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Post by kwinigolfer on Thu 29 Sep 2016, 1:03 pm

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Post by Diggers on Mon 01 Oct 2018, 11:04 pm


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Post by NedB-H on Mon 01 Oct 2018, 11:08 pm

Yes absolutely. If you’ve been competing at the top for a long time, with few wins to show for it, that’s clearly different to someone who hit the big time late in their career. No one suggests Jimmy Walker has underachieved because he barely kept his card for the first five years.

I’ve said previously that Finau’s lack of serious wins is a gap on his CV, Fleetwood could be starting to go the same way. RCB certainly has that problem, as did Molinari for many years. It’s by no means only Rickie, Kuchar, Casey and Donald have all taken flak over the years for not converting endless top tens into more wins.

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Post by Diggers on Mon 01 Oct 2018, 11:29 pm

Well I like Ricky, also think he’s better now than he was (he has had an injury this year I believe) so he’s hopefully still got his best years to come. Time will tell.

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Post by kwinigolfer on Mon 01 Oct 2018, 11:31 pm

By comparison to Rickie, DJ has 17 wins since Fowler first made a Tour play-off, yet probably gets less ink. Even Jimmy Walker has 6 wins including a Major. (Incidentally, very interesting Feherty with JW.)
Plenty have more than Rickie's four wins. But he's good, just not great.

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Post by Diggers on Tue 02 Oct 2018, 12:03 am

Fair enough, I’ll bear in mind only great constitutes career fulfillment.

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Post by McLaren on Tue 02 Oct 2018, 12:13 am

I get that Ricky is (was) young, American, nice personality, marketable and so on, and therefore garnered some hype but when he first came on tour his game was nowhere near the level of Spieth, Thomas, DJ, Rory, Kopka etc.  Basically having the correct image meant more was expected of him rather than his golf game.  

But he has actually turned his game around and seems to have added length and more consistency (in theory).  His swing was a little quirky when he first came on the scene but he now has a pretty standard modern golf pro type action.

Given his improved swing and the positions he has put himself in, especially in the majors, it wouldn't be a surprise to see him win some big events but never have I thought about him as being in the very top group of players. Given the level of the players just above him he has done pretty well so far.

And I am not sure why we are just writing off 4 wins on the PGAT?  Not to go over old ground but most of the winning RC team would love to have that record.  For example the hero Fleetwood at 29 is well behind Fowler in career achievements, a point already well made by diggers.  

Although odd given his position in this debate kwini sums it up best "he is good, just not great".

But just remember what that means when interpreting the careers of some of this boards RC heroes!
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Post by McLaren on Tue 02 Oct 2018, 12:19 am

PS - I can assure fellow posters it will become tedious for all involved when I remind anyone that unless a player has 4 PGAT wins they can't even be described as good.  This mantra will become even more boring than my double dipper obsessions.

For sake of future pain can we agree the following players are not even good and have fell well short of career fulfillment.

Lee Westwood (3)
Monty (0)
Clarke (3)
Casey (2)
Molinari (2)
Gmac (3)
MAJ (0)
Poulter (3)

I am thinking maybe a sticky at the top listing all the board favourites not as good as Ricky.  More suggestions welcome. 


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Post by McLaren on Tue 02 Oct 2018, 12:24 am

In other news the Americans were not the biggest losers from their wayward driving this week.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/golf/45714544
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Post by kwinigolfer on Tue 02 Oct 2018, 12:39 am

Mac,
You DO talk a load of b0ll0cks.

Rickie not only beat Rory in his own manor, RDC, in the Walker Cup, but came T2 in just his second Tour event as a pro (7th in his first). How can you therefore talk b0ll0cks about his game coming on Tour?

What did you know about DJ when he first came on Tour, just as a ferinstance??

Fleetwood is 27, as posted earlier, not 29 and I'm not going to waste anyone's time going over the number of events played by Europeans on the PGA Tour rather than Americans. (Not sure how you get 3 wins for Lee or DC though.)

