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Post by neilthom7 on Thu 13 Oct 2016, 6:14 pm

Bordeaux Begles v Ulster

Champions Cup Pool 5
Stade Chaban-Delmas
16th October 2016, 13:00 Kick off GMT
Live on Sky Sports

Referee JP Doyle (England)
Touch Judge 1 John Meredith (England)
Touch Judge 2 Peter Allan (England)
TMO Graham Hughes (England)
Citing Commissioner John Montgomery (Scotland)

Teams
Bordeaux
15 Jean-Marcellin Buttin, 14 Adam Ashley-Cooper, 13 Jean-Baptiste Dubié, 12 Romain Lonca, 11 Blair Connor, 10 Ian Madigan, 9 Yann Lesgourgues, 8 Loann Goujon, 7 Hugh Chalmers, 6 Luke Jones, 5 Cyril Cazeaux, 4 Jandré Marais (c), 3 Vadim Cobilas, 2 Clément Maynadier, 1 Jefferson Poirot
Replacements: 16 Ole Avei, 17 Sébastien Taofifenua, 18 Marc Clerc, 19 Tom Palmer, 20 Marco Tauleigne, 21 Baptiste Serin, 22 Lionel Beauxis, 23 Metuisela Talebula

Ulster
(15-9): Jared Payne, Andrew Trimble (captain), Luke Marshall, Stuart Olding, Craig Gilroy, Paddy Jackson, Ruan Pienaar;
(1-8): Andy Warwick, Rory Best, Rodney Ah You, Alan O'Connor, Franco van der Merwe, Iain Henderson, Clive Ross, Sean Reidy;
Replacements (16-23): Rob Herring, Kyle McCall, Ross Kane, Pete Browne, Roger Wilson, Paul Marshall, Jacob Stockdale, Rob Lyttle

First round of pool games in Pool 5 and both will want to get off to the perfect start.  One of the most fascinating battles in this will be the battle of the outhalves as Irish 10's Madigan and Jackson go head to head.


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Re: Bordeaux Begles v Ulster Rugby

Post by Notch on Thu 13 Oct 2016, 9:01 pm

Given the brand of rugby Bordeaux like to play, their great home crowd, and Ulsters recent record on the road in France this could be one of the best games of the weekend.

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Re: Bordeaux Begles v Ulster Rugby

Post by neilthom7 on Thu 13 Oct 2016, 10:12 pm

It really could, Ulster have a lot of injuries in that back line though. One thing's for sure and that is that Ulster will have to front up at the breakdown much better than v Connacht

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Re: Bordeaux Begles v Ulster Rugby

Post by whocares on Thu 13 Oct 2016, 11:32 pm

UBB also has a few injuries. Might start a lock in the back row this weekend. Other than that the way the team has been playing so far doesn't give much confindence. The work rate and commitment isn't really there and they have been a bit laidback but hope this first European game give them wings. Good news is that Madigan has fit quite well so far.

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Post by Munchkin on Thu 13 Oct 2016, 11:42 pm

whocares wrote:UBB also has a few injuries. Might start a lock in the back row this weekend. Other than that the way the team has been playing so far doesn't give much confindence. The work rate and commitment isn't really there and they have been a bit laidback but hope this first European game give them wings. Good news is that Madigan has fit quite well so far.

The same can be said of Ulsters last game.

Jackson will drive Madigan into the dirt again Cool

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Post by whocares on Fri 14 Oct 2016, 12:12 am

who? Paddy Jackson? Madigan will show him how it's done Smile


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Re: Bordeaux Begles v Ulster Rugby

Post by Notch on Fri 14 Oct 2016, 12:22 am

Paddy says "Bring it"


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Post by Munchkin on Fri 14 Oct 2016, 1:53 am

whocares wrote:who? Paddy Jackson? Madigan will show him how it's done Smile

Madigan on hearing he will have to play against Jackson again:









