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Post by CaledonianCraig on Sat 03 Sep 2016, 11:19 am

Can Murray and Evans make it four British in the Fourth Round. Both face totally different challenges. Murray faces Lorenzo who had a marathon match lasting almost five hours in the previous round whilst Evans faces dual slam winner Stan Wawrinka. Also Del Potro is in action as are Dimitrov and Kyrgios.
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Post by Mr Tom on Sat 03 Sep 2016, 12:42 pm

Hi all.

Came back on the forum a few weeks ago after a years hiatus bus was looking for help.

Could Konta win this thing? She is 20/1 but is that worth a each way punt?

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Post by Guest on Sat 03 Sep 2016, 3:01 pm

Murray expected to win. Evans expected to lose. Surely the gulf between Evans and Wawrinka is enormous so the best Evans can do is to make it competitive and to keep fighting right to the end. It would be nice if Evans could do a Konta and switch his tennis fortunes around by a change in mind set and commitment.

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Post by CaledonianCraig on Sat 03 Sep 2016, 3:09 pm

Mr Tom wrote:Hi all.

Came back on the forum a few weeks ago after a years hiatus bus was looking for help.

Could Konta win this thing? She is 20/1 but is that worth a each way punt?

That may be pushing it a bit to win it. Not totally out of the question but unlikely.
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Post by ListenUp on Sat 03 Sep 2016, 3:43 pm

I wonder if she can get to top 10 and maybe even into the WTA's final 8 thingy (sorry, can't remember what it's properly called).

I rarely look at WTA rankings so I don't know where the women stand points-wise or points-race-wise. I suppose Jo will have to win at least one more round to improve her actual ranking as she's defending last year's US Open points.

Actually I don't even know if WTA has a "race" like the ATP - or if it's the end of year rankings they use.

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Post by dummy_half on Sat 03 Sep 2016, 4:10 pm

Mr Tom wrote:Hi all.

Came back on the forum a few weeks ago after a years hiatus bus was looking for help.

Could Konta win this thing? She is 20/1 but is that worth a each way punt?

She's a good chance of reaching the semi-final - Sevastova next up, who is playing way above her ranking, and then either Keys or Wozniacki, both of whom I think she is in better recent form than. Likely then to have to get past Kerber or Kvitova in the SF and Serena in the final, which looks too much.

My impression with Konta is that she is now the sort of player who will normally beat those below her in the rankings, be competitive with those around her but struggles to make much of an impression against the absolute elite (top 3 or 4). Certainly a good two or three steps up from where she was at the start of last season.

WTA rankings are more clustered than the ATP - Only 400 points separated Keys in 9th and Konta in 14th before this tournament, and another couple of hundred gets you to 7th. Top 10 or possibly top 8 by season end is feasible.

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Post by CaledonianCraig on Sat 03 Sep 2016, 4:47 pm

Dominic Thiem handed a breadstick in the first set by Carreno Busta. Shocked
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Post by CaledonianCraig on Sat 03 Sep 2016, 5:13 pm

Thiem steadies the ship to go 5-3 up in the second set but cannot take a set point and Carreno Busta breaks and we are back on serve in the second set.
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Post by CaledonianCraig on Sat 03 Sep 2016, 5:23 pm

Thiem finally bags the second set to level the match up with the score 1-6 6-4.
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Post by CaledonianCraig on Sat 03 Sep 2016, 6:05 pm

It would seem that Thiem has things under control now as he leads 1-6 6-4 6-4.
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Post by Born Slippy on Sat 03 Sep 2016, 6:11 pm

This Babos v Halep match is high quality. Both playing some great stuff.

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Post by CaledonianCraig on Sat 03 Sep 2016, 6:14 pm

Born Slippy wrote:This Babos v Halep match is high quality. Both playing some great stuff.

