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Champions Cup Round One

Post by Fluxy on Mon 10 Oct 2016, 9:11 am

Home teams to be named by 23:59 hours on Tuesday 
Away teams to be named by 23:59 hours on Wednesday 
Tactics by 23:59 hours on Thursday 


Predictions to be PM’d to Fluxy by 18:00 hours on Sunday 


Glasgow Warriors vs Saracens
Scotstoun Stadium
Light Rain, 13 degrees, 12mph Easterly Winds


Glasgow Warriors

01. Gordon Reid09. Ali Price
02. Corey Flynn10. Rory Clegg
03. Sila Puafisi
04. Robert Harley11. Lee Jones
05. Robert McAlpine12. Sam Johnson
06. Josh Strauss13. Nick Grigg
07. Fraser Brown14. Sean Lamont
08. Ryan Wilson (c)15. Peter Murchie
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Replacements: 16 James Malcolm, 17 Djustice Sears-Duru, 18 Zander Fagerson, 19 Callum Hunter-Hill, 20 Matt Fagerson, 21 Grayson Hart, 22 Stuart Hogg, 23 Leonardo Sarto


Saracens
Manager – Pooly

01. Simon McIntyre09. Brad Weber
02. Richard Hibbard10. Tom Taylor
03. Paul Hill
04. Bradley Davies11. Teddy Thomas
05. Geoff Parling12. Ollie Devoto
06. Guy Thompson13. Lionel Mapoe
07. Will Fraser14. Telusa Veainu 
08. Nathan Hughes15. Delon Armitage
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16. Scott Spurling 17. Alex Waller 18. Ben Franks 19. Patrick Tuipulotu 20. David Denton 21. Lee Dickson 22. Robbie Fruen 23. Hosea Gear

Tactics:

Defensive:

Blitz Defence - Get in the face of the opposition and allow them very little time on the ball.

Breakdown - Turnover possession: Your side is recognised to pick off turnovers at the breakdown, by getting the ball and gaining the penalty

Attacking:

Territorial Kicking: Looking to pin back sides and kick for open spaces or touch

Offloading in the tackle: Moving the point of attack preventing a defence to set and keeping play fluid







Northampton Saints vs Zebre Rugby
Franklin Gardens
Light Cloud, 14 degrees, 10mph North Easterly Winds


Northampton Saints
Manager: Dammit Chris

01. Logi Mulipola09. Joe Simpson
02. Schalk Brits10. George Ford
03. Zander Fagerson
04. Joe Launchbury (c)11. Manuel Montero
05. Jonny Gray12. Harry Mallinder (k)
06. Jack Lam13. Elliot Daly
07. Brendon O'Connor14. Matt Banahan
08. Facundo Isa15. Ben Foden
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Replacements
16. Ashley Johnson 17. Nic Auterac 18. Jake Cooper-Wooley 19. Vaea Fifita 20. James Davies 21. Jamie Shillcock 22. Rieko Ioane 23. Tyler Morgan

Attributes:
Breakdown - Clearing: Ensuring the possession is clean and quick with quick support to the breakdown
First phase attack/strike moves: Will look to break the defence, with either a bust through or a clever move to create a gap.

Blitz Defence: Your side is known for Blitz and excels at it
Breakdown - Turnover possession: Your side is recognised to pick off turnovers at the breakdown, by getting the ball and gaining the penalty.

Tactics
Play this game at speed and a real high intensity from the outset and look to test the Italian's defence, we are going for the BP win and by playing a pace we expect to create a lot of attacking opportunities. We want to dominate the breakdown area and backrow battle and out-muscle the Italians in this area. We have picked a lot of physical ball carriers to get us over the gain-line and some backs in good try scoring form to take advantage of attacking chances. We want tries and have picked a real impact bench to finish the game strongly (Shillcock also plays no9, not just a FB).