...and he thought he was safe in France Smile

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Post by Munchkin on Fri 14 Oct 2016, 12:07 pm

Ulster team and replacements to play Bordeaux-Bègles, Sunday 16th October, Stade Chaban-Delmas (kick-off 2.00pm local time, 1.00pm BST):

(15-9): Jared Payne, Andrew Trimble (captain), Luke Marshall, Stuart Olding, Craig Gilroy, Paddy Jackson, Ruan Pienaar;
(1-8): Andy Warwick, Rory Best, Rodney Ah You, Alan O'Connor, Franco van der Merwe, Iain Henderson, Clive Ross, Sean Reidy;

Replacements (16-23): Rob Herring, Kyle McCall, Ross Kane, Pete Browne, Roger Wilson, Paul Marshall, Jacob Stockdale, Rob Lyttle.

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Post by Munchkin on Fri 14 Oct 2016, 12:14 pm

Think that's the strongest side we can field. Happy with the bench. Fairly confident of a win.

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Post by Munchkin on Fri 14 Oct 2016, 12:28 pm

And this is the Ulster side a Fench paper thinks we're putting out:



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Post by marty2086 on Fri 14 Oct 2016, 1:00 pm

Munchkin wrote:And this is the Ulster side a Fench paper thinks we're putting out:



Very Happy

Someone obviously hasn't watched much of Ulster recently going by that predicted team

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Post by Munchkin on Fri 14 Oct 2016, 1:05 pm

Shoddy journalism. At the very least they should have known Cave is injured. Think they picked the names out of a hat.

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Post by marty2086 on Fri 14 Oct 2016, 1:17 pm

Yeah they left Herring out completely along with Browne and Ross with McCall starting

Surprised no ones noticed we've got an Irish ref, just hope some of our Welsh brethren don't anyway Whistle

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Post by whocares on Fri 14 Oct 2016, 1:29 pm

I assume this is from mid olympique who just makes guesses for their Friday edition before the teams are out. even UBB team was not correct.

from planet rugby :
http://www.planetrugby.com/news/preview-bordeaux-ba%c2%a8gles-v-ulster/

UBB: 15 Jean-Marcellin Buttin, 14 Adam Ashley-Cooper, 13 Jean-Baptiste Dubié, 12 Romain Lonca, 11 Blair Connor, 10 Ian Madigan, 9 Yann Lesgourgues, 8 Loann Goujon, 7 Hugh Chalmers, 6 Luke Jones, 5 Cyril Cazeaux, 4 Jandré Marais (c), 3 Vadim Cobilas, 2 Clément Maynadier, 1 Jefferson Poirot
Replacements: 16 Ole Avei, 17 Sébastien Taofifenua, 18 Marc Clerc, 19 Tom Palmer, 20 Marco Tauleigne, 21 Baptiste Serin, 22 Lionel Beauxis, 23 Metuisela Talebula

Most players on the bench are actually stronger than the ones starting (front row, SH , FB) and as feared we are starting a lock (luke jones) as flanker. Our midfield (centres) seems UBB weakest point withy players that don't often play there and lack a bit lightweight imo (but if I remember correctly that was the partnership that eliminated Clermont last year).

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Post by Munchkin on Fri 14 Oct 2016, 1:34 pm

What do you think of the Begles team, whocares? Scratch that. You have already told us Doh

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Post by marty2086 on Fri 14 Oct 2016, 1:57 pm

whocares wrote:I assume this is from mid olympique who just makes guesses for their Friday edition before the teams are out. even UBB team was not correct.

I knew it was a prediction, just a really bad one

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Post by Don Alfonso on Sat 15 Oct 2016, 8:30 am

[quote=marty2086]Yeah they left Herring out completely along with Browne and Ross with McCall starting

Surprised no ones noticed we've got an Irish ref, just hope some of our Welsh brethren don't anyway Whistle [/quote]

It's all about who employs them these days. Keep up.

