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Edinburgh vs Leinster - Friday 16th September 2016

Post by funnyExiledScot on Mon 12 Sep 2016, 12:35 pm

Match: Edinburgh vs Leinster
Date: Friday 16th September 2016
Kick-off: 7:35pm
Venue: BT Murrayfield (other telecoms providers are available - and considerably better value)
TV: BBC Alba (blame EWT Spoons if you tune in and there's something rubbish on instead)
Attendance: Pitiful
Form: Mixed, for both
Result: Leinster to win, scoreline to be determined by whether they play their 1st XV
Dress code: Country casual


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Re: Edinburgh vs Leinster - Friday 16th September 2016

Post by RDW_Scotland on Mon 12 Sep 2016, 12:48 pm

On paper this should be a massacre - Leinster looked very good indeed for large spells against Glasgow, but Glasgow just found another gear.

Edinburgh always struggle to play against teams that play at tempo and I fear that the new Leinster 10 will find a lot of space to run riot.

Our usual tactic of dominate up front to starve the opposition of ball won't work if our pack performs like it has done so far - the lineout in particular has been a shambles.

On the positive side, I think our bench offered a lot of impetus last week - Dell, McKenzie and Watson in particular - and I think the balance of our team against Scarlets was much better.  Solomons still doesn't trust anyone but Nel though who played 80 minutes.

I think we'll see

1 Sutherland
2 Ford
3 Nel
4 Toolis (although he should be number 5 lock)
5 Gilchrist
6 Ritchie
7 Hardie
8 CDP (Bradbury if he's not fit enough yet)

9 Fowles (for some reason)
10 Weir
11 Brown
12 Burleigh
13 Tofilau
14 who the feck knows
15 Bryce (his performances haven't been great though - Kingorn could do with a run)

Subs Dell, McInally, Bryce, McKenzie, Watson, SHC, Rasolea, Kinghorn

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Re: Edinburgh vs Leinster - Friday 16th September 2016

Post by EWT Spoons on Mon 12 Sep 2016, 12:49 pm

Loving the thread. Not that much can be improved on this, but just for info the game is being shown on BBC Alba. I can only imagine this is some plan to turn people off rugby by showing 3 Edinburgh games in 3 weeks.

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Re: Edinburgh vs Leinster - Friday 16th September 2016

Post by EST on Mon 12 Sep 2016, 12:58 pm

Poor old Nel is in for another season of being flogged, isn't he? When he eventually heads off to pick up his retirement cheque in the south of France, nobody will be able to say he hasn't earned it.

Leinster won't be as bad as the Scarlets, and perhaps they might have some of the big guns back? Leinster by 10+.

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Re: Edinburgh vs Leinster - Friday 16th September 2016

Post by TJ on Mon 12 Sep 2016, 1:14 pm

Another one to watch from behind the sofa?

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Re: Edinburgh vs Leinster - Friday 16th September 2016

Post by Hazel Sapling on Mon 12 Sep 2016, 1:23 pm

If I was selecting:

Dell
McInally
Berghan
Toolis
McKenzie
CDP (if fit, if not the Tongan chap)
Watson
Bradbury

SHC
Weir
Brown
Burleigh
Tofilau
Hoyland (if fit, if not Helu or Allan)
Scholes

Sutherland, Ford, Nel, Gilchrist, Hardie, Fowles, Kinghorn, Rasolea

I know he would never do it but it gives the benefit of reducing time on key players. If the game is close at the hour mark, the front 5 gets a huge injection of talent to terrorise the pack.

My expectation is SHC and Scholes will come back in. Bryce and Ritchie could do with taking a game off to reset. Not good to have players in poor form keeping their spots when there are reasonable alternatives.

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Re: Edinburgh vs Leinster - Friday 16th September 2016

Post by RDW_Scotland on Mon 12 Sep 2016, 1:28 pm

It's a fair point on SHC and Scholes HS - both have a point to prove if given a start and it might be a masterstroke of man management from Solomons if they are given a chance. Fowles and Bryce haven't exactly been star performers either.

Still I'd be surprised if he didn't pick all but one or two of the starting XV from the Scarlets game - it just isn't his style.

