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Post by CaledonianCraig on Sun 04 Sep 2016, 11:11 am

The US Open enters its second week and match of the day is Novak Djokovic against Kyle Edmund. Everybody's money would be on Novak but he comes into this match with question marks hanging over his form and mindset plus he has had a lack of court time here and Kyle comes into it in the form of his life but how will he react to the big occasion on Arthur Ashe? Who knows? Rafa Nadal should have few problems you'd think against Lucas Pouille and Tsonga V Sock is very interesting whilst Monfils takes on Baghdhatis - a clash of two characters. Konta kicks things off on Arthur Ashe against unseeded Latvian Sevastova. Straight-forward? It looks it.
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Post by summerblues on Sun 04 Sep 2016, 3:17 pm

Eight of the players left in the draw are younger than Djokovic, with Kyle Edmund being the youngest one.

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Post by CaledonianCraig on Sun 04 Sep 2016, 3:40 pm

When Djokovic played Edmund earlier in the season it was a pretty straight-forward win for him. However, it is well-documented that in recent weeks Djokovic has went through a mini-crisis in form and mental sharpness whilst Edmund has upped his level and is in the form of his life. I am not saying Kyle will win but it would not surprise me to see him win at least a set and if he can pressurize Novak then how will the Serb's brittle confidence hold up?
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Post by CaledonianCraig on Sun 04 Sep 2016, 5:32 pm

Konta in deep trouble trailing Sevastova 2-6 2-4. Looks like a promising run at the US Open is about to peter out. Monfils in command against Baggy leading 6-3 6-2.
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Post by CaledonianCraig on Sun 04 Sep 2016, 5:54 pm

Konta has broken back and pulled it back to 5-5. Is their life in this match yet?
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Post by CaledonianCraig on Sun 04 Sep 2016, 6:08 pm

Konta crashes out in straight sets. Disappointing exit.
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Post by lags72 on Sun 04 Sep 2016, 6:11 pm

Yes, CC there are undoubtedly some question marks over Djokovic and just where his game is at right now - but I still find it hard to see him as anything other than the ultimate obstacle not just for young Edmund, but for all those remaining in the field.

If Edmund can replicate the amazing form and clean hitting he has been showing so far, then sure .... there is a chance he can unsettle Djokovic ;  which in turn would give Edmund added confidence. Nothing in Djokovic's previous (very limited !) time here on court will have prepared him for Edmund's firepower, although he has comfortably seen off many, many heavy hitters over the years of course. And often in double-quick time.

Some big matches - albeit rarely - do go against all the odds. One that springs to mind is Stakhovsky v Federer at Wimbledon 2013. I doubt that anyone - including Stakhovsky himself - expected that this encounter would snap the record run of 36 consecutive QF appearances by the Fed at Slams. It might not be a direct parallel for Edmund v Djokovic - but it did have that crucial element of the big star playing some way below his 'normal' level - and the lesser-fancied contender hitting a standard significantly above his own past performances.

Just hoping Edmund can acquit himself as impressively as he has done in recent days.

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Post by CaledonianCraig on Sun 04 Sep 2016, 6:18 pm

lags72 wrote:Yes, CC there are undoubtedly some question marks over Djokovic and just where his game is at right now - but I still find it hard to see him as anything other than the ultimate obstacle not just for young Edmund, but for all those remaining in the field.

If Edmund can replicate the amazing form and clean hitting he has been showing so far, then sure .... there is a chance he can unsettle Djokovic ;  which in turn would give Edmund added confidence. Nothing in Djokovic's previous (very limited !) time here on court will have prepared him for Edmund's firepower, although he has comfortably seen off many, many heavy hitters over the years of course. And often in double-quick time.

Some big matches - albeit rarely - do go against all the odds. One that springs to mind is Stakhovsky v Federer at Wimbledon 2013. I doubt that anyone - including Stakhovsky himself - expected that this encounter would snap the record run of 36 consecutive QF appearances by the Fed at Slams. It might not be a direct parallel for Edmund v Djokovic - but it did have that crucial element of the big star playing some way below his 'normal' level - and the lesser-fancied contender hitting a standard significantly above his own past performances.

Just hoping Edmund can acquit himself as impressively as he has done in recent days.