Go back to your chequered flag and Man Utd shirt.



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Post by NedB-H on Tue 02 Oct 2018, 12:46 am

Mac why do you love to argue with yourself so much? Literally no one on this thread has said “Rickie isn’t good”. And we’ve all agreed that Europe also has some players who also don’t have as many Tour wins as maybe they should. You’re debating with thin air. We’ve also all said that Rickie’s two European Tour wins have to be considered too, which kind of weakens your Westwood (23) and Monty (31) arguments.

If you really think Fowler is a player of comparable class to Jiménez and Poulter then we can all happily agree he’s in the middle of a fine career. But the relevant point is that he’s always been built up by the golf media as much more than that, as a top five/top ten player in the world, an equal of Rory or Spieth.

Now either you disagree with the prevailing media view of Fowler’s level, in which case you won’t think he’s an underachiever, but you have to believe he’s overhyped. Or you agree with the journos who think it’s “DJ, Rory, Spieth, JT, Day and Fowler”. In which case, as we’ve shown, he’s clearly underachieved relative to those peers.

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Post by NedB-H on Tue 02 Oct 2018, 12:57 am

DC has two WGCs and a major that I guess count Kwini? LW won in the states in his first coming and again when he beat Karlsson in a playoff a few years back. Is his third the China WGC? That would have been back when the tour were messing around with the status of that event, and Westwood was messing around with his own status on tour, so god knows if it counts or not.

For what it’s worth Clarke could be a good role model for Fowler. Only had 4 European wins by his 30th birthday and went on to get two WGCs and a major. Westwood on the other hand had 14 Euro wins and one in the states by the time he was Rickie’s age.


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Post by kwinigolfer on Tue 02 Oct 2018, 12:58 am

Agreed with DC, forgot about The Open. Duh.

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Post by NedB-H on Tue 02 Oct 2018, 12:59 am

I’ve just double checked and Westie never won the China thing. I think I was thinking of the year him and Molinari lapped the field. My bad.

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Post by GPB on Tue 02 Oct 2018, 1:15 am

Westwood has two PGATour wins, New Orleans about 20 yrs and Memphis back in 2010. Both relatively weak PGATour events at the time.

A few vague references to it, but Rickie does have two Euro Tour wins, OWGR 50 and OWGR 52. OWGR 50 or better tournaments are rare for an uncosanctioned EuroTour events.*

If I counted correctly, Rickie has only played 8 (uncosanctioned) European Tour events, and won two of them, since he turned pro in 2010.

Rickie has also won the Players, which arguably has the strongest field in golf.

Abu Dhabi is the only event so far on the 2018 ET schedule rated 50 or higher. BMW PGA would have been rated 48 if it were not for flagship subsidy.

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Post by McLaren on Tue 02 Oct 2018, 1:54 am

You would have thought the tone and smiley would have made it obvious that was a joke.
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Post by McLaren on Tue 02 Oct 2018, 2:01 am

DJ and Koepka face off at after party.

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2018/oct/01/patrick-reed-hits-out-at-jordan-spieth-and-jim-furyk-after-us-ryder-cup-defeat-golf
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Post by McLaren on Tue 02 Oct 2018, 2:21 am

https://nypost.com/2018/10/01/patrick-reed-is-so-full-of-s-t-us-ryder-cup-fight-explodes/amp/


Patrick full of Poopie apparently.


Looks like team usa were more divided than we thought.
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Post by beninho on Tue 02 Oct 2018, 6:51 am

Fowler has 8 pro wins. He has a good career already when compared to tge vast majority of pro golfers. Its all down to expectations if you think he has underachieved. He is good but there are better. He got hyped because he was young, flamboyant and talented doesn't mean he is going to be tge worlds greatest.