So a combination of what I think he'll pick with some hopes of what he might pick to shake things up would be

1 Sutherland
2 McInally
3 Nel
4 Gilchrist
5 Toolis
6 CDP
7 Hardie
8 Bradbury

9 SHC
10 Weir
11 Brown
12 Burleigh
13 Tofilau
14 Allen
15 Scholes (he did say he was mainly viewed as a 15 after all)

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Re: Edinburgh vs Leinster - Friday 16th September 2016

Post by Nematode on Mon 12 Sep 2016, 1:29 pm

Disclaimer: The following text may offend.:
If Edinburgh lose badly - and don't improve over the next 3-4 games - would it be time for break-glass for emergency Scott Johnson? He is not an international coach, granted, and I know he's not the most popular. But a fresh face and a more attack focused mentality could help or at least not do much worse, surely?




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Re: Edinburgh vs Leinster - Friday 16th September 2016

Post by RDW_Scotland on Mon 12 Sep 2016, 1:30 pm

Nematode wrote:
Disclaimer:
If Edinburgh lose badly - and don't improve over the next 3-4 games - would it be time for break-glass for emergency Scott Johnson? He is not an international coach, granted, and I know he's not the most popular. But a fresh face and a more attack focused mentality could help or at least not do much worse, surely?




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Re: Edinburgh vs Leinster - Friday 16th September 2016

Post by EST on Mon 12 Sep 2016, 1:34 pm

RDW_Scotland wrote:
Nematode wrote:
Disclaimer:
If Edinburgh lose badly - and don't improve over the next 3-4 games - would it be time for break-glass for emergency Scott Johnson? He is not an international coach, granted, and I know he's not the most popular. But a fresh face and a more attack focused mentality could help or at least not do much worse, surely?




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Re: Edinburgh vs Leinster - Friday 16th September 2016

Post by Nematode on Mon 12 Sep 2016, 1:36 pm

RDW_Scotland wrote:
Nematode wrote:
Disclaimer:
If Edinburgh lose badly - and don't improve over the next 3-4 games - would it be time for break-glass for emergency Scott Johnson? He is not an international coach, granted, and I know he's not the most popular. But a fresh face and a more attack focused mentality could help or at least not do much worse, surely?




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Sad

In all seriousness though, if this run of form continues who are Edinburgh going to beat apart from Dragons and Zebre? The win vs Scarlets came from sloppy mistakes from Scarlets - Edinburgh didn't get any points in the second half.

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Re: Edinburgh vs Leinster - Friday 16th September 2016

Post by EWT Spoons on Mon 12 Sep 2016, 1:37 pm

Nematode wrote:
Disclaimer:
If Edinburgh lose badly - and don't improve over the next 3-4 games - would it be time for break-glass for emergency Scott Johnson? He is not an international coach, granted, and I know he's not the most popular. But a fresh face and a more attack focused mentality could help or at least not do much worse, surely?




No, just no. Solly is useless, but Johnson would be worse.

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Re: Edinburgh vs Leinster - Friday 16th September 2016

Post by RDW_Scotland on Mon 12 Sep 2016, 1:40 pm

The serious answer is that if things were so bad that the SRU decided to sack Solomons to show that they are actually doing something about it, I suspect Stevie Scott will take over for the rest of the season with a view to a permanent new coach being appointed next season.

I don't see that solving much though as Scott would probably just use the same gameplan as Solomons given that we will be in the middle of a season.

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Re: Edinburgh vs Leinster - Friday 16th September 2016

Post by Hazel Sapling on Mon 12 Sep 2016, 1:41 pm

I would rather you suggest Mike Blair. Actually would someone like Richie Gray (the coach) fancy it? Who are the assistants at Glasgow who may fancy the challenge?

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Re: Edinburgh vs Leinster - Friday 16th September 2016

Post by Nematode on Mon 12 Sep 2016, 1:41 pm

Just realised, S**** J****** looks remarkably like the lead singer from Whitesnake.




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Re: Edinburgh vs Leinster - Friday 16th September 2016

Post by funnyExiledScot on Mon 12 Sep 2016, 1:48 pm

TJ wrote:Another one to watch from behind the sofa?

I don't know why I bothered buying a sofa. Cheaper to just lie on the floor and close my eyes.

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Re: Edinburgh vs Leinster - Friday 16th September 2016

Post by funnyExiledScot on Mon 12 Sep 2016, 1:50 pm

RDW_Scotland wrote:The serious answer is that if things were so bad that the SRU decided to sack Solomons to show that they are actually doing something about it, I suspect Stevie Scott will take over for the rest of the season with a view to a permanent new coach being appointed next season.

