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Edinburgh - Fixtures & Results   (click to show/hide):

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Results
1. 03/09/2016 | 19:35 | Cardiff Blues 34 - 16 Edinburgh Rugby | Cardiff Arms Park | BBC ALBA
2. 09/09/2016 | 19:35 | Edinburgh Rugby 20-9 Scarlets | BT Murrayfield | BBC ALBA
3. 16/09/2016 | 19:35 | Edinburgh Rugby 20-33 Leinster Rugby | BT Murrayfield | BBC ALBA/TG4
4. 24/09/2016 | 15:00 | Munster Rugby 28-14 Edinburgh | Rugby Thomond Park | Sky
5. 30/09/2016 | 19:35 | Connacht Rugby 28-15 Edinburgh Rugby | Galway Sportsground | TG4
6. 07/10/2016 | 19:35 | Edinburgh Rugby 45-10 Benetton Treviso | BT Murrayfield | BBC ALBA

Fixtures
7. 28/10/2016 | 19:35 | Edinburgh Rugby v Zebre Rugby | BT Murrayfield
8. 04/11/2016 | 19:35 | Edinburgh Rugby v Ulster Rugby | BT Murrayfield | BBC ALBA/BBCNI
9. 27/11/2016 | 15:30 | Newport Gwent Dragons v Edinburgh Rugby | Rodney Parade | S4C
10. 02/12/2016 | 19:35 | Ospreys v Edinburgh Rugby | Liberty Stadium | BBCW
11. 26/12/2016 | 16:05 | Edinburgh Rugby v Glasgow Warriors | BT Murrayfield | BBC ALBA
12. 31/12/2016 | TBC | Zebre Rugby v Edinburgh Rugby | Stadio Sergio Lanfranchi | TBC
13. 07/01/2017 | 15:00 | Edinburgh Rugby v Munster Rugby | Myreside | Sky
14. 10/11/12 Feb | TBC | Ulster Rugby v Edinburgh Rugby | Kingspan Stadium | TBC
15. 17/18/19 Feb | TBC | Leinster Rugby v Edinburgh Rugby | RDS Arena | TBC
16. 24/25/26 Feb | TBC | Edinburgh Rugby v Cardiff Blues | Myreside | TBC
17. 03/04/05 Mar | TBC | Edinburgh Rugby v Ospreys | Myreside | TBC
18. 24/25/26 Mar | TBC | Scarlets v Edinburgh Rugby | Parc y Scarlets | TBC
19. 07/08/09 Apr | TBC | Edinburgh Rugby v Connacht Rugby | Myreside | TBC
20. 15/04/2017 | 20:05 | Benetton Treviso v Edinburgh Rugby | Stadio Monigo | TBC
21. 28/29/30 Apr | TBC | Edinburgh Rugby v Newport Gwent Dragons | Myreside | TBC
22. 06/05/2017 | 17:15 | Glasgow Warriors v Edinburgh Rugby | Scotstoun Stadium | TBC


Youtube playlist of all of Edinburgh's Pro12 action here.

Glasgow Warriors - Fixtures & Results   (click to show/hide):

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Results
1. 03/09/2016 | 17:35 | Connacht Rugby 5-41 Glasgow Warriors | Galway Sportsground | Sky
2. 10/09/2016 | 15:00 | Glasgow Warriors 33-25 Leinster Rugby | Scotstoun Stadium | Sky

3. 16/09/2016 | 19:00 | Cardiff Blues 23-19 Glasgow Warriors | Cardiff Arms Park | [Not on TV]
4. 23/09/2016 | 19:35 | Glasgow Warriors 17-22 Ulster Rugby | Scotstoun Stadium | ALBA/BBCNI
5. 30/09/2016 | 19:35 | Newport Gwent Dragons 17-26 Glasgow Warriors | Rodney Parade | BBCW/ALBA
6. 08/10/2016 | 17:05 | Zebre Rugby 28-33 Glasgow Warriors | Stadio Sergio Lanfranchi | TBC