Zebre Rugby

01. Andrea Lovotti09. Guglielmo Palazzani
02. Oliviero Fabiani10. Carlo Canna
03. Pietro Ceccarelli
04. Joshua Furno11. Giovanbattista Venditti
05. George Biagi (c)12. Tommaso Castello
06. Maxime Mbandà13. Giulio Bisegni
07. Johan Meyer14. Kayle Van Zyl
08. Andries Van Schalkwyk15. Edoardo Padovani
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Replacements: 16 Carlo Festuccia, 17 Bruno Postiglioni, 18 Dario Chistolini, 19 Quintin Geldenhuys, 20 Federico Ruzza, 21 Marcello Violi, 22 Tommaso Boni, 23 Lloyd Greeff





RC Toulon vs Sale Sharks
Stade Mayol
Sunny, 22 degrees, 10 mph North Westlerly Winds


RC Toulon

01. Florian Fresia09. Eric Escande
02. Anthony Etrillard10. Anthony Bellau
03. Marcel van der Merwe
04. Juandré Kruger11. Jimmy Yobo
05. Romain Taofifenua12. Matt Carraro
06. Samu Manoa13. Maxime Mermoz
07. Liam Gill14. Josua Tuisova
08. Duane Vermeulen15. James O'Connor
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Replacements: 16 Guilhem Guirado, 17 Xavier Chiocci, 18 Jocelino Suta, 19 Aidon Davis, 20 Ayumu Goromaru, 21 Pierre Bernard, 22 Anthony Meric, 23 Levan Chilachava


 Sale Sharks
Manager – SJE

01. Jack McGrath 09. Danny Care 
02. Tommy Taylor  10. Johnny Sexton
03. Rabah Slimani
04. Dave Attwood11. Ruan Combrinck
05. Matt Garvey12. Kyle Eastmond
06. Steven Luatua13. Seta Taminavula
07. Sam Cane14. Semesa Rokoduguni
08. CJ Stander15. Simon Zebo
Subs:
16. Malcolm Marx 17. Ross Harrison 18. Martin Moore 19. Christian Day 20. Peter O'Mahony 21. Kieran Marmion 22. Curwin Bosch 23. Nemani Nadolo

Attributes:
Phase Attack: Attacks build momentum until an opportunity arises.
Breakdown - Clearing: Ensuring the possession is clean and quick with quick support to the breakdown.

Blitz Defence: Your side is known for Blitz and excels at it.
Breakdown - Slowing up ball: The defenders can get over the ball to slow it up and prevent the attack from building momentum and allowing your defence to set.  

Looking for our usual fast paced physical offloading game to really take it to this Toulon side. Toulon not the force they were two seasons ago. Sexton to look to mix it up and punish the positioning of the Toulon wingers from time to time as well. Put pressure on the young inexperienced flyhalf with big runners down his channel and our usual blitz on defence.





Scarlets vs Wasps
Parc y Scarlets
Light Rain Showers, 14 degrees, 12mph South Easterly Winds


Scarlets

01. Wyn Jones09. Aled Davies
02. Ken Owens (c)10. Rhys Patchell
03. Samson Lee
04. Lewins Rawlins11. Steff Evans
05. David Bulbring12. Scott Williams
06. Aaron Shingler13. Hadleigh Parkes
07. James Davies14. DTH Van Der Merwe
08. Morgan Allen15. Liam William 
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Replacements: 16 Ryan Elias, 17 Luke Garrett, 18 Werner Kruger, 19 Rynier Bernardo, 20 John Barclay, 21 Jonathan Evans, 22 Dan Jones, 23 Steff HughesWasps
Manager - Driver

01. Thomas Du Toit09. Mitchell Drummond
02. Bismark Du Plessis10. Rhy Priestland (k)
03. Frans Malherbe
04. RG Snyman11. Marland Yarde
05. Alun Wyn Jones (c)12. Brad Barritt
06. Tom Wood13. Henry Slade
07. Will Owen14. Anthony Watson
08. Nazeem Carr15. Tim Nanai Williams
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16. Harry Thacker, 17. Ben Moon, 18. Frasier Balmain, 19. Sebastian Vaahaminia, 20. Louis Picamoles, 21. Luther Burrell, 22. Tom Homer, 23. Rob Kearney





Newcastle Falcons vs Montpellier
Kingston Park
Light Rain, 12 degrees, 13mph South Easterly Winds