I don't see that solving much though as Scott would probably just use the same gameplan as Solomons given that we will be in the middle of a season.

Agreed. I'm rapidly moving on from the idea of Scott being the next Head Coach. There's very little going right on the pitch at the moment and I'm not so sure the solution is to promote those responsible (otherwise known as "doing an RBS").

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Re: Edinburgh vs Leinster - Friday 16th September 2016

Post by George Carlin on Mon 12 Sep 2016, 2:12 pm

Perceptive Leinster fans may faintly be able to discern a whiff of mild displeasure from Edinburgh fans to their current coach.

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Re: Edinburgh vs Leinster - Friday 16th September 2016

Post by RDW_Scotland on Mon 12 Sep 2016, 2:14 pm

George Carlin wrote:Perceptive Leinster fans may faintly be able to discern a whiff of mild displeasure from Edinburgh fans to their current coach.

To be fair, in the last 2 seasons he has won 1 more trophy than Gregor Townsend...

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Re: Edinburgh vs Leinster - Friday 16th September 2016

Post by funnyExiledScot on Mon 12 Sep 2016, 2:29 pm

RDW_Scotland wrote:
George Carlin wrote:Perceptive Leinster fans may faintly be able to discern a whiff of mild displeasure from Edinburgh fans to their current coach.

To be fair, in the last 2 seasons he has won 1 more trophy than Gregor Townsend...


Hang-on there. Are you forgetting the "Al Kellock Trophy"? Surely someone at Glasgow won that thing last year, or has it been quietly forgotten about, in the same vein as Kellock's international career....

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Re: Edinburgh vs Leinster - Friday 16th September 2016

Post by RDW_Scotland on Mon 12 Sep 2016, 2:30 pm

I thought Al Kellock won the annual Al Kellock award? So not Townsend?

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Re: Edinburgh vs Leinster - Friday 16th September 2016

Post by funnyExiledScot on Mon 12 Sep 2016, 2:31 pm

RDW_Scotland wrote:I thought Al Kellock won the annual Al Kellock award? So not Townsend?


That's probably right. Did he give it to himself, or did they find another worthy, say Dougie Hall, to present it?

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Re: Edinburgh vs Leinster - Friday 16th September 2016

Post by RDW_Scotland on Mon 12 Sep 2016, 2:36 pm

Taken from the Glasgow thread

St John The Enforcer wrote:High Profile Players missing for Glasgow game
Conan
Ross
Henshaw
Ruddock
Nacewa
O'Brien
Sexton
Strauss
Cronin
J McGrath
Toner
Heaslip

Those who should be back for Embra
Ross
Nacewa
Cronin
J McGrath
Toner
Heaslip

We did lose Rob Kearney though

Henshaw and O'Brien are the longest term injuries. Hopeful to see them for Europe in October. The rest Over the next 3 games. (Ospreys, Cardiff, Munster)

Pfft who needs Heaslip when we have Magnus Bradbury!

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Re: Edinburgh vs Leinster - Friday 16th September 2016

Post by funnyExiledScot on Mon 12 Sep 2016, 2:38 pm

Pretty sure Bradbury's back pocket is big enough for Heaslip.

Time for Gilchrist to step up against Toner.

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Re: Edinburgh vs Leinster - Friday 16th September 2016

Post by St John The Enforcer on Mon 12 Sep 2016, 2:38 pm

Possible Leinster team

1 to 8
Healy
B Byrne/Tracy
Ross
M Kearney
Moloney
Leavy
Van Der Flier
Murphy

9 to 15
L McGrath
Carbury
D Kearney
Reid
Ringrose
McFadden
Nacewa

Subs
Cronin
J McGrath
Furlong
Toner
Heaslip
Gibson-Park
Marsh
Kirchner/A Byrne/O'Loughlin/Morris

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Re: Edinburgh vs Leinster - Friday 16th September 2016

Post by funnyExiledScot on Mon 12 Sep 2016, 2:46 pm

The concern with that is that if on the off chance Edinburgh are doing ok on the 60 minute mark, Leinster have oodles of class and experience on the bench. We'll have Fraser McKenzie and Simon Berghan.

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Re: Edinburgh vs Leinster - Friday 16th September 2016

Post by George Carlin on Mon 12 Sep 2016, 2:49 pm

RDW_Scotland wrote:
George Carlin wrote:Perceptive Leinster fans may faintly be able to discern a whiff of mild displeasure from Edinburgh fans to their current coach.

