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I just don't get them

Post by Preacher on Wed 21 Sep 2016, 11:47 am

Which wrestlers that despite the love of the internet etc do you sit there and just not warm to?

For me there's two currently.

Sami Zayn and Bayley.

Sami I enjoyed in NXT in his feud with Owens but he's quickly become the new Rey Mysterio in WWE, the plucky underdog that doesn't have a mean bone is his body. I need reasons to cheers faces in 2016 rather than just 'he's a nice guy'.
Pretty much all of the above can be levelled at Bayley, to me she's sickly sweet, she's like a character from Wreck It Ralph and I'd find that character far more interesting if she played it similar but as a heel.

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Post by Ché Guerrero on Wed 21 Sep 2016, 12:05 pm

Owens ....  Run
ZSJ .... Run
Shins... nah I joke

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Re: I just don't get them

Post by Fernando on Wed 21 Sep 2016, 12:07 pm

Probably Enzo & Cass

He comes out says the same crap weekly.

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Post by Preacher on Wed 21 Sep 2016, 12:20 pm

Yeah I get that with Enzo, amazing the first time you hear it, less so the 10th. It's like watching a comedian on Mock the Week etc and then seeing their stage show and see that their so called improv joke being done again and again.

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Re: I just don't get them

Post by Dolphin Ziggler on Wed 21 Sep 2016, 12:43 pm

Ambrose - not seen it yet.

Balor - One dimensional.

Matt Hardy - think its awful

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Re: I just don't get them

Post by Ché Guerrero on Wed 21 Sep 2016, 12:45 pm

Snr Benjamin will be disappointed Dophin

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Re: I just don't get them

Post by NickisBHAFC on Wed 21 Sep 2016, 12:52 pm

Sheamus.

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Re: I just don't get them

Post by Mr Tom on Wed 21 Sep 2016, 1:20 pm

Reigns.

As in I don't get the hate.

I also don't get ziggler. He sells like a fool and shows nothing spectacular.

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Re: I just don't get them

Post by Preacher on Wed 21 Sep 2016, 1:28 pm

NickisBHAFC wrote:Sheamus.

Does anyone get him though?

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Re: I just don't get them

Post by talkingpoint on Wed 21 Sep 2016, 1:56 pm

brock lesnar.

I hate the way he comes out with heyman and just stands there mute, letting heyman do all the stick work. Also, I don't like the way he basically has WWE wrapped around his little finger. Seriously, he doesn't even love the business.


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Re: I just don't get them

Post by Samo on Wed 21 Sep 2016, 5:16 pm

Broken Matt Hardy has almost become a parody of itself, not just wrestling.

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Re: I just don't get them

Post by Electric Demon on Wed 21 Sep 2016, 5:20 pm

It was when I was listening to it writing off a usually enjoyable Talk is Jericho I was just thinking "eurgh"... I had to turn it off and ironically delete it.

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Re: I just don't get them

Post by Guest on Wed 21 Sep 2016, 5:57 pm

Ambrose - Is there any talent there, whatsoever? I've seen one noteworthy match of his and he can thank HHH for that. His promo's do nothing for me too but he was great in CZW so I should just shut up.


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Re: I just don't get them

Post by Dolphin Ziggler on Wed 21 Sep 2016, 6:22 pm

Don't get me wrong, all three were great in the Shield and there is something to Ambrose, and his matches with Rollins were all pretty damn good in that main run of their feud, but he's gone a bit stale. Cena suits him to feud with, blurring the lines of his face/heel balance, but he's looking like he needs a turn.

Actually he needs the Shield to reunite, as do they all right now

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Re: I just don't get them

Post by Mr Tom on Wed 21 Sep 2016, 6:51 pm

I don't get the love for Heath Slater.

Doesn't look a threat.

Been booked as a jobber.

Even his recent wins are down to Rhyno.

Isn't particularly good on the microphone. It's the WWE pandering to the fans.

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Re: I just don't get them

Post by Samo on Wed 21 Sep 2016, 7:18 pm

Dolphin Ziggler wrote:Don't get me wrong, all three were great in the Shield and there is something to Ambrose, and his matches with Rollins were all pretty damn good in that main run of their feud, but he's gone a bit stale. Cena suits him to feud with, blurring the lines of his face/heel balance, but he's looking like he needs a turn.

Actually he needs the Shield to reunite, as do they all right now

Disagree with this.  As lazy a solution as it is, Reigns needs a heel turn.  If they cant get him over as a face as a patriotic American fighting the evil foreigner theres no hope for him right now.  He can do quiet, forceful heel or cocky arrogant heel no problem.  Rollins is on the cusp of a face turn and he really can be the face of the company.