 Newcastle Falcons
Manager – Bambam

01. Matt Mullan09. Rhys Webb 
02. Jamie George   10. Paddy Jackson 
03. Vincent Koch
04. Matt Symons11. David Strettle
05. Lood De Jager12. Jan Serfontein
06. Callum Clark13. Sam James
07. Pablo Matera14. Luke Morahan
08. Jordi Murphy 15. Charles Piutau
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16.George McGuigan 17.Alec Hepburn 18. Charlie Faumuina 19. Guido Petti 20. Francois Louw 21. Will Chudley 22. Owen Farrell  23. Ben Smith

Attributes
Counter Attacking: Receiving the ball down field, your players will look to attack with ball in hand, thriving in the broken field and open spaces.
Phase Attack: Attacks build momentum until an opportunity arises.
Breakdown: Slowing up ball: The defenders can get over the ball to slow it up and prevent the attack from building momentum and allowing your defence to set.
Blitz Defence: Your side is known for Blitz and excels at it

Set piece - Look to really put their props under maximum pressure with our strong front row, we've got a great scrummaging lock pairing to help. If no weakness, use as restart. On their ball, mark their second rows and force long throws. On our ball, use the back row options to mix it up.

Breakdown - Back row and hooker to lead the way on turnovers. Others focus on strong clear outs and maintaining a strong defensive line. . On our ball, smash them off the ball, use pod system to ensure support if they are having success. Our openside is charged with keeping their main breakdown threat off our ball, and target turnovers if one of their carriers gets isolated

Kicking - Options throughout the backs. Kick in behind the wings for territory, aim for space not the man. Challenge wings positioning, Wings free to drop back for the counter off their kicks

Attack - Run our attack off 9 who sets the tempo, constantly change the point of attack and get our 10 quick ball.. Challenge their 10 defensively with our power backs cutting in running hard lines at his channel with the full back coming into the line. Big carrying forwards to set a platform, run at 10/12 all day long to put them on the back foot off first phase, see how they handle it.  

Defence - no weak links in the backline, use the blitz defence to put them on the back foot,  Serfontein to set the tone in defence, putting pressure on their midfield

Bench - Big carrying forwards throughout and talented, pacy backs to see us home



Montpellier

01. Mikheil Nariashvili09. Nic White
02. Shalva Mamukashvili10. Demetri Catrakilis
03. Davit Kubriashvili
04. Jacques du Plessis11. Benjamin Fall
05. Paul Willemse12. François Steyn
06. Fulgence Ouedraogo13. Alexandre Dumoulin
07. Kélian Galletier14. Marvin O’Connor
08. Akapusi Qera15. Ben Botica
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Replacements: 16 Arno van Wyk, 17 Gregory Fichten, 18 Nicolaas Janse van Rensburg, 19 Pierre Spies, 20 Benoît Paillaugue, 21 Vincent Martin, 22 Henry Immelman, 23 Gagi Bazadze





Harlequins vs ASM Clermont Auvergne
Twickenham Stoop
Light Cloud, 15 degrees, 10mph Southerly Winds


Harlequins
Manager – Steven_Sharks


01. Richard Barrington09. Ben Youngs
02. Scott Baldwin10. Elton Jantjies (k)
03. Kieran Brookes
04. Ultan Dillane11. Jack Nowell
05. Pieter Steph Du Toit12. Robbie Henshaw
06. Jean Luc Du Preez13. Jonathan Joseph
07. Jaco Kriel14. Santiago Cordero
08. Jack Clifford (c)15. Damien McKenzie
16. Rob Webber 17. Ethan Waller 18. Tadhg Furlong 19. George Kruis 20. Dan Leavy 21. Ruan Pienaar 22. Steven Myler 23. Bundee Aki

Attributes

Phase Attack - Attacks build momentum until an opportunity arises. 

Counter Attack - Receiving the ball down field, your players will look to attack with ball in hand, thriving in the broken field and open spaces. 