To be fair, in the last 2 seasons he has won 1 more trophy than Gregor Townsend...
I don't think that you can really count the Sanatogen Over-80s Speed Incontinence Award.

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Re: Edinburgh vs Leinster - Friday 16th September 2016

Post by EWT Spoons on Mon 12 Sep 2016, 2:54 pm

funnyExiledScot wrote:Match: Edinburgh vs Leinster
Date: Friday 16th September 2016
Kick-off: 7:35pm
Venue: BT Murrayfield (other telecoms providers are available - and considerably better value)
TV: BBC Alba (blame EWT Spoons if you tune in and there's something rubbish on instead)
Attendance: Pitiful
Form: Mixed, for both
Result: Leinster to win, scoreline to be determined by whether they play their 1st XV
Dress code: Country casual

Worse than an Edinburgh game?

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Re: Edinburgh vs Leinster - Friday 16th September 2016

Post by TheMildlyFranticLlama on Mon 12 Sep 2016, 2:59 pm

funnyExiledScot wrote:I don't know why I bothered buying a sofa. Cheaper to just lie on the floor and close my eyes.

You didn't, you inherited an antique Chesterfield from your father, the 3rd Earl of Stockbridge. Don't try and pull the cashmere over our eyes FES!

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Re: Edinburgh vs Leinster - Friday 16th September 2016

Post by funnyExiledScot on Mon 12 Sep 2016, 3:02 pm

EWT Spoons wrote:
funnyExiledScot wrote:Match: Edinburgh vs Leinster
Date: Friday 16th September 2016
Kick-off: 7:35pm
Venue: BT Murrayfield (other telecoms providers are available - and considerably better value)
TV: BBC Alba (blame EWT Spoons if you tune in and there's something rubbish on instead)
Attendance: Pitiful
Form: Mixed, for both
Result: Leinster to win, scoreline to be determined by whether they play their 1st XV
Dress code: Country casual

Worse than an Edinburgh game?

Fair point, although I do think Alba programmes can run us close.

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Re: Edinburgh vs Leinster - Friday 16th September 2016

Post by funnyExiledScot on Mon 12 Sep 2016, 3:06 pm

TheMildlyFranticLlama wrote:
funnyExiledScot wrote:I don't know why I bothered buying a sofa. Cheaper to just lie on the floor and close my eyes.

You didn't, you inherited an antique Chesterfield from your father, the 3rd Earl of Stockbridge. Don't try and pull the cashmere over our eyes FES!

Shhhh, I was trying out my new "man of the people" routine. I'm considering entering politics so will need to convince the riff raff that I'm one of them and share their daily troubles.

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Re: Edinburgh vs Leinster - Friday 16th September 2016

Post by RDW_Scotland on Mon 12 Sep 2016, 3:07 pm

funnyExiledScot wrote:
TheMildlyFranticLlama wrote:
funnyExiledScot wrote:I don't know why I bothered buying a sofa. Cheaper to just lie on the floor and close my eyes.

You didn't, you inherited an antique Chesterfield from your father, the 3rd Earl of Stockbridge. Don't try and pull the cashmere over our eyes FES!

Shhhh, I was trying out my new "man of the people" routine. I'm considering entering politics so will need to convince the riff raff that I'm one of them and share their daily troubles.

Have you had any busy train journeys lately where you had to sit on the floor?

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Re: Edinburgh vs Leinster - Friday 16th September 2016

Post by George Carlin on Mon 12 Sep 2016, 3:17 pm

funnyExiledScot wrote:
TheMildlyFranticLlama wrote:
funnyExiledScot wrote:I don't know why I bothered buying a sofa. Cheaper to just lie on the floor and close my eyes.

You didn't, you inherited an antique Chesterfield from your father, the 3rd Earl of Stockbridge. Don't try and pull the cashmere over our eyes FES!

Shhhh, I was trying out my new "man of the people" routine. I'm considering entering politics so will need to convince the riff raff that I'm one of them and share their daily troubles.
Just don't start the first speech with: "You know what's like, I'm sure. Like any difficult evening when one runs out of first growth classics and needs to slum it with a Pichon Longueville Baron '85..."