It is indeed. Cracking match and both playing to a high standard.
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Post by Mr Tom on Sat 03 Sep 2016, 6:16 pm

Thanks for the help guys. I've put a £5 on and fingers crossed at 20/1 lol

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Post by CaledonianCraig on Sat 03 Sep 2016, 6:30 pm

Simona Halep came through in the end. Tough on Babos that she lost it on a double-fault. Great entertainment.
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Post by lags72 on Sat 03 Sep 2016, 7:30 pm

Early stages of JMDP v Ferrer.

Delpo leading 2-1 and up a break.

Tip for anyone thinking of tuning in : grab your sunglasses first - or you could be blinded by Delpo's outfit.

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Post by Born Slippy on Sat 03 Sep 2016, 7:57 pm

From 2-0 down, Ferrer won 5 games in a row but has just got broken back with a DF - Potro serving at 4-5. Weird set.

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Post by CaledonianCraig on Sat 03 Sep 2016, 7:58 pm

Born Slippy wrote:From 2-0 down, Ferrer won 5 games in a row but has just got broken back with a DF - Potro serving at 4-5. Weird set.

I've a feeling that could be a very long match.
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Post by lags72 on Sat 03 Sep 2016, 8:06 pm

Yes it could !

I'm switching to Murray v Lorenzi.

Should be pretty straightforward for Andy this one.

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Post by CaledonianCraig on Sat 03 Sep 2016, 8:19 pm

lags72 wrote:Yes it could !

I'm switching to Murray v Lorenzi.

Should be pretty straightforward for Andy this one.

I'd be shocked if this is anything other than straight sets win for Andy.
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Post by JuliusHMarx on Sat 03 Sep 2016, 8:23 pm

JMDP wins first set, but now has the requested the fashion advisor to come on to suggest an alternative to that hideous outfit.

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Post by CaledonianCraig on Sat 03 Sep 2016, 8:30 pm

JuliusHMarx wrote:JMDP wins first set, but now has the requested the fashion advisor to come on to suggest an alternative to that hideous outfit.

As long as that isn't Thomas Berdych advising him.
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Post by Born Slippy on Sat 03 Sep 2016, 8:42 pm

Andy in sleep mode so far. Lorenzi has started well.

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Post by CaledonianCraig on Sat 03 Sep 2016, 8:42 pm

Scruffy start by Andy or should I say careless. Dimitrov meanwhile is handing a lifeline to Jaoa Sousa. He leads 6-4 6-1 but trails 5-1 in the third set.
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Post by CaledonianCraig on Sat 03 Sep 2016, 8:53 pm

Del Potro now has his match by the scruff of the neck leading 7-6 5-2. Dimitrov has dropped the third set against Sousa.
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Post by CaledonianCraig on Sat 03 Sep 2016, 8:59 pm

Dimitrov broken early in the fourth set now. He is handing the initiative to Sousa.
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Post by CaledonianCraig on Sat 03 Sep 2016, 9:06 pm

Lorenzi breaks. He will serve for the first set. Murray not at the races so far. Lorenzi leads 5-4.
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Post by CaledonianCraig on Sat 03 Sep 2016, 9:11 pm

Murray breaks back and it is 5-5. Dimitrov breaks back and is level at 2-2 in the fourth set.
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Post by lags72 on Sat 03 Sep 2016, 9:11 pm

Well well.

Which is the multi-Slam winner World No.2, and which is the 34 year-old more familiar with the Challengers Tour chin

Hasn't been that easy to tell so far. But hopefully Andy will switch on the turbo charger any time now ......

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Post by CaledonianCraig on Sat 03 Sep 2016, 9:19 pm

lags72 wrote:Well well.

Which is the multi-Slam winner World No.2, and which is the 34 year-old more familiar with the Challengers Tour  chin

Hasn't been that easy to tell so far. But hopefully Andy will switch on the turbo charger any time now ......

Might just be me but Murray is trying at the wrong times to push the boat out going for winners and missing. Lots of errors and return game has been poor but lets not downplay how well Lorenzi has done.
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Post by lags72 on Sat 03 Sep 2016, 9:23 pm

Could someone please tell Pat Cash that he is not being paid for his (dreadful ) 'commentary' by the word.

Although ....... the more I think about it ..... maybe he is   Rolling Eyes

Regardless, he has virtually no technical knowledge to impart.