Fixtures
7. 28/10/2016 | 19:35 | Glasgow Warriors v Benetton Treviso | Scotstoun Stadium | BBC ALBA
8. 05/11/2016 | 19:35 | Scarlets v Glasgow Warriors | Parc y Scarlets | S4C/BBC ALBA
9. 25/11/2016 | 19:35 | Glasgow Warriors v Ospreys | Scotstoun Stadium | Sky
10. 02/12/2016 | 19:35 | Glasgow Warriors v Munster Rugby | Scotstoun Stadium | BBC ALBA/TG4
11. 26/12/2016 | 16:05 | Edinburgh Rugby v Glasgow Warriors | BT Murrayfield | BBC ALBA
12. 31/12/2016 | 14:00 | Benetton Treviso v Glasgow Warriors | Stadio Monigo | TBC/BBC ALBA
13. 07/01/2017 | 19:35 | Glasgow Warriors v Cardiff Blues | Scotstoun Stadium | BBC ALBA/S4C
14. 10/11/12 Feb | TBC | Glasgow Warriors v Scarlets | Scotstoun Stadium | TBC
15. 17/18/19 Feb | TBC | Ulster Rugby v Glasgow Warriors | Kingspan Stadium | TBC
16. 24/25/26 Feb | TBC | Ospreys v Glasgow Warriors | Liberty Stadium | TBC
17. 03/04/05 Mar | TBC | Glasgow Warriors v Newport Gwent Dragons | Scotstoun Stadium | TBC
18. 24/25/26 Mar | TBC | Glasgow Warriors v Connacht Rugby | Scotstoun Stadium | TBC
19. 07/08/09 Apr | TBC | Munster Rugby v Glasgow Warriors | Irish Independent Park | TBC
20. 14/04/2017 | 19:35 | Glasgow Warriors v Zebre Rugby | Scotstoun Stadium | BBC ALBA
21. 28/29/30 Apr | TBC | Leinster Rugby v Glasgow Warriors | RDS Arena  |  TBC
22. 06/05/2017 | 17:15 | Glasgow Warriors v Edinburgh Rugby | Scotstoun Stadium | TBC


Youtube playlist of all of Glasgow's Pro12 action here.

Europe


Champions Cup - Glasgow Warriors   (click to show/hide):

14/10/2016 | 19:45 | Glasgow Warriors 42-13 Leicester Tigers | Scotstoun Stadium |  BT Sport / beIN Sports
22/10/2016 | 13:00 | Munster Rugby v Glasgow Warriors | Thomond Park |  Sky Sports / beIN Sports
10/12/2016 | 16:15 | Racing 92 v Glasgow Warriors | Stade Yves-Du-Manoir | beIN Sports / BT Sport
16/12/2016 | 19:45 | Glasgow Warriors v Racing 92 | Scotstoun Stadium | BT Sport / beIN Sports
13/14/15 Jan | TBC | Glasgow Warriors v Munster Rugby | Scotstoun Stadium | TBC
20/21/22 Jan | TBC | Leicester Tigers v Glasgow Warriors | Welford Road | TBC


Challenge Cup - Edinburgh   (click to show/hide):

15/10/2016 | 15:00 | Timisoara Saracens 17-59 Edinburgh Rugby | Dan Paltinisanu Stadium | TBC
22/10/2016 | 15:15 | Edinburgh Rugby v Harlequins | BT Murrayfield Stadium | BT Sport
10/12/2016 | 19:45 | Edinburgh Rugby v Stade Francais Paris | BT Murrayfield Stadium | FR4
15/12/2016 | 20:45 | Stade Francais Paris v Edinburgh Rugby | Stade Jean Bouin | beIN Sports
12/13/14/15 Jan | TBC |  Harlequins v Edinburgh Rugby | The Twickenham Stoop | TBC    *no link
19/20/21/22 Jan | TBC |  Edinburgh Rugby v Timisoara Saracens | Myreside | TBC     *no link