Dean has been seen as the new Austin, when he's closer to Pillman.  A big problem were his wacky mannerisms soon became standard and therefore no longer wacky.  I like Ambrose when he's being serious, intense and almost a tweener.  His promos against Ziggler and Cena were great.

Keep him unhinged, but drop the wackiness.  Use the Lunatic moniker in the sense that he throws caution to the wind and it takes a herculean effort to keep him down, not a guy who fills a briefcase with green sludge.

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Re: I just don't get them

Post by Electric Demon on Wed 21 Sep 2016, 7:22 pm

Mr Tom wrote:I don't get the love for Heath Slater.

Doesn't look a threat.

Been booked as a jobber.

Even his recent wins are down to Rhyno.

Isn't particularly good on the microphone. It's the WWE pandering to the fans.

Are you serious? He's been due this run since 2011 when CM Punk was dropping pipebombs but Slater was quietly sweeping up the debris.

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Re: I just don't get them

Post by Samo on Wed 21 Sep 2016, 7:36 pm

Cassius Zhi wrote:

Are you serious? He's been due this run since 2011 when CM Punk was dropping pipebombs but Slater was quietly sweeping up the debris.

Jesus that line takes me back. To a happier time. A time of Angelina Love and Smokewheel Pizza and the Naughty Nine.

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Re: I just don't get them

Post by Scott is Back on Thu 22 Sep 2016, 9:05 am

Samo wrote:
Cassius Zhi wrote:

Are you serious? He's been due this run since 2011 when CM Punk was dropping pipebombs but Slater was quietly sweeping up the debris.

Jesus that line takes me back.  To a happier time.  A time of Angelina Love and Smokewheel Pizza and the Naughty Nine.

Aahhh - the good old days! Chung, To the Rooftops, Painting Stings face!

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Re: I just don't get them

Post by Electric Demon on Thu 22 Sep 2016, 9:13 am

Scott is Back wrote:Painting Stings face!

That really did just take me back Laugh Laugh

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Re: I just don't get them

Post by Ché Guerrero on Thu 22 Sep 2016, 9:27 am

A Shield reunion is the last thing Rollins needs right now. It would cement a face turn perhaps but he should be allowed to do that on his own in the RAW ME scene

Can I dare to hope the Usos are a trial run for a Reigns turn. Those moody arrogant characters are basically what he should do

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Re: I just don't get them

Post by DrDeath on Thu 22 Sep 2016, 11:08 am

Roode in NXT - Preferred the Beer Money Roode

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Re: I just don't get them

Post by Hero on Thu 22 Sep 2016, 11:30 am

Have to disagree on that based on this...


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Re: I just don't get them

Post by Dolphin Ziggler on Thu 22 Sep 2016, 3:49 pm

I don't see this face turn being the making of Rollins. It's been done really badly. 

There are many reasons for The Shield to reunite, but the best of them might be the talented trios they have at the moment that they could face. The Club, the Wyatts and the New Day all have it, and there's an Angle led American Alpha possibility that gives me a wet dream. 

But really, I think the meandering of them all would halt. Ambrose and Reigns need to be recharged, and I also think there's enough solo talent that would benefit from the spaces they would leave.

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Re: I just don't get them

Post by Ché Guerrero on Thu 22 Sep 2016, 3:58 pm

Hows it being done really badly? Everything's made complete sense so far, Owens is a great heel to play off and Rollins has a huge amount of fan backing. As long as HHHs involvement isnt a dumb convoluted explanation im all on board

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Post by Dolphin Ziggler on Thu 22 Sep 2016, 6:49 pm

I thought it awful. Attacking Reigns too made it confusing, there is no real explanation to anything yet, he still keeps talking to Steph about the good times and how he should have been their pick, he's rallied against Foley still who is obviously a good guy and there's just no way for him to be the ultimate face of an Owens rivalry. He's not Sami Zayn, and even now WWE fans have learned that Zayn is the Skywalker to Owens's Darth Vader.

As far as I can see, he's face by proxy of being a victim. Which isn't really being a face. The story is all about the shock of HHH, not about Rollins or Owens

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Re: I just don't get them

Post by Samo on Thu 22 Sep 2016, 7:21 pm

When he came out the week after Owens won and he was in Stephs face calling the whole thing cowpat - THAT should have been the point of the turn, but they've fumbled it a bit and he's more of a tweener now.

Theres still a face turn there and I think he can pull it off no problem.

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Re: I just don't get them

Post by Dolphin Ziggler on Thu 22 Sep 2016, 9:31 pm

He's talented enough, and he'll be a face, but it's not gonna sky rocket and that's enough for me to say it's screwed up. I can't think of many of the best faces over the years that started meekly

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