Breakdown (Turnover Possession) -  Your side is recognised to pick off turnovers at the breakdown, by getting the ball and gaining the penalty

Chop Tackle: Tacklers look to get low and chop down attackers before gaining momentum or metres over the gain line. 

Game Plan




ASM Clermont Auvergne

01. Etienne Falgoux09. Morgan Parra
02. Nathan Charles10. Camille Lopez
03. Davit Zirakashvili
04. Arthur Itarria11. Noa Nakaitaci
05. Sébastien Vahaamahina12. Wesley Fofana
06. Damien Chouly13. Remi Lamerat
07. Judicael Cancoriet14. David Strettle
08. Fritz Lee15. Nick Abendanon
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Replacements: 16 Benjamin Kayser, 17 Thomas Domingo, 18 Paul Jedrasiak, 19 Camille Gerondeau, 20 Ludovic Radosavljevic, 21 Patricio Fernandez, 22 Isaia Toeava, 23 Clement Ric



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Re: Champions Cup Round One

Post by dammit_chris on Mon 10 Oct 2016, 10:18 am

Northampton Saints
Manager: Dammit Chris

01. Logi Mulipola09. Joe Simpson
02. Schalk Brits10. George Ford
03. Zander Fagerson
04. Joe Launchbury (c)11. Manuel Montero
05. Jonny Gray12. Harry Mallinder (k)
06. Jack Lam13. Elliot Daly
07. Brendon O'Connor14. Matt Banahan
08. Facundo Isa15. Ben Foden
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Replacements
16. Ashley Johnson 17. Nic Auterac 18. Jake Cooper-Wooley 19. Vaea Fifita 20. James Davies 21. Jamie Shillcock 22. Rieko Ioane 23. Tyler Morgan

Attributes:
Breakdown - Clearing: Ensuring the possession is clean and quick with quick support to the breakdown
First phase attack/strike moves: Will look to break the defence, with either a bust through or a clever move to create a gap.

Blitz Defence: Your side is known for Blitz and excels at it
Breakdown - Turnover possession: Your side is recognised to pick off turnovers at the breakdown, by getting the ball and gaining the penalty.

Tactics
Play this game at speed and a real high intensity from the outset and look to test the Italian's defence, we are going for the BP win and by playing a pace we expect to create a lot of attacking opportunities. We want to dominate the breakdown area and backrow battle and out-muscle the Italians in this area. We have picked a lot of physical ball carriers to get us over the gain-line and some backs in good try scoring form to take advantage of attacking chances. We want tries and have picked a real impact bench to finish the game strongly (Shillcock also plays no9, not just a FB).


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Re: Champions Cup Round One

Post by SirJohnnyEnglish on Mon 10 Oct 2016, 10:58 am

Sale Sharks
Manager – SJE

01. Jack McGrath 09. Danny Care
02. Tommy Taylor  10. Johnny Sexton
03. Rabah Slimani
04. Dave Attwood11. Ruan Combrinck
05. Matt Garvey12. Kyle Eastmond
06. Steven Luatua13. Seta Taminavula
07. Sam Cane14. Semesa Rokoduguni
08. CJ Stander15. Simon Zebo
Subs:
16. Malcolm Marx 17. Ross Harrison 18. Martin Moore 19. Christian Day 20. Peter O'Mahony 21. Kieran Marmion 22. Curwin Bosch 23. Nemani Nadolo

Attributes:
Phase Attack: Attacks build momentum until an opportunity arises.
Breakdown - Clearing: Ensuring the possession is clean and quick with quick support to the breakdown.

Blitz Defence: Your side is known for Blitz and excels at it.
Breakdown - Slowing up ball: The defenders can get over the ball to slow it up and prevent the attack from building momentum and allowing your defence to set.  

Looking for our usual fast paced physical offloading game to really take it to this Toulon side. Toulon not the force they were two seasons ago. Sexton to look to mix it up and punish the positioning of the Toulon wingers from time to time as well. Put pressure on the young inexperienced flyhalf with big runners down his channel and our usual blitz on defence.