1872 Cup



Champions                Runner up
Edinburgh                  Glasgow Warriors
 

1872 Cup - Past Results   (click to show/hide):

2007–08
28 December 2007, Murrayfield Stadium, Edinburgh 35–31 Glasgow Warriors
11 April 2008, Firhill Stadium, Glasgow Warriors 23–14 Edinburgh
Winner: Glasgow Warriors 54–49

2008–09
26 December 2008, Murrayfield Stadium, Edinburgh 39–6 Glasgow Warriors
2 January 2009, Firhill Stadium, Glasgow Warriors 25–20 Edinburgh
Winner: Edinburgh 59–31

2009–10
27 December 2009, Firhill Stadium, Glasgow Warriors 25–12 Edinburgh
2 January 2010, Murrayfield Stadium, Edinburgh 15–22 Glasgow Warriors
Winner: Glasgow Warriors 47–27

2010–11
27 December 2010, Firhill Stadium, Glasgow Warriors 30–18 Edinburgh
2 January 2011, Murrayfield Stadium, Edinburgh 28–17 Glasgow Warriors
Winner: Glasgow Warriors 47–46

2011–12
26 December 2011, Murrayfield Stadium, Edinburgh 23–23 Glasgow Warriors
1 January 2012, Firhill Stadium, Glasgow Warriors 17–12 Edinburgh
Winner: Glasgow Warriors 40–35

2012–13
21 December 2012, Scotstoun Stadium, Glasgow Warriors 23–14 Edinburgh
29 December 2012, Murrayfield Stadium, Edinburgh 17–21 Glasgow Warriors
Winner: Glasgow Warriors 44–31

2013–14
26 December 2013, Murrayfield Stadium, Edinburgh 16–20 Glasgow Warriors
26 April 2014, Scotstoun Stadium, Glasgow Warriors 37–34 Edinburgh  (postponed from 1st Jan due to waterlogged pitch)
Winner: Glasgow 57–50

2014–15
27 December 2014, Scotstoun Stadium, Glasgow Warriors 16–6 Edinburgh
2 January 2015, Murrayfield Stadium, Edinburgh 20–8 Glasgow Warriors
Winner: Edinburgh 26–24

2015–16
27 December 2015, Murrayfield Stadium, Edinburgh 23–11 Glasgow Warriors
2 January 2016, Murrayfield Stadium, Glasgow Warriors 11–14 Edinburgh (moved from Scotstoun due to waterlogged pitch)
Winner: Edinburgh 37–22

Winners tally
Glasgow Warriors - 6
Edinburgh - 3

The season has commenced



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Re: Glasgow and Edinburgh: Ongoing Banter Thread XIII - Camp Crystal Meth

Post by RossAnderson on Wed 02 Nov 2016, 7:33 pm

Surprised they have rescinded both (although I agree with the decision). Got to be pretty embarrassing for both ref and Tmo given how long and many angles they got to see.

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Re: Glasgow and Edinburgh: Ongoing Banter Thread XIII - Camp Crystal Meth

Post by RDW_Scotland on Thu 03 Nov 2016, 11:28 am

Edinburgh Rugby today announced the signing of 21-year old tighthead prop Kyle Whyte until the end of the season.

Kyle Whyte

South-African born prop Whyte will become Edinburgh Rugby’s first partnership contract player in a deal with BT Premiership club Watsonians.

He played for Western Province at U19 and U21 level before breaking into the senior side where he featured in seven games last season, when the Cape Town side reached the Currie Cup semi-finals.

Whyte is also eligible to play for Scotland through his father, Steve, who was born and brought up in Inverness.

On signing with the capital club, Whyte said: “It’s a very exciting time and prospect for me.

“With my dad being born here, I’ve always been interested in coming over to Scotland, so I’m looking forward to getting started and proving myself.”

He added:

“The coaching staff and boys have been very welcoming, which has helped me fit straight into the team. I’ve really enjoyed my first couple of days training.

