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Post by gallery play on Mon 03 Oct 2016, 11:05 am

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Okay, it's far stretched to claim there's a correlation between de Brexit and this Ryder cup failure but isn't it peculiar how bad the English have performed?


Friday morning foursomes:
- despite a great playing Stenson, Rose dragged the team down
- despite a great playing Pieters, Westwood dragged the team down
- Sullivan... what did he do? Can't remember a single shot of him. Was alongside the best player but couldn't deliver

Friday afternoon fourball:
- Willet tamely went down with Kaymers misery

Saterday morning foursomes:
- despite a great playing Stenson, Fitzpatrick dragged the team down
(well well well, Wood/Rose won, but against a beatable team)

Saterday afternoon fourball:
-Willet/Westwood screwed a very good chance
-Again Rose showed nothing, Stenson was alone in this match

English singles:
0 out of 6
again:
0 out of 6

So that's about 1(!) "English" point...

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Re: Ryder Cup vs Brexit

Post by navyblueshorts on Thu 06 Oct 2016, 8:27 am

picard Typical. Applying 21st century morals to comments from an earlier time. It doesn't work I'm afraid. By the way, using Gandhi is a poor show, given some of Gandhi's utterances.
Anyway, we're way off topic now. No more from me.
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Post by MontysMerkin on Thu 06 Oct 2016, 8:50 am

navyblueshorts wrote:picard Typical. Applying 21st century morals to comments from an earlier time. It doesn't work I'm afraid. By the way, using Gandhi is a poor show, given some of Gandhi's utterances.
Anyway, we're way off topic now. No more from me.
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Re: Ryder Cup vs Brexit

Post by pedro on Thu 06 Oct 2016, 8:55 am

Had England not been an island it would have seen the same fate as France.


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Re: Ryder Cup vs Brexit

Post by super_realist on Thu 06 Oct 2016, 9:06 am

What does that even mean Pedro? How can you "show faith"?

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Re: Ryder Cup vs Brexit

Post by MontysMerkin on Thu 06 Oct 2016, 9:18 am

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Re: Ryder Cup vs Brexit

Post by pedro on Thu 06 Oct 2016, 9:39 am

thanks, corrected.

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Post by Mad for Chelsea on Thu 06 Oct 2016, 11:29 am

There's actually an interesting discussion to be had here over the way History is taught in various countries. Certainly in France, some of the more distasteful aspects of France's role in WWII are glossed over fairly quickly. Not so much the speed with which the army were defeated (as pedro points out, the German ground forces were formidable, though the French's inability to plan for Germany invading through Belgium gets rightly criticised). However, the collaboration of the French Vichy government with Nazi Germany gets dealt with quickly*, while the heroics of the French Resistance get a much longer part. In short, the French view the latter's role as meaning they were on the "winning" side all along.

*There's an American historian, Robert Paxton, who wrote a terrific book on the scale of this collaboration: Vichy France : Old Guard and New Order, 1940-1944. Highly recommended for those interested in this particular part of History.

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Re: Ryder Cup vs Brexit

Post by kwinigolfer on Thu 06 Oct 2016, 11:47 am

Better yet, go to the World War II Museum in New Orleans (yup, New Orleans) and learn how America won the war.
If only our parents' and grandparents' generations had known that they could have sat back in their armchairs and been invaded, knowing that the US would be along to set things straight in time for the 45/46 Football Season.
Mum and Dad, what were you thinking?

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Post by super_realist on Thu 06 Oct 2016, 11:52 am

That's one of the worst things an American can say Kwini, usually accompanied by "you'd all be speaking German now if it weren't for us" nonsense.

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Post by MontysMerkin on Thu 06 Oct 2016, 12:31 pm

super_realist wrote:That's one of the worst things an American can say Kwini, usually accompanied by "you'd all be speaking German now if it weren't for us" nonsense.
Ha, I Frak love that one!
Also how patriotic the english can be after some of the most appalling foreign policy snafus in history - the slaughter we have committed over the world is barely believable. And yet there are those who are proud and spout rubbish saying it was all back when times were different. And yet we are still responsible for a huge amount of bloodshed happening now!
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Post by super_realist on Thu 06 Oct 2016, 12:33 pm

Come on Monty, The atrocities of the past are a shameful thing, but is todays bloodshed our responsibility?

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Post by navyblueshorts on Thu 06 Oct 2016, 12:34 pm

Mad for Chelsea wrote:There's actually an interesting discussion to be had here over the way History is taught in various countries. Certainly in France, some of the more distasteful aspects of France's role in WWII are glossed over fairly quickly. Not so much the speed with which the army were defeated (as pedro points out, the German ground forces were formidable, though the French's inability to plan for Germany invading through Belgium gets rightly criticised). However, the collaboration of the French Vichy government with Nazi Germany gets dealt with quickly*, while the heroics of the French Resistance get a much longer part. In short, the French view the latter's role as meaning they were on the "winning" side all along.

*There's an American historian, Robert Paxton, who wrote a terrific book on the scale of this collaboration: Vichy France : Old Guard and New Order, 1940-1944. Highly recommended for those interested in this particular part of History.
It is indeed interesting, but it would be better on the 'Anything goes...' thread.
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Re: Ryder Cup vs Brexit

Post by navyblueshorts on Thu 06 Oct 2016, 12:35 pm

Seriously, take this to the 'Anything goes...' thread.
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Re: Ryder Cup vs Brexit

Post by Davie on Thu 06 Oct 2016, 12:43 pm

The whole thread should be moved there .. we were, after all, told the initial post was a "joke" anyway...

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Re: Ryder Cup vs Brexit

Post by super_realist on Thu 06 Oct 2016, 12:48 pm

Calm down guys, not like it's broken the forum. Christ.

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Re: Ryder Cup vs Brexit

Post by raycastleunited on Thu 06 Oct 2016, 2:34 pm

navyblueshorts wrote:picard Typical. Applying 21st century morals to comments from an earlier time. It doesn't work I'm afraid. By the way, using Gandhi is a poor show, given some of Gandhi's utterances.
Anyway, we're way off topic now. No more from me.

So one minute you're saying Churchill's comments are entirely appropriate and relatable today, and the next you're saying you can't apply his comments to today's society. Which is it? Make you mind up!

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Re: Ryder Cup vs Brexit

Post by super_realist on Thu 06 Oct 2016, 2:36 pm

Watch out, Off topic police will be round soon Ray.

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Post by raycastleunited on Thu 06 Oct 2016, 2:37 pm

navyblueshorts wrote:Seriously, take this to the 'Anything goes...' thread.

Who cares? This discussion has evolved, nobody is interested in the original post any more, unless someone has complained about the thread being hijacked I say let's continue. I'm really interested in Mad for chelsea's experience of French education. Vive la revolution!

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Post by MontysMerkin on Thu 06 Oct 2016, 2:52 pm

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Post by navyblueshorts on Thu 06 Oct 2016, 5:46 pm

raycastleunited wrote:
navyblueshorts wrote:Seriously, take this to the 'Anything goes...' thread.

Who cares? This discussion has evolved, nobody is interested in the original post any more, unless someone has complained about the thread being hijacked I say let's continue. I'm really interested in Mad for chelsea's experience of French education. Vive la revolution!
Fine. Consider this one closed.
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