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Post by PhilBB on Wed 28 Sep 2016, 5:15 pm

Dudley Phillips is employed by the IRFU as a "Participation Rugby Operations Officer". He used to be part of the Leinster Branch Rugby Referees: http://www.arlb.ie/?tag=dudley-philips

This weekend he is refereeing....... Leinster.

Now, I remember being told explicitly by Sin e that this kind of thing couldn't happen.

Dudley has never refereed Leinster before.

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Re: Dudley Phillips

Post by Munchkin on Wed 28 Sep 2016, 6:42 pm

Shocked ........... no, on second thoughts .........Laugh

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Post by Notch on Wed 28 Sep 2016, 6:46 pm

It's not the norm that this happens and the Pro12 have made an effort to stop it happening, but I suppose needs must. I'm not in any position to question his integrity but obviously that hasn't stopped some coaches when their teams don't control the things they can control. That, to me, says more about them than the referee.

What I will say is that this has been an extremely entertaining and exciting start to the Pro12 season and it will be disappointing if the Club Rugby section is reduced to rehashing the same old unproductive and boring arguments given how much good rugby we've seen so far.

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Re: Dudley Phillips

Post by PhilBB on Wed 28 Sep 2016, 6:57 pm

The most productive supporters can be is to recognise a weakness, publicise it and hammer it home until the 'authorities' do something about it.

Owens is reffing Connacht vs Edinburgh, by the way.

In other news, Munster get a Welsh ref's first game when they play Zebre at home.

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Post by Rory_Gallagher on Wed 28 Sep 2016, 7:00 pm

PhilBB wrote:The most productive supporters can be is to recognise a weakness, publicise it and hammer it home until the 'authorities' do something about it.

Owens is reffing Connacht vs Edinburgh, by the way.

In other news, Munster get a Welsh ref's first game when they play Zebre at home.

The least productive thing that supporters can do is go on online forums and bitch about said weaknesses on a constant basis where the "authorities" won't hear or read a thing about it.

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Post by PhilBB on Wed 28 Sep 2016, 7:05 pm

Rory_Gallagher wrote:
The least productive thing that supporters can do is go on online forums and bitch about said weaknesses on a constant basis where the "authorities" won't hear or read a thing about it.

That's not quite true. But who would only do that?

The least productive thing to do would be to not mention this kind of thing.

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Post by carpet baboon on Wed 28 Sep 2016, 7:08 pm

Must be a conspiracy.
Down with this sort of thing

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Post by Notch on Wed 28 Sep 2016, 7:16 pm

Get your green ink out by all means, but if you're going to keep doing it please start a general complaints thread where you can consolidate it in one place as opposed to creating multiple different threads, and don't take it into other threads concerning specific games and/or clubs or provinces.

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Post by asoreleftshoulder on Wed 28 Sep 2016, 7:34 pm

I don't see why this has happened,there's no need for it surely he could have reffed the Connacht or Ulster match.It's not a huge deal but it's unnecessary since they is a ref from Munster in Wales fro the Dragons game.Just swap them and there's no problem.

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Post by SecretFly on Wed 28 Sep 2016, 7:48 pm

Dudley should never be reffing Leinster. Phil is right. Good thread.

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Post by Pot Hale on Wed 28 Sep 2016, 7:58 pm

Yes agreed. Phil is absolutely right to draw out attention to this kind of ill considered nonsense from the PRO12 board.

It would be better if we all strode together on this kind of inept, bad thinking about the game. As a mark of disrespect and to show that it is not tolerated, fans should not attend this game unless the official is changed.


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Re: Dudley Phillips

Post by Sin é on Wed 28 Sep 2016, 8:18 pm

Well Phil, time Leinster also discovered the delights of being reffed by Deadly Dudley.Not fair that everyone but Leinster should have this 'honour.' Very Happy


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Re: Dudley Phillips

Post by carpet baboon on Wed 28 Sep 2016, 9:18 pm

Leinster should be relegated to the welsh premier. That will teach em to rig the refs

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Re: Dudley Phillips

Post by Pot Hale on Wed 28 Sep 2016, 9:27 pm

Apparently, Phillips used to be attached to St Mary's.

Guess who also played there?

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Post by carpet baboon on Wed 28 Sep 2016, 9:28 pm

Pot Hale wrote:Apparently, Phillips used to be attached to St Mary's.

Guess who also played there?

Phill?

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Re: Dudley Phillips

Post by Sin é on Wed 28 Sep 2016, 9:49 pm

PhilBB wrote:Dudley Phillips is employed by the IRFU as a "Participation Rugby Operations Officer". He used to be part of the Leinster Branch Rugby Referees: http://www.arlb.ie/?tag=dudley-philips

This weekend he is refereeing....... Leinster.