“If I’m not selected to play for Edinburgh at the weekend, it’s good to know I’ve got a club in Watsonians which will help me to get some good quality game time and improve as a player.

“To have the opportunity to train with the likes of WP [Nel] is very exciting. He’s someone in particular I’m keen to learn from and look to for hints and tips on the art of scrummaging.”

Edinburgh Rugby Acting Head Coach, Duncan Hodge, said: “We’re delighted to have another young, talented prop enter the fray to compete for a spot in the team.

“Since arriving last week, Kyle has fitted in well, trained hard, and has readily embraced the Edinburgh Rugby culture and ethos.

“It’s exciting to have a partnership contracted player at the club and we feel that Kyle will reap the benefits in terms of his development in spending time with Edinburgh Rugby and Watsonians.”

Keith Watters, President of Watsonians FC, added:

“We are delighted that Kyle has joined Watsonians and look forward to seeing him in action.”

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Re: Glasgow and Edinburgh: Ongoing Banter Thread XIII - Camp Crystal Meth

Post by des on Thu 03 Nov 2016, 12:15 pm

Team's up but in a video which is annoying.

To summarise, weak front row with weaker bench aside from McInally.

Ritchie at 7 with no real backup.

Mckenzie starts and Gilco's not on the bench.

Duncan Weir is on the bench to screw things up if we happen to find ourselves in front with 20 minutes to go.

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Post by des on Thu 03 Nov 2016, 12:16 pm

We will not be winning this.

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Re: Glasgow and Edinburgh: Ongoing Banter Thread XIII - Camp Crystal Meth

Post by RDW_Scotland on Thu 03 Nov 2016, 12:18 pm


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Re: Glasgow and Edinburgh: Ongoing Banter Thread XIII - Camp Crystal Meth

Post by des on Thu 03 Nov 2016, 12:20 pm

And here was me thinking we weren't going to bother anymore.

Or was that the problem last week?

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Post by RDW_Scotland on Thu 03 Nov 2016, 12:21 pm

That was last week against Zebre. I'm glad we didn't!

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Re: Glasgow and Edinburgh: Ongoing Banter Thread XIII - Camp Crystal Meth

Post by funnyExiledScot on Thu 03 Nov 2016, 12:47 pm

RDW_Scotland wrote:
Edinburgh Rugby Acting Head Coach, Duncan Hodge, said: “We’re delighted to have another young, talented prop enter the fray to compete for a spot in the team.


Do you think he really means this??

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Post by RDW_Scotland on Thu 03 Nov 2016, 12:48 pm

Well he's straight onto the bench, so in a few days since arriving at the club he's become our 2nd best tighthead available!

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Post by RDW_Scotland on Thu 03 Nov 2016, 1:05 pm

Andy Robinson is getting the boot

http://www.itv.com/news/update/2016-11-03/bristol-suspend-director-of-rugby-robinson/

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Re: Glasgow and Edinburgh: Ongoing Banter Thread XIII - Camp Crystal Meth

Post by George Carlin on Thu 03 Nov 2016, 2:18 pm

funnyExiledScot wrote:
RDW_Scotland wrote:
Edinburgh Rugby Acting Head Coach, Duncan Hodge, said: “We’re delighted to have another young, talented prop enter the fray to compete for a spot in the team.


Do you think he really means this??
Do they really have to refer to him in press releases as 'Acting' head coach?

Was he the Uncaveated Head Coach until the Zebre performance?

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Post by MacKnocked-on on Thu 03 Nov 2016, 2:33 pm

Am I correct in thinking that both Edinburgh's sub props are tightheads?

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Re: Glasgow and Edinburgh: Ongoing Banter Thread XIII - Camp Crystal Meth

Post by RDW_Scotland on Thu 03 Nov 2016, 2:35 pm

Arregui can cover loosehead apparently.

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Post by funnyExiledScot on Thu 03 Nov 2016, 2:54 pm

RDW_Scotland wrote:Arregui can cover loosehead apparently.

