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Post by neilthom7 on Thu 13 Oct 2016, 6:14 pm

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Bordeaux Begles v Ulster

Champions Cup Pool 5
Stade Chaban-Delmas
16th October 2016, 13:00 Kick off GMT
Live on Sky Sports

Referee JP Doyle (England)
Touch Judge 1 John Meredith (England)
Touch Judge 2 Peter Allan (England)
TMO Graham Hughes (England)
Citing Commissioner John Montgomery (Scotland)

Teams
Bordeaux
15 Jean-Marcellin Buttin, 14 Adam Ashley-Cooper, 13 Jean-Baptiste Dubié, 12 Romain Lonca, 11 Blair Connor, 10 Ian Madigan, 9 Yann Lesgourgues, 8 Loann Goujon, 7 Hugh Chalmers, 6 Luke Jones, 5 Cyril Cazeaux, 4 Jandré Marais (c), 3 Vadim Cobilas, 2 Clément Maynadier, 1 Jefferson Poirot
Replacements: 16 Ole Avei, 17 Sébastien Taofifenua, 18 Marc Clerc, 19 Tom Palmer, 20 Marco Tauleigne, 21 Baptiste Serin, 22 Lionel Beauxis, 23 Metuisela Talebula

Ulster
(15-9): Jared Payne, Andrew Trimble (captain), Luke Marshall, Stuart Olding, Craig Gilroy, Paddy Jackson, Ruan Pienaar;
(1-8): Andy Warwick, Rory Best, Rodney Ah You, Alan O'Connor, Franco van der Merwe, Iain Henderson, Clive Ross, Sean Reidy;
Replacements (16-23): Rob Herring, Kyle McCall, Ross Kane, Pete Browne, Roger Wilson, Paul Marshall, Jacob Stockdale, Rob Lyttle

First round of pool games in Pool 5 and both will want to get off to the perfect start.  One of the most fascinating battles in this will be the battle of the outhalves as Irish 10's Madigan and Jackson go head to head.


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Re: Bordeaux Begles v Ulster Rugby

Post by Munchkin on Sun 16 Oct 2016, 1:23 pm

Yahoo

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Post by eirebilly on Sun 16 Oct 2016, 1:24 pm

There is that back line dominance I expected Very Happy

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Post by eirebilly on Sun 16 Oct 2016, 1:32 pm

Has there ever been a match called off due to the ground cutting up?

This ground is god awful.

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Post by Artful_Dodger on Sun 16 Oct 2016, 1:34 pm

They will try and fix it throughout the match and particularly at half time, by fix I mean pat it down.....but honestly, its shocking.

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Post by Pot Hale on Sun 16 Oct 2016, 1:37 pm

It also has to be dangerous for the players with the potential to turn or break an ankle with your footing.

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Post by Notch on Sun 16 Oct 2016, 1:39 pm

Brodeaux are so incredibly lazy off the ball. Its amazing. They're jogging to rucks. Ulster in second gear too.

This is so far below the tempo of your typical Pro12 game.

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Post by Notch on Sun 16 Oct 2016, 1:42 pm

Holy God. the IRFU have just released a statement that Anthony Foley has passed away overnight at a hotel in Paris.

Munster match rescheduled.

I'm shocked.

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Post by eirebilly on Sun 16 Oct 2016, 1:44 pm

Notch wrote:Holy God. the IRFU have just released a statement that Anthony Foley has passed away overnight at a hotel in Paris.

Munster match rescheduled.

I'm shocked.

WTF?

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Post by Artful_Dodger on Sun 16 Oct 2016, 1:46 pm

Notch wrote:Holy God. the IRFU have just released a statement that Anthony Foley has passed away overnight at a hotel in Paris.

Munster match rescheduled.

I'm shocked.

Oh my god.....

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Re: Bordeaux Begles v Ulster Rugby

Post by Notch on Sun 16 Oct 2016, 1:48 pm

I have started a thread where posters may leave their condolences if they wish. This is a huge shock and I'm not really sure what to do to be honest.


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Post by eirebilly on Sun 16 Oct 2016, 1:48 pm

I am struggling for words.

RIP big man

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Post by Munchkin on Sun 16 Oct 2016, 1:50 pm

Notch wrote:Holy God. the IRFU have just released a statement that Anthony Foley has passed away overnight at a hotel in Paris.