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Post by Notch on Sat 15 Oct 2016, 9:24 am

I quite like JP Doyle as a referee Smile

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Post by eirebilly on Sat 15 Oct 2016, 9:57 am

If Ulster do not get a TBP win I will be extremely surprised. Think it is a very strong team and with Payne leading the line at 15 bringing Marshall and Olding into attacking lines.

Should be a high scoring and entertaining game to watch thumbsup

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Post by Rory_Gallagher on Sat 15 Oct 2016, 10:39 am

I sincerely hope you're right, Billy!

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Post by Notch on Sat 15 Oct 2016, 10:40 am

The thing is billy, this back line is mouthwatering on paper but there has been so much rotation and so many injuries that we basically haven't seen the same back line twice in a game this season yet.

Even without Piutau that back line could be the best in Europe, but its going to take a while to click if we keep chopping and changing. I mean, its Trimbles first game of the season and the first time we've seen this back three together this season. I wouldn't be surprised if there is a bit of rustiness. I hope you're right though because there have been some real flashes of excellence from the backs so far. Sure even against Connacht we scored a fine try under the posts off a beautiful set move.

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Post by eirebilly on Sat 15 Oct 2016, 11:57 am

May not have played regularly together this season but this Ulster backline is not unfamiliar with each other. Possibly the best backline in the Pro-12 and maybe even Europe.

Paddy to teach Madigan a lesson again and prove why he should be the full time back up to Sexton ... actually, why Sexton should almost be considering a future as back up 10 to Paddy for Ireland.

Ulster by 15 in a high scoring match thumbsup

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Post by marty2086 on Sat 15 Oct 2016, 12:04 pm

Think you may be underestimating Bordeaux, not to mention the pitch isn't great in Bordeaux so Ulsters backline may fight the going tough

May also be why Bowe isn't in this weekend to protect him from injury

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Post by eirebilly on Sat 15 Oct 2016, 12:09 pm

Aahh marty, positive thinking brother thumbsup

Bordeaux are really not that good and their only chance in this match is to win the forwards battle. Their backline will be totally outclassed by Ulster's. Its why I suspect a high scoring and entertaining match with Ulster getting the TBP.

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Post by marty2086 on Sat 15 Oct 2016, 12:17 pm

I am thinking positive but Bordeaux are 5th in the Top 14 and above Toulouse and Racing and usually pretty good at home, just think it'll be tougher than most seem to be thinking

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Post by eirebilly on Sat 15 Oct 2016, 12:22 pm

Not saying it will be easy, no game against French teams are. I just do not think that Bordeaux are as good as their position in the Top-14. For me, Ulster are simply a better team and will be a case of who scores more, not who defends better which is why I feel Ulster will win with their dominant backline. thumbsup

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Post by Munchkin on Sat 15 Oct 2016, 2:42 pm

whocares wrote:I assume this is from mid olympique who just makes guesses for their Friday edition before the teams are out. even UBB team was not correct.

from planet rugby :
http://www.planetrugby.com/news/preview-bordeaux-ba%c2%a8gles-v-ulster/

UBB: 15 Jean-Marcellin Buttin, 14 Adam Ashley-Cooper, 13 Jean-Baptiste Dubié, 12 Romain Lonca, 11 Blair Connor, 10 Ian Madigan, 9 Yann Lesgourgues, 8 Loann Goujon, 7 Hugh Chalmers, 6 Luke Jones, 5 Cyril Cazeaux, 4 Jandré Marais (c), 3 Vadim Cobilas, 2 Clément Maynadier, 1 Jefferson Poirot
Replacements: 16 Ole Avei, 17 Sébastien Taofifenua, 18 Marc Clerc, 19 Tom Palmer, 20 Marco Tauleigne, 21 Baptiste Serin, 22 Lionel Beauxis, 23 Metuisela Talebula

Most players on the bench are actually stronger than the ones starting (front row, SH , FB) and as feared we are starting a lock (luke jones) as flanker. Our midfield (centres) seems UBB weakest point withy players that don't often play there and lack a bit lightweight imo (but if I remember correctly that was the partnership that eliminated Clermont last year).