It reminds me of being asked by my MD whether I could "cover" intellectual property law for 6 months last year. Other than having no training in the subject, no experience and no particular inclination to accumulate either, I said "sure, no problem".

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Post by funnyExiledScot on Thu 03 Nov 2016, 2:56 pm

George Carlin wrote:
funnyExiledScot wrote:
RDW_Scotland wrote:
Edinburgh Rugby Acting Head Coach, Duncan Hodge, said: “We’re delighted to have another young, talented prop enter the fray to compete for a spot in the team.


Do you think he really means this??
Do they really have to refer to him in press releases as 'Acting' head coach?

Was he the Uncaveated Head Coach until the Zebre performance?

Well, I suspect he'll be demoted to "Edinburgh Rugby Temporary Acting Head Coach" as of about 10pm on Friday evening.

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Post by tigertattie on Thu 03 Nov 2016, 3:20 pm

funnyExiledScot wrote:
George Carlin wrote:
funnyExiledScot wrote:
RDW_Scotland wrote:
Edinburgh Rugby Acting Head Coach, Duncan Hodge, said: “We’re delighted to have another young, talented prop enter the fray to compete for a spot in the team.


Do you think he really means this??
Do they really have to refer to him in press releases as 'Acting' head coach?

Was he the Uncaveated Head Coach until the Zebre performance?

Well, I suspect he'll be demoted to "Edinburgh Rugby Temporary Acting Head Coach" as of about 10pm on Friday evening.

Think Robbo could be making a return?

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Post by RossAnderson on Thu 03 Nov 2016, 7:33 pm

Nick de Luca is starting for wasps this weekend. Scotland comeback on the cards? Laugh

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Post by BigGee on Fri 04 Nov 2016, 1:27 am

RossAnderson wrote:Nick de Luca is starting for wasps this weekend. Scotland comeback on the cards? Laugh

The good old Anglo - Welsh cup, show casing the B teams of both leagues.

We might see a few of the up and coming Scottish players, as well as the old lags, getting a run out for their clubs in this competition. Hastings, Davidson, Hutchinson amongst others and will hopefully get their chance to impress.

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Post by demosthenes on Fri 04 Nov 2016, 8:07 am

BigGee wrote:
RossAnderson wrote:Nick de Luca is starting for wasps this weekend. Scotland comeback on the cards? Laugh

The good old Anglo - Welsh cup, show casing the B teams of both leagues.

We might see a few of the up and coming Scottish players, as well as the old lags, getting a run out for their clubs in this competition. Hastings, Davidson, Hutchinson amongst others and will hopefully get their chance to impress.
Pretty sure I heard that Hastings is in the Bath squad, if not starting, this weekend.

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Post by RDW_Scotland on Fri 04 Nov 2016, 8:19 am

Hastings is starting at 10 for Bath.

Tomas Leonardi is number 8 for Leicester...!

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Post by RDW_Scotland on Fri 04 Nov 2016, 8:21 am

http://www.scotsman.com/sport/rugby-union/scotland/jonny-gray-said-no-to-toulon-to-stay-at-glasgow-warriors-1-4277652

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Post by funnyExiledScot on Fri 04 Nov 2016, 10:55 am

RDW_Scotland wrote:Hastings is starting at 10 for Bath.

Tomas Leonardi is number 8 for Leicester...!

That really is remarkable!

Fingers crossed that Hastings is all we hope he is.

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Post by nickj on Fri 04 Nov 2016, 10:57 am

I posted this in the 'Scottish player list' post in the International section yesterday, but Wasps's 10 for tonight's game, Connor Eastgate, seems to be a Scots exile. He and Josh Bassett are playing alongside De Luca.

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Post by funnyExiledScot on Fri 04 Nov 2016, 12:26 pm

nickj wrote:I posted this in the 'Scottish player list' post in the International section yesterday, but Wasps's 10 for tonight's game, Connor Eastgate, seems to be a Scots exile. He and Josh Bassett are playing alongside De Luca.