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Re: Edinburgh vs Leinster - Friday 16th September 2016

Post by funnyExiledScot on Mon 12 Sep 2016, 3:18 pm

RDW_Scotland wrote:
funnyExiledScot wrote:
TheMildlyFranticLlama wrote:
funnyExiledScot wrote:I don't know why I bothered buying a sofa. Cheaper to just lie on the floor and close my eyes.

You didn't, you inherited an antique Chesterfield from your father, the 3rd Earl of Stockbridge. Don't try and pull the cashmere over our eyes FES!

Shhhh, I was trying out my new "man of the people" routine. I'm considering entering politics so will need to convince the riff raff that I'm one of them and share their daily troubles.

Have you had any busy train journeys lately where you had to sit on the floor?

Public transport?? Don't be a fool!! Just buy a first class ticket - problem solved!!

Ahem, sorry, what I meant to say was that I fully understand and sympathise with those experiencing uncomfortable commuting conditions on trains. I promise, as one of my non-binding pledges, to do something to alleviate the aforementioned actualities. We'll get there, poco a poco as they say.

How am I doing?

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Re: Edinburgh vs Leinster - Friday 16th September 2016

Post by funnyExiledScot on Mon 12 Sep 2016, 3:24 pm

George Carlin wrote:
funnyExiledScot wrote:
TheMildlyFranticLlama wrote:
funnyExiledScot wrote:I don't know why I bothered buying a sofa. Cheaper to just lie on the floor and close my eyes.

You didn't, you inherited an antique Chesterfield from your father, the 3rd Earl of Stockbridge. Don't try and pull the cashmere over our eyes FES!

Shhhh, I was trying out my new "man of the people" routine. I'm considering entering politics so will need to convince the riff raff that I'm one of them and share their daily troubles.
Just don't start the first speech with: "You know what's like, I'm sure. Like any difficult evening when one runs out of first growth classics and needs to slum it with a Pichon Longueville Baron '85..."

Shocked

Has that ever actually happened???

Actually I prefer a pint of my usual down the pub once I've finished my shift, you know, like a normal average everyday Joe.

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Re: Edinburgh vs Leinster - Friday 16th September 2016

Post by Golden on Mon 12 Sep 2016, 4:13 pm

St John The Enforcer wrote:Possible Leinster team

1 to 8
Healy
B Byrne/Tracy
Ross
M Kearney
Moloney
Leavy
Van Der Flier
Murphy

9 to 15
L McGrath
Carbury
D Kearney
Reid
Ringrose
McFadden
Nacewa

Subs
Cronin
J McGrath
Furlong
Toner
Heaslip
Gibson-Park
Marsh
Kirchner/A Byrne/O'Loughlin/Morris

As muck as Kirhcener has been as a signing, Id still have him ahead of McFadden.

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Re: Edinburgh vs Leinster - Friday 16th September 2016

Post by Pot Hale on Mon 12 Sep 2016, 7:43 pm

EWT Spoons wrote:Loving the thread.  Not that much can be improved on this, but just for info the game is being shown on BBC Alba.  I can only imagine this is some plan to turn people off rugby by showing 3 Edinburgh games in 3 weeks.

For the one or two Leinster fans who won't be travelling over for the match, the game will be also be available on the normal Gaelic speaking station - TG4 - on which the presenters are better looking, and the analysts decidedly not.

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Re: Edinburgh vs Leinster - Friday 16th September 2016

Post by tigertattie on Tue 13 Sep 2016, 2:16 pm

Feck it. You don't win at the bookies y betting on the favorites!

Edinburgh to win by 3

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Re: Edinburgh vs Leinster - Friday 16th September 2016

Post by funnyExiledScot on Tue 13 Sep 2016, 2:23 pm

tigertattie wrote:Feck it. You don't win at the bookies y betting on the favorites!

Edinburgh to win by 3

What do the odds look like for that? How about "Edinburgh to score 3"?

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Re: Edinburgh vs Leinster - Friday 16th September 2016

Post by des on Tue 13 Sep 2016, 3:16 pm

tigertattie wrote:Feck it. You don't win at the bookies y betting on the favorites!

Edinburgh to win by 3

Or the underdogs.

I put £3 on a draw and £22 on the Scarlets last week and did not win.

I think we'll win by 2.

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Re: Edinburgh vs Leinster - Friday 16th September 2016

Post by jimbopip on Tue 13 Sep 2016, 4:36 pm

tigertattie wrote:Feck it. You don't win at the bookies y betting on the favorites!

Edinburgh to win by 3 one day, soon.