Lets remember that Janowicz won a set off Djokovic already here and in no way was he in better form than Edmund is at the moment so who knows? How will Novak perform if sets go tight or rallies go long etc? Very interesting match this.
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Post by CaledonianCraig on Sun 04 Sep 2016, 6:26 pm

Monfils beats Baggy in straight sets. Tsonga V Sock just underway.
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Post by CaledonianCraig on Sun 04 Sep 2016, 7:47 pm

Tsonga making easy work of Jack Sock leading 6-3 6-3.
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Post by CaledonianCraig on Sun 04 Sep 2016, 9:57 pm

Tsonga wins in four. Nadal has a bit of a match of his hands against Pouille- level at one set all but a break down in the third.
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Post by lags72 on Sun 04 Sep 2016, 10:15 pm

Yes, Nadal having to work but I would happily put a good bit of money on him coming through. He's looking very determined.

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Post by CaledonianCraig on Sun 04 Sep 2016, 10:18 pm

lags72 wrote:Yes, Nadal having to work but I would happily put a good bit of money on him coming through. He's looking very determined.

Agreed. For his sake though he can do without a lengthy match here so imperative he gets this done in four otherwise it will be a long, tiring match for him.
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Post by summerblues on Sun 04 Sep 2016, 10:19 pm

What is going on here? I get home, switch the TV on, and it looks like Mr. Nadal is having a match on his hands. Has Pouille been that good or has Nadal been off?

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Post by CaledonianCraig on Sun 04 Sep 2016, 10:21 pm

summerblues wrote:What is going on here?  I get home, switch the TV on, and it looks like Mr. Nadal is having a match on his hands.  Has Pouille been that good or has Nadal been off?

Not that sure I have just switched on myself after watching Scotland hammer Malta 5-1. Yahoo
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Post by Born Slippy on Sun 04 Sep 2016, 10:29 pm

Nadal was poor in the first. Since then it's been fairly even but Pouille is playing very well. His great two-handed is a big issue for Rafa.

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Post by summerblues on Sun 04 Sep 2016, 10:35 pm

Yes, I am just looking at how good his BH seems to be.  Hopefully we can have one more set of what we have had thus far.

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Post by CaledonianCraig on Sun 04 Sep 2016, 10:39 pm

Pouille needs to win this in fourth I recon (a bit like Evans yesterday). To do that he has to serve well and presdirize Nadal's serve at every opportunity.
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Post by summerblues on Sun 04 Sep 2016, 10:39 pm

Evans was 2-1 up on Stan last night and could not get the job done. Can Pouille do better? He has played a lot of tennis this USO already - 4 sets in Rd1 and two 5-setters in Rds 2 and 3. He also had to come back in each of his previous matches - from 0-1 Rd1, 0-2 in Rd2 and 1-2 in Rd3, so he must have spent a lot of mental energy also. And I would expect that Nadal will not make this one easy for him.

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Post by Born Slippy on Sun 04 Sep 2016, 10:46 pm

id still make Rafa slight favourite. Pouille needs to maintain this level and I think he will have a dip at some point in this set.

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Post by summerblues on Sun 04 Sep 2016, 10:56 pm

Good hold.

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Post by whocares on Sun 04 Sep 2016, 10:59 pm

It is the 6th time Nadal is trailing 2 sets to one in the USO ... And in those 5 other games he went to lose in 4 sets.
That was my useless stat moment Smile

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Post by summerblues on Sun 04 Sep 2016, 11:02 pm

whocares wrote:It is the 6th time Nadal is trailing 2 sets to one in the USO ... And in those 5 other games he went to lose in 4 sets.
That was my useless stat moment Smile
Interesting.  It would be a shame if today were different.

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Post by summerblues on Sun 04 Sep 2016, 11:05 pm

Crying or Very sad

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Post by whocares on Sun 04 Sep 2016, 11:06 pm

I might have jinxed Pouille as he got broken with a double fault.
Gonna be very difficult for him to keep his composure now.

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Post by summerblues on Sun 04 Sep 2016, 11:07 pm

While Pouille has been looking good (though not his last service game), to be honest, it is mostly the fact that Rafa is not 100% sharp that makes this match so close. Rafa has missed many shots that in the past he would normally almost always make.

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Post by summerblues on Sun 04 Sep 2016, 11:08 pm

whocares wrote:I might have jinxed Pouille
Indeed. Crying or Very sad

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Post by Born Slippy on Sun 04 Sep 2016, 11:09 pm

Terrible game from Rafa. Back on serve.

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Post by whocares on Sun 04 Sep 2016, 11:10 pm

Well Nadal normally doesnt hand over his own service game like that!