Well they'll know they've made it to the big time now - one to tell the grand kids about!!

I've watched the obligatory YouTube video on Josh Bassett and he looks powerful. Never heard of Eastgate.

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Post by nickj on Fri 04 Nov 2016, 12:43 pm

Bassett looks postively Stanger esque

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Post by bsando on Mon 07 Nov 2016, 5:11 pm

Would Andy Robinson be a possible replacement for Solomons? I was surprised to see him be sacked at Bristol but results had been continuously poor. It is my understanding that Bristol have been dealing with several injuries however.

I think he would be a good stable addition to the coaching team. I'm sure he would relish the chance to work with some of Edinburghs forwards and perhaps himself and hodge would make a good team?

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Post by RDW_Scotland on Mon 07 Nov 2016, 5:31 pm

Stevie Scott has done a fantastic job with Edinburgh over the last few years - our pack has generally been very good even when results haven't been going well.

We had our most successful spell with him in charge (finishing 2nd in the league) but I just hope we could aim higher - especially given the caliber of coach Glasgow have managed to obtain.

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Post by funnyExiledScot on Tue 08 Nov 2016, 10:34 am

RDW_Scotland wrote:Stevie Scott has done a fantastic job with Edinburgh over the last few years - our pack has generally been very good even when results haven't been going well.

We had our most successful spell with him in charge (finishing 2nd in the league) but I just hope we could aim higher - especially given the caliber of coach Glasgow have managed to obtain.

He has, although the lineout should be a black mark.

I'd wish both Hodge and Scott well as candidates, but as you say I'd like to think we could do better in terms of a more proven coach.

A coach I have always rated highly, particularly for backline innovation, is Steve Meehan. He is currently an assistant coach at Toulon. Meehan in charge of the backs (with support from Hodge), Robinson in charge of the forwards (with support from Scott), and myself as Director of Rugby and in charge of picking the team. That's what I call a dream ticket.

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Post by Hazel Sapling on Tue 08 Nov 2016, 10:42 am

That could happen if you have a few million to give to the SRU, FES. Have to cut back on the caviar for a few weeks

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Post by funnyExiledScot on Tue 08 Nov 2016, 11:31 am

Am already living under the tyranny of austerity in fES towers. Mrs fES has taken full control of the weekly internet shop. Dark times.

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Post by RDW_Scotland on Tue 08 Nov 2016, 12:38 pm

funnyExiledScot wrote:
RDW_Scotland wrote:Stevie Scott has done a fantastic job with Edinburgh over the last few years - our pack has generally been very good even when results haven't been going well.

We had our most successful spell with him in charge (finishing 2nd in the league) but I just hope we could aim higher - especially given the caliber of coach Glasgow have managed to obtain.

He has, although the lineout should be a black mark.

I'd wish both Hodge and Scott well as candidates, but as you say I'd like to think we could do better in terms of a more proven coach.

A coach I have always rated highly, particularly for backline innovation, is Steve Meehan. He is currently an assistant coach at Toulon. Meehan in charge of the backs (with support from Hodge), Robinson in charge of the forwards (with support from Scott), and myself as Director of Rugby and in charge of picking the team. That's what I call a dream ticket.

Up until this season our lineout has generally been outstanding - I think 2 seasons ago we had the best lineout stats in the league.  This was particularly the case when Bresler and Toolis were running the show. He has also overseen our scrum becoming once of the most dominant in the league (apart from this season...)

Unfortunately for Gilchrist the lineout has started malfunctioning when he came back from injury...

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Post by des on Tue 08 Nov 2016, 12:52 pm

RDW_Scotland wrote:
funnyExiledScot wrote:
RDW_Scotland wrote:Stevie Scott has done a fantastic job with Edinburgh over the last few years - our pack has generally been very good even when results haven't been going well.

We had our most successful spell with him in charge (finishing 2nd in the league) but I just hope we could aim higher - especially given the caliber of coach Glasgow have managed to obtain.

He has, although the lineout should be a black mark.