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Re: Champions Cup Round One

Post by dammit_chris on Mon 10 Oct 2016, 11:27 am

dammit_chris wrote:Northampton Saints
Manager: Dammit Chris

01. Logi Mulipola09. Joe Simpson
02. Schalk Brits10. George Ford
03. Jake Cooper-Wooley
04. Joe Launchbury (c)11. Manuel Montero
05. Jonny Gray12. Harry Mallinder (k)
06. Jack Lam13. Elliot Daly
07. David Pocock14. Matt Banahan
08. Facundo Isa15. Ben Foden
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Replacements
16. Ashley Johnson 17. Conan O'Donnell 18. Zander Fagerson 19. Vaea Fifita 20. James Davies 21. Jamie Shillcock 22. Paulo Odogwu 23. Rieko Ioane

Made some changes as don't think I have Auturec anymore, and just threw a team very quickly together, sure that's ok as been a lot of changes to teams this season?

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Re: Champions Cup Round One

Post by Fluxy on Mon 10 Oct 2016, 11:32 am

You're fine, before the team deadline mate OK


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Re: Champions Cup Round One

Post by BamBam on Mon 10 Oct 2016, 12:15 pm

Newcastle Falcons
Manager – Bambam

01. Matt Mullan09. Rhys Webb
02. Jamie George   10. Paddy Jackson
03. Vincent Koch
04. Matt Symons11. David Strettle
05. Lood De Jager12. Jan Serfontein
06. Callum Clark13. Sam James
07. Pablo Matera14. Luke Morahan
08. Jordi Murphy 15. Charles Piutau
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16.George McGuigan 17.Alec Hepburn 18. Charlie Faumuina 19. Guido Petti 20. Francois Louw 21. Will Chudley 22. Owen Farrell  23. Ben Smith

Attributes
Counter Attacking: Receiving the ball down field, your players will look to attack with ball in hand, thriving in the broken field and open spaces.
Phase Attack: Attacks build momentum until an opportunity arises.
Breakdown: Slowing up ball: The defenders can get over the ball to slow it up and prevent the attack from building momentum and allowing your defence to set.
Blitz Defence: Your side is known for Blitz and excels at it

Set piece - Look to really put their props under maximum pressure with our strong front row, we've got a great scrummaging lock pairing to help. If no weakness, use as restart. On their ball, mark their second rows and force long throws. On our ball, use the back row options to mix it up.

Breakdown - Back row and hooker to lead the way on turnovers. Others focus on strong clear outs and maintaining a strong defensive line. . On our ball, smash them off the ball, use pod system to ensure support if they are having success. Our openside is charged with keeping their main breakdown threat off our ball, and target turnovers if one of their carriers gets isolated

Kicking - Options throughout the backs. Kick in behind the wings for territory, aim for space not the man. Challenge wings positioning, Wings free to drop back for the counter off their kicks

Attack - Run our attack off 9 who sets the tempo, constantly change the point of attack and get our 10 quick ball.. Challenge their 10 defensively with our power backs cutting in running hard lines at his channel with the full back coming into the line. Big carrying forwards to set a platform, run at 10/12 all day long to put them on the back foot off first phase, see how they handle it.  

Defence - no weak links in the backline, use the blitz defence to put them on the back foot,  Serfontein to set the tone in defence, putting pressure on their midfield

Bench - Big carrying forwards throughout and talented, pacy backs to see us home


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Re: Champions Cup Round One

Post by dammit_chris on Mon 10 Oct 2016, 12:24 pm

Cheers Fluxy!

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Re: Champions Cup Round One

Post by Steven_Sharks on Mon 10 Oct 2016, 12:57 pm

Harlequins
Manager – Steven_Sharks


01. Richard Barrington09. Ben Youngs
02. Scott Baldwin10. Elton Jantjies (k)
03. Kieran Brookes
04. Ultan Dillane11. Jack Nowell
05. Pieter Steph Du Toit12. Robbie Henshaw
06. Jean Luc Du Preez13. Jonathan Joseph
07. Jaco Kriel14. Santiago Cordero
08. Jack Clifford (c)15. Damien McKenzie
16. Rob Webber 17. Ethan Waller 18. Tadhg Furlong 19. George Kruis 20. Dan Leavy 21. Ruan Pienaar 22. Steven Myler 23. Bundee Aki

Attributes

Phase Attack - Attacks build momentum until an opportunity arises. 