Fixed that for you Whistle

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Re: Edinburgh vs Leinster - Friday 16th September 2016

Post by RDW_Scotland on Tue 13 Sep 2016, 4:38 pm

Scarlets let me down last week - I had them to win with +7 headstart at 1/2 and they went and lost to fecking Edinburgh by 11 points!

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Re: Edinburgh vs Leinster - Friday 16th September 2016

Post by RDW_Scotland on Wed 14 Sep 2016, 8:47 am

Phil Burleigh says if it wasn't for the bad weather conditions the last few weeks we would have been playing like the Harlem Globetrotters

Scotsman wrote:Edinburgh centre Phil 
Burleigh has urged the team’s supporters to be patient and have faith that better entertainment is coming. Alan Solomons’ men got their Guinness Pro12 account for the season up and running with a welcome two-try 20-9 victory over Scarlets at 
BT Murrayfield last Friday but it was yet another grinding 
display by the men in black and red. Solomons, his coaching staff and players have been 
talking recently about an “evolving attack” that is building towards a more positive and potent gameplan.

Last term they managed only two Pro12 try bonuses all season and it is clear that more five-pointers will be required during this campaign if they are to achieve their aim of a top-half, even top-four finish. Glasgow’s thriller with Leinster at Scotstoun was night and day away from the game in the capital less than 24 hours beforehand but, in fairness, it was played in vastly different 
conditions.

Friday night’s weather at Murrayfield was dismal with swirling wind and incessant rain and Burleigh admitted the Edinburgh players were annoyed that they are not getting the chance they would like to open up a bit more. “It can be frustrating sometimes,” said the 29-year-old New Zealand-born inside centre. “You have to play to the conditions. Unfortunately for the spectators, that’s the way we’ve had to play our games over the last two weeks, so I really hope we do get some dry weather.

“We do have a style of game we would like to play in those conditions and I think you will see it if it is dry. “Glasgow have had a couple of dry games and we haven’t. They do play a different style to what you’ve seen [from Edinburgh] in the past couple of weeks, but if we get a dry night you will see a different team. “Looking at the conditions last weekend, we had to play that way. It was one of those games where you couldn’t throw the ball around. Those balls are like a bar of soap when it rains.

“I think we did very well in those conditions. We played them better than the opposition did.” Burleigh added: “The weather dictates our gameplan. We have some very astute footballers and they dictate how we play in those conditions. Last weekend might not have been what people want to see but that’s the way it had to happen to win the game.” Following their defeat at the hands of a Tommy Seymour-inspired Glasgow at the weekend, Leinster are the next 
visitors to Edinburgh and will be searching for a first victory in Scotland since they won at Murrayfield on the last day of the 2014-15 season.

Burleigh accepts Edinburgh will need to raise their game for the Irishmen and said the squad had been poring over the tape from Scotstoun. “The coaching staff had a busy weekend and the players get it all [the video],” he said. “Leinster are a good team, there’s no doubt about it, so we’re going to have to be on top of our game to beat those guys.” Burleigh, who received a first ever yellow card in 
Edinburgh colours last week (“My bad. I had thrown a poor pass in the middle and out of frustration I went straight through the ruck. It was a bit silly of me. Never again”), is enjoying focusing purely on the inside centre berth after a couple of years covering stand-off too. With last Friday’s man of the match Duncan Weir and the currently injured Jason Tovey now in the squad, Burleigh knows that, barring a run of injuries, he has a settled position.

“I’m enjoying being back at 12,” he said. “That’s the position where I’ve played most of my rugby so I’m back at home there and feel good. “It’s easy playing outside Duncan Weir and the likes. They are making it easy by putting the ball in the right places. I don’t have to do a lot of kicking any more, so that’s nice. “My focus now is on playing 12. Obviously, Jason is injured at the moment and if there are injuries I may have to step up into the role. Blair Kinghorn is here as well and he’s a very good young player and he’ll get his chance.

“Having that depth there in that position is huge; we’ve probably not been like that in the last couple of years so it’s nice to have a few good tens.”

Read more at: http://www.scotsman.com/sport/rugby-union/phil-burleigh-says-edinburgh-will-shine-in-better-weather-1-4229552

The weather conditions were awful for both games to be fair, but with 17 degrees and no wind or rain forecast for Friday night there can be no more excuses!

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Post by EWT Spoons on Wed 14 Sep 2016, 10:46 am

It's lucky the weather is only going to improve as we head into winter....DAMMIT!