Now, I remember being told explicitly by Sin e that this kind of thing couldn't happen.

Dudley has never refereed Leinster before.

No you were not. I can recall Alain Rolland reffing a Leinster v Munster game Very Happy

PS - he made a right bags of it too!

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Post by carpet baboon on Wed 28 Sep 2016, 9:56 pm

Sin é wrote:
PhilBB wrote:Dudley Phillips is employed by the IRFU as a "Participation Rugby Operations Officer". He used to be part of the Leinster Branch Rugby Referees: http://www.arlb.ie/?tag=dudley-philips

This weekend he is refereeing....... Leinster.

Now, I remember being told explicitly by Sin e that this kind of thing couldn't happen.

Dudley has never refereed Leinster before.

No you were not. I can recall Alain Rolland reffing a Leinster v Munster game Very Happy  

PS - he made a right bags of it too!

Sin you have ruined phills week.
I hope you feel bad

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Re: Dudley Phillips

Post by munkian on Thu 29 Sep 2016, 8:16 am

Dudley ruins most games - the only conspiracy here is that the league is continuing to shoot its self in the nads by keeping these mouth breathers in charge of its matches.

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Re: Dudley Phillips

Post by PhilBB on Thu 29 Sep 2016, 8:16 am

Sin é wrote:
No you were not.

I was.

Good thread this. Very illuminating.

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Post by TJ on Thu 29 Sep 2016, 9:06 am

Notch wrote:

What I will say is that this has been an extremely entertaining and exciting start to the Pro12 season and it will be disappointing if the Club Rugby section is reduced to rehashing the same old unproductive and boring arguments given how much good rugby we've seen so far.

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Re: Dudley Phillips

Post by Pot Hale on Thu 29 Sep 2016, 9:57 am

PhilBB wrote:
Sin é wrote:
No you were not.

I was.

Good thread this. Very illuminating.

Agreed - very illuminating.

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Post by SecretFly on Thu 29 Sep 2016, 11:29 am

Fantastic thread.  

I like the way the IRFU try to disguise things about Dudley - they try keeping certain things away from the public eye.

I had to go to ESPN to find out he's 38 years and 162 days.

IRFU seem to try to suppress knowledge of those 162 days.  It's not good.  It looks bad.

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Re: Dudley Phillips

Post by Luckless Pedestrian on Thu 29 Sep 2016, 12:52 pm

And what was he doing for those 162 days? That's what I'd like to know.

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Re: Dudley Phillips

Post by SecretFly on Thu 29 Sep 2016, 12:54 pm

Certainly not ref training according to most observers Wink

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Post by Pete330v2 on Thu 29 Sep 2016, 1:05 pm

Superb thread, Dudley Phillips and the IRFU are the spawn of satan

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Post by munkian on Thu 29 Sep 2016, 1:17 pm

Pete330v2 wrote:Superb thread, Dudley Phillips and the IRFU are the spawn of satan

I'd assume the Prince of Darkness was particularly intelligent.


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Post by marty2086 on Thu 29 Sep 2016, 2:40 pm

Sin é wrote:
PhilBB wrote:Dudley Phillips is employed by the IRFU as a "Participation Rugby Operations Officer". He used to be part of the Leinster Branch Rugby Referees: http://www.arlb.ie/?tag=dudley-philips

This weekend he is refereeing....... Leinster.

Now, I remember being told explicitly by Sin e that this kind of thing couldn't happen.

Dudley has never refereed Leinster before.

No you were not. I can recall Alain Rolland reffing a Leinster v Munster game Very Happy  

PS - he made a right bags of it too!

Yip and Ive been over it with Phil before but seems he has selective memory

http://www.irishtimes.com/sport/rugby/pro12/alain-rolland-to-referee-derby-game-1.1739017

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Re: Dudley Phillips

Post by LordDowlais on Thu 29 Sep 2016, 3:50 pm

This place is a friggin joke, FFS. No wonder there is not any decent debate to be had about the Pro12 on here. Rolling Eyes

Look, I am not one for agreeing with Phil, take a look at the Merthyr and Cardiff threads, the member does my friggin swede in. steam

But he has brought a valid point up, just as I did about the non TMO's and the mic'd up refs. Yet the only contribution a certain fanbase on here can give to the debate is to take the p1ss.Rolling Eyes


This is a serious point. In a time when we are fighting tooth and nail to raise the profile of the Pro12, and one of the main sticking points is officiating, what is happening here is a farce, and again put's the league in a bad light, how unprofessional is this situation. There can be no blame elsewhere other than on the leagues organisers themselves, it is amateurism that would not be tolerated in any other professional league.