Brooks and Dj getting in each others faces at tge after party. Muust have been sonething said about dj being a shagger

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Post by beninho on Tue 02 Oct 2018, 6:57 am

I see the lady hit by koepka is considering legal action. Do you not sign a waiver when attending a tournament?

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Post by Davie on Tue 02 Oct 2018, 7:20 am

I'm sure there are waivers in place but they aren't always legally binding if there is evidence of negligence

I've just seen the shot again on TV though as I was writing this and there were clear shouts of "fore" from the tee so unless she can prove some kind of negligence on the part of the marshals she's probably just unlucky

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Post by Diggers on Tue 02 Oct 2018, 7:29 am

You’d imagine a fight between Brooks and DJ would be a very laconic affair, hard to see either getting overly riled up.

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Post by super_realist on Tue 02 Oct 2018, 7:44 am

GPB wrote:Westwood has two PGATour wins, New Orleans about 20 yrs and Memphis back in 2010.  Both relatively weak PGATour events at the time.

A few vague references to it, but Rickie does have two Euro Tour wins, OWGR 50 and OWGR 52.  OWGR 50 or better tournaments are rare for an uncosanctioned EuroTour events.*

If I counted correctly, Rickie has only played 8 (uncosanctioned) European Tour events, and won two of them, since he turned pro in 2010.

Rickie has also won the Players, which arguably has the strongest field in golf.

Abu Dhabi is the only event so far on the 2018 ET schedule rated 50 or higher.  BMW PGA would have been rated 48 if it were not for flagship subsidy.


FFS, we're talking SPECIFICALLY about Fowler. He's underachieved for his hype/ability. I don't care about bringing in any other golfer into the equation for comparison, because it isn't relevant. They might well have underachieved too, but we're talking about Fowler, not them.

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Post by pedro on Tue 02 Oct 2018, 7:48 am

RC 2020 should be interesting.

Reed is blacklisted, Spieth has taken over the dressing room, and DJ and Koepka proved they could get their pulse over 40.

And with Strick as probable captain he will call for Woods and Mickelsons ‘leadership skills’ (!) to oil the waters.

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Post by beninho on Tue 02 Oct 2018, 8:27 am

https://www.sporcle.com/games/pancakes188/rydercupsquads

Bit of light relief, I got 82%.

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Post by Diggers on Tue 02 Oct 2018, 9:06 am

super_realist wrote:
GPB wrote:Westwood has two PGATour wins, New Orleans about 20 yrs and Memphis back in 2010.  Both relatively weak PGATour events at the time.

A few vague references to it, but Rickie does have two Euro Tour wins, OWGR 50 and OWGR 52.  OWGR 50 or better tournaments are rare for an uncosanctioned EuroTour events.*

If I counted correctly, Rickie has only played 8 (uncosanctioned) European Tour events, and won two of them, since he turned pro in 2010.

Rickie has also won the Players, which arguably has the strongest field in golf.

Abu Dhabi is the only event so far on the 2018 ET schedule rated 50 or higher.  BMW PGA would have been rated 48 if it were not for flagship subsidy.


FFS, we're talking SPECIFICALLY about Fowler. He's underachieved for his hype/ability. I don't care about bringing in any other golfer into the equation for comparison, because it isn't relevant. They might well have underachieved too, but we're talking about Fowler, not them.

Oh belt up, Super. Get off your high horse, you constantly make comparisons (as does everyone) in arguments to try and prove/disprove a point, don't suddenly tell people they can't do the same just because it suits your case not to.

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Post by Just John on Tue 02 Oct 2018, 9:23 am

beninho wrote:I see the lady hit by koepka is considering legal action. Do you not sign a waiver when attending a tournament?

Only going down that route, because Koepka is not footing the bill for the medical costs? Shocking if he’s just ignored the situation. This would just play on my conscience, especially given the extent of the injury.