Munster match rescheduled.

I'm shocked.

That's desperately sad news. Stunned by it.

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Post by neilthom7 on Sun 16 Oct 2016, 1:53 pm

Its times like this when Rugby results just don't matter. Stunned. RIP

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Post by Pot Hale on Sun 16 Oct 2016, 1:55 pm

Axel Foley?

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Post by Notch on Sun 16 Oct 2016, 1:57 pm

Yes.

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Post by neilthom7 on Sun 16 Oct 2016, 2:04 pm

Those ulster players look like they have been told about Foley at half time

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Post by Notch on Sun 16 Oct 2016, 2:05 pm

What is surreal is that the Ulster players won't find out until they leave the pitch. And now I'm just watching the game and its bizarre, utterly bizarre.

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Post by neilthom7 on Sun 16 Oct 2016, 2:08 pm

Notch wrote:What is surreal is that the Ulster players won't find out until they leave the pitch. And now I'm just watching the game and its bizarre, utterly bizarre.

Do you think they were told at half time Notch? They looked like they were when they were walking out after the break

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Post by Notch on Sun 16 Oct 2016, 2:09 pm

I don't know. If they were I don't know because I am in shock

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Post by marty2086 on Sun 16 Oct 2016, 2:18 pm

neilthom7 wrote:
Notch wrote:What is surreal is that the Ulster players won't find out until they leave the pitch. And now I'm just watching the game and its bizarre, utterly bizarre.

Do you think they were told at half time Notch? They looked like they were when they were walking out after the break

Players dont look to be as energetic in stadiums like that because of the steps, everyone seems lethargic when they arent running out

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Post by Notch on Sun 16 Oct 2016, 2:20 pm

Ulster are going to lose this game. I don't know if its because of the news or even whether they know. But I think Marty is right.

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Post by eirebilly on Sun 16 Oct 2016, 2:24 pm

Just cant bring myself to watch the rest of this game. best of luck to Ulster but I am away to drown my sorrows.

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Post by Notch on Sun 16 Oct 2016, 2:26 pm

Best of luck billy. You're in my thoughts.

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Post by toml on Sun 16 Oct 2016, 2:41 pm

Ulster have not come out again after halftime. The pitch is absolutely sh!te as well

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Post by toml on Sun 16 Oct 2016, 2:43 pm

Doyle is the most pedantic ever too

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Post by Notch on Sun 16 Oct 2016, 2:44 pm

Will be bizarre if we don't win this considering how badly Bordeaux are playing, but also bizarre if we do win considering we are barely there in spirit never mind body.

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Post by whocares on Sun 16 Oct 2016, 2:47 pm

So many wasted opportunities by Bordeaux Begles in the 2H. They could play for another hour and not score a try. Good resilience shown by Ulster but you feel their head is not there...

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Post by neilthom7 on Sun 16 Oct 2016, 2:47 pm

Roger Wilson what were you doing

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Post by neilthom7 on Sun 16 Oct 2016, 2:50 pm

penalty try

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Post by Notch on Sun 16 Oct 2016, 2:50 pm

Penalty try coming now.

I will care in a week or so but right now it just doesn't matter.

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Post by whocares on Sun 16 Oct 2016, 2:52 pm

That tackle was fine by me.

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Post by toml on Sun 16 Oct 2016, 2:54 pm

The tackle no worse than the blocking at the kick off. JP Power Trip

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Post by SecretFly on Sun 16 Oct 2016, 2:54 pm

Just after hearing the news (here). Poor man. My God, such a young man. Hard to believe, and after all the entertainment we kicked out of his grumpy media persona and all the shenanigans at Munster over the recent years. All gone and all finished in an instant.

Rest in Peace, Anthony.

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Post by No9 on Sun 16 Oct 2016, 2:54 pm

Penalty try was the right decision... Tackle was early and stopped a clean take of the pass, if he had taken that pass clean it was a certain try.

Right call by ref..

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Post by marty2086 on Sun 16 Oct 2016, 2:55 pm

What was Marshall doing? just run straight and its a try or penalty!

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Post by neilthom7 on Sun 16 Oct 2016, 2:56 pm

Well you can't spend the entire second half defending and not expect to lose really. Will matter at the end of the group not getting the bonus point but right now it just doesn't matter

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Post by Notch on Sun 16 Oct 2016, 2:56 pm

Ulster are not in this game mentally. The only explanation is the Foley news.