I suppose it is easier to bury your head in the sand, and without any intelligence, just start taking the p1ss. Only on V2.

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Post by SecretFly on Thu 29 Sep 2016, 4:10 pm

When you come out with a bunker buster that will stop Welsh refs reffing at Welsh Regional games then I'll start worrying about Dudley.

BTW... on the decent debate thing.  You're sick of the p-iss takers and I'm getting tired of the growling, knowing, sober-jawed, ultra-serious, spitting, glowering sect.  If every poster here came with an emoticon for normal average mood, I think we'd all know which posters would get the pouting-frown one.

It's possible to have serious debates easily whilst also not taking life so bloody seriously that you can't relax now and then, smile and take the p-iss.  
You yourself Lord said a while ago that there is more to life than sport and that all poster's should think about that.  Unfortunately, you seldom take that welcome attitude to life with you into these threads. Relax. Enjoy sport more. That's the playing part AND the discussing part. Take the p-iss out of the p-iss takers, it's good for body and soul. OK

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Re: Dudley Phillips

Post by marty2086 on Thu 29 Sep 2016, 4:11 pm

Hey! some people have small bladders and have to regularly take the p!ss

On Phils point its essentially rehashing his regular argument with a new twist

He has said he was told this kind of thing can never happen even though he was told before it has

So why take a liar and serial whinger seriously when he is not looking for anything constructive merely an argument to air his grievances which he sees only one solution for?

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Re: Dudley Phillips

Post by PhilBB on Thu 29 Sep 2016, 4:18 pm

marty2086 wrote:
He has said he was told this kind of thing can never happen even though he was told before it has

Hey, Champ, what's the timeline on Sin e telling me it couldn't happen and you finding one game in which it did?

Have a think now.

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Post by marty2086 on Thu 29 Sep 2016, 4:22 pm

PhilBB wrote:
marty2086 wrote:
He has said he was told this kind of thing can never happen even though he was told before it has

Hey, Champ, what's the timeline on Sin e telling me it couldn't happen and you finding one game in which it did?

Have a think now.

I didn't just find that game, it was one we went back and forth on before so champ get of your high horse and wind your neck in

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Post by carpet baboon on Thu 29 Sep 2016, 4:27 pm

PhilBB wrote:
marty2086 wrote:
He has said he was told this kind of thing can never happen even though he was told before it has

Hey, Champ, what's the timeline on Sin e telling me it couldn't happen and you finding one game in which it did?

Have a think now.

I see you have wheeled out the champ put down again phill. You are an internet giant aint ya

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Post by PhilBB on Thu 29 Sep 2016, 4:28 pm

marty2086 wrote:
I didn't just find that game, it was one we went back and forth on before so champ get of your high horse and wind your neck in

And the timeline, Champ?

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Post by PhilBB on Thu 29 Sep 2016, 4:28 pm

carpet baboon wrote:
PhilBB wrote:
marty2086 wrote:
He has said he was told this kind of thing can never happen even though he was told before it has

Hey, Champ, what's the timeline on Sin e telling me it couldn't happen and you finding one game in which it did?

Have a think now.

I see you have wheeled out the champ put down again phill. You are an internet giant aint ya

Always in yer shadow, yew is der man

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Post by SecretFly on Thu 29 Sep 2016, 4:32 pm

I thought that was Chunky's kinda thing? The 'champ' stuff? No?
I'm getting confused keeping track of who all these different people are with the same turn of phrase.

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Post by LordDowlais on Thu 29 Sep 2016, 4:34 pm

This proves that Martin Anayi was just talking bollox and hot air. If he really meant what he was saying, this situation would never have occurred.

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Post by carpet baboon on Thu 29 Sep 2016, 4:35 pm

SecretFly wrote:I thought that was Chunky's kinda thing?  The 'champ' stuff?  No?  
I'm getting confused keeping track of who all these different people are with the same turn of phrase.

It's hard to tell them individually but collectively there is a word for them

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Post by PhilBB on Thu 29 Sep 2016, 4:36 pm

It seems a thing on this board for the followers of Irish rugby to play the man.

Constantly.

I wonder what that proves....

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Post by SecretFly on Thu 29 Sep 2016, 4:42 pm

'bollox and hot air'? A natural 606er then.

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Post by LordDowlais on Thu 29 Sep 2016, 4:47 pm

Can anybody seriously see the amateurism this shows on our league ?

Things like this would never be excepted in the Aviva or Top14.

Here we all are trying to put our league on a higher setting, but when the people in charge show this kind of shoddy workmanship, then no wonder we are lagging behind the other leagues.