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Post by Diggers on Tue 02 Oct 2018, 9:36 am

Just John wrote:
beninho wrote:I see the lady hit by koepka is considering legal action. Do you not sign a waiver when attending a tournament?

Only going down that route, because Koepka is not footing the bill for the medical costs? Shocking if he’s just ignored the situation. This would just play on my conscience, especially given the extent of the injury.

Agreed. Only doubt in my mind is that he's being told if he pays, he then has some form of ongoing liability from admitting culpability? Cant think of any other reason, the decent thing for a multi millionaire to do.

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Post by kwinigolfer on Tue 02 Oct 2018, 10:10 am

beninho wrote:https://www.sporcle.com/games/pancakes188/rydercupsquads

Bit of light relief, I got 82%.

Very interesting ben, Thanks!

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Post by raycastleunited on Tue 02 Oct 2018, 12:38 pm

beninho wrote:https://www.sporcle.com/games/pancakes188/rydercupsquads

Bit of light relief, I got 82%.

haha good one Benny.

I struggled with the US team from 2006... guys I had never heard of (Brett Wetterick?), and then US teams before that.

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Post by navyblueshorts on Tue 02 Oct 2018, 12:46 pm

Good Golly I'm Olly wrote:Despite Bjorn’s horrible picks and pairings throughout, Europe have won. If only OwenOzzy was in charge this would’ve been done yesterday
Laugh
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Post by pedro on Tue 02 Oct 2018, 12:54 pm

raycastleunited wrote:
beninho wrote:https://www.sporcle.com/games/pancakes188/rydercupsquads

Bit of light relief, I got 82%.

haha good one Benny.

I struggled with the US team from 2006....
They also struggled with their own team....

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Post by GPB on Tue 02 Oct 2018, 1:09 pm

super_realist wrote:
GPB wrote:Westwood has two PGATour wins, New Orleans about 20 yrs and Memphis back in 2010.  Both relatively weak PGATour events at the time.

A few vague references to it, but Rickie does have two Euro Tour wins, OWGR 50 and OWGR 52.  OWGR 50 or better tournaments are rare for an uncosanctioned EuroTour events.*

If I counted correctly, Rickie has only played 8 (uncosanctioned) European Tour events, and won two of them, since he turned pro in 2010.

Rickie has also won the Players, which arguably has the strongest field in golf.

Abu Dhabi is the only event so far on the 2018 ET schedule rated 50 or higher.  BMW PGA would have been rated 48 if it were not for flagship subsidy.

FFS, we're talking SPECIFICALLY about Fowler. He's underachieved for his hype/ability. I don't care about bringing in any other golfer into the equation for comparison, because it isn't relevant. They might well have underachieved too, but we're talking about Fowler, not them.

One sentence, and one sentence only talked about another golfer in this post. Someone above had said that Westy won 3 PGATour events. Westy has one two and I named them.

The rest of the post was about Rickie, and his accomplishments. In particular, his two wins on the EuroT out of 8 tries in uncosanctioned events. Both of them OWGR-50 (or above) events, commonplace on the PGATour, and very rare on the Europe.

I agree that Fowler has underachieved to his ability/profile. But IMO, "Hype" is a two way street. I mainly ignore it. Its not a guarantee, and if you think hype is guarantee, that is on you, not Rickie.

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Post by navyblueshorts on Tue 02 Oct 2018, 1:15 pm

pedro wrote:RC 2020 should be interesting.

Reed is blacklisted, Spieth has taken over the dressing room, and DJ and Koepka proved they could get their pulse over 40.

And with Strick as probable captain he will call for Woods and Mickelsons ‘leadership skills’ (!) to oil the waters.
laughing
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Post by raycastleunited on Tue 02 Oct 2018, 1:34 pm

navyblueshorts wrote:
Good Golly I'm Olly wrote:Despite Bjorn’s horrible picks and pairings throughout, Europe have won. If only OwenOzzy was in charge this would’ve been done yesterday
Laugh

Funny how these random people appear and then disappear so quickly.

