgh: Ongoing Banter Thread XIII - Camp Crystal Meth

Post by BigGee on Thu 08 Dec 2016, 8:53 am

RDW_Scotland wrote:It was the Scottish schools cup final last night with Smellies edging out Dollar with a last play of the game score after Dollar kicked the ball dead thinking it was full-time.

Star of the show was flying winger Jacob Lineen whose father is a certainly grandslam winner!

That sounds like just the sort of thing that Scotland would do!


Young Lineen certainly has some pedigree, father played for Scotland and Grandfather for the All Blacks. Hope to see him continue to shine as he moves on in the game.

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Re: Glasgow and Edinburgh: Ongoing Banter Thread XIII - Camp Crystal Meth

Post by funnyExiledScot on Thu 08 Dec 2016, 10:34 am

I read the match report in the Scotsman. Sounds like young Lineen is a handy prospect.

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Re: Glasgow and Edinburgh: Ongoing Banter Thread XIII - Camp Crystal Meth

Post by SirBurger on Thu 08 Dec 2016, 11:14 am

Hazel Sapling wrote:

You are looking at ideals. England lose Farrell who is the starting 12? They are so poor in the centres at the moment that after Farrell the present choices are 36 and Burrell. After Joseph, Daly is being tried, Slade has not been given time and Marchant may be the new starter. Who plays 7 for England? Haskell or Robshaw both 6's who can play 7. England have the 2nd or 3rd most depth of any nation and they are struggling to get 3 deep at centre (Tuilagi is not an option til he plays 5 games in a row (the Gilchrist rule)), OS, FB and SH (I like Simpson-Daniel but he is not utilised and beyond Care is unproven).

I am guessing you mean Joe Simpson and not James Simpson-Daniel the former England winger who retired a few years ago!

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Re: Glasgow and Edinburgh: Ongoing Banter Thread XIII - Camp Crystal Meth

Post by Hazel Sapling on Thu 08 Dec 2016, 11:47 am

Where am I getting Simpson Daniel from? I have not heard of the winger. Wasps scrum half Joe Simpson.


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Re: Glasgow and Edinburgh: Ongoing Banter Thread XIII - Camp Crystal Meth

Post by funnyExiledScot on Thu 08 Dec 2016, 12:44 pm

I like Simpson as well, but his scrum half basics can go awry at times. He's a wonderful attacking scrum half from the base of the scrum, with great pace, but every now and then you watch him play and the poor fly half is left guessing as to whether the next pass will be aimed at his shoe-laces or above his head.

Still, the point you make is entirely fair. England's 3rd string XV would give our 1st XV a run for its money.

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Re: Glasgow and Edinburgh: Ongoing Banter Thread XIII - Camp Crystal Meth

Post by Hazel Sapling on Thu 08 Dec 2016, 1:06 pm

Englands 3rd string? I don't even know who that would be! My guess is below

Genge
George
Hill
Ewels
Attwood
Wood?
Kvesic
Morgan

Simpson
Cipriani
Sharples
Burrell
Slade
Ashton
Foden

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Re: Glasgow and Edinburgh: Ongoing Banter Thread XIII - Camp Crystal Meth

Post by RDW_Scotland on Thu 08 Dec 2016, 1:20 pm

I'd like to think we could comfortably beat them!

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Re: Glasgow and Edinburgh: Ongoing Banter Thread XIII - Camp Crystal Meth

Post by tigertattie on Thu 08 Dec 2016, 4:46 pm

I take it we don't need to lock threads after 1000 posts these days?
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Post by RDW_Scotland on Thu 08 Dec 2016, 4:55 pm

We will need to soon - the exact number is uknown but it will happen soon.

Well volunteered for a thread tattie!

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Post by 123456789 on Fri 09 Dec 2016, 2:31 am

Saw the Schools cup final attracted a crowd of around 5000, makes you wonder why Edinburgh can't get more in. The Scottish varsity game got in over 10,000 having dispatched over 10,000 tickets. Obviously these are one off games but they were largely attended by young enthusiastic rugby fans.
Makes you think as well that with three universities in Edinburgh, one just outside and with St. Andrews just an hour by train away they could tap into this base. A £10-20 ticket with a drink voucher or two included would be very popular.
The Varsity game was largely student advertised; Edinburgh could come up with a similar system that many up and coming companies do. These companies give incentives to individuals to advertise their products. If Edinburgh gave free tickets to about 100 people from each uni with some sort of incentive for tickets sold they could easily create quite the buzz, or even a small ripple but with very little risk.
When you think that the Varsity game was barely touched on in the media as well yet was attended by a crowd three times as large; it was, by all accounts, advertised on social media and if Edinburgh could tap into that even slightly they might see a huge improvement.

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