Counter Attack - Receiving the ball down field, your players will look to attack with ball in hand, thriving in the broken field and open spaces. 

Breakdown (Turnover Possession) -  Your side is recognised to pick off turnovers at the breakdown, by getting the ball and gaining the penalty

Chop Tackle: Tacklers look to get low and chop down attackers before gaining momentum or metres over the gain line. 

Game Plan

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Re: Champions Cup Round One

Post by Sgt_Pooly on Tue 11 Oct 2016, 12:39 pm

Saracens
Manager – Pooly

01. Simon McIntyre09. Brad Weber
02. Richard Hibbard10. Tom Taylor
03. Paul Hill
04. Bradley Davies11. Teddy Thomas
05. Geoff Parling12. Ollie Devoto
06. Guy Thompson13. Lionel Mapoe
07. Will Fraser14. Telusa Veainu
08. Nathan Hughes15. Delon Armitage
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16. Scott Spurling 17. Alex Waller 18. Ben Franks 19. Patrick Tuipulotu 20. David Denton 21. Lee Dickson 22. Robbie Fruen 23. Hosea Gear

Tactics:

Defensive:

Blitz Defence - Get in the face of the opposition and allow them very little time on the ball.

Breakdown - Turnover possession: Your side is recognised to pick off turnovers at the breakdown, by getting the ball and gaining the penalty

Attacking:

Territorial Kicking: Looking to pin back sides and kick for open spaces or touch

Offloading in the tackle: Moving the point of attack preventing a defence to set and keeping play fluid

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Re: Champions Cup Round One

Post by CJB on Thu 13 Oct 2016, 12:33 pm

Bath Rugby
Manager – CJB
01. Steven Kitchoff09. Maxine Machenaud
02. Mikey Haywood 10. Finn Russell
03. Scott Wilson
04. Charlie Ewers 11. Lolagi Visnia  
05. Mitch Lees 12. Sam Hill
06. Sekou Macalou  13. Harold Vorster
07. Liam Gill  14. Andrew Kellaway
08. Josh Beaumont 15. Cheslin Kolbe
16. Ellis Genge 17. Rory Best 18. Nepo Laulala 19. Will Skelton 20. Toby Falateu 21. Richard Wigglesworth 22. George
Moala 23. Liam Williams

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Re: Champions Cup Round One

Post by BamBam on Thu 13 Oct 2016, 1:53 pm

Wrong page CJB

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Re: Champions Cup Round One

Post by Fluxy on Fri 14 Oct 2016, 12:03 am

Page updated - predictions to me, out of the country all weekend, so will have until midday monday to get them in

*I have put in last week's Wasps side

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Re: Champions Cup Round One

Post by Fluxy on Mon 17 Oct 2016, 6:12 pm

Champions Cup Results - Round One

Glasgow Warriors 20 - 31 Saracens
Northampton Saints 66 - 10 Zebre Rugby
RC Toulon 22 - 29 Sale Sharks
Scarlets 21 - 27 Wasps
Newcastle Falcons 31 - 21 Montpelier
Harlequins 31 - 23 ASM Clermont Auvergne

Bonuses:
Full: CJB, Steve, Prop, Chris, SJE, Pooly, CJ, Bam
Scores: Nick, Flux
Nothing: Matt & Driver


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Re: Champions Cup Round One

Post by Fluxy on Mon 17 Oct 2016, 6:16 pm

Glasgow 18 - 32 Saracens
Saracens a level above in the set piece and the breakdown and despite a solid backrow from Glasgow, they can't really match much of the Saracen pack. Similarly, especially with the class of Veanui and Thomas, the Saracens backline is a class above

Glasgow 20-30 Sarries
Very strong Sarries pack and most of them bringing good form into this game. Same outwide and at half back, Glasgow not looking like the force they were for the past few seasons. Good away win here.