I'd wish both Hodge and Scott well as candidates, but as you say I'd like to think we could do better in terms of a more proven coach.

A coach I have always rated highly, particularly for backline innovation, is Steve Meehan. He is currently an assistant coach at Toulon. Meehan in charge of the backs (with support from Hodge), Robinson in charge of the forwards (with support from Scott), and myself as Director of Rugby and in charge of picking the team. That's what I call a dream ticket.

Up until this season our lineout has generally been outstanding - I think 2 seasons ago we had the best lineout stats in the league.  This was particularly the case when Bresler and Toolis were running the show. He has also overseen our scrum becoming once of the most dominant in the league (apart from this season...)

Unfortunately for Gilchrist the lineout has started malfunctioning when he came back from injury...

And started functioning again last week when he was absent.

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Post by tigertattie on Tue 08 Nov 2016, 2:59 pm

des wrote:
RDW_Scotland wrote:
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RDW_Scotland wrote:Stevie Scott has done a fantastic job with Edinburgh over the last few years - our pack has generally been very good even when results haven't been going well.

We had our most successful spell with him in charge (finishing 2nd in the league) but I just hope we could aim higher - especially given the caliber of coach Glasgow have managed to obtain.

He has, although the lineout should be a black mark.

I'd wish both Hodge and Scott well as candidates, but as you say I'd like to think we could do better in terms of a more proven coach.

A coach I have always rated highly, particularly for backline innovation, is Steve Meehan. He is currently an assistant coach at Toulon. Meehan in charge of the backs (with support from Hodge), Robinson in charge of the forwards (with support from Scott), and myself as Director of Rugby and in charge of picking the team. That's what I call a dream ticket.

Up until this season our lineout has generally been outstanding - I think 2 seasons ago we had the best lineout stats in the league.  This was particularly the case when Bresler and Toolis were running the show. He has also overseen our scrum becoming once of the most dominant in the league (apart from this season...)

Unfortunately for Gilchrist the lineout has started malfunctioning when he came back from injury...

And started functioning again last week when he was absent.

So we're saying that despite his leadership credentials, Gilchrist can't run a lineout?

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Post by RDW_Scotland on Tue 08 Nov 2016, 6:21 pm

Niko Matawalu has signed for Exeter until the end of the season - sounds like he's been injured lately but think it is fair to say his move to Bath hasn't been a success.

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Post by George Carlin on Tue 08 Nov 2016, 6:43 pm

RDW_Scotland wrote:Niko Matawalu has signed for Exeter until the end of the season - sounds like he's been injured lately but think it is fair to say his move to Bath hasn't been a success.
Completely wasted by a Bath coaching staff who had absolutely no idea how to use him.

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Post by TJ on Wed 09 Nov 2016, 4:28 pm

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RDW_Scotland wrote:Niko Matawalu has signed for Exeter until the end of the season - sounds like he's been injured lately but think it is fair to say his move to Bath hasn't been a success.
Completely wasted by a Bath coaching staff who had absolutely no idea how to use him.

Indeed. I remember a conversation with a Bath fan on here about NIko -what Bath needed was a starting SH - Niko is not the man. NIko you play against teams where you are looking for a bonus point or bring him on to change the way a game is going. A fantastic player but he is not and never will be the main starting SH for a premiership team. I thought it daft for both parties at the time

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Post by MacKnocked-on on Wed 09 Nov 2016, 7:34 pm

I've written about Matty Russell before but this was an incredible finish against England, it looks like he does have some downward pressure on the ball. Just signed a new contract with Warrington but the SRU would do worse than making an approach for him, a real talent; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=85pw-9l4-bU

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Post by tigertattie on Thu 10 Nov 2016, 9:59 am

MacKnocked-on wrote:I've written about Matty Russell before but this was an incredible finish against England, it looks like he does have some downward pressure on the ball. Just signed a new contract with Warrington but the SRU would do worse than making an approach for him, a real talent; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=85pw-9l4-bU

Sure he's good, but could he realistically displace Lee Jones?