Our players will have Goujon for breakfast Cool


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Post by Don Alfonso on Sat 15 Oct 2016, 5:45 pm

Munchkin wrote:
whocares wrote:I assume this is from mid olympique who just makes guesses for their Friday edition before the teams are out. even UBB team was not correct.

from planet rugby :
http://www.planetrugby.com/news/preview-bordeaux-ba%c2%a8gles-v-ulster/

UBB: 15 Jean-Marcellin Buttin, 14 Adam Ashley-Cooper, 13 Jean-Baptiste Dubié, 12 Romain Lonca, 11 Blair Connor, 10 Ian Madigan, 9 Yann Lesgourgues, 8 Loann Goujon, 7 Hugh Chalmers, 6 Luke Jones, 5 Cyril Cazeaux, 4 Jandré Marais (c), 3 Vadim Cobilas, 2 Clément Maynadier, 1 Jefferson Poirot
Replacements: 16 Ole Avei, 17 Sébastien Taofifenua, 18 Marc Clerc, 19 Tom Palmer, 20 Marco Tauleigne, 21 Baptiste Serin, 22 Lionel Beauxis, 23 Metuisela Talebula

Most players on the bench are actually stronger than the ones starting (front row, SH , FB) and as feared we are starting a lock (luke jones) as flanker. Our midfield (centres) seems UBB weakest point withy players that don't often play there and lack a bit lightweight imo (but if I remember correctly that was the partnership that eliminated Clermont last year).

Our players will have Goujon for breakfast Cool


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Post by Notch on Sat 15 Oct 2016, 10:11 pm

Don Alfonso wrote:
Munchkin wrote:
whocares wrote:I assume this is from mid olympique who just makes guesses for their Friday edition before the teams are out. even UBB team was not correct.

from planet rugby :
http://www.planetrugby.com/news/preview-bordeaux-ba%c2%a8gles-v-ulster/

UBB: 15 Jean-Marcellin Buttin, 14 Adam Ashley-Cooper, 13 Jean-Baptiste Dubié, 12 Romain Lonca, 11 Blair Connor, 10 Ian Madigan, 9 Yann Lesgourgues, 8 Loann Goujon, 7 Hugh Chalmers, 6 Luke Jones, 5 Cyril Cazeaux, 4 Jandré Marais (c), 3 Vadim Cobilas, 2 Clément Maynadier, 1 Jefferson Poirot
Replacements: 16 Ole Avei, 17 Sébastien Taofifenua, 18 Marc Clerc, 19 Tom Palmer, 20 Marco Tauleigne, 21 Baptiste Serin, 22 Lionel Beauxis, 23 Metuisela Talebula

Most players on the bench are actually stronger than the ones starting (front row, SH , FB) and as feared we are starting a lock (luke jones) as flanker. Our midfield (centres) seems UBB weakest point withy players that don't often play there and lack a bit lightweight imo (but if I remember correctly that was the partnership that eliminated Clermont last year).

Our players will have Goujon for breakfast Cool


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Hahaha.

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Re: Bordeaux Begles v Ulster Rugby

Post by Munchkin on Sat 15 Oct 2016, 10:20 pm



For what o0

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Post by Notch on Sat 15 Oct 2016, 10:22 pm

For the joke sailing over your head Smile

For what its worth, I thought it was very funny OK

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Post by Munchkin on Sat 15 Oct 2016, 10:27 pm

Notch wrote:For the joke sailing over your head Smile

For what its worth, I thought it was very funny OK

It didn't really sail over my head. I thought my "o0" response was funny Sad

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Post by Notch on Sat 15 Oct 2016, 10:56 pm

It's the internet. No-one is funny on the internet.