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Post by navyblueshorts on Tue 02 Oct 2018, 1:36 pm

Re. RC - great result (if you're European); who saw that coming?? Certainly, not that many. Really pleased for Molinari (what a year he's had) and for Bjorn and his picks. Great venue and setup too. Need to back it up in two years time.

Team America - some excellent players, who for some reason, couldn't produce over the three days. Seems to have been a good atmosphere between the teams as well, which was great. Loved the Reed 'shush' at the end - he seems to get it, for all that he's clearly not an easy guy to get on with. The post-result recriminations (to put a positive spin on it) at least seems to suggest they take it hard and therefore care about the event. No idea what a fix would be, but not sure another 'Task Force' is it.

Fowler - overhyped? Maybe. Not his fault though. Think it's a matter of time until he wins a Major, and then he might win a bunch. Seem to recall Mickleson near missing quite a bit before he won one, and he's gone on to do all right (still an A-grade prat though). Fowler's clearly got the game.
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Post by GPB on Tue 02 Oct 2018, 2:05 pm

beninho wrote:https://www.sporcle.com/games/pancakes188/rydercupsquads

Bit of light relief, I got 82%.

Zack Johnson played in 2014 for the US Team
Zach Johnson played in 2006, 2010, 2012 and 2016

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Post by Roller_Coaster on Tue 02 Oct 2018, 2:44 pm

McLaren wrote:You would have thought the tone and smiley would have made it obvious that was a joke.

I got it, unusually for me and your posts admittedly, but I did. I may even have chuckled!

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Post by McLaren on Tue 02 Oct 2018, 4:02 pm

Roller

I most often fail to get this across but I try to post a large majority of my posts in a certain irreverent persona.
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Post by pedro on Tue 02 Oct 2018, 4:46 pm

McLaren wrote: I try to post a large majority of my posts in a certain irreverent irrelevant persona.
Fixed it so it makes sense.

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Post by kwinigolfer on Tue 02 Oct 2018, 6:26 pm

A number of reports now suggesting the barney involving DJ & Koepka began on the US Team flight from Atlanta to Paris. Nice touch; apparently Capt Furyk had to intervene.
Another report says they were also arguing on the Team bus which led Furyk to split up their pairing on the first day.
It seems their respective significant others were also involved, although with Dustin that could be multiples I'm sure.

Bombs bursting in air . . . . . . .

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Post by super_realist on Tue 02 Oct 2018, 6:54 pm

The fake bonhomie of the US team is pretty apparent. From the stage managed photo of everyone in their shades coming off the plane, the writing was on the wall. I'm sure some of them are mates, but there's just too many egos on that "squad" (I can't call them a team)

You can tell the Euro's actually like one another, or at very least make the effort to get on during the event.

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Post by Be_the_ball on Tue 02 Oct 2018, 7:33 pm

Good interview with Rex Hoggard re the DJ - Koepka spat and the various different spats that happened. I really didn't expect so much in fighting happening in the US team, however it will be a completely different story in 2 years I imagine.

https://youtu.be/4qBSoiLQvnI

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Post by pedro on Tue 02 Oct 2018, 7:36 pm

There’s nothing like the aftermath of a US Ryder Cup loss. Priceless. Almost beats the real thing.

Don’t think Reed should count on a wild card pick next time...

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Post by Be_the_ball on Tue 02 Oct 2018, 8:28 pm

Is Reed being bullied a bit here though? He's obviously outside the clique of young players. I get the impression that Spieth sets the agenda there. Seems a bit strange, he doesn't seem as bad as he's made out to be. I got a laugh out of the "shush" and I'd say the green side crowd got a great laugh out of it. He was very impressive on Sunday at Augusta, I'm wondering if there are a few noses out of joint that he's done well.