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Post by funnyExiledScot on Wed 14 Sep 2016, 12:32 pm

Burleigh blaming the weather?? He truly is paying attention to the Alan Solomons School of Bad Excuses.

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Post by EWT Spoons on Wed 14 Sep 2016, 12:52 pm

He's also come out on the bbc saying that we don't need to play attractive rugby to improve attendances and that winning will get the crowds in.  Sure everyone likes winning, but we're not doing much of that either.

Burleigh via the bbc wrote:Edinburgh centre Phil Burleigh says the best way they can build a successful club is by winning games rather than worrying about their style of play.

The capital side recovered from a disappointing opening Pro12 loss at Cardiff Blues by grinding out a 20-9 win over Scarlets in wet conditions.

But only 2,650 fans were in attendance at Murrayfield to witness it.

"You get crowds by winning games, that is the thing, and that is worldwide," Burleigh told BBC Scotland.

"It doesn't matter how you play. If you are winning games, you will get crowds.

"We want to build a brand here, for sure, and the players are doing a pretty good job of doing that outside of the ground. But we need to do it on the footy field as well - and that is by winning games of rugby."

Edinburgh's average attendance for the nine Pro12 games they played at Murrayfield last season, excluding the 23,642 for the post-Christmas derby clash with Glasgow, was 3,795.

Some critics have bemoaned a stodgy, one-dimensional approach as a reason for the relative lack of wider support, criticism head coach Alan Solomons has called "manifestly unfair".

"We don't really listen to it to be honest," said New Zealander Burleigh, who moved to Edinburgh two years ago after spells with the Chiefs and Highlanders in Super Rugby.

"It is not something we take notice of as players. If we are winning games, that is the end of the story.

"If we win all our games in that style [the win over Scarlets], I bet we'd have a full stadium at the end of the year watching a Grand Final, with us in it.

"I know it may look that way in the last couple of weeks but it doesn't frustrate us at all."

What's it like playing in front of a few thousand in a 67,500-capacity stadium?
"You don't notice it to be honest. You are so focused on the game. It would be brilliant if you had a full stadium [at Murrayfield]. That is not going to happen, we know that."But you take your mind away from it and you get on with your job. We have still got our good local supporters here. The same crew come along every week so we respect that."
Burleigh, who has switched to his old position of inside centre with the arrival of fly-half Duncan Weir from Glasgow, says weather conditions dictated Edinburgh's game plan in their opening two Pro12 matches.

He believes fans will see a more expansive style given a dry evening, starting with Friday's visit of Irish province Leinster, and maintains progress is being made despite last season's ninth place following eighth-place finishes the two previous years.

"I think it has definitely come along in the last three years," the 29-year-old added.

"We have built strongly as a squad, and I would like to think that this year we will definitely better ourselves again.

"When we make the move to Myreside [in early January], that is going to be big for us. I hope we end up getting a few more people to the ground - that would be brilliant.

"Hopefully we will have a few more wins under our belt by then, and we will get a full stadium. You never know."

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Post by RDW_Scotland on Wed 14 Sep 2016, 12:57 pm

I agree to an extent - there are plenty teams in rugby that don't play an exciting brand yet get big crowds - but it is the combination of losing and playing crap rugby that is the killer.

If we finished 9th last season yet threw the ball about and played some attractive rugby I bet the attendances would have been bigger.

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Post by EWT Spoons on Wed 14 Sep 2016, 1:01 pm

Totally agree, if we could do one of the two that would be a great start.  I mean under Bradley we were terrible but threw the ball about and the crowds were better.  Or as you say if we played our current style but it was successful then great, but being dull and sh*te is a potent mix of being incredibly unappealing.  Throw in there being no atmosphere (at MF) and it's really hard to convince people to come out and spend their hard earned money on the product on offer.

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Post by RDW_Scotland on Thu 15 Sep 2016, 8:47 am

Sounds like Nathan Fowles and Duncan Weir are developing a good 'partnership'....

Scotsman wrote:"We get on really well not just on the field but off it as well, he’s a great guy and especially in the changing room"

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Post by George Carlin on Thu 15 Sep 2016, 10:00 am

RDW_Scotland wrote:Sounds like Nathan Fowles and Duncan Weir are developing a good 'partnership'....

Scotsman wrote:"We get on really well not just on the field but off it as well, he’s a great guy and especially in the changing room"

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