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Post by SecretFly on Sat 15 Oct 2016, 11:14 pm

Well, the best of luck (and play) tomorrow guys. Let's keep this Pro12/Provincial Euro show rolling Wink

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Post by Munchkin on Sun 16 Oct 2016, 1:10 am

Yep, four wins in the CC and four wins in the other one. The Regions have won all their opening games, as have the Scots. It would be fantastic if ourselves and Munster keep the winning going. It's a challenge for both, but Munster face a really tough one.

Whatever happens, it's been a very good first weekend for the PRO12 Very Happy

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Post by Munchkin on Sun 16 Oct 2016, 1:20 am

Notch wrote:It's the internet. No-one is funny on the internet.

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Depends which screen you've been watching



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Post by whocares on Sun 16 Oct 2016, 8:11 am

Munchkin wrote:Yep, four wins in the CC and four wins in the other one. The Regions have won all their opening games, as have the Scots. It would be fantastic if ourselves and Munster keep the winning going. It's a challenge for both, but Munster face a really tough one.

Whatever happens, it's been a very good first weekend for the PRO12 Very Happy

I won't be surprised if all French teams end up losing. Even Racing whose form has been erratic so far.

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Post by mikey_dragon on Sun 16 Oct 2016, 11:16 am

Yeah and I remember back this time last year when the franglo's piped up about doing well. Looks like the purple patch is well and truly over Wink. #SUFTMOG #SUFTUM

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Post by Notch on Sun 16 Oct 2016, 11:40 am

Reminds me of me without my glasses Smile

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Post by Artful_Dodger on Sun 16 Oct 2016, 11:59 am

I'm writing a letter of complaint to the ERCC organizers. This game kicks off at 13:00 on a Sunday, what time do the off licenses in Ulster open on a Sunday?? Thats right, 13:00. Outrageous.

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Post by Artful_Dodger on Sun 16 Oct 2016, 12:11 pm

Also, I really hope the ref closely inspects the work of the Begles loosehead at the scrum.

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Post by marty2086 on Sun 16 Oct 2016, 12:39 pm

whocares wrote:
Munchkin wrote:Yep, four wins in the CC and four wins in the other one. The Regions have won all their opening games, as have the Scots. It would be fantastic if ourselves and Munster keep the winning going. It's a challenge for both, but Munster face a really tough one.

Whatever happens, it's been a very good first weekend for the PRO12 Very Happy

I won't be surprised if all French teams end up losing. Even Racing whose form has been erratic so far.

If they all lose they'll starting talking about quitting the competition and starting a another one again Whistle

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Post by Notch on Sun 16 Oct 2016, 12:59 pm

Am I the only one seeing these team sheets on Sky!?

They have Sam Arnold listed on the wing for Ulster and a rake of Bordeaux players are just missing Laugh

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Post by Notch on Sun 16 Oct 2016, 1:01 pm

That was a handy kick from Rory too!

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Post by Artful_Dodger on Sun 16 Oct 2016, 1:09 pm

Notch wrote:Am I the only one seeing these team sheets on Sky!?

They have Sam Arnold listed on the wing for Ulster and a rake of Bordeaux players are just missing Laugh

They seemed to have Neil Doak down as Head Coach as well :/

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Re: Bordeaux Begles v Ulster Rugby

Post by Pot Hale on Sun 16 Oct 2016, 1:15 pm

The pitch is a disgrace. Literally coming up in patches at scrum time.

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Post by Pot Hale on Sun 16 Oct 2016, 1:19 pm

Artful_Dodger wrote:I'm writing a letter of complaint to the ERCC organizers. This game kicks off at 13:00 on a Sunday, what time do the off licenses in Ulster open on a Sunday?? Thats right, 13:00. Outrageous.

Hmm - they're open at 12.30 in Donegal....

Just sayin like.

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Post by Artful_Dodger on Sun 16 Oct 2016, 1:23 pm

What a try. Bowesque angle from Trimble.

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