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Post by kwinigolfer on Tue 02 Oct 2018, 8:49 pm

Be_the_ball wrote:Good interview with Rex Hoggard re the DJ - Koepka spat and the various different spats that happened. I really didn't expect so much in fighting happening in the US team, however it will be a completely different story in 2 years I imagine.

https://youtu.be/4qBSoiLQvnI


Thanks B_t_b; that was a very good interview by your guy.

I wonder about the DJ/Brooks thing, seems more to it than meets the eye, especially given the presence of their ladies, plus the scuttlebutt about Dustin back to his extra-curricular tricks again. Probably a good thing they went their separate ways on Monday.

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Post by Be_the_ball on Tue 02 Oct 2018, 9:11 pm

Cheers Kwini, glad you enjoyed it  thumbsup . I was surprised there were any bust ups tbh, but that was probably the last one I was expecting. Had to laugh at the Mrs deleting the Instagram pics that included Brooks. I can just imagine the reaction in the Koepka household, "they've deleted us off Instagram, they're dead to us now". Shocked


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Post by kwinigolfer on Tue 02 Oct 2018, 9:20 pm

I imagine Wayne will be moved to give DJ a good talking to - he won't like this mess at all.

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Post by NedB-H on Tue 02 Oct 2018, 10:00 pm

I don’t imagine Furyk had anything like the authority he’d need, but compare the team spirit of Europe o the US falling out before the week’s even begun. And the talk beforehand of the US’s bench strength. You could make a case for zero tolerance - any wind of anyone having a falling out and you’re both kicked out for a better team player. Dustin and Brooks can go home and we’ll get Xander and Patrick in.

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Post by super_realist on Wed 03 Oct 2018, 8:03 am

Funny how the Yanks behave like children when beaten, a bit the revolting Serena Williams did the other week, they just can't take losing.

When Europe got pumped by the US in America in 2016, there was nothing like this level of petulance and indignation. There might have been a few noses out of joint, and there might have been a collective disappointment but you win as a team, and you lose as a team. The US are showing no class at all here. Just admit you got outplayed and out thought and move on to the next one.

This just stinks of the US being bad losers, they were soundly beaten, partly because of their lack of preparation, and partly some laughable picks like Woods and Mickelson being picked on name and for media/commercial reasons, but if you can't accept losing as a team responsibility, how can you move on?

How could you not play the course before and still expect to win? I presume that the European Captain will ensure that all the players will get over to Whistling Straits and get a few rounds under their belt well before Ryder Cup week next time.

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Post by JAS on Wed 03 Oct 2018, 8:52 am

super_realist wrote:Funny how the Yanks behave like children when beaten, a bit the revolting Serena Williams did the other week, they just can't take losing.

When Europe got pumped by the US in America in 2016, there was nothing like this level of petulance and indignation. There might have been a few noses out of joint, and there might have been a collective disappointment but you win as a team, and you lose as a team. The US are showing no class at all here. Just admit you got outplayed and out thought and move on to the next one.

This just stinks of the US being bad losers, they were soundly beaten, partly because of their lack of preparation, and partly some laughable picks like Woods and Mickelson being picked on name and for media/commercial reasons,  but if you can't accept losing as a team responsibility, how can you move on?

How could you not play the course before and still expect to win? I presume that the European Captain will ensure that all the players will get over to Whistling Straits and get a few rounds under their belt well before Ryder Cup week next time.

We all know how much you dislike Woods but you can’t call him a laughable pick this time round. He’d trended significantly upward in the rankings all year. Contended in at least a couple of the Majors and quickly justified his pick by winning the TC. Yes in the end he was dross but was there anyway the Capt was going to know at what point he was going to run out of gas? Mickelson on the other hand...wtf?? Had I been Shuffler or Kisner I’d have been extremely hacked off. He just had no form. You can’t even put Mickelson in the Sergio/Poulter bracket of “It’s what they bring to the team room” because Mickelson pretty much smashed up the team room at Gleneagles.

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