No team that was thinking would not take the three there.

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Post by No9 on Sun 16 Oct 2016, 2:56 pm

whocares wrote:So many wasted opportunities by Bordeaux Begles in the 2H. They could play for another hour and not score a try. Good resilience shown by Ulster but you feel their head is not there...

If ever there was a post that jinxed a game.. Whistle

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Post by wolfball on Sun 16 Oct 2016, 2:57 pm

That's a terrible result, but understandable. Their heads weren't there.

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Post by Maine man on Sun 16 Oct 2016, 2:57 pm

What was Marshall thinking? Complete brain fart!

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Post by Notch on Sun 16 Oct 2016, 2:58 pm

It's probably us out of Europe now. I'm not sure they should have played the second half if the players knew. I really think if they knew its not fair and if they didn't know its bizarre they switched off so completely and collectively.

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Post by toml on Sun 16 Oct 2016, 3:00 pm

Notch wrote:It's probably us out of Europe now. I'm not sure they should have played the second half if the players knew. I really think if they knew its not fair and if they didn't know its bizarre they switched off so completely and collectively.

We don't know if they knew and I don't see why they wouldn't play. They wouldn't have been close to Foley week in week out like his own team

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Post by Munchkin on Sun 16 Oct 2016, 3:02 pm

Yep, out of Europe.

Very disappointing second half and result.

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Post by Notch on Sun 16 Oct 2016, 3:02 pm

toml wrote:
Notch wrote:It's probably us out of Europe now. I'm not sure they should have played the second half if the players knew. I really think if they knew its not fair and if they didn't know its bizarre they switched off so completely and collectively.

We don't know if they knew and I don't see why they wouldn't play. They wouldn't have been close to Foley week in week out like his own team

I never met the man and I could barely concentrate on the game.

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Post by toml on Sun 16 Oct 2016, 3:03 pm

Munchkin wrote:Yep, out of Europe.

Very disappointing second half and result.

We still have 5 games we can win. Desperately need some leadership outside Pienaar

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Post by marty2086 on Sun 16 Oct 2016, 3:04 pm

Notch wrote:It's probably us out of Europe now. I'm not sure they should have played the second half if the players knew. I really think if they knew its not fair and if they didn't know its bizarre they switched off so completely and collectively.

Think its harsh to say we are out of Europe, Clermont are beatable at the Michelin and we can pick up points in Exeter. A losing point would have been a big help but by no means a lost cause especially after one game

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Post by No9 on Sun 16 Oct 2016, 3:05 pm

If the Ulster players where informed at half time about Foley's passing, would they have had the opportunity to postpone the game. I wouldn't have thought they would, as the game had already started and the cost to fans would have been hard to compensate.

I think it would have been unfair, but the best result would have been for the Ulster team to have play the game of their lives, as a mark of respect, rather than fold.

BUT - I do know words are easy to say...

(as I've said on the Foley thread).. RIP, and my thoughts as are every rugby fan, is with the family and friends.

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Post by No9 on Sun 16 Oct 2016, 3:06 pm

... actually the Sky coverage just now, has brought a tear to my eye.. (and Im Welsh..not Irish).. Crying or Very sad

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Post by Notch on Sun 16 Oct 2016, 3:07 pm

No9 wrote:If the Ulster players where informed at half time about Foley's passing, would they have had the opportunity to postpone the game. I wouldn't have thought they would, as the game had already started and the cost to fans would have been hard to compensate.

I think it would have been unfair, but the best result would have been for the Ulster team to have play the game of their lives, as a mark of respect, rather than fold.

BUT - I do know words are easy to say...

(as I've said on the Foley thread).. RIP, and my thoughts as are every rugby fan, is with the family and friends.

You need time to process grief.

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Post by SecretFly on Sun 16 Oct 2016, 3:09 pm

If the players were told (and let's face it whatever about the players themselves, their coach Kiss knew Foley - was he in the right mood to get the players into shape for the 2nd half?) - if they knew then it certainly didn't help their concentration levels - but it would have been difficult to justify to networks and crowds etc a calling off of a second half.
It was bound to be a major mental distraction for a least some of the players who Would have known Foley quite well.

Difficult day but I wouldn't be saying 'we're out' yet - it's one game.

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