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Post by summerblues on Sun 04 Sep 2016, 11:15 pm

Neither player is playing great right now - some great shots interspersed with good many bad misses from both.

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Post by Born Slippy on Sun 04 Sep 2016, 11:20 pm

2 sets all. Rafa should win from here. Pouille has to be tired.

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Post by summerblues on Sun 04 Sep 2016, 11:21 pm

Nadal favorite now, but anything can happen in one set. I just hope that Pouille does not run out of gas like Evans did last night. We know that Rafa, similar to Stan yesterday, will not.

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Post by summerblues on Sun 04 Sep 2016, 11:25 pm

Very Evansesque start to the fifth set from Lucas.

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Post by summerblues on Sun 04 Sep 2016, 11:26 pm

Pouille has now been broken his last three service games.

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Post by Born Slippy on Sun 04 Sep 2016, 11:31 pm

I think we can conclude from this that Rafa needs someone to beat Novak before he plays him...

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Post by summerblues on Sun 04 Sep 2016, 11:33 pm

Yes, assuming Novak is playing to somewhere close to his own standard. But the last couple of months that has not been a given.

Anyway, this match is not quite yet done. I do not expect Pouille to win, but it is not over until it is over.

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Post by summerblues on Sun 04 Sep 2016, 11:34 pm

Pouille is looking quite tired though.

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Post by Born Slippy on Mon 05 Sep 2016, 12:01 am

Pouille with three games in a row 5-4*. How will Rafa cope - this feels a lot like last year...

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Post by summerblues on Mon 05 Sep 2016, 12:02 am

Pouille is showing some guts but Rafa has let him off the hook a couple of times in this last game in a way that the Rafa of old would never have.

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Post by summerblues on Mon 05 Sep 2016, 12:12 am

Pouille is tired, but this is now at most two more games; he might be able to survive on adrenaline alone. Can he do it? Can he?

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Post by Born Slippy on Mon 05 Sep 2016, 12:29 am

Amazing - Pouille wins 8-6 in the tiebreak. That forehand that Rafa missed at 6-6 - wow.

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Post by summerblues on Mon 05 Sep 2016, 12:30 am

Beautiful.

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Post by summerblues on Mon 05 Sep 2016, 12:31 am

Born Slippy wrote:That forehand that Rafa missed at 6-6 - wow.
First he saves three MPs and then he chokes it all away like that.  He used to not do it in the old days, but he has been making similar errors all the time the last couple of years.  Not clear to me why.  Must be mental, no other reason for it.

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Post by summerblues on Mon 05 Sep 2016, 12:34 am

Anyway, as always, it is very nice to see Rafa lose.  It has now been over two years since he had been to a slam SF (RG 2014) and over a year since he had even made a QF (RG 2015).  May it long continue.

He had a very nice draw here and still he failed to take advantage of it.  Pouille was playing well, but not well enough to beat a well playing Rafa.

Rafa just needs to keep improving if he wants to get back to winning ways (hopefully will not happen Wink)

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Post by summerblues on Mon 05 Sep 2016, 12:35 am

Pouille has played 19 sets in the first four rounds and still was able to go toe-to-toe with Rafa in the fifth today.

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Rafael Nadal recent slam performances
Wim 2014: 4R
USO 2014: Absent
AO 2015: QF
FO 2015: QF
Wim 2015: 2R
USO 2015: 3R
AO 2016: 1R
FO 2016: 3R
Wim 2016: Absent
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Post by summerblues on Mon 05 Sep 2016, 12:36 am

Good luck to Kyle later tonight.  If he wins, it will have been a perfect day of tennis.

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Post by laverfan on Mon 05 Sep 2016, 12:36 am

Surprised to see Pouille keep his focus and win. clap clap ( 3 5-setters, 1 4-setter).

Well played, Nadal! thumbsup

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Post by laverfan on Mon 05 Sep 2016, 12:38 am

summerblues wrote:Good luck to Kyle later tonight.  If he wins, it will have been a perfect day of tennis.

Unlikely, but it is a funny old game. Wink

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Post by summerblues on Mon 05 Sep 2016, 12:39 am

I will humbly suggest I was correct here last night Wink:

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I do not know what to think of Rafa's game.  I saw bits and pieces of his matches.  On one hand, as you say, he has been cruising.  On the other hand, he did not look all that convincing to me.  He dropped the serve quite a few times, sometimes in semi-critical moments, his shots do not always have much depth, still makes more UEs than one would "normally" expect of him.

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