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Post by TheMildlyFranticLlama on Thu 10 Nov 2016, 10:08 am

How many failed rugby league converts is too many?

I'm not convinced it is worth the time, effort and investment that is required for the statistically slim chances of unearthing a real gem personally. Plus, wouldn't it be better for the Scotland league team for him to stay where he is and help them develop?

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Post by RDW_Scotland on Thu 10 Nov 2016, 10:10 am

Neither Glasgow or Edinburgh are overly desperate for Scottish wingers either.

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Post by RDW_Scotland on Thu 10 Nov 2016, 11:15 am

Nathan Hines has been confirmed as following Vern Cotter to Montpelier next season.

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Post by Manky-Flanker on Thu 10 Nov 2016, 2:37 pm

MacKnocked-on wrote:I've written about Matty Russell before but this was an incredible finish against England, it looks like he does have some downward pressure on the ball. Just signed a new contract with Warrington but the SRU would do worse than making an approach for him, a real talent; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=85pw-9l4-bU

I don't think Matty Russell has had a good a season this year as he has previously, despite Warrington doing well. Lewis Tierney (Jason Robinson's lad) on the other hand has been impressive. Doubt either are thinking about Union though.

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Post by Manky-Flanker on Fri 11 Nov 2016, 9:56 pm

Great result for the Scotland Rugby League team against NZ, if anyone's interested Very Happy

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Post by EWT Spoons on Mon 14 Nov 2016, 7:11 am

Harlequins & Exeter are apparently interested in signing Hamish Watson when his contract is up in May. According to the Times.

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Post by George Carlin on Mon 14 Nov 2016, 7:19 am

EWT Spoons wrote:Harlequins & Exeter are apparently interested in signing Hamish Watson when his contract is up in May. According to the Times.
Quins makes sense. They don't have an openside. They only have Chris Robshaw. Very Happy

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Post by funnyExiledScot on Mon 14 Nov 2016, 9:46 am

George Carlin wrote:
RDW_Scotland wrote:Niko Matawalu has signed for Exeter until the end of the season - sounds like he's been injured lately but think it is fair to say his move to Bath hasn't been a success.
Completely wasted by a Bath coaching staff who had absolutely no idea how to use him.

Agreed. Matawalu is a poor scrum half unless you give him free reign to unleash his box of tricks and coach the team to expect the unexpected. If you expect him to play within a tight structured game then all you have is a scrum half with a poor box kick and frankly average distribution skills. He's almost the exact opposite of Peter Stringer!

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Post by RDW_Scotland on Mon 14 Nov 2016, 9:47 am

Both clubs would be a good fit for Watson, although I'd be sad to see him go. Would be a disaster if we lost both Watson and Hardie!

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Post by funnyExiledScot on Mon 14 Nov 2016, 9:52 am

RDW_Scotland wrote:Both clubs would be a good fit for Watson, although I'd be sad to see him go.  Would be a disaster if we lost both  Watson and Hardie!

It would, although I was impressed with James Ritchie in the 7 jersey against Ulster.

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Post by Hazel Sapling on Mon 14 Nov 2016, 9:55 am

I was shocked by that result MF. I could not find the channel for it (was it on sky or bbc?)

Watson or Hardie ought to be retained. Preferably Watson. Hardie more likely to have a choice of teams.

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Post by EWT Spoons on Mon 14 Nov 2016, 10:09 am

RDW_Scotland wrote:Both clubs would be a good fit for Watson, although I'd be sad to see him go.  Would be a disaster if we lost both  Watson and Hardie!

It would, but if the SRU are talking about the cost of running the pro teams increasing each year, our hands may be tied. Watson is an international player now and his contract demands would I suspect reflect that. Same with Hardie.

If we can offload two (in theory) expensive players to bring the like of Ritchie in, plus CDP can play at 7, then whilst weaker, we are still covered.

Don't get me wrong I would rather keep one or both of them, but it might not be possible for either.

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