Yet, it's no matter, we should just keep meandering along pretending everything is great.

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Post by marty2086 on Thu 29 Sep 2016, 4:55 pm

PhilBB wrote:
marty2086 wrote:
I didn't just find that game, it was one we went back and forth on before so champ get of your high horse and wind your neck in

And the timeline, Champ?

Really?

So instead of just admitting you are wrong you want me to go back through threads and find the proof of it?

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Post by marty2086 on Thu 29 Sep 2016, 4:56 pm

LordDowlais wrote:Can anybody seriously see the amateurism this shows on our league ?

Things like this would never be excepted in the Aviva or Top14.

Here we all are trying to put our league on a higher setting, but when the people in charge show this kind of shoddy workmanship, then no wonder we are lagging behind the other leagues.

Yet, it's no matter, we should just keep meandering along pretending everything is great.

Explain how its shoddy?

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Post by SecretFly on Thu 29 Sep 2016, 4:56 pm

LordDowlais wrote:Can anybody seriously see the amateurism this shows on our league ?

Things like this would never be excepted in the Aviva or Top14.


Breaking rules WAS accepted in Aviva. How quickly you forget. How quickly you forget that it was never even fully admitted to - but covered up 'to help the image of the World Cup'.
Accusations of chemically performance enhanced players, sanctioned by team itself, has occurred in Top14 - and not just concerning Toulon either. You forget that too?

So exactly what wouldn't be accepted in Aviva and Top14? I think they both have a reputation of potentially accepting anything that improves the product for investors.

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Post by PhilBB on Thu 29 Sep 2016, 4:58 pm

marty2086 wrote:
PhilBB wrote:
marty2086 wrote:
I didn't just find that game, it was one we went back and forth on before so champ get of your high horse and wind your neck in

And the timeline, Champ?

Really?

So instead of just admitting you are wrong you want me to go back through threads and find the proof of it?

Yep.

All I wrote is that Sin e told me it couldn't happen. I didn't make any comment on the accuracy of his/her comment, just that it happened. And it did happen.

Is the realisation sinking in now?

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Post by SecretFly on Thu 29 Sep 2016, 4:59 pm

PhilBB wrote:It seems a thing on this board for the followers of Irish rugby to play the man.

Constantly.

I wonder what that proves....

Find for us what it proves. Give us a link when you're ready.

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Post by PhilBB on Thu 29 Sep 2016, 4:59 pm

LordDowlais wrote:Can anybody seriously see the amateurism this shows on our league ?

Things like this would never be excepted in the Aviva or Top14.

Here we all are trying to put our league on a higher setting, but when the people in charge show this kind of shoddy workmanship, then no wonder we are lagging behind the other leagues.

Yet, it's no matter, we should just keep meandering along pretending everything is great.

The Irish rugby followers don't care, Dowellais. They don't care about any of this.

Why they don't care is an interesting question, but care they do not.

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Post by marty2086 on Thu 29 Sep 2016, 5:00 pm

PhilBB wrote:
marty2086 wrote:
PhilBB wrote:
marty2086 wrote:
I didn't just find that game, it was one we went back and forth on before so champ get of your high horse and wind your neck in

And the timeline, Champ?

Really?

So instead of just admitting you are wrong you want me to go back through threads and find the proof of it?

Yep.

All I wrote is that Sin e told me it couldn't happen. I didn't make any comment on the accuracy of his/her comment, just that it happened. And it did happen.

Is the realisation sinking in now?

Pedantic and pathetic come to mind

So you are challenging Sin rather than the issue?

LD, if you want to see who is being childish here he is

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Post by SecretFly on Thu 29 Sep 2016, 5:02 pm

PhilBB wrote:
LordDowlais wrote:Can anybody seriously see the amateurism this shows on our league ?

Things like this would never be excepted in the Aviva or Top14.

Here we all are trying to put our league on a higher setting, but when the people in charge show this kind of shoddy workmanship, then no wonder we are lagging behind the other leagues.

Yet, it's no matter, we should just keep meandering along pretending everything is great.

The Irish rugby followers don't care, Dowellais. They don't care about any of this.

Why they don't care is an interesting question, but care they do not.

And what di you say to me when I asked you where all the Welsh Regional fans were on Pro12 Final weekend? Do you remember what you said?

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Post by PhilBB on Thu 29 Sep 2016, 5:05 pm

marty2086 wrote:

Pedantic and pathetic come to mind

So you are challenging Sin rather than the issue?

LD, if you want to see who is being childish here he is

I was only ever challenging Sin, for Sin writes some tremendously inaccurate nonsense on this board.

It's not childish to highlight the inaccuracy of posters. It's a common theme in comprehending the value of their contribution.

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