Glasgow 24 - 28 Saracens
Glasgow 22-24 Saracens

Glasgow 19 - 21 Saracens
If Glasgow had the team that played against Tigers in real life this weekend, they'd have this one comfortably, Sarries just have enough in the pack, but Fraser and Hughes struggling with form. Taylor/Deveto combination key.

Glasgow 22-26 Saracens
Glasgow have had better teams and Sarries have enough to get the victory.

Glasgow 15-24 Saracens
Sarries draw a rotated Glasgow side first up and should win comfortable enough. Taylor not the most attacking at 10 and a decent back row battle prevent the tbp.

Glasgow 19 - 30 Saracens
Glasgow's actual line up this weekend is a lot stronger than the one Sarries face, and its difficult to see an area where Glasgow even compete with a strong Sarries side. Sarries will have a set piece platform, and the pack to dominate even away from home, and I see a comfortable win for them

Glasgow 21-27 Saracens
Shame it's not Glasgow at full strength as would have a been a very tight game indeed.

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Re: Champions Cup Round One

Post by Fluxy on Mon 17 Oct 2016, 6:17 pm

Saints 67 - 12 Zebre
Big fan of Canna but otherwise with Saints' first choice halfbacks and a very strong pack, powerful wingers and blinding steps in the centres, it's a huge home win 

Saints 42-10 Zebre
Simple easy win here, Zebre won't be able to live with the Saints backline.

Saints 44-6 Zebre

Northampton Saints 70 - 19 Zebre Rugby

Northampton 65-9 Zebre
Routine win for Saints with a much stronger side. Only concern is playing Isa so early after the RC.

Saints 54-10 Zebre
Saints with a very strong lineup have enough to walk over Zebre. 

Northampton 80-9 Zebre
Not much an explanation needed for this one after the weekends results.

Saints 64 - 13 Zebre
Saints will absolutely tank the Italians, pretty much all there is to say when the talent gap is so vast

Saints 64 - 5 Zebre
A contest in nothing but name. Too good everywhere.

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Re: Champions Cup Round One

Post by Fluxy on Mon 17 Oct 2016, 6:18 pm

Toulon 24 - 28 Sale
Toulon are always strong at home, and have a great backrow, but still look fallible in the scrum and a full strength Sale side is pretty much too strong for them, with much better control from halfback, and a bench that even beats Toulon for depth 

Toulon 22-28 Sale
Pretty solid pack battle, front row could see Sale getting a slight nudge and Gill vs Cane will go the way of Cane. Half backs are where Sale take the game getting better ball and territory with the control they bring. The Toulon pack won't make it simple but Sale snatch and grab a good away win.

RC Toulon 25 - 26 Sale Sharks

Toulon 18-19 Sale

Toulon 23-26 Sale
Toulon still a threat but I'd expect Sale to have just a touch too much here with a strong side out. 

Toulon 16 - 19 Sale
Sale lucky to avoid full strength Toulon team and manage to get a great away win. Sexton looks to be getting a bit of his form back and will have a huge influence on the game.

Toulon 24-26 Sale 
Another team not so strong! The keys come in the front five and half backs. 

Toulon 17 - 30 Sale
Toulon have some talents in their side, but up against a very strong Sale side, can't see how they'll have much of an impact. Sale win comfortably on the road

Toulon 24 - 25 Sale
Another where its a shame it wasn't full strength Toulon. Sale have too much against a 2nd string Toulon even in France.

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Post by Fluxy on Mon 17 Oct 2016, 6:18 pm

Scarlets 16 - 21 Wasps
Scarlets maybe edge the backrow, and ckmpete at halfback, but with Barritt marshalling Williams and Scarlets' strong wing-FB combo matched with an equally good Wasps duo, Wasps have an advantage generally across the park and at the set piece and steal an away win 

Scarlets 22 - 21 Wasps

Scarlets 17-30 Wasps
Scarlets not been great so far this season and Wasps wll cause them all sorts of trouble up front and out wide.

Scarlets 27-30 Wasps

Scarlets 17-27 Wasps
Wasps again too strong although it's a tidy Scarlets outfit and they'll be no pushovers.