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Post by CaledonianCraig on Sat 03 Sep 2016, 9:24 pm

Dimitrov breaks to lead in the fourth set.
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Post by CaledonianCraig on Sat 03 Sep 2016, 9:28 pm

Murray in third gear wins the first set on a tie-break.
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Post by lags72 on Sat 03 Sep 2016, 9:29 pm

Best thing about the match so far : Cash has just left the commentary box ....... Very Happy Very Happy

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Post by CaledonianCraig on Sat 03 Sep 2016, 9:34 pm

lags72 wrote:Best thing about the match so far : Cash has just left the commentary box ....... Very Happy Very Happy

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Post by CaledonianCraig on Sat 03 Sep 2016, 9:40 pm

Dimitrov and Del Potro both through to the Fourth Round. Del Potro wracking up the ranking points now.
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Post by CaledonianCraig on Sat 03 Sep 2016, 9:49 pm

Dan Evans match against Stan Wawrinka will be underway shortly.
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Post by lags72 on Sat 03 Sep 2016, 9:50 pm

CaledonianCraig wrote:Dimitrov and Del Potro both through to the Fourth Round. Del Potro wracking up the ranking points now.

Indeed.

And safe to say that in this form he is once again a serious contender on the big stages.

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Post by CaledonianCraig on Sat 03 Sep 2016, 9:53 pm

lags72 wrote:
CaledonianCraig wrote:Dimitrov and Del Potro both through to the Fourth Round. Del Potro wracking up the ranking points now.

Indeed.

And safe to say that in this form he is once again a serious contender on the big stages.

I think it was safe to say that after Rio.
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Post by CaledonianCraig on Sat 03 Sep 2016, 9:54 pm

Lorenzi a break up in the second set. Very odd performance from Murray. Impressed by Lorenzi who must be physically shattered.
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Post by CaledonianCraig on Sat 03 Sep 2016, 9:58 pm

Shocking from Murray this. No rhythm, no timing and unforced errors and sitters missed. Lorenzi leads 5-2. If there is justice in the world he will take this set. Dan about to start.
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Post by Guest on Sat 03 Sep 2016, 10:06 pm

Good rally for Murray to win and then break.  He is not playing well so has to play simple and work himself into the match.  That long rally may have tuned him in.  Murray knows he can outlast Lorenzi, so Murray just needs to slow the match down, play simple, take the pace off a tad, keep Lorenzi on the baseline and hope that his game will click.  IF it clicks then he will run away with the match.


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Post by CaledonianCraig on Sat 03 Sep 2016, 10:07 pm

Jekyll and Hyde stuff. Murray breaks back playing better stuff.
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Post by Guest on Sat 03 Sep 2016, 10:12 pm

BBC commentators saying Lorenzi is taking Murrays balls early and this is causing Murray to rush and pushing him out of his comfort zone.

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Post by lags72 on Sat 03 Sep 2016, 10:14 pm

Can't believe some of the stuff we're seeing from Lorenzi in these longer rallies.

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Post by Guest on Sat 03 Sep 2016, 10:14 pm

BBC commentators also saying the acoustics of the stadium is likely causing him a problem - Murray has complained in an earlier round that he can't hear the ball being struck due to the various noises and this is also affecting him - in terms of precise timing of the balls being returned.

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Post by CaledonianCraig on Sat 03 Sep 2016, 10:17 pm

Well it won't help if your first serve percentage is so low as Murray's is.
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Post by Born Slippy on Sat 03 Sep 2016, 10:17 pm

His movement is unreal for someone 34 who played a 5 hour match two days ago!

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Post by CaledonianCraig on Sat 03 Sep 2016, 10:21 pm

Fabulous point that one. Well played Lorenzi.
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Post by CaledonianCraig on Sat 03 Sep 2016, 10:22 pm

Two set points for Lorenzi.
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Post by CaledonianCraig on Sat 03 Sep 2016, 10:23 pm

Lorenzi gets what he deserved and wins the second set 7-5. We are level at one set all.
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