Scarlets 20 - 20 Wasps
Scarlets look fairly good this season, can't see Wasps getting the away win. 

Scarlets 21-24 Wasps
I can see Scarlets giving Irish a bit of a scare but the strength of the bench will finish them off 

Scarlets 19-16 Wasps
The welsh side in good nick and more was needed in the Wasps back row to overcome them.

Scarlets 23 - 25 Wasps
Scarlets looked decent at the weekend, but that was a weaker side than the one facing Wasps. No tactics makes a difference, and keeps it closer with the pests lacking direction, but think they'll come through on individual talent

Scarlets 13 - 22 Wasps
Wasps too good across the board and win a relatively one- sided contest.

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Post by Fluxy on Mon 17 Oct 2016, 6:19 pm

Falcons 23 - 15 Montpelier
Newcastle can take on and beat the Montpelier scrum and tight 5, and take away the most vital aspect of the Montpelier game approach. This leaves Montpelier with no platform and the strong and in form Falcons' back 3 take advantage 

Falcons 26-21 Montpellier
Good form for Falcons front row helps them here, a good second row battle and Falcons stronger in the back row. Half backs and centres will be a solid battle but Falcons more dangerous out wide and have more to offer from their bench.

Falcons 24-20 Montpellier

Newcastle Falcons 26 - 24 Montpelier

Newcastle 29-20 Montpelier
A tougher encounter away from home but obviously don't travel too well and Falcons look in decent shape. 

Newcastle 26 - 22 Montpellier 
Home team set out really well, Farrell and Smith from the bench will have a big impact too. 

Falcons 28-20Montpelier
Different game at home. The Falcons are a bit too strong all over 

Newcastle 27-24 Montpellier
Pretty strong side from the french but Falcons haven't underestimated them. Ben Smith could do with a break after the last Blesidoe game after being flown over for this one

Newcastle 26 - 24 Montpellier
Probably the game of the round. Falcons went strong and had to against a rugged and tough to breakdown Jake White side. Get a good home win.

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Post by Fluxy on Mon 17 Oct 2016, 6:20 pm

Quins 27 - 25 Clermont
Clermont match the Quins' scrum, but Quins are ahead in the second row and just have a bit more in their dynamic backrow, though Clermont are no slouches here. The HB combos both work well and are hard to separate, as are the classy back lines with lethal back 3s.  At home Quins win, but they will need tactics to win away

Quins 26-22 Clermont
Great game and a solid Quins front 5 to cause Clermont issues here and ensure they don't get great ball. Back row battle is a bit closer with both teams nullifying each other here. The return of Joseph targets the one weakness in that Clermont back line at 13 and will be enough, with good ball, to give Quins a solid win. Will be tougher away from home.

Harlequins 29 - 27 ASM Clermont Auvergne

Quins 25-22 Clermont

Harlequins 27-26 Clermont 
Closer encounter than some of the other games with the line-ups quite close. Home advantage just takes it.

Quins 25 - 20 Clermont
Not sure Clermont are the same side they were a few years back and Quins have an excellent European Cup team. They have enough power in the pack to unleash their backline. 

Quins 26-23 Clermont
Another team who will benefit from this being at home. Quins have better forwards to the strength of the Clermont backs.

Quins 21-19 Clermount 
Slightly weakened Clermount side and see Quins taking this at home  but a bit more will be needed against a full strength side away

Quins 33 - 24 Clermont
Shame that a few of these big games are against weakened French sides, otherwise could see a huge battle between these 2. As it is, Quins have enough quality to squeeze ASM in the pack, and have plenty of threats out wide to finish them off

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Re: Champions Cup Round One

Post by BamBam on Mon 17 Oct 2016, 7:29 pm

Fluxy did I not get the bonus

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Re: Champions Cup Round One

Post by Fluxy on Mon 17 Oct 2016, 7:32 pm

Updated Ok!

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Post by Sgt_Pooly on Tue 18 Oct 2016, 4:55 am

You're a better man than me for running with the Euro's Flux!

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Post by BamBam on Tue 18 Oct 2016, 7:27 am

Much appreciated Fluxy!

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